It was an honour

"everyone wants to talk about the divine feminine. The answer is shut up" I'm definitely stealing than one Jonathan! Such a great line! Great conversation, thanks for sharing

I am so glad you asked Jonathan about the place of the French Canadians/Québécois place in Universal History. Thank you!

Pageau’s comment on the need for balanced storytelling about the foundation of Quebec call to mind “Black Robe”, a 1985 novel by Brian Moore about a Jesuit priest who travels to the Huron country with a band of Algonquians. The 1991 movie adaptation is one of my favorite films ever.

Jonathan Pageau and Denis Villeneuve can make the Epic History of Le Quebecois

TELOSBOUND IS THE FUTURE OF ONLINE CHRISTIAN PHILOSOPHY!!! God bless you all

These types of "interviews" with Jonathan are really the most interesting to watch in my opinion. Where the interlocutors are already familiar with his type of symbolic thinking, and so 90% of the time doesn't have to be used getting familiar with basic concepts, only to just barely get things off the ground. (I'm not saying the other types of interviews are bad, since for many (including me) these things are initially hard to grasp)

Pageau has a brilliant mind

Great chat guys. Loved the section on monsters and the part on non dualism. Keep up the good work bros. God bless ☦️

Something I would love to see the Universal History project touch on is the rich tradition of Western Balladry. The ancient ballads of the British Isles like “Tam Lin” and “Thomas the Rhymer” are deeply Christian and stand as rich folklore.

I absolutely love what he said about story telling and positivity. Coming to say what you mean. Couldn’t agree more.

Lovely conversation, thank you guys !

Love to see it, keep up the good work lads!

I love this channel so much, great work! Thank you for the awesome content!

Wow amazing! Congrats guys! :D

Wow! How exciting to get a man like Pageau. You guys are killing it on this channel. 🔥

GREAT SHOW! GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

The simplest explanation of gift is mother's milk feeding her baby. She wants nothing back, just life and health for her baby.

Great discussion guys

The whole categorization of Monsters you guys discussed got me thinking about our internal monsters, our passions, so there are passions that can be tamed in time with prayer and a sacramental life, there are passions that will need to be constantly "killed", that you really need to keep a constant vigil for life, and then there are this passions that are somehow dormant that you don't want to wake up and you've never had to battle against. So yeah, we are full of wild monsters.

I've in my thoughts touched most of the notion of non- but this guys speaks it well

Marty Robbins,YES

Awesome talk, the biirrrds are really speaking in this one!

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The part about Christ as the redeemer of the fool as well as the worm was interesting but I would heed Jonathan's advice about being careful. It's better to talk about these things off camera

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Interesting talk on non-dualism and negative theology. Wonder what Pageau thinks about Dionysius the Areopagite.

Something that popped into my head in the discussion of Christ unifying the higher and the lower waters is how the separation of the higher and lower waters was the only day of creation which God did not say was good, perhaps because it was a distinction meant to be erased by the incarnate logos

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The Monster you tame, the ones you kill and the ones you let be.

I haven't watched all of this yet, but what Pegeau talks about around 1:04:09 about following the law and breaking the law, some would argue that's the nature of religion in general and the old covenant in particular, and that the breaking of the law was a holy happening. For example, killing is forbidden; sacrifice is holy. Sex is forbidden; matrimony is holy. Seeing the face of God is associated with death; entering the holy of the holies was a commanded, holy, act. The transcendent layed in just what Pegeau is talking about, following and breaking the law. I think you could take this even further and tie it to what you talk about in the end of the stream (1:27:50) and say that christian communion is a following and breaking of the law: you're not allowed to eat God (and you're not allowed to eat the fruit of knowledge), except then you're commanded to ("take this cup away from me", etc.) Would be interesting to know what you guys think. Maybe you've talked abt it in other vids.

The birds are excited 😆

Saying true stuff, about false things .👍🏾

24:29 Symbolism happens moment

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It was weird because of the birds. It took me a minute to realize what I was hearing. However, I didn’t think it was distracting and didn’t take away from the conversation

Now in typical Canadian tradition you both must kiss a moose together

Those birds.. 😮

W I S D O M from JP on non-duality etc.

Told you.

Like father like son

The explorers of new worlds, starting with Christopher Columbus and ending with Elon Musk, fall into the same category as those who conquer mountain peaks like Everest, and they all encounter the stranger and the marginal, but these journeys are mirror's of the spiritual ascent that inevitably leads to the encounter with the stranger, as it was with Jesus who met the Foreignness itself in the desert when he was tempted. In other words, one must explore and exercise one's adventurous side to accommodate the decaying effect of inner adventure and gain the ability to integrate one's own decay. All these concepts remain worthless and can create delusion if they are not transposed into one's own experience, if man does not explore his own universe and is not aware of his solarity. And in order not to reach this point of error, man must become religious, he must practice and practice being part of a religious community. I really liked that the side of distinction that is contained in divinity was also touched upon. Thanks for the seemingly colloquial discussion.

Imrsqd and nobigdyl have redeemed Christian rap

like the reason is that we are not made of one brain cell

I think the thing missing in pop music is execution. There's really nobody executing like the giants of old anymore, but I think it's just a matter of time for christians to take over. Though taste is kind of subjective there are some things you can speak about objectively. Rock tended to be the leaders in engineering tone. Nobody sounds as good as led Zeppelin on a good set of speakers, and drummers will still tell the engineer "i want a Bonham kick." But Rock's limitation is technicality. Steely Dan sucks. These days everything is so compressed it sounds abstracted from the real world. Compare to when people had one mic and you could hear the room. Then there's classical which is fairly stagnant but has the best melodies IMO. The seasons petit adagio is like one of the best melodies you'll ever hear. Then there's jazz which is like the opposite of classsical in terms of improvisation but also can suffer from lack of melody or engineering but have crazy harmonies and rhythms. There's guys like Snarky Puppy that can blow you away, but still fail to bring everything together. We could dive into genres but really i think the place where Christians can step into would be execution. There's very few people, and i would say no christians I've ever heard bring all of these elements together: engineering, melody, technicality, innovation. The last band I'd say that came close and brought about a new sound was MUTEMATH but they weren't Orthodox and i think someone could take it further. Dirt poor robins is pretty good i won't lie, but they sound a lot like if Muse came out of Nashville. I'm talking about a band that is undeniable like say a Deftones or Mars Volta taken to the next level.

non-non-dualism is still both the same and not the same as dualism and you can draw whatever line you want on this

Christians : First time?

Muslims and Christian’s had been saying it for a thousand years

mocking christian rap is a bad look. it's easy to critique almost anyone or anything (and it would be easy to send criticism your way too). if someone is legit moving by faith, then leave them be, and follow the words of our Lord: "for whoever is not against us is for us" (st. mark 9:40). i never understood extending so much grace to unbelievers and being so sharp towards your brothers and sisters. like the meme: "why not (grace towards) both?"

Rule #1: You do not talk about the non-duality of the waters. Rule #2: YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE NON-DUALITY OF THE WATERS. Really, it's a can of worms.

Why is everyone intrigued with J.P.? He's all over the place.

This is the lie in this video, this is Patriarch Paul. Serbian priest. Who lived in Belgrade and died in 2009, has nothing to do with Jews. Because he is Orthodox