Lmao the first 10 minutes sounds exactly like something I would waste an entire day doing. Thanks for the heads up!

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My man, doing Stadia (1:57) dirty like that.

Shaved head look really suits you, cleaner, sleeker and makes you look younger too.

I was planning of setting up TrueNas next week. This will help out.

"Ryan doesn't have access to the pool" made me chuckle

OFFICIALLY THE BEST EXPLANATION .. Covers ACLs, what things mean, and speaks candidly about issues. THANK YOU!

Your USB woes were exactly the issue I was having about 6 months ago. All of the documentation I could find said to use a USB stick to boot. After 3 attempts in 5 days I just used a different OS. Now though, I may switch it up! Thanks for the video and new project idea!

You're spot on about the plugins. I've been using FreeNAS and now TrueNAS for six years and it's almost always a pain. It only breaks once or twice a year but because I'm not a power user I forget everything that fixed it the last time...or it breaks in a whole different way! Great video. The intro was hilarious.

Excellent Video!! Thanks for putting in the work, it made things a lot easier for me.

Neat! I actually am excited to play with this

Ryan video? Hype! Love your sense of humor man

Thank you for saving us the same pain of trial and error 🙌🏻

I'm in the process of building my own NAS the guys on the L1Techs forum are awesome and very helpful. I recommend that people join, thanks guys.

I like that you talked about the problems you ran into. Many reviewers and guides don't.

Very clear and well paced explanation thanks.

These Ryan productions are getting really good. New cam??

I had the same middleware issue... I was pretty sure I was crazy, good to know I am not alone.

Good video, very informative

I had the same problem when trying to install TrueNAS. I used a 64GB USB 3.0 stick as boot medium and it got stuck during the boot process at different points. From the messages I could tell the loader had problems reading from the stick. I figured TrueNAS was having problems with USB 3.0, so I went out and bought a 16GB USB 2.0 stick and used that. It worked right away. I installed TrueNAS on the 64GB USB 3.0 stick and it works perfectly since then. Really weird. But thanks to your video I know now that it's actually a heat problem. I never would have guessed that!

I just setup a TrueNAS vm in proxmox a few days ago. Planning on building a whole NAS eventually.

Don't worry about the SSD cache (L2ARC) I used it too with 8 GB DDR2 and a memory cache (L1ARC) of max 2 GB and L2ARC in a 64 GB partition and the LOG in a 4 GB partition and the remainder was the Host boot partition. I used 3 disks in total 1.8 TB. The SSD cache really helped with the initial boot times and Initial App load times from the Virtual Machines. Linux VM boot times were 15 - 25 seconds instead of >60 seconds. After those initial actions the VMs and Host run from the L1ARC, assuming you run only 1 or max 2 VMs in the remainder of that 8 GB. You only have an advantage from the LOG for synchronous IOs, like done by VMs and databases. The SSD cache helps with initial activities (booting VMs. loading Apps and loading database indexes, etc), once everything is loaded, most IO will be served by the memory cache. Afterwards the SSD cache is only useful as overflow for the memory cache. For a home file server with mostly 1 or 2 active users, the SSD cache is not very usefull. If you don't have OpenZFS 2.0 from begin December, don't switch off your computer, but suspend it (only memory has power), to avoid the cache content being lost. Note that only the latest OpenZFS 2.0 keeps the SSD cache content after power-off and reboot.

On top of that the screenshot showed a WD Red recomendation for the drives, those are SMR now. (Though the Red Plus's are fine.)

Thank you, setup my 1st Truenas box to store my family data. Working remote access next.

My god, I was getting real into sharpening some tech skills and working on projects during the pandemic. Slapped together my first gaming PC and started trying to install this. I kept on trying, crashing, changing something and repeat. I dropped the project entirely 6 months ago. 2 days ago I finally faced the beast again. After a few failed installs I popped freenas on my ssd. Worked first time. I shared my first files on samba within 30 minutes. It's got good core functionality, but my god I pity all the time myself and others have wasted on usb install.

Lol “obtuse and broken” what a recommendation! Nice run-through L1

you said you even had some problems installing it to an ssd. is it possible it might have been some weird bug by using rufus to flash the iso instead of the recomended "balena etcher" program?

FreeNAS / TrueNAS is great for what it's supposed to do: being a NAS. I don't run any plugins or VMs on it anymore, though. Instead I use another box running XCP-ng with tons of VMs with all the applications I want to run. It connects to FreeNAS for storage via iSCSI over a 10Gb dedicated link. Works great!

I wish I watched this yesterday and saved myself 12hours of life too, omg, the frustrations doing just the fresh install. Before that it had broken old freenas install on disk (upgrade). And yeah, good idea to make dataset, even if there is to be only one.

Hey, this might be a good place to ask about a peculiar problem. I'm trying to run a truenas instance (unraid as well also crashes) and I'm getting hardware lock up issues where all the devices connected to the computer stop acting like they're connected, but the computer keeps running. Tried changing out PSU, no change. I'm using a ryzen 1400 and tried to do the C state disable and no change there either. Memcheck shows totally clear on the memory after many passes (10 or so?) so that probably isn't an issue. I added an intel NIC after learning realtec can have issues, but that didn't help either. Have any of you ever run into an issue like this? I'd really like to get this computer to be a stable NAS but nothing seems to work. After a PSU change right now I'm blaming the CPU and planning to replace it with a 2nd gen ryzen or a 3rd gen. Any ideas?

when you type in your password you should mute audio so the keyboard strokes dont get on youtube - there have been demonstrated attacks of being able to decode what people are typing based on the sound of your key presses alone

"Obviously, nobody's using Stadia." (1:57) Ryan=SAVAGE!

You are about the only person thats ever really went into details about the permission system even though it was still mostly basic just to get it up and running, I tried my hand with TrueNAS Scale, oh man oh man the permission system is such a mess, they have so many users that over ride other users, I somehow made a user that could only delete files, but couldn't write or move files or add files, then I somehow made that user able to delete only zip files, but everything else was write protected! I think im staying with core....

I'm still using FreeNAS and dual USB drives (RAID-1) for booting my file server. Good to know that USB disks are not supported. Does TrueNAS support dual NVME SSDs in RAID-1 for booting?

Just a reminder: the usb 3.0 usb thumbdrive error also happens when creating a windows boot drive. Either use an external drive or stick with usb 2.0

I wonder if the USB issue is why after a few updates my USB drives failed. Either it was heavier usage or they started using the faster speeds like you encountered because when they failed they were hot as hell. I switched to some $30 enterprise intel SSDs and having had any issues since.

Question: I have 3 4TB disks, what is the best solution for redundancy? I tried Raid5, painfully slow. Windows storage spaces seems to work ok. Edit: I have a spare Core2 quad with 8GB ram (maxed out) computer collecting dust. (Sorry for bad English)

last month i built a 16tb truenas server. I installed it on a usb 3 thumb drive. it took like 20 min to install and booted up fine. no problems 1 month later

I'm new to the NAS / home media server solution. So is truenas stable for use? Or does anybody have any other recommendations?

From a FreeNAS user, On SMB, something that people should be aware of is that Windows only really lets you have one mounted share per device, so if you want to be able to access all your data from a machine you are going to need some sort of user that has access to the entire pool. Plugins can be a little wonky for some things (sometimes it falls behind on updates too); Jails work perfectly but they do require all the manual setup. If your TrueNAS is the only thing that you use as a server/on 24/7 then you can definitely use Jails to handle all the other tasks you need. Snapshots work great and I recommend everyone set them up give you a fallback in case of accidents. You can also set it up to be visible to Windows Shadowcopy so you can access and restore files over SMB using the snapshots.

Brother-in-law bought a Western Digital MyCloud 5 X2c ultra or something like that. Their software is very un-intuitive for someone that knows nothing about a NAS. I have an older computer with I think 12TB of storage that I was thinking about converting into a NAS and came across this video. This looks more well designed that the solution my brother in law bought. Thanks for the vid. EDIT: Obtuse and difficult to understand is a common theme of most NAS software. They don't look at it from a novice user point of view at all.

Great video and walk through here. I have used FreeNAS a bit in the past mainly to present iSCSI storage to my ESX server. I just am not a fan of chucking all my storage into my hypervisor. I haven't had much free time (since we entered the upside down) to look at TrueNAS Core. The USB boot device thing was something I had noticed the last time I setup FreeNAS, disappointing but I/we push on. I personally run UnRAID for media and non-important file storage, which by total size on disk is nearly all of my data. I have been using FreeNAS server for iSCSI storage for VMs (10gb link between FreeNAS and ESX) as well as a smaller pool for critical data (PC backups, YT data, other smaller files). Haven't had a chance to compare creating a VM in FreeNAS (TrueCORE someday soon) to ESX, might need to look into it. Hopefully in the next month or two I can get my to-be-installed FreeNAS Core in fighting shape serving up some storage :)

Your stadia burn earned you my like!

Wondering if we could get a similar assessment for TrueNAS Scale. I started messing around with it, but the permissions threw me for a bit of a loop.

I had the same exact issue with truenas! Spent many many hours troubleshooting. Ended up installing an SSD and calling it a day. I have videos on my channel of dealing with it.

Hm...my 10-year-old FreeNAS pool's system disk was a 16G drug store USB thumb drive. Last weekend I rebuilt the box, upgrading the drives, memory, replacing the PSU, etc. TrueNAS Core is fantastic! This time, the system disk is an SSD. Install and setup, including scheduled scrubs, S.M.A.R.T tests, and notifications took about 30 minutes. The platform is amazing! Install / setup doesn't have to hurt. Just use the SSD, or better yet, two, for a system disk mirror.

i installed true nas core and had it all working with a pool. groups and users. Mapped the drive in a windows machine. Could not get the plugins to even load

I am really surprised you had so many issues with this; I had no trouble getting my TrueNAS Core systems running smoothly.

Just LOVED the Stadia diss!

A man of the people

For that use case I would choose unraid. Works out of the box.

Hey man, I am actually listening Level1 news in a morning so leave my addiction be.

That's why I always virtualize my Free/TrueNAS There's never a problem with the virt disc and when I pass through the drives for data, all I have to do is just keep good snapshots and the is is good to go of it ever fails!

I’ve had flakiness from truenas (and previously with FreeNAS) on the OS/boot drive and config side... but luckily it’s super solid on the data drive side (if you get really sideways just reinstall the OS and reimport your data pools). I had some network flakiness too with an intel x550 nic, it’s been good with a Chelsio t520 since. I’m ok using it for home but I’m not sure I trust the availability enough to put 100 users on it at work. A huge part of your enjoyment of the system is from using well planned hardware (doesn’t have to be unobtanium based)... HQL NIC, reliable boot drive, large number of drives, NVME write cache, 32GB+ RAM (queue the 1GB/1TB ratio argument), good cooling (drives and cpu/nic).... if you do that it’s lovely. I hear you on the separation of application and storage... I’ve been really happy having applications on another box and treating truesas as storage.

Installed Truenas on a Cruzer Fit USB3.0 drive with no issues. Took less than 5 min.

Ryan, haver mercy with our eyes when you get that white screen in the browser. :p

Ooooh I'm very interested in the TrueNAS Scale video

Time to revisit, update just released.

When Ryan mentioned using stadia in the bathroom he lost me, but then he turned it around and slam dunked stadia.

I've lost an ESXi host and multiple windows installs to overheating/failing microcenter sticks, had to learn the hard way.

i was having the same exact problem while doing a full installation of a debian linux on a 64gb usb3 flash drive (trancend jet drive ) , after a couple of lengthy installations, changing between UEFI/Legacy and random failures to boot, i figured it must be a faulty disk . i didnt know that was the issue, i didnt have any problems during installation on HDD or SSD. good stuff buddy

I've been running TrueNAS for a while now! A few hiccups but pretty good nonetheless!

How does this compare to Open Media Vault?

Glad i installed truenas on spinning rust.

*THANK YOU RYAN* So glad I didn't go with FreeNAS/TrueNAS. That's exactly the experience I wanted to avoid. Could you do a "Checking Out" on OMV (Open Media Vault) too? inb4: _I've been running freenas for over 50 years and never had any problems_

I have Data Hoarding too. If I hadn't lost a drive in the middle of a backup a few years ago I would still have data going back to the my DOS 5 days.

Your comments are so on point about TrueNas. It's a great system unlimited storage but for the other plugins etc, I would prefer to use something else. Permissions seem to be one of the biggest bug bears I've seen on any system.

I used a new PNY usb drive to install... worked ok... But had a heck of a time getting it to recognize the pcie sata card... It just miracle showed up eventually... Everything else has been going smooth..took 3plus hours to format each drive though

Having a QNAP-459 Pro from 2007 and the QTS OS is outsated as hell, installed OpenMediaVault (based on Debian buster) abt. 1.5 years ago. Didn't need to fiddle around to much to get all my data on raid 5 recognized again. Running fine since. Had a look at TrueNAS and FreeNAS but the requirements of OpenMediaVault is way more forgiving.

Crazy, I haven't had a single issue with it. Loaded on a Samsung SSD, using for a media server. Works well with 4 10TB drives in raid.

Just did my setup last Sunday actually, using a simple ITX box on Ryzen Pro and works like a charm. But problem with some hardware because of driver support on FreeBSD...

At the beginning of 2020 I did 3 FreeNAS installs on 3 different old 64 bit Granny PCs I had. All using USB, one stable, other 2 not. Then the stable one started playing up, couldn't figure out why. Reinstalled on SSD and EVERYTHING worked smoothly. In Novemeber 2020, I now trust FreeNAS/TrueNAS and my Plex install/file share/snapshot backup is smooth as butter...I do have good hardware though, old, but good.

I spent _days_ getting FreeNAS installed and running properly on my Intel rack server, but since I got it setup it's been rock solid for months now. One of the suggested requirements for installing FreeNAS was to use a USB 2 drive/port for the OS install, and I guess this is why lol. With a 10 gig NIC and 96 gigs of memory I can get some insane transfers to/from the NAS despite the destination being 5 spinning rust drives.

I didn't recognize you for a minute... Was thinking who's this new guy.... I like the look :)

The first 10 minutes was sort of what my experience setting up traefik was like, even with guides/tutorials and example configs, to be clear it was working but just not quite right, like not upgrading to https and I spent a good 10+ hours trying to get it right, thank goodness nginx proxy manager came along it's so much better and easier to use.

I run TrueN Core in a VM. SMB & NFS shares, and sshfs mount on my main rig. It is the Bomb.

I've been using it ever since watching your media server series with Krista and the 2013 Great Discovery Purge. I like how everything is just there. Compared to OMV, where you need to install a plugin and do snapshots with cron jobs instead of a nice UI. But my biggest gripe has been the UI. So much wasted space and spread out buttons. Also not being able to modify the same setting for multiple VMs or jails.

22:12 If you keep "Permissions Type" as Basic, you can choose Full Control under "Permissions" instead of manually selecting all of the permissions. At least, that's what I do 😉

Advertisement seems mismatched with the content? Why not a mobo youd likely to use with truenas

I installed FreeNAS to a WD Green SSD and it kept corrupting the OS files. Drove me nuts swapping and testing hardware, eventually figured out FreeNAS has some issue with certain SSDs unless you disable TRIM.

Woot!

I have been using compact flash drives to boot FreeNAS for years. Currently running a TrueNas core system off of a compact flash drive. Not tried an SD card, I was planning on using a microSD, but may rethink that. My biggest installation problems have resulted from using older hardware where you can switch between BIOS, UEFI, and some sort of automatic mode... which, anything but UEFI seems to fail the installation with what appears to be install media errors.

I'm more excited about TrueNAS SCALE based on linux as it will let You use regular docker containers instead of the jail garbage.

1:54 "I am being somewhat hyperbole , no one has been using Stadia" LOL i come across this on the day Stadia died.

just the video I needed! Going to install this on a spare old desktop ontop of Proxmox :) edit; I'll use TrueNAS Scale, because linux ;P

mm, as a NAS, truenas is perfect, speed is awesome (need enough ram), and for almost 6 years I've had 0 stability issue (from Freenas 9 to Truenas 12). I do wish the plugin system were better, but as long as the nas part is good I'm OK with that. Automatically setting shadow copy for windows on smb shares is great too, saved my brother on the server I've installed for him.

I would really be interested in your take on TrueNAS Scale, the Linux based version of this OS.

Thanks for this video. As someone who has struggled with plug-ins and permission issues since upgrading to TrueNAS it's nice to know I'm not alone. Unfortunately most TrueNAS tutorials on KZfaq are hosted by IT professionals who make it look so simple to run that you must be an idiot if you can't get things configured properly.

If you set up striping with hot spare with 2 drives you will loose all data in a drive failure , and best use for the SSD wouild be metadata for faster access. Thanks for the video. I have used KingDian 32gb SSDs for boot drives for several years with no problems, and very inexpensive.

What do you do if they turn off the power?

Petabyte of NAS hentai. Thanks Ryan!

I have had huge problems with Microcenter USB drives. I don’t know whether it’s their drive controllers or flash quality but I gave up on using them as bootable drives years ago. Kingston and Sandisk drives seem to work the best.

Fuck man. I got this in my recommended after literally going through the same exact process earlier this week. Even ordered most likely the same PNY thumb drive.

I've done USBs for FreeNAS in the past, but it's generally not great. I think I had two usb drive failures when using them for boot, although you could do a mirrored boot drive, which is neat. SSD is the way to go though as long as you have the SATA ports to spare. Even a cheapo SSD is solid for a TrueNAS boot volume

Glad to know I'm not the only one who has trouble with permissions for the downloading plugins. Trying to get the Qbittorrent one to play nice made me feel so stupid. Also, November was more than 15 days in the past so not sure what you're on about mate.

I have a bug free time running ZoL (ZFS on Linux) raw - it just has the CLI learning curve

28:42 Dad - Are winning son? Ryan - I seem to be succeeding, day.

I love that the LYSOL WIPES are featured on the shelf....LMAO!

Not gonna lie I'm excited about about a the upcoming Trunas Scale video.

Truenas and freenas are both really stable storage systems. Even after years of use permissions and shares are very complicated and require a lot of trial and error. I have used Plex and syncthing with success in the past, but jails and plugins are very complicated as well, and I am not currently using them, nor have I in about a year. ZFS RaidZ2 can really save you, after about 3 years I had 2 Seagate 5TB 2.5in HDD fail in use (24hrs day ontime) Resilvering has taken 5 days with 20TB used pool so I recommend Z2 just in case, especially if all your hard drives are the same age.