Super interesting video. I'm a Garmin user (6x Pro) but have been curious about the Whoop. I'll admit that when I bought the 6x Pro I didn't know about the body batter feature (was using a base model vivoactive 3 before that) but I LOVE it. Seriously helps me make sure I'm getting good recovery in between hard efforts. I don't think I used to give myself enough recovery time, but the body battery has helped me reign that in. Good stuff!

Holy Moly, great video! I LOVE this kind of comparisons between different platforms

Thank you. I am always anxious the day before a race or cycling with significant mileage.. Garmin body battery works like magic. I think with the Training Readiness, the game has changed tables significantly. Thank for the great content.

Very helpful comparisons-thank you for sharing!

I appreciate this visual head-to-head comparison. I like the clean interface of the Whoop, but that high subscription fee is hard to justify. And nice to learn that running an ultra doesn’t seem to hammer you as much as building gingerbread houses! 😀

Awesome video! Super interesting to see the comparison of data side by side. I realy like the body battery function on my Garmin, I feel like it's scary how accurate it is sometimes haha

Woah! This is so cool! Would love to see more comparisons between the fenix 6 and the Whoop 4.0 band. Also, thanks for your videos! They're helpful as always! It's because of your videos that I recently ordered the fenix 6! 👍🏽

really helpful video. i am a garmin owner who was considering getting a whoop b/c it seemed like i would get more insights. however, good to know that the body battery already synthesizes it all quite nicely using RHR, HRV and other data points. also good to know you don't need your body battery to be close to 100 before a big race

I’m just getting into this fitness stuff on my Garmin watch, and your videos are some of the best I’ve viewed. Thanks for all the info and analysis!

Nice job. Thanks for the info I appreciate it

Great work, thanks buddy!

Been on the Garmin Fenix since the 5X. EDC is the Fenix 6X Pro Solar (Totally Trust) and rely on it daily.. Great Video (as always)…. 🇺🇸

Congrats on the Ultra!!

I'm thinking about getting a Whoop, Thanks for the discount link!

Hi, great video. I’ve been using Whoop 3.0 for about a year before I switched to Fenix 6, and I’m glad I did. Fenix 6 is much more accurate and you can use HR strap during workout and that makes Fenix 6 even more accurate then Whoop. Body battery makes a lot more sense, because it’s all day metric. Whoop is only one time number. And Fenix 6 counts your recovery by the hour after workout as well and that makes more sense too. Over all Fenix 6 and its Firstbeat performance analytics for stress, recovery and workout are much more useful and accurate if you understand and learn the way they work. Thanks for awesome video. 😉

Thanks! very informative review!

Nice. I've been hoping for something like this.

Just saw the video, now the platform called habit dash has the compare feature. Great to compare your devices when it comes to tracked performance/health data :)

Awesome. Thanks for sharing

I have had Garmins in the past but I have had a Whoop band for nearly 18 months. I will be going back to Garmin when my subscription ends. I have enjoyed having the extra analytics that Garmin didn’t have at the start but have got to the point where I don’t feel I am learning anything new about myself. I enjoyed not being connected to my phone constantly without notifications on my wrist, but now I have a baby and if I don’t notice a cry for help with a nappy explosion it doesn’t go down well with my other half. I have also found that I have kept my Garmin and will still use it on runs so I am developing multiple tan line which only needs to be one

Great video Dave, interesting to see of that kind of value you can get out of these gadgets regarding recovery/body battery measurement. However the biggest downside (that overweights all of the upsides) is the anxiety of not getting the targets and loosing sleep over that anxiety. Anxiety is one of the main factors of sleep deprivation and getting info that you are only 5% recovered after your restless night, will make the next night even more stress full for me, which will result in even more bad data, which will cause even worse sleep and the cycle will go on... 😁

great detailed video, i appreciate it. That being said, imho if you actually do such a runs, they should be planned and you should be fully recovered and ready to go beforehand.

Good work, man. Keep it going! You da man!

Nice one, really interesting to see and compare

Nice video. I also have a garmin and a whoop 3.0...still waiting for my 4.0. I rely solely on my whoop to calculate recovery mainly due to it being very comfortable and easy to sleep with. Also, whoops algorithms seem to be pretty accurate and align closely with how I feel. After all, Whoops sole purpose is to track sleep and recovery so I would hope that the information would be accurate. The subscription thing kinda sucks but they are constantly improving their algorithms and I know I can rely on the data.

Excellent video!

Hi, great video. It would be great if you did the same but comparing Polar with its Performance Test and sports functions such as Training Load PRO, Nightly Recharge, Running / cycling performance, Orthostatic, etc.

WOW! Great analysis! You may not be a scientist but you sure think like one, Dave.

Great video and thanks for sharing. I’ve been using my Garmin Fenix 5x Plus for 3yrs now and love it (Garmin HRM pro for past year also). Been looking into maybe switching to Whoop mainly due to fact I can’t sleep with such a large watch on my wrist. So I miss out on the body battery for the most important part of recovery. Like everyone though it’s the monthly fee coming out every month is what’s putting me off. But if you pay the 12/24 month up front you can get 3yrs for cost of new Fenix series.

I think they both bring value but the Garmin is the better value without a monthly subscription. I love my fenix 6X sapphire and have been wearing Garmin fenix watches since the 3. My Garmin pretty much told me I had Covid too based on RHR, HR, Stress, and Body Battery. Pretty cool stuff!

There’s a subset of people like myself that, as you do, work in an office setting, & I meet clients often. That said, I prefer a regular watch that doesn’t make me look at my wrist when with clients by buzzing buzzing me, making them feel that I need to end the meeting & that I have to leave. So, having a fitness tracker that doesn’t ever bother me is my preference. I’ll check my phone for data when I have time. Thanks, great video.

Dave, love your videos and content. I recently picked up the Epix 2 and also am a Whoop user. I tried Whoop and have a few months left but am wondering if both are necessary. The challenge I am having is I don't want to wear the Epix 24/7 especially during the day. Do you think body battery would be accurate if I wore my Garmin after work through the night and during my morning workouts. My job is pretty sedentary so I don't see much benefit in wearing all day. Do you agree? I especially like the new stamina feature but want it to be accurate. I feel like the most important time to wear the Garmin is before bed, during sleep and during activity. Love your feedback. I wish Garmin would upgrade the Vivosmart 4 band so it worked flawlessly with the Epix 2.

almost 15k views and just 675 likes? C'mon guys dont be this stingy for a great review. It doesn't cost anything. Thank you Dave 🙏🙏 for what you do!

I have a Garmin Fenix 5. Loved it. Got the Fenix 6 Pro. I love it even more. After a year with the Fenix 6 i can no longer see the information on the screen. I can only access information through the app now. Not happy... they aren’t cheap! I’m contemplating getting Whoop now and going back to my Fenix 5 since the screen and lighting is perfect there. That’s a lot of money to invest in Garmin and not have a screen with the Fenix 6. Thanks for the review of the Whoop!

I have find usefull combine body battery with recovery time (hours or days). Because, as you mentiond, BB will get increase after long sleep. Even more if there will be two days in row without activity and long sleep. But that doesnt mean that we are recoverd well... I am very satisfied with Garmin data :) I have compared them to some semiprofi tools and they are very very close.

. It's interesting to see this kind of comparison since to me body battery is one of the most important features. I would love to see similar with Coros and Polar for example,. curious to know which company has the most comprehensive one. PS great video again

Was super interesting thank you very much is

Nothing like Garmin for me. I had Garmin for over 10 years, from Garmin 10 to 935xt, 500 to 1030 Edge, to swim...and never had any issues...

Great video as always! I have both the Whoop 4.0 and a Fenix 6. I really appreciate how the data is presented and ability to track trends and how they affect me over time (on the Whoop). To me - that’s the most valuable part of it. It’s such a simply thing to track, I’m surprised not much else does this. I love my Fenix - but the Whoop provides good info for me that I find benefit from and don’t feel like the cost is that bad (if you pay for the longer subscription). Like you said - the Whoop is just a band. I will always need a watch!

Hi great video, I’m curious do you still use the whoop ? If so do you also use a Garmin at the same time ? I’m also trying to figure out if someone uses both can all that data flow to apple health .

Great vidoe. Trying to find the right fitness tracker for me. I workout everyday. Mostly strength training in the gym followed by a short bike or eliptical. I run a 5k only about 2 days a week and maybe a kettlebell workout once a week. . So really not out doors. Have been trying out the fenix 6, but can't wear it during kettlebell workouts. Thinking maybe a whoop, or keep garmin. Don't use the GPS on fenix 6 too often. Also, does Garmin measure HRV for recovery? I know whoop does. What do you think would be best for me. Thanks. and keep up the great work.

Does the whoop kind of get to know you over time ? I train between 20-30 hours a week. I’m afraid that it will tell me that my strain is really high if it doesn’t adjust itself to my training load …

I've been a Whoop user for ~ 2yrs and got the Fenix 6s about 3 months ago. Since a firmware update in around October (for the 3.0), and on the 4.0 I'm seeing almost perfect agreement between body battery and recovery score. Right now the only advantage I'm seeing in Whoop is the health metrics/respiratory rate as I do find it helpful in mapping out "I think I'm getting sick". My Whoop subscription ends in March and I'm having a hard time convincing myself to keep paying $18 a month for it, unless some major new features on the software side drop. With the impending Fenix 7, I feel like it'll be an even harder sell. If Garmin could figure out a better online platform for Connect that let me see multiple months of data (particularly HRV, body battery, and sleep) I would probably leave Whoop behind.

Where do you go too to get all that Garmin info ???

Which garmin watch did you use to record the marathon?

Interesting video I think what would be helpful is -How did you actually feel compared to their measurements? did you feel 50% recovered or closer to 30%? -when did you actually wake up? Was Whoop right or was the Fenix? -Which HR was right? I had a whoop for years. I think $30 for their info a month was genuine robbery. The strap itself is fine but its HRM is not nearly what you get in any high end sports watch at this point. It has become a lifestyle flex piece IMO.

Yes, thumbs up. For me. I went with whoop 4.0. I don't go anywhere without my phone in most cases. I don't want to be distracted by looking at my wrist and trying to see data. $1. a day is nothing in my thoughts. I did not like the burning sensation I felt when I first wore it. But going to bed with it the following day, I do not notice it anymore. I will grab my Garmin GPS unit if I want accurate GPS tracking. I can dial that thing in really tight. My sport is MTB. The real plus for me with Whoop is how compact it is. I am a repair tech and use my hands and have them inside the equipment. So Whoop, being so small and tight is very important to me. It is a pain when your hands get stuck because of a wrist gadget hanging up on wires and equipment.

Has anyone bought a cheaper Garmin fitness band etc. to wear when sleeping to take advantage of body battery while wearing bulkier Garmin GPS watch throughout the day? I hate wearing my Instinct to bed but would really like to take advantage of the body battery feature. Would data even sync across 2 devices on Garmin Connect?

Good review

Thank you for this. My biggest concern with Garmin has been their sleep metrics. I want a GPS watch once my Whoop memebership expires and this helped tremendously. One quick question, How is Coros sleep tracking?

Speaking of bands, I just bought the Coros Vertix. I'm looking at cheaper bands on Ebay/Amazon. Any suggestion on what fits?

The calories burned on garmin is supposed to be plus minus 7% variance compared to hospital grade equipment. First beat (what garmin uses) has a white paper on this actually thats pretty interesting if you are nerdy like me. Cant speak to the whoop numbers but first beat algorithm is supposed to be the most accurate out there from third party tests with hospital grade equipment being the baseline.

I'm a Garmin user (245) and have really been wondering how all of the first beat stuff compares to whoop, thanks for making this!

I just got my WHOOP and I also have a COROS watch. Do you find that wearing them on opposite wrists works OK?

Comparing price. Fenix 7XSS is 4 years of Whoop price if the Whoop price remains the same and we pay the cheapest 24 month subscription rather than monthly. I expect my garmin to go farther than that. But the advantage with Whoop is newer hardware and newer features every 6 months ig,

Why I have enduro 2 and epix 2 and body battery 🔋 the numbers are different why and which one is right?

Currently a Garmin user aa well as a whoop 3, how do you find the whoop 4 compared to the 3?

Considering that a base model fenix 6 can be had for about 400$ and a body battery compatible forerunner for less than half, all with significantly more features I find it very hard to justify the monthly price of the whoop. Also, I live in the alps, so the extra sensors in the watch like the altimeter make a lot of sense for me and the whoop band would be a significant down grade.

Very interesting video. Whoop is such an interesting device. I feel like so many other device can track the same metrics. Many of those devices actually track this stuff more accurately. But everyone loves the way Whoop presents the data. #whoopCult I expect a lot of companies will copy it. I just hope that everyone doesn't start adding a monthly fee for presenting the data to us. 🤮

On the whoop data of the ultra day you have HR peaks of +/- 200 outside of the event. Do you have an explanation for this or is it just faulty measurements? My old whoop 3.0 has these false measurements all the time and really messed up the strain score for each day

Great video I would definitely chose an upfront cost over the subscription. The subscription can and most likely increase over time. Hey, just one question. Why did your stress level increase just before you went to bed? Did your wife have anything to do with that😜

Can you explain how we get VO 2 Max on different activities it works well when I run but I haven’t got a clue how to set it up when I’m riding my mountain bike riding normal bike please

Why does the whoop band seem to show you repeatedly spike to 200bpm? For a device that is heavily reliant on good quality heart rate it's a bit of a concern to see these spikes.

What about Polar's Nightly Recharge?

Whoop data are strange to me. I think Garmin has more information. During Ultra events the body battery is useless. At my last ultra I went down from 62 to 11 during the first 4h. The next 3.5h it went down to 5. And 5 stayed until 2am in the night. So this makes no sense and on the other hand it looks like that I go into minus and it takes time and sleep to come back. It should show this, but 5 seems to be the end of the chart. What I can see, it does not lean, there is no zeroing out.

Cool!

I will stick with my Garmin as I have the same

Garmin is about 2 years of whoop, just that makes whoop the most logical choice ..

You haven't published any video's for over 7 days now which is weird or maybe you're working on something big like reviewing a new watch from Garmin or maybe I'm wrong 🤫... Anyway i know you couldn't tell as if it was but at least we deserve a teaser 😁. Hope you the best

Going into race day with a 18% recovery and then hitting a 20.7 strain is pretty sick :) Interesting comparison

Wow, 42 is a pretty low BB score for an ultra marathon race day!

Be absolutely clear that Whoop’s sleep tracker is highly flawed. Last night it recorded that I was “awake” for 4 hours and 35 minutes. Total nonsense.

They’re some pretty huge discrepancies in the time you what time you woke up. + 10 minutes is HUGE!

Had to sell my whoop, it was too simple. Not a terrible product and I liked its sleep tracking, but for its price it felt like a scam lol.

My take away from all this , we really need to improve your quality of sleep 😂

Garmin is better ❤

Stress should not be looked at as bad. When he talks about building the stuff with his kids… it just means you’re moving around so your heart race is up which = stress. It’s healthy stress. “Maybe I was stressed I dunno” …. This is the problem with people hyper analyzing everything.

Whoop is shite. That’s not me being nasty but the GARMIN gives you so much More. £30 a month as well for a basic unit that doesn’t really do much else.