While at War - Nationalists occupy Salamanca (Spanish coup of July 1936)

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While at War (Spanish: Mientras dure la guerra) is a 2019 Spanish historical drama film directed by Alejandro Amenábar. It premiered at the 2019 Toronto International Film Festival.
July 17, 1936
Army uprising in Morocco. Military uprising of the Spanish Legion in Morocco. General Manuel Romerales, commanding officer of the East Army, is murdered by rebels, who also imprisoned commanding General Gomez in the late afternoon. Loyal police troops from the Guardia Civil and Guardia de Asalto hold the cities Tetouan and Larache, but come under heavy attack by the rebels. General Franco orders the killing of his own nephew, a major in Tétouan, for staying loyal to the government.
By late evening, all of Morocco is in the hands of the rebels. From the Canary Islands, Franco declares a "state of war" for all of Spain. Prime Minister Santiago Casares Quiroga spends the whole day telephoning different regional military administrations to clarify the situation. Pamplona, Zaragoza, Oviedo, Salamanca, Ávila, Segovia, and Cádiz are already in rebel hands.

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@dinocabrijan5745 3 жыл бұрын

Spanish civil war starts, here come XP points in HOI4.

@mateonogameplays2395 3 жыл бұрын

Testing your new l6 agaisnt those reds in Madrid

@calvin5541 3 жыл бұрын

How did I know this would be the top comment

@thereal1719 3 жыл бұрын

Easy XP points 🤭

@DaSniper406 3 жыл бұрын

Let me send two volunteers to nationalist spain

@TheAmericanCatholic 3 жыл бұрын

Dino Čabrijan When is the American edition of the Spain I shall civil war going to start

@Marhakon 3 жыл бұрын

A yes the Spanish civil war reenacted in the comments.

@fds7476 3 жыл бұрын

Ooooooh! I'll be the Ernst Thälmann Battalion! Who do you want to be?

@ruckzuruck7039 3 жыл бұрын

@@fds7476 I'll be George Orwell recovering from a bullet to the neck as the POUM are purged!

@ProjectEkerTest33 3 жыл бұрын

Dibs on the Carlists. Time to restore the monarchy!

@ProjectEkerTest33 3 жыл бұрын

@dadsads asdads Certainly. Maybe in return Latin-America can stop exporting their drugs to everywhere else.

@ProjectEkerTest33 3 жыл бұрын

@dadsads asdads By that logic if Latin-Americans stopped buying the guns then the arms dealing would already be over. You can't blame the USA for the arms dealing and not accept the blame for the drugs smuggling.

@mr.markofski4267 3 жыл бұрын

“You’re under arrest” “Understandable, have a great day”

@scottanos9981 2 жыл бұрын

Aight imma head out

@kamilksiazek8019 2 жыл бұрын

No problem at all :D

@arnoltortega560 Ай бұрын

Que agradable sujeto🙂

@jumpjimcrow6959 3 жыл бұрын

Royalists to Franco after his victory: 'We helped you. So, do you wanna restore monarchy?' Franco: 'Yes, yes but actually No'.

@weqweqkweq7264 3 жыл бұрын

Spain has a King now so

@crotoes 3 жыл бұрын

@@weqweqkweq7264 40 years after, without franco actually... >XD

@enekolb9717 3 жыл бұрын

That's not. Franco putted a King after this war

@KaelVidos20 3 жыл бұрын

after his death

@DarkosIV 3 жыл бұрын

Franco puso al rey cuando murió, arriba el rey

@tommyfred6180 3 жыл бұрын

the Spanish civil war gets about two lines in British school history books. yet it was one of five or six of the most important things that happened in Europe between the wars. Spain's position in ww2 also had a significant impact on the way ww2 unfolded. yet its an almost completely forgotten bit of history.

@LegendaryKazooMann1936 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agreed! Its so unfortunate how little its discussed in history books and such. Im lucky to have become interested in it on my own time. There is SO much we can learn from it and so many historical parallels between it and modern day here in the USA.

@Tutel0093 3 жыл бұрын

Spanish Civil War its still a thing at Spain. Not so many months ago Franco was still buried in a fascist temple.

@miguelfc3917 3 жыл бұрын

@@Tutel0093 that fascist temple you call is a monument for the victims of the war

@LegendaryKazooMann1936 3 жыл бұрын

@Mo no My thoughts? By perellels I mean we have increased division, polarization and violence on both sides. If there is a Civil War it will be ideological instead of just North vs South like in our previous Civil War. I suspect it will be more like the Spanish one. But I think this election will tell the tale. I am also worried about the future of our Democracy.

@LegendaryKazooMann1936 3 жыл бұрын

@Mo no What do you mean by "Socialism"? I certainly don't like the authoritarian path of many self proclaimed "Communist" or "Socalist" nations. However there many other nations that have things some would call "Socialist" that I like. For instance the superior healthcare in many of the Nordic countries that have Social ideas mixed with Democracy. Which is good because there should always be a fair democracy. We need a positive change here. The poor get poorer and the rich get richer. I was personally a fan of Bernie Sanders. What were your thoughts on him?

@bielaparisiu8755 3 жыл бұрын

My grandfather was born in Salamanca three months before the Civil War erupted. This is probably something that my great grandparents saw with their own eyes

@mapachestudios5993 3 жыл бұрын

No, de hecho ni se parece. Es una película. Cada vez que gobierna el PSOE salen como las ratas y expolian a la gente de bien. Son la peste y nadie los quiere. Así se tiran años de 10 en 10 intentando gobernar, cada vez que llegan arruinan el país. A saber si hay fraude, nadie controla quién se empadrona. Ojalá nos echen de la UE de una maldita vez y la gente se dé cuenta. Espero que las elecciones no sean tan buenas ni tan seguras como la sanidad.

@mapachestudios5993 3 жыл бұрын

Republicanos? Eran el PSOE.

@fredav2028 3 жыл бұрын

@@mapachestudios5993 Hahah, hay que ver las sandeces que se tienen que leer en KZfaq. Típico discurso de facha renegado, votante de Vox que no tiene ni puta idea de la historia de España. Más políticos como Manuel Azaña o Felipe González necesita este país y menos fascistas y anarquistas que cada dos por tres han estado tocando los cojones. Así va España, siendo el hazmerreír de Europa.

@volcan9995 3 жыл бұрын

@@fredav2028 entiendo que seas socialista o comunista pero lo que prometen nunca llega a ser verdad es un sistema que nunca podrá funcionar por mucho que lo intenten

@Clocks171 3 жыл бұрын

@@volcan9995 si pero también el comunismo no puede funcionar tan poco

@tiagorodrigues179 Жыл бұрын

It's very strange that the Spanish Civil War isn't very discussed among the schools, this event was extremely important on how ww2 rolled out, it was the "Demo" version of ww2 since both the Germans and soviets used it to test their new equipment and develop new tactics.

@user-bh9ux5ik6h Жыл бұрын

@alexanderrosales7675 Жыл бұрын

Why would we ?Franco collaborated with the Nazis that is unforgivable.

@europaprimum7050 11 ай бұрын

@@alexanderrosales7675 So did Finland do you hate them too?

@sagnikjana8789 11 ай бұрын

Ya it's often referred to as "the dress rehearsal of ww2".

@julienvalley28 11 ай бұрын

I don't think it was exactly a demo version in accordance with either side testing out their tactics, but I do think it was definitely a sort of "trailer" and a warning of what was to come, especially with the mass destruction displayed throughout the war such as that seen in Guernica

@Lalo_XVII 3 жыл бұрын

*Republican Spanish IA when player is not a democratic or communist country*: ah shit, here we go again

@RexalQel 3 жыл бұрын

HOI4 reference? :D

@John_pojohn 3 жыл бұрын

@@RexalQel what does it mean? I’m spanish and i’m confused 😂

@mark9152 3 жыл бұрын

@@John_pojohn In the game called Hearts of Iron IV aka HOI4, when the Spanish civil war starts, fascists countries like Germany and Italy send volunteer divisions to Franco while communist countries like the USSR send volunteers to the Republicans. Usually when a player-led country sends volunteer divisions, whoever they send them to, would win because usually, a veteran player, is smarter than the game A.I.. Based on my observations, players tend to stay or convert their nations to fascism because in the game, fascist countries are usually more militaristic in nature and thus give the players easier time to conquer the whole world if they so desire. So the Republican Spanish A.I. always get stomped because a fascist player-led nation would usually send division to gain army experience to improve their armies.

@valkorion988 3 жыл бұрын

1:29 Españoles in a Nutsheel

@alejandroblanco1251 3 жыл бұрын

Soy español y si

@guillegui6487 3 жыл бұрын

Sad as fuck. Estamos condenados a la mierda bailemos juntos

@agege04 3 жыл бұрын

@César Correa noooo cesar

@edubvb5193 3 жыл бұрын

@César Correa yo me inclino por el antifascismo

@Roberto-rf5sc 3 жыл бұрын

Viva España

@Nathan-jh1ho 3 жыл бұрын

They were just announcing the strict social distancing regulations

@Drkon6 3 жыл бұрын

You do realize this scene is about a Spanish right wing coup against a moderate left wing government right? This is basically a more professional and coordinated version of the capitol riots. Comparing pandemic regulations to genocide is unironically actually the most snowflake shit ever.

@Nathan-jh1ho 3 жыл бұрын

@@Drkon6 If you think bunch of nuts storming in the capitol hill is the same as a well organized military overthrow of the government all across the country I don't know what to say to you.

@dommond887 3 жыл бұрын

@@Nathan-jh1ho no, the nationalist plan was to use small uprising in spain in the big cities and wait til the army of Africa arrived in mainland Spain to put order

@Nathan-jh1ho 3 жыл бұрын

@@dommond887 yes, you just described a well organized military overthrow of government. It wasn't a spontaneous civilian uprising.

@Postaldude505 3 жыл бұрын

@@Drkon6 the only one being a snowflake is your bitch ass

@delavalmilker 2 жыл бұрын

The Spanish Civil War of 1936-1939 is barely mentioned---if at all--in American high school history classes. Yet it was THE epochal event of the 1930's. It was the prelude to World War II. And presaged much of what made WWII so destructive. The use of air power, mobile armor, the involvement of non-combatants, the intervention of foreign countries, and the ideological fanaticism.

@zmajodnocaja5088 2 жыл бұрын

What is 'fanaticism'? When you don't like an ideology, so you call its adherents fanatics? Why are American soldiers who bravely defied the Japanese at Pearl Harbor never described as fanatics, but the Japanese soldiers who were willing to fight until the end were regularly described as fanatics? It's just b.s.

@tannenberg5972 2 жыл бұрын

"THE epochal event of the 1930s." Laughs in German

@andresmora5192 Жыл бұрын

America is a continent, not a country.

@revolverocelot8106 Жыл бұрын

@@zmajodnocaja5088 when you are willing to kill someone to impose your ideals yeah I would call those fanatics

@georgeprchal3924 11 ай бұрын

Well people can read a book sometime or maybe watch one on the hundreds of documentaries on the issue.

@mohandisjuhraoui9626 2 жыл бұрын

I come from the Rif region in Northern Morocco. We were occupied by Spain after the Rif war (1921-1927). Later many Rifians served in the Spanish Civil War on Franco's side and among them some of my ancestors. This is a very interesting part of our history.

@mohandisjuhraoui9626 2 жыл бұрын

Most of them joined Franco either because they had no choice as we were living under occupation or because they were so poor that they needed to join to have a salary.

@mohandisjuhraoui9626 2 жыл бұрын

Franco recruited many rifians by force to fight with him. The irony is that those rifians who joined him were very often the sons or little brothers of men who fought Franco in the Rif war. History is very tragic.

@larrymccoy5394 2 жыл бұрын

@@mohandisjuhraoui9626 The riff soldiers were excelent soldiers and loved everyone Franco. They believe that Franco had Baraka, the protection of gods or spirits, because during colonial wars Franco always saved his life more than 20 times. Franco was the youngest General in Europe with only 30 years.

@bnap3221 2 жыл бұрын

@@mohandisjuhraoui9626 reporte for racism against Spaniards

@mohandisjuhraoui9626 2 жыл бұрын

@@larrymccoy5394 yes many rifians soldiers respected Franco for his bravery in combat.

@jakethesnake3593 2 жыл бұрын

My great grandfather was an Italian volunteer who fought for the nationalists.

@cyrilkhram6338 2 жыл бұрын

God saves his brave soul!

@zmajodnocaja5088 2 жыл бұрын

Respect! I would have done the same.

@JoseGarcia-xf5gk 2 жыл бұрын

@@havenspringer The Republic were traitors to the monarchy.✝️🇪🇸👑

@Pocko213 2 жыл бұрын

Based.

@necivilahomoj5911 2 жыл бұрын

@@Amoore-vv9wx A monarchy that was incompetent and gave stagnation to Spain's progression. While the Republic of France and the British Parliament system ushered decades of cultural and scientific progress, Spain was rotten together with it's unbalanced monarch dragged into endless poverty, while the anglois-francophie population was reaping the benefits of the industrial revolution, Spain was not.

@RCChristian1980 3 жыл бұрын

I like how you can see the medallion honoring King Juan Carlos and Queen Sofía behind the guy with the bullhorn. LOL.

@adankmeme651 3 жыл бұрын

Pov: you and the class laughed at the class clown's joke but the teacher is sending him to detention: 2:29

@tatotaytoman5934 2 жыл бұрын

It really do be like that

@adankmeme651 2 жыл бұрын

@@tatotaytoman5934 ye

@Bikavin 2 жыл бұрын

@@adankmeme651 the woman:the clown girlfriend who enjoy the jokes

@adankmeme651 2 жыл бұрын

@@Bikavin ye

@slayride136 Жыл бұрын

relatable

@AradSP Жыл бұрын

I like the exchange at 1:23 between the two men. The one wearing a suit - the rather old fashioned one - is cheering the coup. The other man, dressed in a more modern way, looking like an artist, is protesting. Great details!

@AradSP Жыл бұрын

@@ay8921 yup

@stoggafllik Жыл бұрын

@A Y >inb4 triggered libtards

@bigguy3636 11 ай бұрын

By that standards... Ngl the "modern way" kinda sucks And would've been a plothole considering they somehow lost the war even with popular support + so called "modern way"

@bottomtext 10 ай бұрын

The man in the suit belongs to the upper class while the other man is dressed like a worker

@AradSP 10 ай бұрын

@@bottomtext Doesn't seem like a worker, but rather an artist/poet/etc. He's too old and fat to be a manual worker, and his clothing and accessories (beret, leather courier bag) are clearly the styles of the bohemians of the 30s. The man wearing the suit isn't necessarily upper class but just a bourgeoisie

@inherentnature5938 3 жыл бұрын

“Also, anyone not wearing a mask...”

@AdrianDeer 3 жыл бұрын

@Im gay since im replying to your comment but Sorry to break it to you, but the mask is useless for YOUR protection. I just keeps your spit on your mouth. And causes your blood to sour from the high CO2 intake. But no.. it can not protect you from a virus. That is why there is hazard suits for it.

@mordapl1641 3 жыл бұрын

Just put on the mask Karen

@AdrianDeer 3 жыл бұрын

@@mordapl1641 You do know that defending your liberties and way of life isnt a Karen thing right? Shut up and eat shit, is the new deal these days? No thank you.

@AdrianDeer 3 жыл бұрын

@Im gay since im replying to your comment but but the goverment for sure can right? That is why you just give up your liberties for some irrational feeling if safety. Those who trade liberty for safety deserve neither and will eventually be slaves.

@dallasschwalger1963 3 жыл бұрын

looks like people can’t follow the rules which cause the situation to take longer

@miketemple7686 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the closed captioned. Now I can share.

@unknownhandyman6821 3 жыл бұрын

"You'll be considered rebels". The irony.

@unknownhandyman6821 3 жыл бұрын

@@blacksnow142 No. The nationalists rebeled against the Republic by doing a Couple d'etat.

@aw299 3 жыл бұрын

No irony if you read about what led up to the coup. The rebels were the leftist parties in the coalition government.They went too far and burned their fingers and got their arses kicked.Karma.

@ESPARTACO1731 3 жыл бұрын

@@blacksnow142 dont the real rebels was the military wjith Franci, the nacionalits. They male a "goloe de estado" agains the elected goverment... but the ine who wins the war is the one who write the history

@marneus 3 жыл бұрын

@@unknownhandyman6821 The Republic had been imposed in Coup as well. Using local elections as excuse. Elections that the only won in a couple of cities.

@unknownhandyman6821 3 жыл бұрын

@@marneus Really? Give me some proof then. It will surely teach us about an Interesting topic. If it is true, of course.

@IsaiahRichards692 2 жыл бұрын

I like the Spanish Civil War because of the message it sends: It doesn’t matter if people think you’re good or evil. If you’re better at governing, have a more disciplined army, and a clear goal in mind, you will win. If you claim to be fighting for Democracy, but your army is poorly supplied, lacking a clear objective, and is full of foreign levies that can’t even speak Spanish, you’re doomed to fail!

@XanderVJ 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say the Republican side was "full of levies who couldn't even speak Spanish". The national brigades were noteworthy due to how ideologically motivated they were (and because some famous anglosphere people fought in them), not because they were a substantial part of the army. You're right about the rest, though.

@zmajodnocaja5088 2 жыл бұрын

What s 'democracy'? We know now. It is rule by zionist international bankers, and gradual descent into communism. That's all it is. The biggest lie. Even bigger than the lie of the communist utopia.

@tannenberg5972 2 жыл бұрын

You know that the Republicans would have won if the Germans hadnt intervened, right? The navy, which was loyal to the Republic, blocked the Gibraltar strait and without the German airlift, the Army of Africa wouldve been stuck in, well, Africa

@tannenberg5972 2 жыл бұрын

@@zmajodnocaja5088 Go see a therapist

@cristhianramirez6939 2 жыл бұрын

@@tannenberg5972 What he says it's true

@yeraysantanaaday6827 3 жыл бұрын

Si, como estudiante de salamanca puedo decir que sus piedras tienen mucha historia, y eso se nota cuando esta allí estudiando, por lo demás, una excelente universidad, de las mejores de España, saludos a los viejos compañeros de universidad.

@anacarmenvibu 3 жыл бұрын

Jajajajaja tócate los huevos es de 1200 la universidad

@LLULL-yn1rr 3 жыл бұрын

@@anacarmenvibu ¿Y no son casi 1000 años de historia? Encima, te ríes de tu ignorancia.

@ironthetiger 3 жыл бұрын

Quieres un pin?

@karlanena1 3 жыл бұрын

Yo vivo hay

@shitposturbano7224 3 жыл бұрын

Una vez fui a salamanca para comprar cordero y jamon crudo

@ghost7344 2 жыл бұрын

Just to say, the MGs used are French-made WW1 MG designs, air cooled. The French didn't want to adopt the Maxim gun as they primary MG so they developed their own design, purchased from an Austrian engineer, it's fun to see guns made/invented 26 years before in a 1936 conflict.

@hornet370 2 жыл бұрын

i don’t see the relevance

@StopFear 2 жыл бұрын

Yea yea nobody cares

@mohandisjuhraoui9626 2 жыл бұрын

I know they were also used extensively by Spain in the Rif war (1921-1926) as we can see on many photos.

@Arcaryon 2 жыл бұрын

MG42 with minor modifications worked for decades after WW2. In peace time, innovation for arms is slower than at the dawn of war. And usually, a decent gun will do it’s main job perfectly well, even 20 years after its original design was published. Take the AK47; Cheap, reliable, easily modified, as accurate as it needs to be. The ideal basic firearm.

@markhenley3097 2 жыл бұрын

Well the Spanish Army kinda sucked so no surprise.

@JohnSmith-ii9ci 3 жыл бұрын

He who saves a nation, violates no law. (Napoleon)

@Arcaryon 2 жыл бұрын

He who was sent to St Helena should reconsider if this sentence holds truth if one happens to loose.

@yerdasellsavon9232 2 жыл бұрын

Then franco saved no nation.

@sspas_12 2 жыл бұрын

@@yerdasellsavon9232 Also the republicans, who raped nuns. What Napoleon said was simply stupid.

@comradedanieru 2 жыл бұрын

Say it to the republicans

@Jcaeser187 2 жыл бұрын

@@comradedanieru those reds didn't make Spain great. You're causing the fuel shortages and diplomatic issues

@chrisporter9397 3 жыл бұрын

Remember that time when the Spanish republicans gave the Soviets over 70% of their gold reserves for their (very limited) support in the Civil War? There's that famed internationalist solidarity :^)

@keikei2942 3 жыл бұрын

Stalin was a shitter. Also stole industry and money from eastern bloc countries he "liberated"

@thepresident8252 3 жыл бұрын

The Republicans deserved everything the Nationalists did to them.

@basedkaiser5352 2 жыл бұрын

@@skylergardner2792 that’s not what happened in Spain, commie. Thankfully commies got punked hard by Franco. Keep seething, punkass !

@keikei2942 2 жыл бұрын

@@basedkaiser5352 It is what happened in Italy, Germany, and most of Europe in general, pig ;)

@coatofarms4439 2 жыл бұрын

Franco saved Spain from a communist hell. If the nationalists didn’t win millions would have died from famine and communist genocide.

@RodsAndAxes 2 жыл бұрын

¡Viva España!

@StopFear 2 жыл бұрын

Spain is a 3rd world country now

@thecatlow2773 2 жыл бұрын

@@StopFear no lo creo

@julioalbertoherrera1339 3 жыл бұрын

Artículo Segundo, se hace obligatorio el uso de mascarilla!!!

@luisna9021 3 жыл бұрын

El Pedro Sánchez anda enforzando la constitución 😳

@Daniel-uq4fp 3 жыл бұрын

Los fascista no eran tan malos.

@Daniel-uq4fp 3 жыл бұрын

@@diegomoreno7760 la fantasia purista catolica, cero vida nocturna pecaminosa

@shadowrex1968 3 жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-uq4fp jajajjaja para nadq

@juannieves1773 3 жыл бұрын

Pues más bien la fantasía del puritanismo protestante y del islamismo radical. Cero fiestas y celebraciones. Todo insita al pecado.

@Mextlatec 3 жыл бұрын

thank you for having the name of the movie in the description

@ravenwolf3715 3 жыл бұрын

1:45 "Long live the Social Revolution" Most likely a member of the CNT

@hornet370 3 жыл бұрын

screw the anarchists

@ravenwolf3715 3 жыл бұрын

@@hornet370 Screw the Fascists :)

@defenseintelligenceagency4311 3 жыл бұрын

@@ravenwolf3715 Screw the communists.

@asurrealistworld4412 3 жыл бұрын

@@defenseintelligenceagency4311 Yes screw the Marxist-Leninist communists and the fascists. They can hate each other all they want but at the end of the day both want a dictatorial government committing atrocities. To hell with them both.

@newrisingdamned7604 3 жыл бұрын

Well, screw the hell then

@thompson6737 3 жыл бұрын

¡Viva Cristo Rey!

@thompson6737 3 жыл бұрын

@Joan Luna Pérez abajo es donde tu vas, para el infierno.

@thompson6737 3 жыл бұрын

@Joan Luna Pérez Nuestra religión es la portadora de la verdadera liberdad. El infierno existe y recebe muchas personas diariamente.

@ocpv7949 2 жыл бұрын

DEUS VULT

@leninthedespoiler8113 2 жыл бұрын

Y Viva España! Una, grande y libre!

@basedkaiser5352 2 жыл бұрын

Viva Cristo Rey ! ✝️✝️✝️✝️

@emilianoescudero322 3 жыл бұрын

Casto Prieto has always hurt me a lot. The Man believed the Fidelity Promises of the Garrison and refused to concentrate the General Strike that would have made the coup difficult in Salamanca and he was not even a Communist or a Radical Republican. He was one of those unjustified victims like Garcia Lorca or Monchín Triana

@sweetballs4742 3 жыл бұрын

@Velsen people in America will call him the "devil worker" today. Especially ACAB people there (especially in Facebook). For them, being a moderate/centrist is considered a bootlicker and idk why.

@Donut1215 3 жыл бұрын

@@sweetballs4742 same with the right. If you don’t agree with them then you’re a commie lol

@sweetballs4742 3 жыл бұрын

@@Donut1215 both sides (left and right wing) there were idiots. They're gonna shove up all of their opinions/perspectives on why you need to join their cause and if you don't want to join in their shennanigans, that's where they gonna call you a bootlicker (according to a left wing idiot) or a commie (according to a right wing idiot).

@TheLordNovo 3 жыл бұрын

Unjustified? Anyone who aided the republic was guilty as hell and deserved their punishment

@emilianoescudero322 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLordNovo Casto Prieto was Elected by Majority in Salamanca, what you say does not make sense because from that perspective all those Murdered in Paracuellos del Jarama were Legitimate for supporting a Coup and Rebellion against the elected Government

@ironcladstudios971 3 жыл бұрын

HOI 4 does a better job at teaching people about the Spanish Civil war than any of our schools. Change my Mind.

@henrik3291 3 жыл бұрын

Because of game simplicity purposes HOI 4 is actually a pretty losy way of learning about ww2.

@SwiftUnity 3 жыл бұрын

@Joe agreed

@MrVentches 3 жыл бұрын

school didnt even taught me that the spanish civil war even happend

@wolfsoldner9029 3 жыл бұрын

HOI IV strongly enhanced my knowledge about geographics.

@wolfsoldner9029 3 жыл бұрын

@@MrVentches To be fair history classes mainly teach about topics focused about your nation. If you do not live in Spain the priorities for the civil would be pretty low.

@elbraguetabierta 3 жыл бұрын

based vs cringe, the war

@alvarorubiodomech8327 3 жыл бұрын

You have no idea, in the interior of the revel control land the army give out weapons to the joung falage members to keep the order. They kill all the people they have any dispute whit or any debt or even just to still their house or land, and most of this young fascist didn´t now how to read. You can argue that similar things hapened in the republic control land but there was les than 2/3 les deads of civilians than in revel control land.

@elbraguetabierta 3 жыл бұрын

@@alvarorubiodomech8327 bro se te da de puta pena el ingles 😂😂

@bacononfire 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed, based vs cringe

@YousifYuri 3 жыл бұрын

Nationalism is based, I like it.

@joseemkr 3 жыл бұрын

@@YousifYuri No.

@TheDanimensa 2 жыл бұрын

VIVA ESPAÑA,UNA GRANDE Y LIBRE

@leninthedespoiler8113 2 жыл бұрын

Arriba España!

@pacogomez1707 2 жыл бұрын

Callados, Fascistas de mierda.

@darkspectre789 2 жыл бұрын

!si viva la República española mueran los facistas!

@leninthedespoiler8113 2 жыл бұрын

@@darkspectre789 La República afortunadamente murió

@TheDanimensa 2 жыл бұрын

@@darkspectre789 jajajahaj

@KusherCZE 3 жыл бұрын

I know some Salamancas , from Breaking Bad

@jhonvelez9598 3 жыл бұрын

Tuko Franco :v

@KusherCZE 3 жыл бұрын

@@jhonvelez9598 Hector , Don Eladio + Cousins and Lalo Salamanca from Better Call Saul

@HomieDE 3 жыл бұрын

Spain: Has civil war Germany and Soviet Union: *S T O N K S*

@TheLordNovo 3 жыл бұрын

Not stonks... Army XP

@deipenasoares1869 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheLordNovo we said *S T O N K S*

@LegendaryKazooMann1936 3 жыл бұрын

Funny how this was uploaded right before the US elections

@justalex4073 3 жыл бұрын

Watching this to know what to do in the bloody Spanish civil war after loosing 10 time now (Hoi4)

@YousifYuri 3 жыл бұрын

lmao they turned hoi4 into a movie

@arbendit4348 2 жыл бұрын

Please never make a comment again. The cringe is too much from.

@YousifYuri 2 жыл бұрын

@@arbendit4348 cope harder

@ferdinand8994 2 жыл бұрын

@@arbendit4348 /woosh

@kafon6368 2 жыл бұрын

love your comment bruv

@pastachief385 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah this could have been prevented if the Republican AI had enough PP to garrison Salamanca

@deuscaritasest7518 2 жыл бұрын

i watched this movie yesterday and it was great!

@NikoHL 3 жыл бұрын

Looks very good. I'd like to see this programme.

@nadie2919 3 жыл бұрын

It is calles civil war, you can start one in your own country we dont want more here thanls

@okb6436 3 жыл бұрын

@@nadie2919 lmao jajajaj

@laguaridadeluxet5654 3 жыл бұрын

Un peliculón, mientras la guerra dure, una obra maestra del cine español sin duda

@agoraeuentendi1391 3 жыл бұрын

Franco: Hitler my bro need your help plz ...

@craigharkins4669 3 жыл бұрын

later Hitler: Yo man wanna help me out with these allies? Franco: Nah ur aight m8.

@YousifYuri 3 жыл бұрын

@@craigharkins4669 Spain was too OP, it would imbalance the war if they entered so they refrained from fighting too keep it fair

@cesarjeanlouischarlesgomzd28 3 жыл бұрын

@@YousifYuri Yeah right that was totally because. It was because they didn't wanted anymore conflicts they were already getting out of a war to enter another. Don't correct others if your gonna spit bullshit

@darkknightbatman8269 3 жыл бұрын

Mussolini: am I a joke to you :(

@ameise4038 3 жыл бұрын

Needed his help because the fucking comunists were helped by Stalin.

@toshitsuneomizu1678 3 жыл бұрын

Que alguien haga una parodia de esta escena en referencia a la declaracion del estado de alarma en España plis

@Asturceltax 3 жыл бұрын

Lo va a hacer Vox en los próximos días, pero sin ser parodia

@nadie2919 3 жыл бұрын

@@Asturceltax ¿Qué vana a hacer los payasos de vox ahora?

@hyssl0615 3 жыл бұрын

@@nadie2919 porque todo el mundo tiene que faltar el respeto a vox?? Más bien, porque todo el mundo se refiere a los partidos con indultos

@pyzard 3 жыл бұрын

@@hyssl0615 porque vox no es respetable

@nadie2919 3 жыл бұрын

@@pyzard Ningún partido es respetable, todos nos están utilizando. Debemos dejar nuestras diferencias creadas por estos partidos y sacarlos del medio. No hablo de revolución, hablo de acción.

@martig1000 3 жыл бұрын

I like stories with happy end.

@Rainaman- 3 жыл бұрын

This ain't one kid

@miwimarmer232 3 жыл бұрын

Me too

@dsch0 3 жыл бұрын

There is indeed a happy ending to all this: Francoism went out with a whimper, as the dictator restored the monarchy on his deathbed and the monarch promptly allowed a liberal-democratic system to coalesce in his place.

@samuelkovac1008 3 жыл бұрын

@@Rainaman- It is.

@angelopueyygarcia43 2 жыл бұрын

@@Rainaman- considering España is enjoying its place in the sun right now, I’d say it’s a happy ending

@Manuhr222 3 жыл бұрын

Guardia Civil is a name, no traduction, but good vídeo!!🤙🏻

@Raskolnikovtzs 3 жыл бұрын

During the first months of the war, in 1936, before Franco was appointed "Generalísimo" and took sole command of the national armies, the harangue with which the national troops entered combat was: "Long live Spain! Long live the Republic! Long live the Army!" Amenábar, director and screenwriter of this film, decided to eliminate the allusion to the republic because, according to him, it would confuse the viewer. The side that supposedly wanted to destroy the republic shouting "long live the Republic"? How is that? A simple reminder of why cinema is not the best way to learn History. History, in general, is complex. And the history of the fateful Second Spanish Republic, of the political and social nightmare that thrived in it and of the subsequent Civil War, is especially complex. This was not a war of democrats against totalitarians, but of totalitarianism A against totalitarianism B. I don't say it, illustrious Republicans, real democrats, who had to flee from both sides to save their lives, have left it. See Clara Campoamor.

@celtibero599 3 жыл бұрын

The Spainish Civil War is very confusing, but if you study correcly it has to much sense

@riograndedosulball248 3 жыл бұрын

"I love democracy" ~General Franco

@noobster4779 3 жыл бұрын

Only a part of the republican supporters were communist though. And not all nationalists were facists. It was not totalitarianism A vs. B. Both sides were made up of nearly the entore political spektrum in ideologies and partys. In the end the facist part of the nationalists succeded in consolidating power first within their nationalist faction, then over the entire country. the republican faction was nearly the entire time split between its different subfactions fighting for power.

@Lipo 3 жыл бұрын

Oddly enough. Franco transitioned Spain to Democracy. Communists would never have done that. Franco was totalitarian? Not really. I lived in Madrid 1966-72.

@celeridad6972 3 жыл бұрын

@@Lipo it was a very complex situacion but all in all I'm glad that Franco won the civil war. The results were much better than what you could expect of the other political powers in the country, both within the nationalists and thr republicans. Only blind people scream Nationalists bad! Republicans good! Or (much less ofthen) vice versa.

@OrthoKarter 9 ай бұрын

bro really had to leave us on a cliffhanger like that

@MushroomPickles 3 жыл бұрын

i always hate in movies when people pop off a gunshot for no reason inside, do they realise how fucking loud and damaging to ears that is going to be?

@im_flat 3 жыл бұрын

That's the point. Intimidation.

@christianriddler5063 3 жыл бұрын

@@im_flat If you shoot a gun inside a closed space you will realize quite quickly why it's a bad idea. Your ears might even start bleeding because of it.

@samuelkovac1008 3 жыл бұрын

@@christianriddler5063 Say that to soldiers in Stalingrad.

@christianriddler5063 3 жыл бұрын

@@samuelkovac1008 What's your point?

@samuelkovac1008 3 жыл бұрын

@@christianriddler5063 That they shot full automatic guns and machine guns in buildings 24/7.

@wizzers100 3 жыл бұрын

Where can I watch this with English subtitles! I'm still working on my Spanish!

@desichalkos5627 3 жыл бұрын

Dude are you blind? There are English subtitles down the bottom.

@wizzers100 3 жыл бұрын

@@desichalkos5627 I meant the entire movie not just this video.

@ColliderQZ 3 жыл бұрын

i found it on thepiratebay torrent tracker. Spanish sound, eng subs, hd quality.

@NeoConNET7 2 жыл бұрын

If anyone is looking for the film this scene comes from, the link is here. NOTE: You have to buy or rent the film to watch it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fs2EhMeDtZnXYnU.html

@anisplayer9168 Жыл бұрын

Spanish civil war is this a hoi4 reference

@nicbahtin4774 Жыл бұрын

YES

@koookeee 3 жыл бұрын

Do yourselves all a favour and read a good book about the Spanish Civil War. A. Beevor's "The battle for Spain" readily comes to mind.

@mysteryman6918 3 жыл бұрын

An awesome book.

@albertjosefsson7304 3 жыл бұрын

I also recommend to the movie "Land and Freedom" by Ken Loach.

@sneedlybased3251 3 жыл бұрын

I also recommend Mine were of Trouble by Peter Kemp. The description of the Spanish Civil war from Nationalist perspective. It's available on amazon.

@mysteryman6918 3 жыл бұрын

@@sneedlybased3251 gonna ask for that one for Christmas

@sneedlybased3251 3 жыл бұрын

@@mysteryman6918 If you are interested, there is a book named "Always with Honor". The description of Russian civil war from the perspective of the nationalist white army

@HollyHartwellWhite 11 ай бұрын

*Salamanca Money, Salamanca blood & Salamanca Country!!!!*

@user-gy4rz1un7o 3 жыл бұрын

Where can i get the trasncription of this scene? De dónde puedo conseguir la transcripcion de esa escena?

@yukimusso2857 3 жыл бұрын

Viva españa!

@Rainaman- 3 жыл бұрын

Viva republica!

@anonimojeje1888 3 жыл бұрын

Viva el pueblo

@centralagency4333 2 жыл бұрын

Stop saying viva! This movie nothing like patriotic. Spanish civil war is a war! You want to support Franco?! Huh? A fascist!

@b3ygghsas 2 жыл бұрын

@@centralagency4333 I would rather support franco than support commies

@progmetalJorge Жыл бұрын

@@centralagency4333 if you tell me to choose between two extremes I wouldn't choose commies so there's that, glowie.

@coolwhip455 3 жыл бұрын

Why does this seem like a very real possibility in the US right now.

@aussieman4791 3 жыл бұрын

Make things entertaining

@edubvb5193 3 жыл бұрын

nowhere near. Spain had way bigger tensions in these days. People where actually getting killed for being leftist or right-supporting. Bombs were sent to politicians and union leaders. Political murder was a real thing whereas the US barely has political activism

@cascadian_ultranationalist14HH 3 жыл бұрын

@@edubvb5193 were a couple weeks off dont worry

@edubvb5193 3 жыл бұрын

@@cascadian_ultranationalist14HH yeah no that ain't happening even though you all seem to desire blood spilling

@Itgetsbetterofficial 3 жыл бұрын

Probably because you have marbles loose.

@eduardogontanpulgarin9159 3 жыл бұрын

Mmmm...The Square (la plaza) looks a bit small for Salamanca, which is bigger than the Plaza Mayor of Madrid, though they were designed and built by the same guy. I'm not happy with the way the Private salutes his Captain (the officer reading the declaration of Martial Law), you don't salute like that in the Spanish Army when carrying a weapon. They could've been a bit more careful with those details, me thinks!

@alexius319 3 жыл бұрын

That´s a minor change. There are a lot of bigger mistakes involving characters, flags, dates.... You can´t consider it a film to learn history (even more if it´s a Spanish film because it will be strongly sided with one of the two factions). Still, some people in Spain want one of the two factions to come back.

@eduardogontanpulgarin9159 3 жыл бұрын

@@alexius319 Good point; still, about the people who want those factions to come back...I'd say that, in a country where the male population is, by virtue of its laws, made into criminals, those factions are amply justified. It is question of time before it happens, if I know my Spaniards; I'd be surprised if they have changed that much.

@alejandrosotomartin9720 3 жыл бұрын

It was filmed in the real square.

@alexius319 3 жыл бұрын

@@alejandrosotomartin9720 U mean Main Square

@user-gp2zi2cm8s Ай бұрын

why do spanish civil war movies always look so aesthetically beautiful

@davidvasconcellos1780 3 жыл бұрын

where can i buy a cpoy of this movie?

@jhonvelez9598 3 жыл бұрын

The cipoys dont exist anymore.

@thethodel 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a way to watch the film? Its very hard to find where

@OttoVonBismarck-pq4vr 3 жыл бұрын

Try to watch it here: movidy.co/peliculas/p542921-ver-mientras-dure-la-guerra-online

@aleksihamalainen9229 3 жыл бұрын

@@OttoVonBismarck-pq4vr Subtitles?

@miguelalmeida9771 3 жыл бұрын

Fmovies

@OttoVonBismarck-pq4vr 3 жыл бұрын

ww5.fmovie.sc/online/while-at-war-2019/ in English

@josecasti123 3 жыл бұрын

xvideos

@Ivannjhh 3 жыл бұрын

ARRIBA Y SIEMPRE CATÓLICA ESPAÑA 🇪🇦🦅🇪🇦

@thegendel8269 3 жыл бұрын

Todavia gente cree en dios? XD

@rumbleice9467 Жыл бұрын

Franco salvó a España de los republicanos. Si los republicanos ganaran la guerra civil, España hubiera sido otra Unión Soviética

@stoggafllik Жыл бұрын

@@thegendel8269 >being this much of an autistic commie LARPer

@brandtlucasbrandt 3 жыл бұрын

Where the hell can I find the full movie with English subtitles? I can't find it anywhere. Not even to buy it or pirate it! It is just gone everywhere!

@Alegredesconocido 3 жыл бұрын

dontorrent.net/pelicula/21637/Mientras-dure-la-guerra

@brandtlucasbrandt 3 жыл бұрын

@@Alegredesconocido thanks

@mikerizardo5282 3 жыл бұрын

@@Alegredesconocido how do i watch it i cant understand anything?

@Alegredesconocido 3 жыл бұрын

@@mikerizardo5282 You can also download from here with Torrent

@arturocevallossoto5203 3 жыл бұрын

lrn to piratebay

@lcbonastre2418 3 жыл бұрын

Sube más por favor

@minedoimperija 2 жыл бұрын

And this, kids, is how you grind hoi4 divisions

@abc-xn7db 3 жыл бұрын

"Gatherings of more than 3 people in public are forbidden! Those who disobey will be immediately dispersed by force" 🤔 sounds familiar

@m.c.schock2933 3 жыл бұрын

Martial law isn't the same as quarantine.

@abc-xn7db 3 жыл бұрын

@@m.c.schock2933 its still infringing peoples freedom

@m.c.schock2933 3 жыл бұрын

@@abc-xn7db in a pandemic situation, loss of rights needs to be understood and tolerated. Fighting against it doesn't make you a freedom fighter, but a dangerous individual who is more likely to prolong this situation.

@GunMeat 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@m.c.schock2933 3 жыл бұрын

@Shas'ui Unless you live in a dictatorship, these are only temporary measures.

@Milesamanjaro 2 жыл бұрын

"Shut up, ma'am"

@redone196 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing camera move

@Freshbobba 2 жыл бұрын

Viva Cristo Rey

@thelordofgifts5343 3 жыл бұрын

Viva España!

@juandomingoperon1151 3 жыл бұрын

una grande y libre

@centralagency4333 2 жыл бұрын

Spare your patriotic. This is a movie! A Spanish civil war! You support war?

@invictusrei 10 ай бұрын

when the Spanish Civil War kicks off in hoi4 and you choose nationalists.

@themonarchist9512 Жыл бұрын

Based department

@idk4772 3 жыл бұрын

My grandfather fought in Spain as a British troop later joining ww2

@tompor561 3 жыл бұрын

Which side?

@idk4772 3 жыл бұрын

@@tompor561 against franco

@rogerolle4906 3 жыл бұрын

@@idk4772 internacional brigades then?

@idk4772 3 жыл бұрын

@@rogerolle4906 yes

@ChunkyShartSpray 3 жыл бұрын

@@idk4772 cringe

@bislarck4494 3 жыл бұрын

Gracias a todos los españoles que pararon el avance del comunismo. Hoy en día España es un país libre y democrático gracias a la guerra del 36

@arnoldroy1319 3 жыл бұрын

Seria mas bien gracias al régimen del 78

@bislarck4494 3 жыл бұрын

@@arnoldroy1319 No porque si hubiese ganado la republica España habría sido un país soviético satélite de la URSS y hoy estaríamos carentes de derechos y pobres como los países que han sido soviéticos como Cuba,Vietnam,corea del norte y tal. La guerra civil fue la clave

@arnoldroy1319 3 жыл бұрын

@@bislarck4494 pero si hubiésemos sido un país comunista hilter nos hubiese invadido y luego estados unidos nos "liberaría" y nos hubiesen dado fondos del plan Marshall

@matapikillos3360 2 жыл бұрын

@@bislarck4494menuda estupidez ignorante

@DSMCCrix 2 жыл бұрын

No manden dicho esfuerzo por la borda, que el progrezurdismo está golpeando duro acá en hispanoamérica,saludos hermanos españoles.

@dragon_nite1836 3 жыл бұрын

This movie is too good to watch, why it is not available to watch rn?

@angloaust1575 2 жыл бұрын

Most countries have their civil wars This is no exception

@arminius9268 2 жыл бұрын

1:23 Captain America: Viva Espana! Iron Man: Viva la Republica! Civil War

@anonanonym9872 3 жыл бұрын

와 근데 수십초 내에 저 넓은 광장에서 순식간에 편 갈리고 , 서로 죽고 죽일 대상화 되는거 오지네. 이게 내전의 모습인듯

@tumadrelagorda 3 жыл бұрын

🅱️

@hst615 3 жыл бұрын

꼬우면 선거에서 이기면 되는데 총 들고 광장 온 파시스트 반란군이 문제. 공화국을 지지하는 좌익 시민들 입장에선 살기 위해서라도 싸워야 했던 게 스페인 내전.

@tumadrelagorda 3 жыл бұрын

Kim jong dong wat r u saying

@hst615 3 жыл бұрын

@@tumadrelagorda First of all, bloody racist. Secondly, This comment is not for you. move along.

@tumadrelagorda 3 жыл бұрын

@@hst615 oh shit some retarded offended minority please dont cry on instagram pls

@FG-rd5td 3 жыл бұрын

UNA. GRANDE Y. LIBRE....VIVA. FRANCO. ARRIBA ESPAÑA.

@OfficialRibbitNixon 2 жыл бұрын

The 3 republicans thinking they can take on 20 guys while armed with pistols lmao

@lablackzed 3 жыл бұрын

A good film 👍

@Istori3Ro 3 жыл бұрын

Its God, with a G.

@alexius319 3 жыл бұрын

A video talking about the mistakes in this film will be severely times longer than the film itself. Not so bad for a film but hate when people try to sell it as a way to learn history.

@Rainaman- 3 жыл бұрын

Every historical movie has a bias. Thats just how it goes. Seems like a good movie tho.

@Rusu421 11 ай бұрын

A leftist republic is good. Nationalists are bad. Propaganda, you know.

@heyyou69 2 жыл бұрын

Long live the empire of Spain!

@DSMCCrix 2 жыл бұрын

PLUS ULTRA

@mylesdeleon5654 2 жыл бұрын

Plus ultra hermano

@thesecond4767 2 жыл бұрын

Lmao what empire

@abelchavez2463 11 ай бұрын

My guy living in the past

@the__rock263 11 ай бұрын

Wow what a great empire it was, built on genocide of natives around world and discrimination of said natives and black people

@Lipo 3 жыл бұрын

I recommend George Orwell's book Homage to Catalonia.

@miguelrodriguez-pineroriva6713 3 жыл бұрын

Bruh catalans movement is right wing

@alanjrubin2012 3 жыл бұрын

@@miguelrodriguez-pineroriva6713 homage to Catalonia no tiene que ver con el nacionalismo catalán

@Lipo 3 жыл бұрын

@@miguelrodriguez-pineroriva6713 Bullshit

@geronimozarza8495 3 жыл бұрын

@@Lipo Yes. Those movements are actually Left Wing.

@fergal2424 3 жыл бұрын

@Velsen lolllll big bad Russia xD

@cpt7752 2 жыл бұрын

ARRIBA ESPAÑA

@SVNB2610 Жыл бұрын

Nationalist heroes

@mosukuwa9294 Жыл бұрын

Viva España, alzad la frente, hijos del pueblo español, que vuelve a resurgir. Gloria a la Patria que supo seguir, sobre el azul del mar el caminar del sol. Gloria a la Patria que supo seguir, sobre el azul del mar el caminar del sol. ¡Triunfa España! Los yunques y las ruedas cantan al compás del himno de la fe. Juntos con ellos cantemos de pie la vida nueva y fuerte del trabajo y paz. Viva España, alzad los brazos, hijos del pueblo español, que vuelve a resurgir. Gloria a la Patria que supo seguir, sobre el azul del mar el caminar del sol.

@warrasreview1700 3 жыл бұрын

Película 100% recomendable

@mstray6478 3 жыл бұрын

Não consigo um site pra assistir...

@Shinigami4245 3 жыл бұрын

@@mstray6478 Búscala por google con el titulo en español "mientras dure la guerra" ,hay algunas paginas de películas online que la tienen.

@mstray6478 3 жыл бұрын

@@Shinigami4245 Tienes o link de algum site? Eu não encontrei nenhum. :(

@bytrish3113 3 жыл бұрын

Una pregunta, ¿Que punto de vista tiene la película? He escuchado que muchas películas sobre la guerra civil normalmente romantizan la república, y me gustaría saber si esta es una de esas. PD: Aclaro por las dudas que no soy franquista, solo busco una película mas o menos "neutra" respecto a la historia.

@albertocruzado2899 3 жыл бұрын

@@bytrish3113 No está mal. Se le nota un poco el rejo al director, hay muchos momentos donde podría mostrar o comentar la peor cara de la República y no lo hace, sin dudar tanto con los otros. Por otro, y es de agradecer, no reduce a Franco a una caricatura. Logran componer a un personaje interesante, esquivo y pasivo (en apariencia) que no sabes si de verdad tiene el bien de España en la cabeza, o es un oportunista que quiere aprovecharse de la sublevación para medrar, y lo del bien mayor es algo que se dice a sí mismo (o un poco de ambas). Lo único realmente criticable históricamente hablando, en plan "chacho, que burdo es esto", es la caricatura a la que reducen a Millan Astray.

@dr.finnegan3949 11 ай бұрын

Salamanca money, Salamanca blood!!

@HollyHartwellWhite 11 ай бұрын

Salamanca Country!!!

@drunkgopnik 3 жыл бұрын

where i can see the entire film? donde puedo ver la peli? está en HBO?

@alfredodistefanolaulhe2212 3 жыл бұрын

emule

@santislpslp1595 3 жыл бұрын

Movistar

@nunbiz7328 2 жыл бұрын

Everyone dressed better back then. The soldiers and the dudes in the 3 piece rolling up with handguns.

@CodaMission 2 жыл бұрын

Writers after 1945 called the Spanish Civil War "the Dress Rehearsal for WWII"

@nicbahtin4774 Жыл бұрын

a based coup

@alejandroalejandria3092 Жыл бұрын

Based

@MrJota-by9fi 3 жыл бұрын

Por lo menos no llego el comunismo ah España

@user-qd3lc7zb6n 2 жыл бұрын

Arriva España 🇪🇸

@tau434 3 жыл бұрын

It strikes me reading through these comments that the message of this movie seems to be lost on some people. The logic of "it's either the Nationalists or the Communists" is exactly what this movie is trying to argue against. The problem with the Spanish Civil War, with many civil conflicts arguably, is that the alternative was always painted as radical - ie you're either with us or you're with "insert radical ideology people are afraid of". A large reason why the Nationalists gained support from Catholics and other right leaning individuals was because the supposed alternative was "Stalin and Communism." I do not seek to defend the Spanish Republic - the institution was already fragmented and unlikely to survive even if the coup did not occur. But the point of this movie is to demonstrate that political radicalism thrives when people are convinced that they must choose one of two sides or be subjected to the brutality of the other. That's the message of Miguel de Unamuno's speech at the very end of the movie and I think it rings very true. Is this the most accurate retelling of the Spanish Civil War there is? No, and arguably I think the move could've done a better job with its message. But I like that they captured the whole "us versus them" mentality that unfortunately created tacit approval for the Nationalists and later Franco's regime.

@melan5696 3 жыл бұрын

big brain centrist time

@1legomaster 3 жыл бұрын

Franco did nothing wrong. Actually he did do one thing wrong, he trusted Juan Carlos.

@melan5696 3 жыл бұрын

@@1legomaster Franco was a class traitor. Don't idolise fascists, they only serve the interests of the mega wealthy.

@javiermesa-martinez8731 3 жыл бұрын

I am afraid you were in such a rush to establish a false equivalence that you too missed the point. The "logic" was never between Nationalists or Communist, but rather between Fascism and Democracy.

@1legomaster 3 жыл бұрын

@@melan5696 Don't use your commie bullshit lingo with me, Franco was a hero to Spain and faithfully served the Lord. More so than any godless communist.