The animal control liquidators also portrays PTSD (Post Traumatic Stess Disorder), both its formation (with the young kid) and its longer term effects (with the older leader fellow). One could even say the leaders insistence on not letting the animals suffer is based on his own experience in Afghanistan. He mentions how his first kill in war was shooting a guy in the stomach - a wound that's notorious in being a slow bleed out death with a lot of suffering. He's so hell bent on making sure the animals do not suffer because he has seen the effects of a long painful death, he knows what hell that would put both the animal and the young kid through. And he isnt gonna let that shit happen agian. Hell the leaders love of vodka, and his instance that the young kid drink it too, is probably his way of numbing the trauma he is currently enduring and has endured. Cant feel the pain if you're constantly drunk. As for the young kid, we see him turn from a lost and bewildered man that couldnt even figure out how to load the gun, into basically a terminator. Much like his older leader, he hasn't quite become an emotionally dead machine (as seen when he encountered the puppies) but it's rather clear that hes on the same path as the leader - just his kills were at Chernobyl and not Afghanistan, but that doesnt matter. A life is a life. And finally, the animal liquidation was toned down for TV. ARS and radiation does the same damage to a cat that it does to a firefighter, and unlike the firefighters, no one decontaminated the animals. Most had open wounds and missing fur. Some couldnt be identified as a cat or dog till it made a noise. And there are stories where there wasnt enough ammunition to kill every animal, and so some were buried alive in concrete. As terrible as those scenes were, they were worse in real life. Chernobyl is known as the worst nuclear disaster for a reason, and it's not because f the raw numbers of released radiation. It's no wonder the liquidators had developed into alcoholics later in life.

I would kill myself before I would even think about shooting an animal

@@ziggyzap1 I hope you are a vegetarian, then.

@@LarS1963 I am not. I wish I could be but I don't have the strength for it. I believe that animals should not be wasted either, so those that are used for food aren't going to waste.

@Brant Hall no, I said I would never kill an animal not eat an animal. I don't believe in wasting what is already dead. It's not my fault it was killed, I said I couldn't do it myself.

@Corey I'm not talking about that. They would have killed it anyway because all animals in the area needed to be killed.

@@Theakker3B I know right, they literally said that all animals, domesticated or wild would have to be killed.

Unless she meant specifically _that_ cow, it's weird hearing that reaction in proportion to thousands of abattoirs in daily use.

@Corey All cows that are "used" for dairy are ending up in the sloutherhouse. Duhh... You think burger for McDonalds is from "special cow rasing for meat"? 90% of beef comes from worn-out dairy cows.

Miłosz Kraweć you mean to tell me that McDonald uses actual meat? :O

One report had an incident where the soldiers on animal control couldn't identify a particular creature by looking at it, until the thing went 'meow'. They killed it out of mercy. But yeah, many of the animals in Chernobyl then were hairless and just skin and bones or covered in tumors. Most life has returned to normal there though, with some creatures flourishing like wolves, squirrels, and catfish (oddly)

@@satsunada well flourishing is a bit of an exaggeration but certainly wildlife is finding a way to survive. for example the birds in the Chernobyl area still show many tumours and deformities, the spiders in the area make weird shaped webs (thought to be due to damage to their DNA which contains a genetic imprint for webs) etc the effects will be felt for centuries not just decades but nature survives

Yes, I think the main reason they're "flourishing" (in some sense) is because there are no people there.

@@demopem definitely. nature will claim everything back when humans go

@@vkdeen7570 flourishing is a good term to use in this case, the Exclusion Zone is one of the best preserved areas in Europe, albeit contaminated...

Gorbachev did that say that what really made the USSR collapse was Chernobyl.

@@lionhead123 and video recorders

@@lionhead123 Well, he needed a good excuse. Especially for the west, so that he could look good. The country was collapsing anyway.

Gorbachev is pretty much the reason why the collapse of the USSR wasn't expressed in nuclear fire. He's been made a pariah in Russia for that. We all owe him a debt.

Thanks for the info, now I know what song to avoid listening to in the future

Чёрный вооорон Что ж ты вьеешся Над моеееею головой?

It's brutal but in a very different way, this one was constant emotional body blows, each one finding a new way to shock you, and not in a cheap way 5 is a steamroller just burying you with the inexorable logic influenced by lies that caused the catastrophe.

Good point

I doubt that. That's a hunter screaming at a novice. Don't let the animal suffer at all. Aim for the heart and snuff it out before they can feel it. Of course the CO knew they would suffer from radiation poisoning but no one there besides scientists knew what the long term affect would be. Only a hunter would have that kind of remorse and determination to do it as correct as that character did. There's still dogs there struggling to survive today that are descendants of dogs that survived the purge.

True cause a documentary those days it’s like 500 to 700 dogs there and their die at usually at 4 years old . But they all big happy soldiers take take of them so in Europe we all have been hurt. Even to those days we find radioactivity fields

There’s a lot in here that’s scientifically inaccurate, but almost all of it is based on things they believed at the time.

it's complete nonsense

Stacey King lol... yeah that came out wrong, I LOVE THE OLD LADY! I was sad her cow got killed in front of her while she was still milking it. 😅😂😭😫 -Kacee

It amazes me every time what goes through as "humanitarian mission". It's disgusting.

@hammertapping lol. no it isn't

Slava Malamud, yes. His blog on everything Soviet is definitely worth checking out.

@@TealJosh If anything contradicts official Soviet BS, it instantly becomes 'false and propagandist', bought and paid for by State Dep or CIA. lol

@hammertapping There are a lot of inaccuracies with the science/disaster itself, but the way they are portrayed, the inaccuracies aren't due to the showrunners lack of knowledge or distortion, but rather because the show was trying to portray how people at the time thought that the situation was even worse than it actually was. There is nothing propagandist about the show. If anything it shows a perfectly neutral view of the Soviets, because yes on the one hand it exposes the bad side of the politics and ideology getting in the way of everything, but on the other hand it does also still show the people of the Soviet union coming together to deal with the disaster in a way that perhaps no western nation would have been able to. So ultimately the show demonstrates the undeniable incompetence of the Soviet administration, but still depicts the Soviet people as heroic and badass. Which is a perfectly reasonable depiction of things.

@hammertapping Wow, 'falsehood', 'overarching narrative'... You're using such big, smart words. Well, here's another couple of words for ya: artistic license. Look it up. 'Chernobyl' is not a documentary, it's a historical drama. Of course, some liberties had to be taken for the story to be told in more dramatic way. But feel free to continue nitpick 'falsehoods in overarching narrative' as much as you want...

there was much worst disaster in couple of years and closer to you. Im talking about Spitak earthquake.

Thanks for sharing, that must have been scary

nope, the best part of any show shouldn't, by any means be the finale, it should be the aftermath of the climax, the quiet resolution that gives the lesson, or the epilogue for every character and event.

Also, she went into labour in July (when she was full term) not January, and their daughter Valentina lived for four days not hours

@@NickCTorres ok spielberg

One of the biggest things I dislike in this show is way how they represented Dyatlov. This show makes him seem like Crazy selfish Idiot. Its damn sad how one youtube video of his last interview had to disable comment section due people were attacking old dying man, only knowing him from Chernobyl series.

I heard it was a puppy that drowned. Thankfully the director cut it. I'm betting if a GOT director was in charge, they would have shown it

Yeah the story as told in "Voices From Chernobyl" was that the hunters had completely run out of ammo and where hoping that suffocation would be a human alternative to, say, beating the thing to death... so they threw the puppy into the pit with the carcasses and began pouring the concrete, but it was so slow that the puppy kept climbing back out and they had to keep pushing it back in until finally it got trapped in the concrete.

@@derbydriver That sounds horrible. I'm glad they cut this as. I've only heard of a scene they cut in episode 1 or 2 where they actually filmed one of the people from the control room about whom Khomjuk said "That man didn't have a face", but then decided to leave it on the cutting room floor and only showed his hands and Khomjuk's reaction, because it would have gone too far and become gratuitous.

@Norbert Sattler They made some really tasteful decisions, I think, as far as what to show/not show. In Episode 2, we see some truly horrifying radiation injuries on Toptunov and Ignatenko. It was hard enough to see that, so when Khomjuk speaks to Akimov and they DON'T show him, and we only see Khomjuk's horrified expression, that's PLENTY powerful and doesn't require actually showing us. It actually makes the show better, in my opinion. I don't think they actually filmed the puppy scene, I can't remember what Craig Mazin said about that for sure but I seem to remember him saying that they decided just from the story boarding that it went too far. We only ever see one injured animal - the dog that Pavel shoots. Editing these scenes the way they did, not actually seeing animals get hurt/killed (even the careful camera placement when the soldier shoots the cow) was very tasteful. They were able to get across the horror without being gratuitous. Horror films could learn a lot from this series.

@@derbydriver It would turn the scene from horror to pure spectacle ... gratuitous as you said. Our imagination is way more powerfull then anything they could have shown..

Thank you so much!

Dos Cavazos - HBO really has a lot of masterclass series. If you haven't seen it yet, Band of Brothers to this day is still ranked top 5 best series made - after nearly 2 decades! Worth a watch!

were they drafted, though? I have no idea! I DO know that @hammertapping needs to stop hammering and stop tapping on the keyboard--(propaganda, propaganda... how much are you paid to troll, seriously?)

@hammertapping yeah, some actual documentary footage was used in the series! so I'm curious, how is it POSSIBLE that you believe that the "show is more propagandist than truthful."? ...because their ARE documentaries from that time!!!

why do you assume that I have NOT read "Voices from Chernobyl"? I honestly do NOT understand you!

@hammertapping I see you throwing the word "propaganda" around... maybe you should stop that?

@hammertapping hahahahahahahahahaha

@@myazaki9946 the only comparison I made was between the fire fighters and dogs medical condition. Although it did not show so in this series the dogs just like the firefighters were in the final stages of radiation poisoning. In no way did I disparage those men’s bravery and self sacrifice for the people of Chernobyl and to claim I did is simply not true.

@@myazaki9946 of course I dont

Technically that's a spoiler as the majority of reactors are excited when they realise what's in the final episode so think next time Jordan.

​@krashd they were thinking. They just didn't care. They wouldn't want it done to them. Yet they do to others.

@@genghisgalahad8465 I’m not a group of people, so cut the ‘they’ shit. Second, I literally just said ‘courtroom drama’. Didn’t reveal plot points or any of that. They were distressed about the animal killings in ep 4 so I reassured them that the series is worth finishing. Calm…your fucking…tits.

FutureMartian97 Don’t see that very often....”vehicle graveyards”. They are huge! So many ... I think I saw some of the 1000 buses in one graveyard.

That thing is still radioactive, probably for centuries to come...

not wierd at all, it's a different kind of sad. With animals it's more of a "they don't know what's happening" as with humans it's more of a meloncholy feeling. Humen emotion isn't that black and white

yea thats how society today. warped by stupid activists. animals always were, are and will be below us. i will never get how there are people who destroy or cripple theyr lifes and their well being for stupid dog or cat. its just throwing away money and time.

@@alibabapirce9782 "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Ghandi A tidbit of wisdom for you when you hit high school and stop torturing stray cats in the back ally

Wel isl understandable when humans are the most destructive hateful and selfish species on the planet

etme1000 - It blows my mind. In this case, I knew to stop watching at “THEY KILLED THE COW?!?!????”

@@myazaki9946 well youre a sick fuck arent you.

@@myazaki9946 i wouldnt burn it alive you sick fuck. Blame the owner not the dog you sick fuck. Youre a sick fuck.

zahrans either way..

Well u can't eat radioactive burgers lol just saying 🙄

Skarsgård

They’re both ridiculously talented (and fun to watch).

Because some of us like animals over people.

And yes, I do realize it was better for the animals this way, but it's still sad to see, especially because they do not know why they are being shot at. And I do wish they would have put the men suffering out of their miseries. But unfortunately, that didn't happen. That doesn't even happen here in the US.

To be fair Americans and geography rarely go well together.

@@krashd It's not geography knowledge which made me smile after they said it, some foreign city names might be difficult to remember at once after all. It's the fact that in previous two episodes they watched evacuation, closing up Prypyat and then setting up 30km exclusion zone as well as they learned the enourmous amound of job which must be done including digging up ground, cutting trees, execution of all animals, etc, to limit the spread of radiation, they still assumed Liudmila was allowed to go back to her apartment (with concierge at working place) and pick up some radioactive stuff :)

@@myazaki9946 no you just feel more empathy towards other humans. These days that is a rare thing. Its easy to empathize with an innocent animal, it hard to empathize with a flawed human.

I've always thought the same, but it's how we humans are. We're completely desensitized when it comes to human suffering. We hear about hundreds of people dying in the news every day to the point that we no longer care. It's only when you really think about it that you realize how disturbing this is, that we've lost our compassion for fellow man to the extent that we care far more about a pet than a hundred humans.

People have always been disturbed by the dipiction of children and animals suffering on tv more than adult humans due to the fact its very often not shown on tv.

Also the animals are being killed intentionally where as the people are not, that is a major psycological difference.

Animals are far more innocent than all humans, humans are protected always before them, it is sick how they are disregarded by a majority of people, it is more sick you should deride the empathy shown here. Even in this worst of human decisions for other human beings in this series, people are still regarded and help than animals.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gp6Fe91oqLS1o6c.html BBC Surviving Disaster - Chernobyl Nuclear Disaster. I liked this one because it was the first show told from the perspective of Valerie Lygasov's character.

Even before this show, a Geiger counter going off is still the scariest sound ever to me

do you understand that you do not understand what you are talking about?

@@evilchipmunk4090 Which part and how?

yep, you still don't know why

I love that show! It's so underrated and such a shame that it's a show that's slept on.

Paul McCartney once said "If slaughterhouses had glass walls everyone would be a vegetarian".

Well maybe because we also need more self empathy and self understanding lol that would help to understand others more

Robby Steinerman agreed. The finale is in my top episodes of any series.

and most BS propagandish one

@@Maks_Morkovkin it takes the most freedoms in that episode, but the "puppet trial" did happen, so not as much propaganda.

@@TealJosh its almost all lie. And this lie - need Hollywood to cover its (USA) own fail in nuclear tech. You don need to beleive me, just use google. Westinghouse bancroupt while Rosatom builds 42 new plants all over the world, 75% of ALL market of Uranium enrichment - Rosatom, even USA buy from they fuel for their Nuclear plants cuz Rosatom has 30% more effective tech. oops serries comes to show you how bad russians are :)) Or Space - while you ate one by one - stupid fantastic novelty from Mask, USA cant lift Astronauts to space for 15 years ... but hey cmon - we look at hollywood and what we see ? Shaldon Cooper jokes about Russia in space, Bruce Whillis fly to space and meet drunk Russian homless on ISS and so on. OFC you understands that is "joke" but you have superstitons clued to your mind. BTW in 2020 USA will not send Astronauts to ISS cuz Russia tell that there is no room at ships for americans. Oops. Weclome to real world. - looks its totalitaristic Soviet union there cant be normal trials... Simple and stupid surepstition. There was. There was an Upgrade for all similar disigned plant and so on. While USA decide if black people real human or not (196x) USSR celebrate 40 years annivesary of REAL equality of all nations (more then 200 in Soviet Union), religions, genders in their rigths. And so on on every item in list of Hollywood propaganda maschine about USSR and today Russia. You eating it step by step for decades...

@@Maks_Morkovkin You guys really need to cool down with the claims you keep making. You have to understand that world has tens of millions of people, maybe even hundreds, who can literally ask their parents about how was it in soviet union. And just like that your claims are debunked. For the record, I'm Finnish with mother's side from East Germany.

Additionally I'd like to add that the people who worked under Dyatlov - the very people who in this show suffered under his temper and tyranny - described him as harsh but utterly fair, even after he was sent to a labour camp, which means that what you'll see in the final episode is almost asuredly an overdamatization to help build up to the big reveal. If the supposed victim freely and under no form of duress says that his supposed tormentor was a fair man, I'm inclined to believe them over a TV show. That's not to say that I dislike the series, on the contrary. It is a great show and amazingly accurate most of the time, but ironically that makes it all the easier to believe that the few mistakes and changes that did sneak in really happened.

I think the HBO series took its inspiration for Dyatlov almost directly from the Zero Hour documentary episode (actually really well done, worth watching): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fNF8i7CfprWUiX0.html Either way, there are multiple accounts of Dyatlov's behavior. His own personal account as portrayed in the book he wrote, workers that were in the control room that night, workers that had worked with him on other nights, etc. He's described as everything from "hard but far" to "not respected by anyone because he rejected reasonable requests if it meant he had to do extra work". He DID lie about where he was when the reactor exploded (he actually did say he was on the toilet). He wasn't a good man and his arrogance was a major contributing factor... but as far as him being completely irrational the way he was portrayed in the show, that definitely seems like an embellishment according to most believable accounts. I think the show is an incredible piece of work, it's one of my favorites of all time even if it plays with the facts... but it typically stays close enough to the truth that it doesn't bother me. Legasov is portrayed as virtually an entirely different character than he was in real life, but the real life version wouldn't make for good TV. The message behind the show is what's the most important - how lies compound each other and can lead to costing innocent lives.