I see why Alec Guinness hated his role as Obi-Wan Kenobi. This acting and delivery is near poetry and should be remembered.
@derrickstorm6976 Жыл бұрын
And I see why he was so poor before doing Star Wars
@NPA1001 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think he rated this movie all that highly either.. he much preferred his earlier roles in the 1940s and 50s
@Orbowitz11 ай бұрын
@@derrickstorm6976star wars sucks lol
@olympia575810 ай бұрын
@@OrbowitzTake that back!
@Orbowitz10 ай бұрын
@@olympia5758 no lol
@wikipediaintellectual70882 жыл бұрын
And then they restored the monarchy, became best friends and never lost their heads. The end.
@britishpa95782 жыл бұрын
What a plot twist😂🤣
@Brvnkaerv2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Sadly, Cromwell was dug up and his corpse tortured. Who would agree to this idea?
@xgetxsickx2 жыл бұрын
@@sgtbuckwheat wait what 😳
@adrianwilliams69082 жыл бұрын
@@Brvnkaerv Nothing sad about it. Well deserved desecration of his remains
@joechang86962 жыл бұрын
About as helpful as divorce counseling
@tajniak43358 ай бұрын
"England without a king is unthinkable". Said Olivier Cromwell.
@Trebor748 ай бұрын
Even if the King was Scottish.
@corin4926 ай бұрын
He does not mean King in a literal sense. He just means a strong head of state
@rumeunner32455 ай бұрын
@@Trebor74The crowns were united in 1603.
@Gehri_soch2.05 ай бұрын
@@rumeunner3245however there wasn't a union until the tender of Union
@benjaminguilatcoiv3 ай бұрын
Charles was a fool.
@30firebirds2 жыл бұрын
I've often thought about the irony of Richard Harris, an Irishman, in the role of Oliver Cromwell.
@alabamaal2252 жыл бұрын
The role paid well. And you will note that Cromwell's actions in Ireland was never mentioned in the movie.
@farmerned62 жыл бұрын
@@alabamaal225 Neither were the Irish actions that caused them NOR the Scotish invasion of England either England was being threaten by Catholic europe, Backstabbers couldn't be allowed
@CHALETARCADE2 жыл бұрын
@@farmerned6 You could litterally write the same thing about Napoleon, France was being threaten by monarchies across Europe, democracy couldn't be allowed, he had to become an Emperor. What one wouldn't excuse in the name of their beloved country!😁
@farmerned62 жыл бұрын
@@CHALETARCADE # Hardly Boney accepted an Emperors lauels, and tried to conquer europe, russia and egypt, buying "honour" with victorys paid with blood Cromwell refused the Crown and the title of King, and tried repeatedly to forge a working peoples Parliment Bonely was a backline pounder, Cromwell Lead
@godfrey_of_america2 жыл бұрын
We are all Aryan
@MM229662 жыл бұрын
"You may strike me down, Cromwell, but I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."
@woodwyrm2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@chrismc410 Жыл бұрын
And he did in the end
@MM22966 Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, you're right. "There is another....in France." "The son of Stuart must not become a king."
@phillipmorel51163 ай бұрын
Fun fact Alec Guinness actually wished he never played Obi-Wan because people only remembered him for Star Wars when he had so many great roles
@MM229663 ай бұрын
@@phillipmorel5116 I had heard that. Which is funny when so many actors peak and then take unremembered bit roles as they get older.
@leftcoaster672 жыл бұрын
The fact that Guinness stammered some of his lines, means he understood Charles 1 and how to play him.
@user-it5td8hg4i Жыл бұрын
He also has an inconsistent accent. His accent becomes notably more Scottish when he's angry, but when talking normally he has only the slightest Scottish touch to his voice. It's brilliant.
@user-rg9es6rj7r8 ай бұрын
That’s just Guinness’ accent. Charles I was born in Scotland but didn’t live there beyond infancy. Guinness himself was English.
@nickhartman6372 Жыл бұрын
Alec Guinnes is truly one of the greatest actors in history. Its a shame most people only know of him because of Star Wars.
@Orbowitz11 ай бұрын
I've always thought his best role was as Prince Faisal in Lawrence of Arabia
@2001Karel10 ай бұрын
The bridge on the river Kwai, Murder by death, Caesar and Cleopatra
@mr.perceval68119 ай бұрын
The Lady Killers.
@GalootWrangler8 ай бұрын
@@mr.perceval6811 While we’re on Ealing, let’s add eight roles in Kind Hearts and Coronets.
@stevendebettencourt76517 ай бұрын
I often hear this argument, but I don’t agree with it. Think of all the great stage actors whose names are lost to history despite overwhelming talent. Imagine if Patrick Stewart never became Captain Jean-Luc Picard. By having a role remembered by all, though it may not have been his best, Sir Alex will be remembered by many for generations to come, and this we’ll also remember the true masterpieces.
@boredlawyer33822 жыл бұрын
Their discussion actually reflects two competing political theories at the time. King Charles has a French view of the monarchy, as being the source of all power. Cromwell is talking about a Constitutional monarchy, in which the king is first in power, but not all powerful. After a few decades of strife, Cromwell's vision was adopted with the Glorious Revolution, and then continued when the Hanoverian kings had to live with limits on their power, and ever more influential Prime Ministers.
@williamwalsh35652 жыл бұрын
A great observation, well put!
@emmettbrown64182 жыл бұрын
Good summation of their cover stories. It was more of a naive king vs. Money.
@KoolKman2 жыл бұрын
Are you merely a Bored Lawyer or more pertinently..An interestingly well versed Historian?
@yozor.86932 жыл бұрын
So speaks Captain Obvious
@alexander97032 жыл бұрын
I think Charles' understanding of the English monarchy was entirely consistent with the principles of what had been a very powerful monarchy, unlike the French which had only over the course of the previous century become so centralised.
@erikrudolph94839 ай бұрын
"Not by fear but by the affection of a free people." Damn. That hit.
@Samuel-wm1xr9 ай бұрын
literal propaganda haha
@Zadir098 ай бұрын
@@Samuel-wm1xrhow so lol? In the UK the King is completely separate from the government in every way but name, they can’t use prerogative powers unless the overwhelming majority of people support their measures. If the British people wanted they could overthrow the crown in a second, but why? They would lose much more than they would gain and would cause social unrest since the crown is what holds the government/state/people together as one. The tax paid to the crown is so immensely small and in return they get greater international influence with the King&Commonwealth which they need for trade, especially as they are outside EU now. they were actually pretty smart in retrospect by keeping a king for show, although it does sound awfully close to a gilded cage scenario.
@ethanmcfarland82407 ай бұрын
@@Samuel-wm1xr How so?
@johnathanryan21172 жыл бұрын
Superb acting by top notch actors.
@Shadowman47102 жыл бұрын
Too bad the script is so full of historical holes...
@swaldron55582 жыл бұрын
Unlike today boring actors and boring scripts.
@xgetxsickx2 жыл бұрын
How? It's just Englishmen being English.
@johnathanryan21172 жыл бұрын
@@xgetxsickx Richard Harris is Irish pal
@jamesmasztalerz593011 ай бұрын
"I am not bound to negotiate with anyone, with 50 thousand men under my command I could impose a government on this nation overnight"
@Superking.Menthol8 ай бұрын
And you wonder how he possibly could have lost his head 😂
@zippymufo97656 сағат бұрын
@@Superking.MentholHe didn't lose it until after his death. Not quite the same effect to dig up a corpse and decapitate it.
@lukes3dworks5332 жыл бұрын
0:14, for a moment there I thought the Star Wars "Force" theme was going to play lol
@pogimax2 жыл бұрын
Was gonna comment on that too!
@jeremygerlach54882 жыл бұрын
Such a blue balls moment 😂 good catch
@adamrules012 жыл бұрын
Cromwell Skywalker
@quakethedoombringer2 жыл бұрын
@@adamrules01 more like Darth Cromwell
@argentiquenoborentino67802 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 same here
@LordMerji2 жыл бұрын
And that was the day the King lost the high ground.
@stevechance1502 жыл бұрын
Nice. I see what you did there.
@iainclark59642 жыл бұрын
What is being offered to the King here is the Heads of Proposals, considered the most generous terms for Charles and most of his advisers urged him to accept them. His father (James 1) would have done so.
@jeffransom94802 жыл бұрын
Amazing acting. So much underhanded subtlety, pointing to what history tells us about their ambitions.
@crazyman84728 ай бұрын
“That wasn’t part of the deal.” “I am altering the deal, pray I do not alter it any further.” 😎
@starguy27182 жыл бұрын
If you strike me down, Cromwell, I shall become more powerful than you can know.
@Badonicus2 жыл бұрын
These are not the proposals we're looking for!
@urmo3452 ай бұрын
Historically accurate: Charles I was stupidly steadfast!
@NUSORCA Жыл бұрын
00:14 sounds like Star Wars for 3 sec
@user-kt1jf7mk5i8 ай бұрын
Charles I actually did have a slight stutter and Alec Guinness even does that.
@SavoPaddy9 ай бұрын
Harris and Guinness go together like Harris and Guinness :) Harris sacrificed a promising singing career on the back of Macarthur Park to prepare for this role (altered his voice significantly). A proud Irishman playing Cromwell in a rather sympathetic portrayal, that was a brave role for an Irishman to take on. Two one-offs thankfully preserved on screen forever.
@JaxymannАй бұрын
Praise be to the late Richard Harris and Alec Guinness, two of the greatest actors of all time
@mn54992 жыл бұрын
This makes Oliver Cromwell look far more reasonable that what he actually was.
@Malt4542 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but Charles I rejected a good deal of reality himself... to predictable results.
@mn54992 жыл бұрын
@@Malt454 I don't think he rejected reality, Charles the 1st simply stood on a political position that was not a tenable as he thought it was.
@Malt4542 жыл бұрын
@@mn5499- When "not tenable" translates as "having your head chopped off", you've made a seriously delusional miscalculation about the lay of the land. Charles was in denial that he was even being tried, when it should have been obvious that no one was bothering going through the exercise on any assumption that he was somehow inherently innocent because of either his title or philosophy.
@mn54992 жыл бұрын
@@Malt454 I disagree with the word delusional, because its plain wrong, there were many rulers say for example in France and across the world that were acting as absolute monarchs even after the time of Charles the first. So its certainly not delusional to think that at the time. Charles the first made mistakes that pressed others to take action against him which made his position untenable. The republican project failed and then comes in Charles the 2nd the merry monarch.
@Malt4542 жыл бұрын
@@mn5499 - Believing that what other people thought of the theory of Divine Right somehow mattered when Charles I was in the dock on trial for his life is a good example of delusion, as is questioning the legitimacy of the court TO the court. The loss of the Civil War should have been a good indication that Charles' views on the monarchy were no longer strongly in vogue at the time. I guess if God had ever wanted Charles to be king, He must have changed His mind.
@perfectionbox2 жыл бұрын
Awwww Charles, you blew it 😪
@justinian-the-great2 жыл бұрын
If you ever wondered how this ended it goes like this: After king Charles refused the deal, he went into hiding on some Godforsaken sand planet and took the name Ben. But, as he felt the urge to help the young boy Richard, he invaded the Death-to-Irish Star and faced the Darth Lord Protector in a single combat. Ben, that is Charles, was defeated, but as Darth Lord Protector struck him down he became more powerful than the Darth could possibly imagine. Eventually returning as the Royal Force ghost, he revealed to the young Richard that the Darth Lord Protector is actually his father Oliver Cromwell and that he, Richard Cromwell must become the new Lord Protector (but not the Darth one, since it's you know.....evil).
@thebandit0256 Жыл бұрын
Hang on both of them should have their iconic characters and not Alec Guinness what about Oliver Cromwell change his name to Albus Dumbledore
@dagobert1234321 Жыл бұрын
You left the part out that Sir Oliver studied the arts of Merlin and joined the order of wizards 🧙♂️ somewhere in Scotland.. there he continued his lifelong passion for civil rights and confronted a friend by the name of Grindelwald.. at the twilight of his career he mentored a young Rizzard named Harry…. (Another story)
@lohancindy54422 жыл бұрын
Dumbledor vs Obi Wan
@vitodereine53602 жыл бұрын
Bruh...
@stevechance1502 жыл бұрын
@King of All Buttocks Seriously?! You're not that dumb.
@lohancindy54422 жыл бұрын
@King of All Buttocks LOTR reference ? There is no Leonard nemoy.
@oremstale85582 жыл бұрын
@King of All Buttocks embarrassing of u
@ButsNustin2 жыл бұрын
This movie is actually really good. I know it’s a bit of harmless fun, but constantly making Obi Wan and Dumbledore jokes seems kinda insulting to the amount of effort these actors put into their roles.
@randbarrett87062 жыл бұрын
It’s sucks to have an iconic role that people identify you with
@MrJoobafob2 жыл бұрын
Sir Alec Guinness would've absolutely hated it. He had a bit of a love-hate relationship with Star Wars, but was always adamant that he'd played far better roles than Obi Wan. I think he hated that a role in a pulpy sci-fi blockbuster outshone all his other work in more "serious" productions. He was perhaps a little bit snobbish about it, but I totally get where he was coming from.
@alabamaal2252 жыл бұрын
It is hard to imagine any other actor than Alec Guinness playing the role of King Charles I as effectively.
@methos-ey9nf2 жыл бұрын
I'll always remember Richard Harris as Augustus, Emperor of Rome
@ButsNustin2 жыл бұрын
@@alabamaal225 exactly! He even went through the effort of working in a stutter and spoke with a slight Scottish accent during his brief moment of anger.
@huntermoore7669 Жыл бұрын
Charlie’s really dropped the ball here..all he had to do as just alter his power a bit and he’d keep his head
@joshuagrover79510 ай бұрын
If you look at the "Heads of the Proposals" given to the King by Cromwell and his supporters, the main proposals are very reasonable. 1. Royalists had to wait five years before running for or holding an office. 2. The Book of Common Prayer was allowed to be read but not mandatory, and no penalties should be made for not going to church or attending other acts of worship. 3. The sitting parliament was to set a date for its own termination. Thereafter, biennial Parliaments were to be called (i.e., every two years), which would sit for a minimum of 120 days and a maximum of 240 days. Constituencies were to be reorganized. 4. Episcopacy would be retained in church government, but the power of the bishops would be substantially reduced. 5. Parliament was to control the appointment of state officials and officers in the army and navy for 10 years.
@robbied21139 ай бұрын
World class bumbler that guy.
@philswaim3922 жыл бұрын
And thats when he lost his crown
@lucastaylor23212 жыл бұрын
Shortly after... he was put on trial at Westminster first.. then his body lost its head.
@williameddy389511 ай бұрын
An England without a king is unthinkable.
@olivercromwell1599 Жыл бұрын
Good old days...
@angloaust15752 жыл бұрын
Difficult to say whether such a conversation took place However that's movie making Dialogue liberties!
@bigblue69172 жыл бұрын
I believe something like it did happen. Though whether that is word for word is in doubt.
@nickcharnley199 ай бұрын
oh dear, we do like fighting each other, I hope memory serves that together we achieved a fair bit, Tribal rivalries are always there, but with humour and a sense of common destiny, these small islands, can create great things.
@Zinj10002 ай бұрын
You can see the look on the man with the king. He realized the king was actually the one in the wrong, beyond reason. Great acting from everyone here.
@sablewright805310 ай бұрын
I have this marvelous film on DVD After I had seen this on Turner Classic Movies TCM. Such superb acting in this film. And the costumes simply excellent. Love this ❤❤❤❤
@EngPheniks Жыл бұрын
Both actors played Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius
@levilevis9032 Жыл бұрын
I see Obi Wan finally got to meet Dumbledore.
@lorddodge28674 ай бұрын
"Use the Force, Harry" - Gandalf
@hevyjameshulleza4612 жыл бұрын
And his head apparently...
@peterdavies2960 Жыл бұрын
The Force and Magic having an agreement 😂
@88kjk752 жыл бұрын
Me thinks Obi Wan lost the high ground in this one
@ronniecozzi83852 жыл бұрын
Ask the Irish what they think of Cromwell.
@Oran_Fitz3 ай бұрын
he was great, he helped civilise our barbaric land and, while i am atheist and do not support religious governance, he did at least shift the power away from the catholic church in favour of a more politics first, religion second republic.
@ronniecozzi83853 ай бұрын
@@Oran_Fitz The Catholic Church civilized Europe after the end of the Roman empire. They were the foundation that provided stability until the Renaissance. Thank you Jesus for the Catholic Church, your church, that will exist until the final coming. My prayers are for atheists in hope they see the light.
@BathSaltShaman Жыл бұрын
*Alternate film ending but it's just this scene perfectly as is except the credits roll a half-second after Guinness says "A cunning fellow."*
@troyleegaspard49502 жыл бұрын
Their future relations were less than amicable.
@davididiart59342 жыл бұрын
Might have been alright, if Charles didn't lose his head over the whole thing...
@Football__Junkie2 жыл бұрын
The fashion of this period was interesting
@QWEStudios Жыл бұрын
0:14 I hate that it sounds like the opening notes to the Force theme to me lmao
@Darrowenthusiast2 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore vs Obi Wan
@shaalis2 жыл бұрын
That Cromwell wishes a rule not through fear is ironic considering what he did at Drogheda, and what he lined the roads back to towns with.
@mr313372 жыл бұрын
On Monday, 10 September 1649, Cromwell had a letter delivered to Sir Arthur Aston, which read: "Sir, having brought the army of the Parliament of England before this place, to reduce it to obedience, *to the end that the effusion of blood may be prevented*, I thought fit to summon you to deliver the same into my hands to their use. *If this be refused, you will have no cause to blame me.* I expect your answer and remain your servant, - O. Cromwell" The contemporary laws of war were clear; if surrender was refused and a garrison was taken by assault, then its defenders could lawfully be killed. Such things didn't just happen in Ireland, it happened all over England and the rest of Europe. So while your mileage may vary, it sounds to me Aston was a dopey cunt and got all the innocent people of Drogheda killed, *not Cromwell* contrary to popular romantic Irish mythology. Still, its 372 years ago and everybody should just fucking get over it. Peace. :-)
@screamingseal48059 ай бұрын
@@mr31337yeah OP is just spewing royalist propaganda
@nelsonwalker71053 ай бұрын
i love this scene one of my favorites in this film
@sunnyjim135523 күн бұрын
No deal was negotiated here.. as Charles I was soon after to realize. 😂
@googleuser4720Ай бұрын
0:39 Of course I know him, he's me!
@swarnski8uu2 ай бұрын
I control the military, i can instill a government overnight.! Truer words never spoken. He may be king, but if his military abandons him, who is he, if he does not lead?
@SuperGreatSphinxАй бұрын
Ares
@therearenoshortcuts98685 ай бұрын
"whatever these proposals may be, they are not acceptable to the King" Obi Wan was determined to become one with the Force LOL
@rjstine12479 ай бұрын
Obi Wan and Dumbledore
@zekeigtos72402 жыл бұрын
I haven't gone by the name of Charles I since...oh...before you were born.
@arcadealchemist2 жыл бұрын
use the force mr Cromwell.
@rainmanslim46112 жыл бұрын
Xavier's school has a lot of history I see
@MuddieRain2 жыл бұрын
“Lord Protector is but another name for King, and you're a cruel one.”
2 жыл бұрын
I need a fanfiction of these two making out.
@chrismc410 Жыл бұрын
Or worse: bustin' cheeks
@davesy69698 ай бұрын
Oliver, i am your father.
@peterdavies2960 Жыл бұрын
To all you Yanks out there, they’re Obi-Wan Kenobe and Albus Dumbledore as young men in 17th Century England 😂
@vardellsfolly52002 жыл бұрын
Αll i see is Obi-Wan confronting Dumbledore..
@raminybhatti5740 Жыл бұрын
A cunning fellow and a good friend.
@andrewpestotnik54958 ай бұрын
The best Starhorse Rider in all of Christendome
@nqh43932 жыл бұрын
Charles I was a noble individual, but an inept ruler. Cromwell was a competent ruler, but a terrible human being.
@KaiserFranzJosefI2 жыл бұрын
Charles I was nothing of the sort. Alec Guiness was a magnificent actor but his portrayal of Charles was nothing short of Royal propaganda. In reality, Charles I was vain, adulterous, rather cruel and a thief. He was far from a noble individual but instead your average European monarch desperate to gain absolute power
@ilphi089 ай бұрын
Charles I kind of forced Cromwell's hand Cromwell was definitely not thrilled to execute a king considering the time period and potential backlash around rest of europe
@theenclave50 Жыл бұрын
A tyrant for a tyrant.
@johansmallberries98742 жыл бұрын
I do wonder, and I’m not so pedantic to consider this a mistake just a conversation point, if a visitor would be allowed to rest his hand on his sword pommel like this in the presence of the essentially unguarded king.
@lesigh17498 ай бұрын
At that point, the king had essentially lost the civil war, and Cromwell held the greater military power. had he wanted the king dead he wouldn't have dropped by to visit with just one friend.
@maxewmathwell2 ай бұрын
Nicol Williamson (Excalibur) should have played Obi-Wan Kenobi.
@nialldoyle82062 жыл бұрын
When the war criminal Cromwell died it is said there wasn’t a full bottle of alcohol in the country the next day.
@stevevollbach9 ай бұрын
watching this i cant help but wonder what george smiley and peter guillam are actually up to....
@hellokitty-ui9rd2 ай бұрын
watched this film in school
@Drone_PilotSG Жыл бұрын
It’s all fun and games until cromwell killed the king
@ememmeme87222 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore asked calmly
@Kerorofan19902 жыл бұрын
@@proudblack9453 I mean, he was. That's Richard Harris as Cromwell. He played Dumbledore in the first two movies before he passed away.
@wandaperi2 жыл бұрын
Normie
@theoutlook552 жыл бұрын
@Ethan S wrong Dumbledore.
@notnek2025 ай бұрын
Charles I beheaded his son restored to the throne as Charles II.
@perfectionbox2 жыл бұрын
Cromwell: Greetings my Lord. Charles: Hello there.
@Thanonemo2 жыл бұрын
I felt the sexual tension.
@TurboMMaster2 жыл бұрын
Not that I'm questioning Cromwell's political skills and effectivenes as military leader, but Charles I was kinda joke as opponent. I mean, he literally would rather die than share the power, even after it was obvious the he can't be absolute monarch.
@rickjones11769 ай бұрын
this movie ignores the slaughter of 33% of the irish population and the abject cruelty cromwell put on ireland
@SuperGreatSphinxАй бұрын
The Emerald
@zephyr80728 ай бұрын
Ah yes, one of the most tense and dramatic scenes in Kenobi vs. Dumbledore.
@pacificrules2 жыл бұрын
Both sides lost. 1. King's Charles' pride and arrogance that he can commit any crime and get away with only because he was "ordained by God" and therefore can only "answer to God." 2. The Honorable Oliver Cromwell angrily and impetuously acted against the King and the Commons to retain power and forcing Honorable gentlemen to sign the beheading.
@samuelbastable20282 жыл бұрын
Charles Also lost his head so.
@themi05982 жыл бұрын
recent comments a surprise to be sure but a welcome one
@equusquaggaquagga5362 жыл бұрын
I'd trust Charlie about as far as I could throw him
@Joker-yw9hl2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow all the comments are from the past day or 2. Hi folks
@toniclark1677 Жыл бұрын
Oliver Cromwell is actually my 9th great grandfather
@andrewbaer44973 ай бұрын
Dumbledore 1, Obi Wan 0
@jamesbarlow64232 жыл бұрын
(:58) Check out the anachronistic white metal door and window frames behind Cromwell!😅
@intothemultiverse103311 ай бұрын
“A cunning fellow… from a certain point of view”
@SuperGreatSphinxАй бұрын
Salazar Slytherin
@jmc66872 жыл бұрын
There was no limit to Cromwell's treachery.
@Artur-qq1ef6zm1l2 жыл бұрын
specifically in this situation, the traitor Charles, who preferred to collude with foreign powers and Catholics than to share power with parliament
@Treblaine2 жыл бұрын
@@Artur-qq1ef6zm1l It's exactly what Parliament would do a few years later, they would collude with a foreign protestant power to oust a king they didn't like for being too Catholic. And before that it was standard practice for monarchs to get military support from other countries to support what were otherwise domestic conflicts.
@Artur-qq1ef6zm1l2 жыл бұрын
@@Treblaine I didn't say that the parliament in this story was a good guy! but the execution of the king and the civil war eventually made England a better place as well as France :)the divine right of kings had to be destroyed because it contradicted progress and human rights! in addition, it was the bourgeois revolutions that finally destroyed the remnants of feudalism and allowed more progressive capitalism to earn
@Treblaine2 жыл бұрын
@@Artur-qq1ef6zm1l it is still hypocritical for Parliament to say it's so unthinkably wrong to collude with a foreign power to overtake a country then go and do that themselves when it suits their theocratic ideals. This act of treachery is still referred to as "Glorious". They took away the king's power not because he threatened individuals in his realm but was perceived as a threat to Protestantism as a religion where individual human rights were secondary to establishing that religious belief. They didn't want to end religious discrimination, they wanted religious discrimination to go one way but not the other. It established a new theocracy where it was great if you were part of the established religion and progressively worse for those who deviated more and more from the state religion. Now the fact that later parliament would mellow and moderate and SLOWLY over CENTURIES begrudgingly ease their state sponsored discrimination is something to celebrate but then and only when they actually did that. There are still no individual rights that actually limit the legislature or the government in the UK/ Whatever "rights" you have in England are simply what Parliament hasn't gotten round to outlawing yet. You have a right to protest right up until Parliament says you don't and there's NOTHING you can do about it if they take it away. There is only one right in the UK and that is the right for Parliament to do whatever the hell they like. English courts can only EXPAND what is forbidden by law, not decrease it. They cannot invalidate a law for violating rights because the UK has "absolute supremacy of Parliament".
@Artur-qq1ef6zm1l2 жыл бұрын
@@Treblaine I'm not saying that this system is perfect, I generally sympathize with the Communists and the USSR, and if we talk about the revolution that had a huge impact, it's French, not English! perhaps the British really need a king and religious fanaticism in the end, the imperial consciousness and sense of their own fake greatness have not left them, this is especially noticeable in the example of the United States, which is simply the British Empire in a new wrapper
@notnek2025 ай бұрын
King Charles III is a direct descendant of King Charles I sister Elisabeth.
@rob5944 Жыл бұрын
Some intellectual discourse here, which is nice to read. However we must be mindful that were are discussing the acts and motivations of people who lived in a very different world to our own, and therefore not be quick to judge and condemn. Society changes and moreover continues to, my own beliefs and opinions certainly have over the last few months in particular.
@damianbylightning682310 ай бұрын
Thank you for your good sense. Most comments on here are irrelevant! They all want to impose our beliefs and motivations on that time. This is a stupid thing to do. They were people stumbling along, often making things up as they fumbled - but we often think of them as decisive . The period has roots that go way back and this adds to our confusion and added to theirs. They created a giant pudding of an idea and sections of the rising classes wanted it to work. We are now going through the same thing with mumbo-jumbo like Net Zero - though I think the loony ideas of the old religious fanatics will prove more useful than our contemporary fanatics.
@ryan.19905 ай бұрын
The audacity of Cromwell
@BenDSteele2 ай бұрын
Still confused as to why Obi Wan and Phil Collins are at conflict.
@johnhand88792 жыл бұрын
How did they not laugh at one another
@BirbarianHomeGuard10 ай бұрын
You can’t win, Dumbledore. Strike me down, and I’ll become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
@keithbell39262 жыл бұрын
How hard must it have been for an Irishman to play Cromwell considering what he did to the Irish
@asdf333959 ай бұрын
it was 350 years ago, I don't think it weighed too heavily on him
@keithbell39269 ай бұрын
Then you don’t know the Irish
@deaconstjohn48429 ай бұрын
@@asdf33395 you'd be surprised by how some people take heritage really seriously. History is never forgotten and should never be forgotten, so I'm sure it was quite the challenge for Richard Harris
@m1821Z8 ай бұрын
Richard Harris was actually very adamant about playing the role BECAUSE he was Irish. Harris believed Cromwell was misrepresented by history and post-humous depictions, and that simply throwing all the blame at Cromwell was very ignorant. Harris was spot on after all, it was the Covenanters who ravaged Ireland much more brutally than the New Model Army, and one cannot forget the fact that the Royalists used Ireland as a base of operations in a war that did nothing for the interests of Irish people.
@urmum37738 ай бұрын
@@deaconstjohn4842 Snowflake
@a.t.c.38622 жыл бұрын
So the King made himself unacceptable.
@thepointlesstroll57022 ай бұрын
Are those buildings historically accurate?
@patio872 жыл бұрын
King Charles was such a fool.
@pagongtagi612414 күн бұрын
Obiwan Kenobi and Albus Dumbledore negotiate a deal.
@penultimateh7662 жыл бұрын
Except that Charles was NOT a tyrant, and Cromwell WAS ambitions.
@vexjaeger43142 жыл бұрын
And to be sure Cromwell is honorable man....
@Dularr2 жыл бұрын
How was Charles I not a tyrant?
@michaelf70932 жыл бұрын
@@vexjaeger4314 Cromwell was great for England. Terrible for Ireland.
@penultimateh7662 жыл бұрын
@@vexjaeger4314 The fault lies not in our stars but in ourselves that we are underlings.
@penultimateh7662 жыл бұрын
@@Dularr He wasn't a particularly kleptocratic king, just a tin-eared one.
@Howlrunner822 жыл бұрын
I can't be the only one thinking the king is the good guy in the movie...Cromwell is nothing but bad vibes the whole movie