Changing an Incabloc Setting in a Vintage ETA 2783 Watch Movement

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In this video I replace a broken Incabloc setting in an ETA 2783 wristwatch movement using a Seitz tool with accessory Incabloc pushers and anvils. This is the first time that I used my new vintage Seitz tool and Incabloc pushers and stumps (which also function as cups to catch the setting). It's a long video (as many of mine are), but I did manage to do the repair and that's what it's all about!
chapter index:
00:00:00 introduction - the plan is to replace the broken incabloc spring on an ETA 2783
00:00:53 prepping the movement and movement holder for the work
00:03:01 removing the automatic winding oscillating weight
00:08:30 removing the automatic winding geared mechanism / plate
00:11:30 removing the balance assembly complete
00:14:00 removing the pallet fork bridge
00:17:18 examining the pallet fork pivots after accidentally dropping it 😭
00:17:57 preparing to use the Seitz tool to remove the incabloc setting now that it can be accessed
00:28:50 finally actually punching out the incabloc setting using the Seitz tool and special incabloc punch and anvil
00:32:02 examining the remains of the broken incabloc spring that I'll be replacing
00:33:56 attaching the new spring to the incablock setting
00:37:10 choosing the incabloc punch and anvil to reinsert the incabloc setting into the baseplate
00:40:40 setting up the Seitz tool and the movement for the reinsertion of the incabloc setting - can't get the punch out of the Seitz tool! 😭
00:42:32 using a pin vice to carefully pull the punch out of the tool
00:45:05 checking the three candidate punches for size and then picking the wrong one 😭
00:49:14 finally actually pushing the setting back into the movement
00:52:52 examining the damage to the setting resulting from using the wrong size punch
00:56:14 deciding that it looks fine and to complete the reassembly to find out for sure 🙏🏼
00:59:55 placing the pallet fork and pallet fork bridge back in the movement
01:03:58 putting the jewel assembly back in the repaired incabloc setting
01:06:28 putting the balance assembly complete back in the movement
01:11:17 putting the automatic winding works back on the movement
01:14:31 putting the automatic winding oscillating weight back on the movement
01:16:52 admiring my work, cleaning up, and putting the movement away for later use in a watch!
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My videos are for entertainment and educational purposes only. Critical / corrective comments and links to resources including other watchmaking channels are welcome.
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@IShootWatches 7 ай бұрын

In this video I was unsure how to use the jeweling tool to measure the Incabloc setting depth. In the video linked below Mark Lovick breifly shows how to replace a jewel at the same depth by taking a measurement with the micrometer on the jeweling tool. He doesn't go into great depth about how exactly to do it, but in retrospect I think that's because it's fairly obvious. In any case, Mark's videos are fantastic, and this one (and his Part 1 of the same) is worth watching if you're interested in this stuff: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y6mdhM6VxJ20d6c.html

@rossjackson3670 4 ай бұрын

Well Done. It's hard to learn the use of our tools, Jeweller, Staking set and Mainspring winders etc., from watching others on KZfaq. Yes, there is guidance, but it is only the physical use that allows us to gain expertise. We have no-one sitting by us to admonish, praise, cajole or to demonstrate in situ. Like you, my learning curve is is being extended. You have more photographic facilities, and better tools. I achieve the same with my own sets, so feel quite akin to you. I appreciate you displaying your attempts, successes, failures and thoughts. For me, I note our differences and gauge our achievements side by side. I certainly benefit. Thank you. Keep it going.

@IShootWatches 4 ай бұрын

Super! Thanks Ross! With every video I make I have to confront how much worse I am at this than I imagine that I am, but I like that because the truth is much more valuable to my growth than editing and self delusion.

@hellothere312 Ай бұрын

like a pro.. i cant wait to be able to do that too. just ordered the asian horia tool and cant wait to experiment with it. love your channel and thanks for the inspiration

@oscargustavoarcosruiz8793 7 ай бұрын

Yesterday I saw a video of yours, from a year ago, in which you show, I think by mistake, the home page of your company. I don't know how many of your subscribers have done it but I immediately went to see it and started researching about you, I saw a photo in which you are about 25 years old and have a Rolleiflex in your hands. Man, I'm impressed, I feel in the presence of a genius. I already knew that you are intelligent, and very organized, but knowing what you have invented, and what it has been used for, leaves me speechless. Now I understand why you are so professional and meticulous in the photography and editing of your videos, I already enjoyed your work, now I thank you for everything else you have done; I love cinema and you have enriched it greatly. As Elvis would say: Thank you, thank you very much.

@IShootWatches 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment, Oscar! I've found that there are lots of people in the watch world, particularly watch enthusiasts like myself, that work professionally in totally unrelated fields. This is especially true of enthusiasts with very broad interests such as myself. I assume this is because people who work professionally in the watch world at a very high level tend to focus on their niche, whether it is design, marketing, manufacturing, heritage or management (or something else). In any case, I thank you for your compliments on my accomplishments in the real world! 😂😂😂Are you a watches-first person or do you do something else professionally as well?

@IShootWatches 6 ай бұрын

I just noticed something funny about this video: at 4:42 you can see me searching for a lost part in the video playing on the screen in the background and then just a few seconds later I ping and temporarily lose track of the incabloc spring in the main video. A not insignificant part of watchmaking is constantly mitigating the risk of lost parts!

@awatchdiary 7 ай бұрын

Nice job friend. My gripe with Seitz is that they still sell the jewelling tool to fit the jewels they no longer make

@IShootWatches 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. Yeah, what's up with that? I think it may be because the majority of jewels are made in bulk for new movements and can still be (and are) still made in any size by jewel manufacturers, of which Seitz is not. But I'm not sure. It's an interesting question and I'll try to dig deeper into this at the next EPHJ (high precision trade fair in Geneva).

@ramhajare8844 16 күн бұрын

Very nice very hard work...

@WatchWithMike 7 ай бұрын

That was a fun watch, no pun intended! I could feel the gears turning in your brain as you plotted your next course of action. I respect the value of a formal watchmaking education, but as a fellow hobbyist, self-teaching is not only valid, it may even be better for certain types of learners. I learn while watching you learn! 👍🏼

@IShootWatches 7 ай бұрын

Thanks Mike! A lot of the KZfaq DIY genre, including watchmaking, is entertainment masquerading as education. @StuffMadeHere, as much as I love it, is a great example. I guess he’s teaching creative problem solving at a high level, but he’s not teaching python or Solidworks. The cool thing about watchmaking in the end is it is analogue (excluding of course modern design and manufacturing) and incredibly simple. There’s very little high level thinking involved, just the physical interactions of parts and tools. And because of that it’s also incredibly visual. Hence my attraction to it, and in particular my desire to learn to do it blindfolded! 😂😂😂 (seriously folks: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oMx-Z9iGs7HVj3k.html)

@WatchWithMike 7 ай бұрын

@@IShootWatches Dayton, yes, well put. And the reverse is true, education can masquerade as entertainment. In watchmaking, while you might call it simple, there is engineering and forethought put into every technique and every part. Fortunately there is a certain tolerance to screw up and then back up and correct your mistake (as long as you don't apply too much force to the part you are screwing up!). It's a perfect blend of memory, motor skills and problem solving. Visually, there is always something new and impressive to see, the more you unpeel the layers and zoom in on the parts. (Photo opportunities!) Nothing makes me happier than reading in the comments that our watchmaking videos are inspiring others to try the same.

@IShootWatches 7 ай бұрын

@@WatchWithMike That's interesting what you say about inspiring others. From the comments on my videos I get the feeling that my viewers are either not interested in actually doing it themselves (which is fine), or already far more advanced that I am. I don't think I've ever seen a viewer comment that I inspired them to order a set of screw drivers. I assume that's because they can see how much money I'm spending, how much time I'm wasting, and how much damage I'm doing to the watches that I open-- and as a result it looks like a pretty bad idea to jump in! In fact I would guess I've inspired more people to quit than start! 😂😂😂 In terms of what I'm actually doing and why, if any one is interested, I'm thinking five years out it will be cool to have a transparent and recorded history that starts at the beginning. Where I'll actually be in five years, with my watchmaking and my filmmaking, is anyone's guess, but my hope is that both will get better.

@WatchWithMike 7 ай бұрын

@@IShootWatches I appreciate your humility, and I think you are doing more to inspire people than you give yourself credit for. 😁

@IShootWatches 7 ай бұрын

@@WatchWithMike Thanks Mike but as you know I think you're doing a much better job of introducing newcomers to watchmaking on your channel that I am with your very clear videos that start with the basics! Of course without my channel they might never know that in six to twelve months (depending on how much credit they have left on their credit cards) they'll be sitting for hours broke and likely spouseless (I think we've both been lucky in that respect - so far anyway!) hunched over a tiny click spring trying to reshape it to fit a different movement because they pinged the original one across the room! 😂😂😂

@user-qy9ld7lk2e 7 ай бұрын

When setting the automatic bridge back on you can gently wind the crown to get the gears to mesh up to get them settled

@IShootWatches 7 ай бұрын

Thanks! That makes sense! Very helpful!

@pipodorologio1648 6 ай бұрын

great job, well done.....very interested in how the watch is running now?

@IShootWatches 6 ай бұрын

That's a good question! That is for the moment a spare movement, so I didn't really check it beyond making sure the spring was back in place and it was running.I have a project watch that I'll put that movement in eventually but not sure when. I will also clean, rebuild and lubricate that movement as part of that project.

@colinbenfield326 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for this. Did the same thing and I needed the help.

@IShootWatches 7 ай бұрын

That's great to hear! Thanks for your comment and best of luck with the watch!

@grantfawcettjr 5 ай бұрын

Note to self.. don’t buy incabloc pushers because you can clearly get by with an incorrect size and the correct ones don’t even look like they fit right

@IShootWatches 5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 I think that's pretty much true but I did use the wrong size as well (of course).