What's the difference between 1000 and 2200?

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5 ай бұрын

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@CorneredChess 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for inviting me to play Nelson, I had great fun!

@marioprogamer12345 5 ай бұрын

gg I’m also 900 lol

@reshadeditz 5 ай бұрын

lol

@flpsnk4848 5 ай бұрын

Pretty good thought process most of the time, apart from that g3 move, I like the game. This was at least 1300 performace Id say, good job.

@zzzaphod8507 5 ай бұрын

Brave to play against Nelson publicly, and well done despite the loss

@arassemiaktas8075 5 ай бұрын

dude you are jacked

@b005t3r 5 ай бұрын

The difference is 1200 elo. Thank you.

@juliusballerda4654 Ай бұрын

wtf🤣

@Michi_owo-VLLC Ай бұрын

@@juliusballerda4654 Very assertant

@precisi0n86 27 күн бұрын

Very precise

@lukasjetu9776 19 сағат бұрын

Objection!!! i did the maths and it's actually a difference of 1287 elo

@exuviumisopods 5 ай бұрын

Two times he could move his knight, improving it by also capturing material.... And he didn't. It's strange that I am able to see other player's blunders, but not seeing mine! 😁

@darkdolphin8310 4 ай бұрын

And the funny thing is they can see your blunders while not figuring theirs

@ruimdsilvac 4 ай бұрын

@@darkdolphin8310 yesterday I did a 61 move game that ended up in repetition draw in my favor because I had thrown the game, when I did the review I saw I missed a move really early at like 17 i think, that I had a move to fork the queen and king and that would turn the entire game to me... Tunnel Vision is really a bad thing in this game xD

@Laryon720 4 ай бұрын

because its not your game so you are not hyper focus on the direct menace and can focus on the overall match instead

@bofetada6841 3 ай бұрын

The same thing is true about life and relationships. It's difficult to see our blind spots

@exuviumisopods 3 ай бұрын

@@bofetada6841 correct. And in the same train of thought,we care more about judging others, than observing ourselves and being mindful and aware of how we choose to react in various circumstances.

@arrowofkira5658 5 ай бұрын

All these collabs with those different personalities is so cool and wholesome, i really hope this stays a consistant part of his content for the future.

@sepfms 4 ай бұрын

Yes, great format to watch both sides thinking and playing!

@namansinghal102 5 ай бұрын

Answer is 1200 elo

@KierzaReal Ай бұрын

Good at math

@svengessner3561 5 ай бұрын

Thank you Nelson. I think you’ve invented a new format and it works. Listening to both players thinking through the moves makes it even more exiting then a speed run.m. Just great to watch. As far as I can tell you’ve changed the editing a bit so that your thought process doesn’t give away to much of the tension of the game, Because we are listening to your opponents first. Keep it up!

@executivelifehacks6747 5 ай бұрын

Indeed, I have never seen this format anywhere else. I really like Nelson's understated approach too. It will catch on and I bet Gotham picks it up. I can really relate to the 900 odd level player as I have been there recently and as an 1100 or so I can see a few things I've learnt that make a difference. For example considering when putting a piece in a position to trade, what am I going to be exchanging with and does it worsen my position? If so, don't invite that. It all stems from internalising Igor Smirnov's "To take is a mistake" dictum, at least for me. I am quite impressed at his positional understanding however. He considers what his better pieces are. I think he needs to grind more puzzles and his opening knowledge could be improved?

@duraisingamvelu 2 ай бұрын

Ofcourse this is good I agree ! Interesting rather than I having to just think on myself in 2 seconds .

@stealthgenetix1754 2 ай бұрын

I found this very valuable.

@user-jl9el3ks8u 5 ай бұрын

Keep this series up, we need more of these videos

@RealityCheck1 5 ай бұрын

Key difference is Nelson thinks longer before deciding on a move but his moves does more than just attack or defend. He would position his pieces on good squares that would squeeze the 1000 rated player.

@joannewilson6577 5 ай бұрын

Not only that but Nelson develop all his pieces a lot faster and he doesn't play very bad move like g3....that was a super weak move that only a beginner would do. So that was two rookie major mistakes.

@RandomGuyOnYoutube601 5 ай бұрын

He still played badly. "I don't like Nf6 becouse the bishop would pin me". Like wtf? Nf6 Bg5 dxe4 and black is winning? Not even calculating one move and rejecting Nf6 outright.

@colecube8251 4 ай бұрын

@@RandomGuyOnKZfaq601bro thinks he's better than a national master ☠️☠️☠️

@RandomGuyOnYoutube601 4 ай бұрын

@@colecube8251 I have 2200 FIDE rating bro

@frogufo 2 ай бұрын

@@colecube8251 he might be I mean I'm a Im and im better than him

@jarchdm 5 ай бұрын

Out of all the chess channels i have learned the most from yours. Your calm analysis of the positions and your willingness to say i don't know what comes next I'll just play principles of solid chess is inspirational. Thank you

@TheDa6781 5 ай бұрын

Naroditsky is also very good

@DanLyndon Ай бұрын

He isn't playing according to solid chess principles. He's playing passively and ignoring good strategy, not recognising the problems with the opponent's position or opportunities within his own. I think it's just that it's difficult to take advantage of what he's doing tactically.

@cody3620 5 ай бұрын

Keep this format going! I would also like to see the post game conversation between you and your opponent as you discuss the game review. Think it would be instructive to see how you both reflect on the key moments of the game.

@codekeeper32 5 ай бұрын

I really like these types of videos. Getting perspective from both sides of the board and at differing skill levels is very interesting and informative.

@davidatkinson2282 5 ай бұрын

Thank you both, a very instructive tutorial and easy to follow. More please. You both have such a good way of presenting the options on the available moves. Most enjoyable.

@dtrinla 11 күн бұрын

I really enjoyed this one with Nelson. It was a perfect counterpoint to what I have learned from your multiple games with lesser players. Thanks to you both.

@basteala525 5 ай бұрын

This was a really helpful video. Seeing the advanced vs intermediate perspective, seeing what each think about, and the habit to backseat drive like "no, no, you should be thinking about THIS!"...and then realizing I make those same mistakes...it's very informative in an entertaining package. You both taught me a lot today. Thank you.

@fernanmartinez1699 5 ай бұрын

Great game! Love this format. Hope you keep doing these vids for us

@olivernordin 5 ай бұрын

very instructuable

@RealityCheck1 5 ай бұрын

Nelson is top-notch when it comes to chess tutorials.

@mugishapopoo5648 5 ай бұрын

U should see Eric Rosen...u will never see a calm and clear explanations better than his

@wokencs330 5 ай бұрын

Rosen is a better player but his tutorials aren’t as good as Nelson imo and this is coming from someone who’s a massive Rosen fan and has studied theory from his videos

@DM-lx4yu 5 ай бұрын

I enjoyed this format! thanks guys

@ForeverHuffsLiving 2 ай бұрын

Outstanding!! I thoroughly enjoyed watching this and seeing the thought process of both sides. Keep it up please.

@markb-vj8ir 2 ай бұрын

These are amazing tutorials. Thanks so much for making. Please keep them coming!

@sgarnev9776 5 ай бұрын

Dude, his board is much higher quality, Nelson please look into how he records the board, it is higher resolution.

@NF30 5 ай бұрын

Looks like he's playing on a Mac with a high-density display, judging by the font of the numbers on his screen

@maksim3663 5 ай бұрын

there's always a downside: it's chess, basically we need two colors to understand how the game goes😅

@imran_rasoli 2 ай бұрын

I really loved this type of videos! Wow AMAZING! more of these videos please! I'll be now heading to the video where yall talk about this game.

@untartelette7545 5 ай бұрын

Love this series. Haven't seen this concept on another chess canal. Subscribed.

@PaulvanAarle-tw9ib 2 ай бұрын

This is so interesting to watch! Seeing both thought processes on the same situation. Funny how different you can see things from one side of the board or the other.

@vishy Ай бұрын

That was awesome … really enjoyed watching that and learnt a lot. Please make more vids like this

@THEFEZFEZ 5 ай бұрын

Love this series, keep it coming!

@danielarens8072 5 ай бұрын

Total abandonment of the king mid game is an interesting tactic

@dead_unicorn6074 24 күн бұрын

Me watching it as 400 elo😂

@tatahi_williams 11 күн бұрын

You and me both😂😂

@jayilluminatti 5 күн бұрын

Same loool

@jedrzejkraszpulski442 5 ай бұрын

These collabs have been very cool!

@user-cv1yn3gq5d 5 ай бұрын

This is great. Please do more of this kind of games.

@LightHolmes 5 ай бұрын

highly educational series, love it

@felipeperez7525 5 ай бұрын

This is what I have been looking for!! Thanks guys!!

@vimaladevishanmugam5943 5 ай бұрын

I had a lot new idea dur to this video , thx Nelson!

@TarverKing 2 ай бұрын

This is by far the best chess channel on KZfaq. Thank you so much!!

@TheRealAyeGee 5 ай бұрын

love your videos nelson

@josefj7570 5 ай бұрын

This is a great video. Do more of these if you feel up to it Nelson! Especially for the people who are low elo :)

@frankmuldowney7839 3 ай бұрын

Well, that was more informative than a class.... I learned more from that game than any. I thank both players for explaining what they are doing and being honest about it. Thank you both.

@jamesgowing3856 5 ай бұрын

He did get cornered in the end. So well named 😂

@ishpreetwarrior8845 4 ай бұрын

You're really straight forward that makes you different from gotham chess and etc.

@hreedwork 4 ай бұрын

Very useful instructional format, and great content 😎

@GrimeyInc81 2 ай бұрын

That was actually really entertaining. Good job fellas😊

@OnRappel 2 ай бұрын

100% the most insightful chess video I've seen. I could watch these everyday!!

@DanLyndon Ай бұрын

Tbh there were some bad moves on both sides (see my comment on the bad d5 black played in the beginning, which is silly for a master to play). I will say that a great channel for chess insight is Chess Wisdom.

@SoccerinMN 4 ай бұрын

This is a superb video, very good idea to do a two-sided. As a ver y dumb person it took 5 mins or so to get in the groove of following the back and forth but fascinating to see you both talk through what the other person's options are. Just finished and it got even better. What an insight into the human perspective. At the 42-minute mark, the English dude is focused on the Bishop/Castle thing in the corner and the other guy doesn't even consider it part of the game. Very interesting stuff.

@tylerbruce3189 26 күн бұрын

How do you highlight with arrows while playing to see the lines like that?

@karriemshabazz7407 2 ай бұрын

I Enjoyed That, I Would like to See More. Very Instructive to Follow along.

@user-qu4pg4jj7n 4 ай бұрын

Hey cool series thanks for making these

@googleevil9553 5 ай бұрын

What a great analysis video, better than other channels imo.

@rmendeljacobs2832 5 ай бұрын

this is an absolutely fantastic way to teach chess!!!! great job nelson

@greamespens1460 5 ай бұрын

Really enjoying these

@perholm5853 2 ай бұрын

Any link to the recap video ? Was really fun setup !! Wish there were more of these of different elos :)

@Ghostt-117 5 ай бұрын

This is awesome, very helpful insight

@emmanuellaurens2132 5 ай бұрын

2:41 So far I've heard black musing 'I think c3 is a move but I can't remember the line' and black musing 'I don't remember the lines but I think c3 is a move let's play that'. My take: 1000 or 2200, no difference, they don't really know their openings past the third move yet :)

@GenghisKhan16 5 ай бұрын

But will grind u in the middle game and win easily

@MrZZtop86 5 ай бұрын

at the end is there Rf4 and bringing the h pawn for checkmate?

@TromboneAl 3 ай бұрын

I can't find the link to the game review. Anyone? Thanks.

@RadishAcceptable 5 ай бұрын

Very good content! Loved this. He did manage to feel out his own mistakes, but wasn't able to actually calculate it all. That's the difference in skill here, in a nutshell. Gotta work on those tactics!

@dauzonypon4514 4 ай бұрын

Vry instructive game Sir.i want Hope u can upload more videos like this .Your fan from Philippines

@kingtrill7070 4 ай бұрын

Wow what a creative video! Never had this much fun learning haha

@chadwaronicki8231 Ай бұрын

THis was super cool. WIsh more chess streamers did stuff like this. Excellent content

@kianushmaleki Ай бұрын

Very interesting video. Very instructive. Please more

@davidhume6275 10 күн бұрын

Excellent format for a chess video! Bravo

@AudiFreakize 4 ай бұрын

I love this concept. No training video shows more the different ways of thinking 🎉 its rly varied 😁

@nathandeleau5100 5 ай бұрын

Yo that was fun to watch, can we get more vids like that?

@arentorjamir4545 5 ай бұрын

The white knight never moved. Hence 1000 elo.

@rjohnson615 5 ай бұрын

Great Nelson!! Tyvm!

@unechainevideo 5 ай бұрын

Good video ! Well done

@SkateAwayTheDay 2 ай бұрын

Great idea and video. Lil suggestion - If there was another player that was even more advanced like 2500 reflecting over both your games, I think that would add a little more value to this.

@krispe2512 5 ай бұрын

yes! the series i was hoping for. :)

@fathalighasemian7832 5 ай бұрын

This type of videos are so informative.i really learn and enjoy from your calculations. Thank you very much 🙏🙏

@Blu858 4 ай бұрын

Yes

@Blu858 4 ай бұрын

Yes

@Blu858 4 ай бұрын

Yes

@matthewping6132 5 ай бұрын

Good stuff. I'm a bit surprised that Cornered didn't automatically assume he was doomed if he took the rook , otherwise I would happily accept playing Nelson so evenly for so deep into the match.

@manuelfuentes4509 5 ай бұрын

How can I play you, Nelson in this format?

@maksim3663 5 ай бұрын

great video, and very instructive. and with analysis like this @CorneredChess will leave elo level 1000 way behind very soon

@R0dman91 5 ай бұрын

He pretty much got cornered.

@adventureboy444 5 ай бұрын

CorneredChess could have gotten close to Nelson's level if he knew that moving f2, g2 or h2 is bad

@hugovaz777 5 ай бұрын

The difference is nelsi is constantly thinking attack and how to develop while defending whereas 1000 elo is stuck on one threat moves at defending pieces by moving them without developing other pieces while simultaneously defending. Also not recognizing dangerous threats is a common mistake that many of us have. Ty for sharing

@SparkyForce 5 ай бұрын

Also scared of tension. They only let pieces stare at each other for a few moves before getting the urge to trade them off for basically no reason. I am also 1000 so I see it all the time haha

@johnnyschannel9094 5 ай бұрын

Love the concept !! And you look like Tom hardy. Great video. 🎉

@dentaldave324 Ай бұрын

At what elo should I start memorizing or at least quickly denoting the board positions (E6, B1, etc) because I’m at 600 elo right now (I know I’m a complete noob) but I wanted to generally know where I should be prioritizing my study of the game at my rock bottom elo. I figure I should probably just focus on the fundamentals and basics like proper opening tactics, learn to develop and castle early? Thanks for the help Nelson, love the videos!

@DeZomer35 5 ай бұрын

Bro I was here when you had like 100k followers, been out for some time. Half mill? Congrats man

@dbronx347 11 күн бұрын

I feel CorneredChess was playing at much much higher level than 992. I think Nelson brought out the best in him.

@sajiljhaveri7363 5 ай бұрын

Please make a video explaining what are inaccuracies and how to avoid them.

@venkatakiritimunganuru601 2 ай бұрын

This is how chess need to be taught. Great game folks.

@WaranaSJ 4 ай бұрын

im a 900 elo, the difference is i dont think, if it looks good i play it lol

@JillisMusicChannel 29 күн бұрын

I realise I do that also haha. 😅

@victormutunga2944 2 ай бұрын

Forget chess development, cornered got that chest development

@carlosbettmann3571 5 ай бұрын

For those whos wondering what the main differentes are: 1000 uses standard design, 2200 old design.

@craneoperatorkorenamir 2 ай бұрын

thanks learned a lot also smart way to understand the game on the critical sec

@VishvjeetVishvjeet-hs5ph 2 ай бұрын

White Bishop on a3 was such a big blunder losing the bishop on two move.

@paulandrew2518 5 ай бұрын

The early move of defending the knight with a pawn istead of using bishop to defend and devolop was a big issue. It blocked a developing sqaure for his other knight which became continual discussion.

@mylove1618 5 ай бұрын

Cool perspective from both sides

@rorywade590 3 ай бұрын

I am new to the game and I enjoy your program but I find it hard to focus when the b oard VIEW keeps changing sides.

@TheChessNutPrince 5 ай бұрын

How does one get into these videos? I assume they r students that paid for coaching

@NJDJ1986 5 ай бұрын

@25:38 oooof! pawn g3 move is the most 990 elo thing that was ever done! no 2000 elo player or higher would decide to play g3!

@RedwanurRahaman-cv9mr 5 ай бұрын

Yeah I am 1800 and I was thinking to trade the bishops not the pawn push.

@SoDamnMetal 5 ай бұрын

I'm 2200 and there is definitely merit to voluntarily open up the g file to slide your rook over

@8964TS 5 ай бұрын

Not in that position with the bishop pair staring at you in the corner, the knight on g6 ready to jump in and both queen and rook lurking behind the lines. That’s a terrible time to be opening yourself up like that.

@russellholloway7465 3 ай бұрын

Great videos , how about ame vs Alex banzea , Gotham, alessia or Anna cramling to see how the higher levels think against each other ?

@TimSchmelter 11 күн бұрын

CorneredChess really didnt play like 1000 Elo until he played G3. But in general his thoughts were not like a beginner. He had a plan, looked for tactics and knew about the weakness of pawn structures, until G3 😅 Well played!

@JasonRobertsMobi Ай бұрын

Hat off to you both! Fun way to learn. When I sacrifice, the computer calls it a blunder or a mistake even when i win. Lol 😅

@sweetblueberrypie 3 ай бұрын

This was a great watch

@warmongerfenrir8524 Ай бұрын

Great video!

@viktorvondoom9119 5 ай бұрын

Good format. For education, I think watching just your side is more useful. This is because watching your opponent's side does not really provide a lot of *new* insights when you are around the same elo level as them. But also including them in the video is entertaining though. So for entertainment, you could include your opponent's side as well. Not meant to hate on CorneredChess, just feedback on the format. Big shout out to him for participating :)

@courtneymcspadden-hw1sr 3 ай бұрын

Great lesson

@FirstLast-is9xe 3 ай бұрын

Where is the follow-up discussion? I see no link! Please add. Always.

@FirstLast-is9xe 3 ай бұрын

Found it, cannot delete my posting - sorry

@sofiandaghsen343 13 күн бұрын

I think there was a better move for black, preparing for a checkmate with white bishop and knight instead of the quick check with the knight (by advancing the pawn in the middle). And I think this sould have been very hard to defend against. It was a great game to learn from anyway ! , thanks