I worked in care for 13 years. I had to leave due to the care being provided. These residents pay £600 to £1000 a week more sometimes but do not get the care they deserve. Being gotten up at atrocious times and made to go to bed early. No freedom of choice. They have to sell their houses for this. My heart goes out to them. They are supposed to be living their end of life with dignity and happiness. Please try to keep your family at home for as long as you can. ❤

What a grim prospect. Slaving away to own a home for a brief period of stress-free living. And then, just not that long after paying off all the debts, you have to sell that hard-earned home to spend the rest of your days with strangers, having a tiny room that’s not even yours as far as ownership goes. I live in SE Asia country, where several generations live together. The grandparents help take care of the kids when they’re young, and in turn the grandchildren and the children take care of them when they’re no longer functioning properly. But I think they’re industrialising here as well, and the trend is following the West at alarming rate.

I am so very angry about all of this. Billionaires wealth is ever increasing, big corporations are reporting record profits, we fund wars, bankers receive big bonuses I can go on.... The distribution of wealth is unfair. Our governments are incompetent. All millionaires themselves and they cannot be trusted. The carers get paid pittance. Dismal.

My mother asked me that she never be sent to a home, she would rather die in pain in her own home. Her reasoning being that a home is where we send those we no longer care for, a place where strangers tell you what to eat, what to do, when to sleep. The homes are businesses for those who gain profit off those who no longer any one to care for them. She was correct.

Caring for a loved one at home is super hard. The phrase 'mentally draining' is an understatement. I gave up my £30k a year job to care full time for my mum with vascular dementia. I was given £65 per week and the government stripped my mums benefits because I moved her into my home. I had to reapply for disability benefits to top up her pension. Then I asked for help with respite and social services wouldn't let her back home as she was violent and had special needs. I tried to get her home but my rights were none existent. Instead she lived in a dreadful home, sleeping on a plastic mattress with no sheets in her own urine and being fed hotdog sausages in bbq sauce (which she hated both) losing 4 stone. I eventually got her moved with help of the CQC, they were amazing. Our elderly are a forgotton generation. The government doesn't care about the work my mum did for this country in the 1950s post war working at the Air Ministry. The taxes she paid as a self employed hairdresser. At 85 she was treated like a parasite by this Conservative government. I will never forgive social services for the lack of respect and dignity they forced onto my once beautiful and elegant mother. I will be traumatised to my dying day.

I worked for many years in adult social care, for a local council. Believe you me the only professionally well run care homes, were owned by the local council. Criminally they were all sold off and this is what we have ended up with. It is beyond acceptable, nowhere that provides care should be run for profit.

Care homes charge the residents a fortune, the food they give out are very small portions, and they pay the staff rubbish wages. How can they be underfunded?

We need a National Care Service. It is truly heartbreaking to see underpaid careworkers at breaking point and elderly patients suffer inadequate care.

The 'system' will never be fixed. It's a business model; care home owners are raking it in on a huge scale.

I moved to France 7 years ago and my mother moved here 3 years ago. She’s 78. The system here seems to be that people stay at home rather than go into homes as they age and the onus is on families to rally round and look after their parents. Care homes do exist but they are the exception rather than the norm. Mum can access an allowance of up to 3500€ a month for help with carers, a maid, a housekeeper and a gardener. It’s a completely different attitude to elderly care plus the French in my experience have greater respect for the elderly.

My sister works in a care home and they've a woman who is employed to do entertainment and at times shes having to pay out of her own pocket to get simple stuff like craft supplies.

I find this report pretty extraordinary because it misses out the big elephant in the room: the profits made by care home providers. Why didn't Channel 4 check to see whether the 'cost of providing care ' is the actual cost or whether it includes a built-in large profit for these companies, many of which are owned by offshore trusts? How much of this money is being paid out to shareholders? Also no mention of the massive cuts to government funding of local authorities since austerity started 13 years ago. Poor work, Channel 4!

I don’t get why people dump (yes dump) their parents/grandparents in these abusive negligent homes. Why don’t they look after their loved ones, perhaps then they would actually deserve the inheritance. Id rather care for my parents and be in hardship than to abandon them in a so-called care home. I worked in a care home, the staff were overstretched, it was a physical job and the pay was rubbish. I left because the care was inadequate and it was heartbreaking . I remember a frail man having lots of pictures plastered on his wall of his extended family. None of them ever came to visit and no body bothered to care after he died, yet he would talk about them with such love. Most of the residents are in the same situation. One lady’s family didn’t even give her clothing. Staff bought it out of pity, using their own wage. There is a morale decline. Even NHS have elders who are stuck in hospital beds because there is no one to look after them at home, despite having kids. The elites encourage this because they want to take the home off the elders. And sometimes even the children do elders abuse to get the inheritance. These elders get Absolutely no respect for their sacrifice - they sacrifice everything to raise and protect their children, only to be abandoned in old age. Don’t bother wasting money on a fancy funeral if you can’t be bothered to care and spend on them while they are alive in their time of need. I can understand people who have no family ending up in care homes. Society needs to change the way they think. You are responsible for your family. you know the government is corrupt and care homes owners are greedy and care providers can be abusing your elders. Your parents deserve dignity in their old age. Being in a care home is lonely and degrading , there is no dignity

Have you thought about taxing 1-2% more the billionaires and maybe reduce military spending for the same percentage? Could do wonders.

This is a collapse of family and extended family as we know it ; I cared for my Dad who spent a brief time in care home as I did not know how to medically care for him; I truly believe elderly should be looked after by family and medical visiting staff - sadly this is not available or very expensive but so much better for elderly people who suffer so much from loneliness ; I rented a special bed for him , hired private nurse - he was bed bound in the final weeks ; I changed his nappies , cooked meals while I was working remotely full time ( all of this in Poland) there was no available public spaces in any of the care homes so only option for me were private homes with limited availability; hospital just said they will bring him home and somebody has to be at home although repeatedly I told them he lives on his own; nightmare as I was not ready for it and live in the different country but I am glad I helped him as much as I could in his final months ❤

My mum was a Qualified state registered nurse who worked in a care home part time when pregnant with my little brother ( 6year younger then me ) . I was only 10 when she told me and my elder Brother that she NEVER wanted to go into a care home , The quailty of care is just as important as the cost of care ! that was over 40 years ago.

Lets not overlook the families who are caring for their loved ones a few are entitled to £76.75,/wk if either don't work or earn above a threshold. Those carers who are pension age are not even entitled to this payment. They care 24/7, if they have assets they have to pay for any and all care, people who have worked all their lives, and saved for their futures are entitled to very little or nothing, these people are penalised for investing in their futures. Care worker don't get paid enough, but agencies charge a great deal more than they pay their staff and staff are often overworked lots don't even get sick pay and are forced back to work before their ready, due to not being able to afford to be sick. The whole system needs overhauling

6.2 million a day for accommodation alone, to keep young Economic Migrants and get we " cannot " pay for care for the elderly of Britain????

This country needs to open up to the concept of voluntary assisted dying. If you no longer have a quality of life that is tolerable to you surely you should have the choice whether or not you want to continue. Care homes are not for everyone.

9k a month? You could hire a private living in carer for 700 a week. Much cheaper.

We've been encouraged to live healthier lives, stopping smoking and cutting back on alcohol. Now we are living longer but experiencing years of chronic illness and care home confinement. Remember when pubs were packed with happy people, smoking and drinking? Their lives may have been slightly shorter but was that so very bad?

As the population gets older, if we think it is bad now.

We'll all get old some day- Never forget that! The way society today treats the elderly is the way WE'LL be treated (or worse!) in 30 years! The elderly are the most discriminated sector of our society! The way they have been treated the past three years (left to die alone and without visits from their loved ones) is absolutely CRIMINAL and pure EVIL!!! Never forgive, never forget!

The issue is worldwide where the elderly are living longer to their 80s, 90s, 100s. It may be true that humans are living longer but not necessarily having a good quality of life. A lot of them develop chronic diseases like diabetes, heart disease, cancer, and dementia which can be a huge drain in healthcare services. Compound the issue with lowering birthrates, which will cause less younger people working and paying taxes for pensions, socialised housing, healthcare, etc. I would not be surprised by the time I retire at maybe 70+, pension schemes would have collapsed.

Final salary pension schemes, free university education and affordable property means most elderly folk now have assets to fund care. Not sure what the governments plan is for 30 years time because all of those aforementioned things have gone. Destitution for many

Everything wrong in this country it's falling apart at the seams.

No funding crisis for migrants, 1000's turn up every week no talk from the Government that we can't afford to pay for hotels, barges, housing etc.

You know why I don't have kids? One of the reasons is they may end up like this. These people were all somebody's babies at some point. But parents never take into account they may end up as a 'baby' once again. Life is a short horrible ponzi scheme. Glad I kept my participation at a minimum. Very unhappy my parents didn't. The good die young, at least before becoming needy like this.

Increased national social care and home nursing funding. And, honestly, the right to die. I would hate to have dementia. I saw my grandfather go through it and the burden it took upon my family. I'd rather just be able to go to a comfortable facility and pass on my terms once that time came.

Who owns the majority of care homes? Is it now a monopoly that owns them? I never hear about Muslim care homes? If there is such homes are they funded by the government? Is it only whites who have property or funds in the bank that have to pay for their care? It would be interesting to know about this situation.

I'm bewildered. Why shouldn't people have to sell their homes to pay to live somewhere else? Why should their houses sit empty when we have a housing shortage? Why would we expect working people who are struggling to pay their own mortgages/rents to pay through taxation for homeowners to live in care homes. Genuinely bewildered.

They haven't tried and failed. That's like saying a burglar dressed as a window-cleaner has tried and failed to clean your windows.

We can't pay to help our elderly in care homes or our disabled on homes as well as schools but we can pay for illegal migrants coming here shows what kind of country this is?

Basically if you have any assets such as a house, they take it from you to pay for all the people in care homes with no assets.

Rees-Mogg's subsidised corporation tax comes at a cost to others. This and widespread UK homelessness is a "prius" he's happy for others to pay. Foodbanks are "uplifting" for him.

Care homes take excessive money for very little care! I lasted a month before walking out of a care home job. £1,200 for being left unwashed not even a face wash, gums/ teeth unbrushed, limited food and drinks, left alone in a stuffy room 24/7, maximum of 3 incontinence pads a day, roughly handled by untrained imported staff who do not care - they are headed for other jobs after their 6 months experience necessary to gain the magical NHS job! It’s Britains version of the dying rooms for people who can not fight for dignity anymore. People who need care are a huge commodity now making investors a lot of profit! Sickening.

Why the care worker paid is so rubbish if the family has to pay £9000 a month to the care home?

Idk I think I would tell my relatives to take me to Canada or Switzerland and rest.

I do not see how councils can continue to spend so much money on social care. It is not sustainable.

People should be using their wealth and assets accrued over their lives for their elderly care. Who else is expected to pick up this tab?! How is it unfair to do so, where else is this money going? And older generations with wealth disproportionately voted Tory who have chronically underfunded and miss old the viability of not taxing more for this care. This is the result. I feel bad for those older people who didn’t vote Tory and are disproportionately affected by this.

Think everyone pays enough tax in their lifetime to cover their own care. I call bs-

The country is finished. Greed has killed the lion.

I did work in a care home for 4 years , only got two pounds more added to the wage each year, same wage for over time, got paid double for Christmas Day but that owner of the care home owns another 4 care home and he is a millionaire today.

My god the reason is councils miscmanageing money and high costes from private care coste homes

We tried care homes, they were terrible. Then we decided to use an agency called AICS Group. They were amazing. They allowed mum to live at home in the way she felt she had full dignity and independence.

Most care homes charge about £900>£1200 a week for residential care. Fees above these are usually because the homes offers hotel like services like a spa, bar, cinema etc. £9000 a month sounds like very complex care needs such as special needs / 1to1 care / nursing care etc.

Mr Green says here that no new ideas on elderly care will come from any party because of a general election next year. Why not? Do countries without general elections have better policies then? Dictators manage more long term thinking? Not a great message....

My mum has gone temporarily into a care home yesterday to convalesce for a few weeks, at government expense. In our minds we imagined lots of staff interacting with her and helping her get her strength back in a safe environment. But what it seems to be is an enormous cost, for a small plain room in a plain building and only a couple of staff not doing much, and unlikely to notice quickly if anything happened. I dare say the staff were not highly paid, and that the owners are making massive profits. She only needed watching out for in terms of safety, I dare say it would have been a fraction of the cost just to put her in a B&B or similar where someone was around, or just to bring her back and watch out for her ourselves, as the care looks to be fairly non-existent... I'm sure a lot of these places could be run much more effectively, and people who merely needed watching out for would be better placed in a normal community environment at lower cost with ordinary people who have a room to spare and don't go out much themselves, with some simple arrangements for when they do, or even as said just a B&B where some people are always present.

Mogg wants to bring back the workhouse.

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Local authorities set the fee and then pay the fees they set for elderly care? That may be one of the problems..

The problem is that there is no half way house for those who have to fund care themselves. Either you pay for care in full, which in most cases is about £50,000 p.a or the council pays. Putting it brutally, if you have saved carefully throughout your life, that will all be taken away by care fees whilst at the same time, those who have frittered their money away will get care free. Of course there are many who never had the money to pay. So the government cap of £86000 means that if you are able, you would pay a sizeable amount for your care but not drain almost all your hard earned money, as now. The Care cap has been promised since about 2015 and it is no nearer. Very few can get the NHS to pay for care in a home or at home. 30 years and more ago, those who were ill would have been in hospital and the NHS would have picked up the bill. Now if you are ill but do not need a hospital bed, you have to pay for all your care if you have money above the threshold.

Tax the rich, there is your money you need

And you've not even touched on Domiciliary Care, Supported Living, young adults etc etc and all aren't remunerated with the correct funding

£9000 a month?. They could get a private carer and pay the bills for less.

I shouldnt have to pay for old peoples care, why shouldnt they pay with a house they will never need again?

So, my mum's care home costs £1500 a week, and they're short staffed? Eh?......🤔🤣

£7 billion to take care of ALL the elderly… £11 billion for muslim migrants. We ALL know who is the government’s little darlings

I am currently writing my dissertation on this...particularly the impact of financialisation and "asset manager society". Devastating really.

The rate of care homes closing in UK is worrying also.

There is no viable reason to live until 97..... both of my parents had dementia...i hope that I'm gone by 75...i don't believe in euthenasia, but i don't want to live past 75... that will do for me... all being well I'm packing in work at 60 ...fk the pension,i will live frugally off my savings, enjoy what time I have left... hopefully head home around 75. 👍🤞

I think those with means should pay part but also good NHS nursing homes would keep costs down. N if carers allowance was enough n community care better more people could stay with there family's in there homes.

Spend your money before these care homes get ther hands on it, give it to your kids grand kids before you End up in home . Then council will pay so they should they robbed you all your life with tax after tax and more tax. Come with nothing and go with nothing is the best way . If not youve worked all your life for to pay to nursing home. Not for me .

Their kids need to take care of them, not the tax payer

It’s very fair!! You’re using a service why should it be free??

It's interesting to drive by some care homes bedroom windows flung open at 6 am if not earlier yup only see what you want to see !

The money they spend for migrants should be redirected to our elderly care immediately.

A friend of mine owns a few care homes, doesn’t run them just rents them out to care providers. It’s extremely lucrative and much less hassle than being a normal residential landlord, plus the residents always pay! Seems like a great ongoing investment, who cares if you have to use your life savings, you can own nothing and be happy…

Make enough money and save enough money in young age , so you can live comfortably in elder age.

Staff on minimum wage, residents paying £55k a year, an Indian family creaming off the profits.

This country is NOT Promised Land . Sadly .

Unfortunately no many people want to pay more taxes (most of the people wants other people to pay more taxes), so at the end become a personal issue, so every person will need to save for this events or rely on family or charity. We should think traditionally this has been and issue cover by family. The good things is many of the current elders (on averages) has properties, saving, families, and young carers from abroad. As we know people goes currently later and later to the property ladder and to have their own families, so future is going to be taught for those. Would they be willing to pay more taxes while they have to postpone creation of families and buying houses while living with housemates is shared accommodations?. Keep in mind todays there is a large proportion of poverty within children.

Big business to drain the wealth from the rich. My local one wants £1800 a week and tells people when the can’t afford it anymore they will be forced to leave. Most are foreign ownership and mostly Indian

This country has been ruined, atleast we get HS2... /s

If they can care for migrants we don’t know,who haven’t contributed to Britain ,like the elderly have then time the money the spend on the migrants s

Which begs the question why don't they just bring in 'voluntary euthanasia' for those elderly folks who want it instead of forcing many old people to just go on and on and on and on and on - not everyone wants to live into 80/90/100's - yes if you have your health but if you haven't it isn't even worth having. I'm going to be in this situation soon and I am absolutely dreading it.

I would have to find a way to care for my mother at home haveing carrers visit have her live with me i xould not let her live in a care home ive seen whats goes on in them some bice staff some not so nice no rhankyou

The care hike my nana was in killed her and stole her belonging, her children took them to court the manager resigned.

Place I work the residentsvpay o Considerably over £1000 a week it is one of the better places I've seen but still it's slowly slowly going downhill

I will never put my mother with dementia in these care homes i am looking after her myself so you all get stuffed

Children don't look after you in your old age but still want an inheritance and want the state to pay for care; British values.

Kick the can down the road.

We wonder the reason humanity is losing the grip of moral compass, when we are storing our DATA in residential home. Grandparents are like DATA storage which passed morality into grandchildren

Those who have property or money don't want to pay for their own care and moan and whine about it. I have no sympathy for those who have to sell property to pay for care, why shouldn't they? So what their families wont inherit as much? If they don't like it maybe some people should look after their elderly relatives themselves, but guess what they find every excuse under the sun not to. The Gov gave social care an additional £500M during Covid and surprise surprise the NHS took it from them and used it for themselves.

Dont care. Still aint voting labor!

Not bothered .. as long as Ukraine keeps on getting millions of aid from the UK ..

Vietnam.offers care homes of very high standard for westerners far cheaper.

I think id rather be in prison for bank robbery. 😮 At least youd get kudos 😢and if u stwshed your ill gotten gains youd be sweet when u got out. 20+years later. With 3square meals a day. A livrary. A gym. A toilet bucket. Pros sn cons. 😅