Chinese Diesel Heaters GETTING BETTER?
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Жыл бұрын@MaXpeedingRods have released a brand-new Chinese diesel heater design ready to keep your self built campervan warm in the winter. with a new exterior case, a Bluetooth app for phone for remote control and some better accessories. is it worth the upgrade and different from what else is on the market? I tear it down, test and look what's in the box.
This isn't a review, more of a initial thoughts and tear down to show what you get in the box and how different parts of the heater works
What do I think?
This version cost a bit more ( just under £175 on amazon ) than the normal heaters, is it worth it? the heater does what you expect it to do, heats up.
If a App / Bluetooth remote is what you want then this is the version for you. if a app isn't important then there normal version should ok.
I do think some of the accessories and spares the kit comes with is better than others on the market however I was disappointed to see green fuel line
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@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
What an important feature for your heater? ( besides heat ) the small remote control? Phone app? Better accessories in the box , Something else? I want to hear. Maxpeedingrods seem to be pretty open to taking feedback which I could pass on.
@EXYUTV Жыл бұрын
Too bad they didnt implement only fan mode, this way yo can get fresh air without heating....
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
@Djole Djole They do have a fan mode I showed it in the video. At 20:31
@EXYUTV Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures my bad, didnt watch carefully :)
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
@@EXYUTV no problem it’s only a very short scene . I was surprised to see it as a feature I’ve not seen it before on one of these
@EXYUTV Жыл бұрын
@TryNDoxMe There are people who made a copper tube "coil" around the exhaust with a pump for heating water.
@mange2 Жыл бұрын
My last Chinese heater lasted 3 years before the fan bearing started pulling the fan blades out of alignment which threw up a fault code which prevented heater from working. I just bought another one for £100 and simply replaced it.. I never even had to replace the pump, filter or pipework. £100 every 3 years is a bargain especially because I live in my van full time.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I agree the same. They last for years when properly installed, and then you can buy a whole new unit for the price of a single spare on the more expensive western units
@718racer1 Жыл бұрын
I simply changed the bearing as soon as I heard a noise. Bearings are cheap on Ebay.
@americannumber2 Жыл бұрын
You can buy the parts for cheap. I have all the components for backups. Every 2 or 3 years replace a few things. Only cost me less than $100
@Bear-cm1vl Жыл бұрын
If I may suggest, change to the pump that comes with the new heater when changing the heater. This type of pump moves a specific amount of fuel with each stroke, what you hear as a "click" when the pump is running and that fuel delivery is matched to the burner speed, so using another pump may or may not match the burner and a mismatch can cause the burner to run rich (slowly causing soot buildup) or lean (causing improper light off, flameout and, under worst conditions, overheating of the chamber and glow plug). Personally, I would keep the old pump as an emergency backup.
@leejohnson6173 Жыл бұрын
@@Bear-cm1vl all the different brands of Chinese heaters I have had in my semi literally all have the same pump.
@ProjectCamper Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with the green fuel pipe and hose clips, absolute tosh, really looking forward to getting my hands on this as the afterburner kit hopefully won’t be needed. 👍👍
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
It’s a shame they’ve not yet improved those in the kit. I’ll still be using my afterburner and current heater. But if those options weren’t available to me, I think this heater is currently the one on the market with the most features.
@docbarham2431 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex!😊
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
No problem at all, hope it helps you make a decision if you’re after one
@HaveAFishYaDickhead Жыл бұрын
I got one of these and mounted it in a hardcase box to take carp fishing in the winter. Makes such a difference knowing no matter how long I spend out in the cold my tent is lovely and warm. I sleep on top of my sleeping bag most nights, and because its blowing nice warm air in the inside of my tent stays bone dry 👌
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
That’s a great plan. I’ve seen a few photos of videos of people making their own portable ones. Glad to hear it’s keeping you warm!
@surfingcuriositywaves4046 Жыл бұрын
On the first priming, the pump is dry (unlubricated). A good tip from youtuber John McK 47 (great series on these heaters, look him up) is to put a few drops of light oil directly in the pump before hooking up the hoses. Then your pump will not be running unlubricated during the long first priming session. The alternative is to vacuum start the fluid through the long hose by mouth or other contraption.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
These pumps are all prelubricated at factory / tested you get a decent amount of liquid come out of them long before fuel gets there
@Bear-cm1vl Жыл бұрын
These fuel pumps are metered injection, also known as "stroke" pumps and do not have rotating components, so dry running is not as important, however putting some diesel fuel into the pump before startup will help seat and seal the inlet and outlet valves, as well as help the pump achieve a better vacuum on the inlet line and draw fuel more effectively with each stroke.
@stianstave76 Жыл бұрын
To vacuum a fuel line, use a spray bottle trigger.
@eisenschmeisser3959 Жыл бұрын
I like my chinese heater, as simple as it is. No fancy bluetooth, only nice heat :-) For 120 EUR an absolute van life game changer. But.... the fan mode seems to be nice ! BTW: The 80´s Atari-Game voice, that comes out of the control unit is annoying AF...
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
The one I use in my van was £84 and a normal black controller ( which I have replaced with an afterburners controller) but it’s been great. The voice it’s totally not needed, but at least they actually added an English option, as well as just the factory Chinese it comes set too. 😂 Having a fan motor is definitely something which others don’t have
@Flash1857 Жыл бұрын
Good run down and review, thanks
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@kellymelrose8527 2 ай бұрын
ive just mounted my pump outside .. stretched a few elastic cords across the chassis and fixed in place with cable ties ...took a bit of time to get everything just right but it working very well... and nice and quite inside
@MispronouncedAdventures 2 ай бұрын
That’s one of the ways of mounting it. mine is mounted on its mounting just loosely to the vehicle on its rubber mount so very little noise gets transferred through. The main issue is when people bolt them tightly to the vehicle, and the vibrations are transferred easily
@theonlywoody2shoes Жыл бұрын
I fully agree with your concerns regarding the cardboard intake tubing and cheap fuel line. One more “negative” for me is the straight through exhaust/silencer. The genuine Webasto ones have a twist in the pipe as it enters the silencer box, and you can’t see straight through. The genuine ones do create a slightly higher back pressure (not an issue for the heater) but are so much quieter imo. Great review video thanks.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’ve seen quite a few variations of the silencer. The spring straight through. And the one with the curve in. This one, however, being a straight through spring, but filled with what appears to be fibreglass is a bit different. Surely that’s going to disrupt the ability to suppress. Green fuel line disappoints me and i’ve never seen a kit before with cardboard tube in
@tylerfisher7819 Жыл бұрын
I like these so much, I bought 2. My favorite controller.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
They are great when you have good versions!
@tylerfisher7819 Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures I live at a high elevation. These are the only ones that keep running right for me. Since the fuel pump works off the altitude.
@DB-yj3qc Жыл бұрын
I bought one last year to install in my travel trailer replacing the propane one that quit workingafter2 years. I've yet to install it. So about a month back I got a link for a slightly smaller and case ready to go one cheaper than the previous one. I ordered it and about a week ago I ran it for about 10 hours off of a paired set of 36amp Lithium Ion batteries. It used around 3 liter of diesel fuel. For what I've paid for both and some spare parts I'm not even a third of the price of Wabasto fuel heater. Let alone all the problems that I've heard with some of them.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
For the price of them there great. I find my diesel average is around 180ml per hour and just over 2000 hours run time on mine.
@Bear-cm1vl Жыл бұрын
Nice review Alex. If the new heater's controller is ramping the fuel pump speed and fan as the space nears setpoint, it may have a PID control algorithm, which adjusts the fire rate based on how far the current temp is from setpoint, how much heat the unit is designed to produce and how much time the unit is taking to reach setpoint. These controllers may have a full shutdown mode but the response is covered up by changing the setpoint for testing, so you may want to use the heater without making setpoint adjustments and see if still goes several degrees above setpoint and overheating the space. On the cheap controllers, I have set up a separate temperature control to take command of the "On/Off" function and cycle automatically when the temperature gets 2 deg F above setpoint, but it requires accessing the original controller's electronics.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the detailed comment. Unfortunately this unit doesn’t have on / of shutdown cycle option. I also haven’t seen must evidence of the heater adjusting it’s fire rate to maintain a set temperature. Just ramping up and down. my personal Chinese heater with an afterburner controller does both of these. But it is nice seeing more improvements
@Bear-cm1vl Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures would you share sourcing and part numbers for the upgraded controller, please?
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
@@Bear-cm1vl unfortunately it’s not as easy as a part number. It was a github project made by an Australian called the “afterburner” for Chinese diesel heaters. there is a good Facebook group ( advanced afterburner Chinese diesel heater controller ) , the creator made, and through that you can learn about the unit and where to obtain one ( or build yourself)
@Bear-cm1vl Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures very good info and I will look into the groups and the project. Looks like it's time to heat up the soldering station and prepare a PC board! 👍
@TheMajictech Жыл бұрын
I’ve also had great luck with vevor brand ones.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard good things with the quality of Vevor
@rodgersmith4116 Жыл бұрын
Can you confirm MaXpeedingrods ACTUALY are the manufacture this heater as they are an AUTOMOTIVE parts supplier.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Night heaters are automotive parts so it would make sense, They have always been made for Vehicles particularly trucks. My older heater which I’ve had for quite a few years is also Maxpeedingrods. And my Conversations with them and feedback I offered does make it appear that is their product with parts like the ECU, Controller, Case and so on. Other components will be made by suppliers.
@jameshunt2141 Жыл бұрын
the little bits of metal left over from casting the casing are called flashing or flash. you get the same with all types of casting and they should really have removed them like your having to
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Ah thank you, I knew there was a correct name for it! I just wanted to call it overcasting or something as I for the life of me couldn’t remember the correct name. But a agree it normal but should be cleaned up a factory.
@appalingbehaviour 5 ай бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures Hullo Alex, regarding the fans, I have a noisy 2kw heater which I suspect needs the fans balancing. Do you know how I can identify which bit of the fan needs to be defaced, attacked and mildly mangled like the fans in this model? Love the vids. Many thanks
@hubrisnaut Жыл бұрын
This is very interesting. I have retired friends who are customizing a cargo van for long road trips. I will let them know about this heating option.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
They’re great option for diesel powered vehicles.
@hubrisnaut Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures Despite being given this unit for free, you gave an honest appraisal which I appreciate. subscribing I am single, semi-retired and will be fully retired in a few years; seriously considering customizing a van to go on the road (I'm to old for my dream of a sailboat). I live in America and there are a lot of places to explore.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
@@hubrisnaut I appreciate that comment, I accepted the unit because I do like playing around with diesel heaters and wanted to see what was new in development, but just because it’s for free doesn’t necessarily mean they’re getting a positive one. Lucky for them. I did have good points to say as well as one or two bad ones
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
@@hubrisnaut definitely in the states, you have a vast and wide ranging environments to explore
@rudivandoornegat2371 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm in agreement with you. I also like the tool kit and this is the most no nonsense controller I've ever seen on a parking heater. The cardboard air intake for the furnace is it's weakest selling point. The low quality fuel line and brackets are normal for this price range. One small improvement I could imagine is if they would separate the temperature sensor from the display. And an on/off button for the display, as some people don't like the light when they're sleeping.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Yes, cardboard intake and fuel line are negative. Which is annoying a lot of other Chinese kits to come with the normal aluminium coated one and hardline. Completely agree with those other points. Heater core temperature & fan rpm seem to be very easily accessible on the controller, which is mostly unnecessary for day-to-day use. Easy access to the room temperature would be more important. It definitely would be great to have a display sleep button as well.
@gerardjurgens2670 Жыл бұрын
I had a gasheater in my caravan with an external exhaust to the roof, a monoxoyddetector as well but I never liked to put myself to sleep with the heater on! I like this unit as it runs on the same fuel as my vehicle. The only downside to me is the constant fannoise
@gbear1005 5 ай бұрын
@@gerardjurgens2670because of the low heat content, and the risk of carbon buildup and condensation the exhaust should ALWAYS be going down, straight down being the best.
@phillallen01 Жыл бұрын
Nice i may have to upgrade my unit ive had it 6 years now with no problems at all and i even run it on low quiteba lot i taken it apart to see what it is like inside with nothing to clean so it put back together and run again hopefully for another 6 years but i may just get one of these units
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Happy with my with 2 and a bit years of run time and 2000 hours+ Going to service my current one soon to look at the bearings
@jamesduffus4455 Жыл бұрын
I have been running a 8kw as my primary heat source in a 27' gulf stream for going on 4 years the first one lasted two winters running full time the first winter was a learning process i did run out of full once caused the pump to run silent there after towards the end of the second winter pump was loosing power it was a struggle to keep it running hot fan bearing started failing so it got real loud if you have a pet its important to run a furnace filter if the fan isn't kept clean it will throw off the balance causing it to fail. so the pump and blower is why i replaced the first one the brand is auto parts. the second one was a brand called vevor an exact match to the first one other then two things the controller and that green fuel line controller is very similar to that one except no bluetooth i didn't like the UI so i stuck with my original same with the fuel line my original came with a hard nylon fuel line so i stuck with it the vevor is on its second season running great last year it got down to -26f with a wind chill of -56f this year its already seen 20f and its not even november yet it runs great i go thru roughly 5 gallons of off road diesel a week to heat a 7'Hx8'Dx27'L space thermostat set to 20c. fyi don't ever run the pump more than 2 seconds without fuel it will cause permanent damage and will need to be replaced early these pumps have a tolerance of +/_ .002" just like an engine bearing without oil it gets cooked fast
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Great heater, most of the time the only difference between different companies is the ECU/controller and the accessory ( fuel line, exhaust and so on ). Some of those are definitely better than others. I have seen some kits come with hard line fuel line and other still that green stuff. I can see the importances if you have pets to have a filter over the intake side. My current one has done 2 winters and just over 2000 hours of run time. Fan bearing makes a little noise. But now I have a spare for my second arctic trip
@pauls466 Жыл бұрын
You do a fantastic review. Just one thing Running them on low even all winter long will NOT soot them up if the air to fuel is correct.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I agree, I’ve run mine for 2000 hours and most of that on low. No issue
@TheMajictech Жыл бұрын
I’ve had a warmtoo brand one in my 5th wheel for 3 years, not even so much as a cleaning, trouble free. (Afterburner controller installed about 1/2 way through)
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Similar to me. I have the older Maxpeedingrods heater in the van with a afterburner installed. Not had to do anything to it and it’s got just over 2000 run hours now
@awesomesauce2935 Жыл бұрын
11:23 that filter is probably to go in the fuel tank on the input hose to 1) provide weight to keep the intake tube at the bottom of the fuel tank and 2) filter out course debris that may fall in the tank from getting in to your fuel system.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Could well be, I didn’t try that, but it might be too small for the diameter of the greenhouse.
@chrisstewart4823 Жыл бұрын
No, it's a water separator. Water falls to the bottom and is drain able via the bottom valve. Very common on diesel fuel systems. Fuel tank feeds the water separator/pre filter and then you have a second filter after that followed by the pump.
@awesomesauce2935 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisstewart4823 It very well could be, it looks very similar to a fuel pickup prefilter in a chainsaw which also works as a weight when you change angles.
@zenzen9131 Жыл бұрын
Great review :) with respect to the paper ducting, I would personally have the air intake feeding from air inside the van and just have the exhaust going to the outside :)
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it’s not safe to have the combustion intake from the inside of the van. If you even had a issue with the heater and it’s fan failed or exhaust became blocked there is a risk of exhaust gases coming back out of the combustion intake
@casparv Жыл бұрын
Also you'd be having it move warm air from the inside to the outside, meaning there will be a cold draft from outside to inside as well.
@davidconner-shover51 Жыл бұрын
this lowers the pressure inside the vehicle, introducing drafts, and, more importantly, potentially sucking in the exhaust. most modern heating systems no longer do this at all, bringing in combustion air from the outside for this very reason
@zenzen9131 Жыл бұрын
@@davidconner-shover51 Very good point David :)
@diesel-technology5507 Жыл бұрын
Just seen the casting on the heat exchanger inside it, absolutely no surprise what so ever 😅
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Pretty common to see across many Chinese heater brands is the flashings not cleaned off.
@deathbyninja11 Жыл бұрын
Can you program the fuel/air mixture (fan spd vs hz) like you can with the old controller? I am interested in being able to tune it further and no one has talked about that much on YT yet for these new ones.
@PlatisTobbe Жыл бұрын
SO very good review of this china diesel heater. The app seems to be fast and problem-free. I'll put it on the wish list I think... if I think I can mount it. Thanks!
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think it’s a rather good version to be honest. I guess most people don’t really care, too much about metal casting quality, balancing of internal fan and so on. the far more important for most people is just have a user interface controller & app. That they are both easy to use and of good quality.
@PlatisTobbe Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures Thanks! ☺
@syncrosimon Жыл бұрын
Great video Alex, it is so clear that the Webasto / Eberspacher units are massively overpriced, and a new one of these units you are testing is still cheaper than a diagnostic at a Webasto dealer. It’s the 21St century version of self sufficiency, now you have to mend a nd repair yourself rather than grow vegetables!
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I agree whilst the quality of the western kits is very good. The price is very very high. and doesn’t seem to be able to be repaired by the end user or has a spares which are reasonably priced
@iandennis7836 Жыл бұрын
As I understand, a few years back webasto and eber were fined in total €67m for price fixing, but their prices remain high.....
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Oh wow, thats no small fine!
@iandennis7836 Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures they could afford it......
@micah_noel Жыл бұрын
Damn, I was also hoping it would turn off when at target temperature. I get overheated every night on the lowest setting. I actually duct all the heat towards the cab so it can defrost my windshield hopefully before I get overheated in the back of my van. Hopefully they’ll upgrade that some day.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I was hoping to same as I know a lot what that feature. I did message their hardware team about it, who knows maybe at somepoint they will upgraded it
@easylife6718 Жыл бұрын
Same here ..I'm to hot .its wasting diesel..I'm thinking buy eberspacher
@coreybabcock2023 Жыл бұрын
Get a after burner
@chrisb5839 7 ай бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures The Hcalory diesel heaters shut off.
@MispronouncedAdventures 7 ай бұрын
@chrisb5839 indeed there newer models do, I’m hoping to get one of those to place with. That particular model I think was just coming out when I reviewed this one
@kamikazekunze Жыл бұрын
Heck our Espar was nothing but trouble along with the high altitude modules going out. Threw it in the trash and am running a Chinese unit without issues. 👍🏻
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you had issue with the espar. I’ve not been about to test the altitude stuff. But they advised it does altitude adjustment automatically
@kamikazekunze Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures that would awesome. We spend most of our time between 5,000’ and 9,000’ in altitude. Thanks for the video. 👍🏻
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
No problem! Would be had to test that altitude here anyway! Our highest point in the uk is only just over 4400 feet / 1345m
@Elites-asthetic Жыл бұрын
I went with the super silent pump from James browningsmith absolutely amazing no noise at all any speed it’s in a waterproof box you can screw under the floor
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen quite a few photos and posts about that pump. Impressive looking bit of kit
@Elites-asthetic Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures it’s brilliant mate My diesel heater is under the bed in the garage area of the motorhome so the noise was very loud lol Upgraded to the pump and silent at last 😂 Very fast to prime too
@1898nc2 Жыл бұрын
I live on a 45’ boat and I have two that have run about 5 months a year for 5 years now and I have not had an issue. You just need to make sure to run it on high for a bit if it has been on low to long
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Aye. No Issues with mine. 2 years with about 2000 hours on, no issues when install well and used well
@mikepierce1724 Жыл бұрын
Rust quick them clamps last under the hood of trailer truck in Salt snow for years but is neat
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Yeah the clamps they supply are chap. They hardly clamp and rust in no time
@Rickyclimbschoss Жыл бұрын
Great review, just saw this after purchasing one. Can you send a link for a new fuel lines you would recommend? And mounting plate (turret mount you said?) to put on top of a sub floor for installation? Definitely a neebie here and looking for some advice so I don’t have to redo this installation process more than needed. Thanks again and keep up the videos!
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Fuel lines I used “www.butlertechnik.com” it’s a British company and for turret mount I’d recommend eBay. There are lots of different lengths. So you’ll need to measure your floor depth and then a bit extra
@davelees8022 Жыл бұрын
I used normal rubber fuel line prior to the pump. After the pump the fuel line needs to be narrow bore and stiff to maintain the pump pulses for fuel atomisation.
@charlies418 Жыл бұрын
Top Tip: use marine grade 304 stainless steel jubilee hose clips. More expensive but last a lifetime!
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I’ve swapped to the high quality exhaust clips on my personal heater, far better than the rubbish, which most the kits comes with
@uptowndisco2 Жыл бұрын
Hi my all in one version just arrived today , not yet unpacked or opened so cant give my thought yet , but I did read another reviewer saying the green line is not the normal cheap one that hardens over time , but is an upgraded compound for fuel use , it does have a name but I cannot remember it lol , I do already use diesel heaters but looking forwards to trying this new one , as mine is the all in one heater I have ordered the 230 volt mains to 12 volt adapter but not arrived yet .
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
That’s interesting to hear. I’ve never heard of that before myself do you know is who is Video that is? . Comparison to some of the two-year-old plus green hose reels I’ve got lying around it seems identical in every way colour, texture, softness but if that’s the case and is a new compound / material that is great news, as it’s very easy to work with. I’ve just seen a lot of the other heater kits, dropping the green hose and replacing it with hardline. The Jubilee clips are still rubbish however 😂 But I think it’s a good heater kit overall.
@uptowndisco2 Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures sorry I have watched so many I forget who now lol , I have used in the past the green line it was in use for 2 years without degradation so there might be differing quality supplied in the kits ? fittings , I have a new Lavaner brand heater in the box as well , the supplied fittings for it are all much better with proper exhaust clamps and thicker supply wiring , the Lavaner heaters are priced a bit higher than the cheap ones but cheaper than the expensive ones
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have heard lavaner are considered some of the best in this area quality wise
@kevinjones3900 Жыл бұрын
I got a big syringe and pushed the diesel to the pump. No long wait on prime . Plus the pump does not run dry .
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
When mounting these in vehicles so there is a lot more pipe, I’d pull the diesel through opposed to wait for the priming
@ParedCheese Жыл бұрын
Maybe a gravity feed above the pump would speed up the priming a bit? Just raise up the can until its flowing.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
With the style of a dosing pump, I don’t think it would help too much in the priming process unfortunately. Having a fuel source higher than the pump & heater does has effect in the long-term, but I don’t think it will help too much in priming.
@AJ-qn6gd Жыл бұрын
Nice of the Chinese manufacturers to leave final finishing and quality control to the customer to do !
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Haha yes. I’ve seen many of these heaters, some I find fine, less so. Whilst I was given the unit for review, does it mean I’m gonna give it a good one or not be honest. I thought the quality control on that casting wasn’t great so I made a point of it
@AJ-qn6gd Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures A fair and balanced review 👍🏻 I thought, you really can’t knock these units for the price.
@wilco157 Жыл бұрын
The green pipe is an upgrade..it's not like the old black connecting pipe. Also the steel in tank pickup tube... is useless..! instead of leaving the bottom of the tanks moulded tank output....they have drilled it out .. rendering it useless... Absolutely one of the best diesel heater reviews I've seen ... many thanks 👍
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I’d always seen the steel pipe ups for plumbing your own tanks. the hardware for the moulded tank comes with is inside the tanks
@user-ib7ju5bh8f Жыл бұрын
Hi, I just recently purchased the mxr-1f heater and it work pretty well in heating modes but I cannot find a way to switch to fan only mode. The app also only shows smart mode. What do I make wrong ?
@redkid72 Жыл бұрын
After researching a lot, I came across this video. Decided it was a good idea to try maxpeedinrods out. I never received the diesel heater at all! Think I'll give them a miss and try to order some other cheap Chinese diesel heater
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry to here that is the case, in the past I used their Amazon or eBay stores
@redkid72 Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures I used their website! I'm now back to square one and stuck. Any other heater recommendations
@davids.4760 Жыл бұрын
Du-Bro extra large tygon fuel line for the win. Yellow color, semi clear, very flexible and easy to route, top quality material, 4mm inside. Yes, expensive.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Yeah, definitely swapping to a decent fuel line is important.
@davids.4760 Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures Agreed! This Tygon type fuel line is in common use in the power equipment world, BUT the 4mm ID required is not. I have searched and searched. The only manufacturer that I could find was Du-Bro. I bought a spool of it, but you can buy 10ft lengths from many suppliers. It is used in the hobby world. Worth the cost. I think the hard tube works too, but then you have to use some soft tube for every connection. All those joints make me nervous! Also, the hard tube is really hard to route in tight places. I end up with with loops that hold hold air. I have heard the argument that you need the hard tube to prevent stretching of the fuel line during the pulse. The Tygon line is thicker wall, so less possible issue with that. The fuel run in my system is pretty short, so even the cheap green line never actually caused any issue for me.
@richardwalker5906 Жыл бұрын
Brrrr that water looked chilly
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
What water?
@BinderThomas123 Жыл бұрын
Great review which gave me enough info so I have now bought same. I also powered with a Victron charger as it seem you did in the review, but mine simply shut off the power abd in the display it says 'U 12v'. Have you seen this on your setup?
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
In the off mode I do believe mine also shows U 12V. Did you make sure the Victron unit is set to “power supply” mode and not “charger mode” on the Victron Bluetooth app?
@BinderThomas123 Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures tried this today, but unfortunately not solved the issue, so I will just run it attached to a battery and the Victron charger.
@shawncell1247 9 ай бұрын
the pump first then filter, pump low as you can but just barely above tank just in case of leak . but best for pump to be below tank
@MispronouncedAdventures 9 ай бұрын
Definitely not pump before filter. The whole point of the filters protect everything downstream of it from contaminants.
@nomadchad8243 Жыл бұрын
I've had one in my garage for five years (since the beginning of this nonsense) and it's still going strong. I've gone through 3 fuel pumps buy that's it.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I’m putting just over 2000 hours on my current one and the same. No issues at all. Great units when you get a good version
@nomadchad8243 Жыл бұрын
@MostOfTheInternetIsFake that's two machines one in the trailer one in the garage . One was my fault ,one just stopped working and the other I think got water in it and sat for a season. Yes and no but it's good to have a spare kicking around.
@diesel-technology5507 Жыл бұрын
They don't balance their turbochargers that spin 150,000rpm so balancing a cooling fan is absolute bulls88t 😂
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I did sarcastically say, take it with a pinch of salt. But it’s not the only diesel heater combustion fan I have seen with the same marks / chunks removed
@andrewcordery9052 Жыл бұрын
What was the second thermal camera you were using? The flir phone accessory was a bit disappointing when I tried it and that looked much cleaner. Didn't see it on your Amazon list. Thanks 😊
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
The FLIR will looks disappointing compared to the other unit as it’s a 8 times price different. FLIR units like that one are limited to below 9hz ( 8.7 frame rate ) for export reasons. Thermal sensors with frame rate higher than that count a dual use military / civilian hardware and need a export license to remove from the country of purchase. My second camera is a Puslar Axion XG35 thermal monocular which is 60hz and a lot higher resolution. It’s a waterproof unit, Im still trying to sort the license to take it from the UK. It’s primarily designed for recreational, hunting or wildlife spotting. also has a 5 m minimal focal distance, unlike the flir so I had to stand quite high back
@CallaFab Жыл бұрын
My Ecoflow Delta would not power up or power down my 5k diesel heater. The heater pulled more than 10 amp( up to 14). But it would run it after it was started.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Odd, Ive ran a number of diesel heaters on startup and on the River Pro 12v socket for hours. I didn’t know the delta and pro have a different in the socket . The Pro is a max of 136w ( 13.6v @ 10A ) but looking on ecoflows website the Delta socket is only 13.6v @ 8A ( 108w )
@overlandbyrover Жыл бұрын
follow up questions. how is the range on the bluetooth? do you think if the motherboard and controller are purchased separately, they can be installed on the older model heaters as an upgrade?
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I would of thought if you got the ecu and controller could be swapped if wanted
@tedzehnder961 11 ай бұрын
Casting "flash" can cause those areas to have a spike in temperature as this thin material will be hotter or heat up unevenly.Rough casting surfaces collect residue easier.Don`t know if this would make cleaning more often or not.
@MispronouncedAdventures 11 ай бұрын
Makes sense to me. Some of my heaters do have the flashes cleaned, some don’t
@SuperbikeSurgeryTV Жыл бұрын
The rod is for the plug socket, how else do you think you are going to turn it 🤔
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
You are correct, I have used it a number of times now when stripping heaters. It can also be used to insert the new gauze / atomiser. The previous glow plug removal tools I’d seen you could use a spanner or socket on the hexagon all end of it.
@davelees8022 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I use plastic conduit for the air inlet and copper tube for the exhaust. Next time I will use a 2kg LPG bottle as a fuel tank with a welded in filler and dip tube feed. I used 2 caravan sink outlets mounted upside down to pass the exhaust out through the van floor and bring combustion air in. They are a brilliant bit of kit, mine is now 13 yrs old and running well.
@robot538 Жыл бұрын
Did you have to replace parts in this time? Bearings, pump, etc? And if so how much? Also what brand do you have? Thank you
@SpoonerTuner Жыл бұрын
They need to add a "Frost Mode" to turn itself on and off at set temperatures like the Afterburner controller does. That would be a game changer.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ve been using the afterburner for 2 years now. Could be without it
@Elites-asthetic Жыл бұрын
I just want to comment on this because the Hcalory diesel heater I think it’s the hc-A22 now does this I also have the afterburner My diesel heater packed in and upgraded to this I was told to get by a friend It’s Bluetooth with auto cut off when reaches temps 24 hour timer to 7 days It’s brilliant I have the silent pump fitted that James browningsmith sells Look them up if you haven’t already
@SpoonerTuner Жыл бұрын
@Sean W oh nice! Ya, I wasn't aware of those heaters. Found them on eBay just now. Looks like only the Bluetooth versions have the automatic on/off frost mode feature. I also found another company that has the frost mode feature, and their controller is also Bluetooth but looks different. They use an orange case and the company name is written on the side MAX PeedingRODS
@Elites-asthetic Жыл бұрын
@@SpoonerTuner yes buddy they have to be Bluetooth . My new one is actually 6-8.5kw I have only seen this type on the app Banggood
@Elites-asthetic Жыл бұрын
This price has gone up 50 quid in a few weeks 😳 that’s how popular they have become This guy called David who tests the best heaters did a review on them He said it was his best Since then the sales sold out straight away I did notice the price went down on pre order I have mine on the lowest setting It very effective very hot but doesn’t use much battery on lowest either My best buy to date for the motorhome with the silent pump from James browningsmith Amazing honestly
@nexpro6985 Жыл бұрын
that so-called fuel filter (the blue and clear one) looks like a water trap used for small sprayguns and airbrushes.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I would agree, the mesh on the inside is as about as fine as you the smaller normal inline filter you seen in other kits.
@saeedhossain6099 Жыл бұрын
great video, but that blue filter is a dewatering filter, as diesel passed over water contaiminants should fall to the bottom and can be drained off.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Ah so two jobs in one, water contaminants and Physical Contaminants. Better than the smaller type many of the other heaters come with
@rvvanlife Жыл бұрын
Yes, You, can, buy a whole new unit for the price of the spare parts of the expensive, the problem is, is that you will need to have that spare unit on hand when the installed unit goes bad. In freezing weather, I much prefer the peace of mind from a reliable heater
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I don’t often find reliability to be issues with a good supplier. But I can also see your principal. I know many people have swapped out western brands for Chinese ones and vice versa
@moo3852 Жыл бұрын
I use mine 24/7 for almost 5 months at a time.... 3rd year now
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Good to hear. I use my current one for over 2 years most of the winter. Great units
@mitchellcamps7595 Жыл бұрын
The thing that really sucks about this new heater is that they are no longer compatible with the Afterburner made by Ray Jones. The Afterburner is an amazing addition to the CDH
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree, I have used the Afterburner for 2 years now ( also the reason I haven’t used this heater ) but a ECU Compatible With afterburner is becoming rarer it’s seems with heater
@mitchellcamps7595 Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures You're right, it is becoming hard but not impossible! I found a couple Amazon listings yesterday that look to be compatible, ran it by Ray and he said it looks to be compatible as well.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I’m hoping to find a eBay listing of a individual compatible ECU so I can just order them. To have a back up ECU or two. Preferably the same PCB design to the one I currently have.
@cwalke32477 Жыл бұрын
Do they make these in anything smaller? Say maybe a 2kw unit? I have a small cabin cruiser sailboat, that one if these would be awesome for, but 5kw is going to be bit much
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
There is also 2kw version as well
@ankerjorgen Жыл бұрын
In stead of letting the fuel pump do ALL the priming it´s possible to fill the filter and the hose manually :-)
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Normally I just suck on the pipe till I get a mouth fuel of diesel. If it’s installed in a vehicle and a few metal of fuel line
@patrickday4206 Жыл бұрын
It seems crazy that they haven't made something similar to the afterburner yet as it's really not expensive on a large production scale.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I am also surprised by this. But then again, it might be the van/camper/motorhome market and those who are actually really interested in the very particular options of the afterburner are so minimal in the grand scheme of things, it’s not worth the effort from the production point of view. Or no one has feed back to them.
@hubrisnaut Жыл бұрын
What is the "afterburner"?
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
@@hubrisnaut a custom aftermarket controller project an Australian guy. Add so much incredible functionality to the units, including a perfectly working thermostat, frost mode, remote Internet access and so much more
@hubrisnaut Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures.. I worked on fighter jets in the military so I was thinking it was type of heater combustion using the same principal... lol ...
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Haha don’t worry. My RAF mate also looked at me inquisitively when I named it that. I do agree that the name is somewhat confusing!
@markhowards420 Жыл бұрын
5:45 must have been the fettler's day off.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know that was the name
@Diarmaid1985 Жыл бұрын
Have you had a look at afterburn. You seem to interested in automation do MQTT control would fit well if you went for a full van controll system. My preference isn OpemHAB but HomeAssistant is also an alternative
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
i didn’t mention in the video, that whilst I’m using an old version of the Maxpeedingrods heater im using it with an Afterburner and been using it for almost two years now. Which is the main reason I’m not installing this one, just testing it and having it as a spare. ECU’s which are compatible with Afterburner is getting rarer. For me, I also wanted to see if anything on the market is even compatible to the afterburner yet, it’s not
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
A number of people recently I’ve told me about looking at openhab and homeassistant. I’ve current got a free pi so I could take a look
@Diarmaid1985 Жыл бұрын
Year a good example of the home automation systems is that you can drop the multiple apps and hubs a single ZigBee dongle will control al the 'smart' Lidl, hue IKEA and aqara products and allow rules based on the victron and many other things. Just from watching your videos I think it will be right up your street. Also fantastic videos and super informative. You've done your research!!!!
@user-nt2rn3rx7b Жыл бұрын
One word beats all heaters "Afterburner"
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I know I’ve been using afterburner for two years and don’t plan to replace it Nothing on the market even comes close
@nexpro6985 Жыл бұрын
If a Chinese app demands access to your files, camera, location etc. say no and uninstall it immediately. The Chinese government has access to the data of all Chinese companies. There is absolutely no reason for a heater app to know your location.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Not going to disagree about granting access to unnecessarily data and what happens to data and who it’s used by . The “Location data” on the app is used for weather data. The app is more for home automation than just the heater on its own ( other none heater things can be added ) . Weather data can be used for home automation’s. Or can be disable in the app or in your phone settings for the app
@mikefranks4528 5 ай бұрын
I got an Error 3 after a couple of clicks of the fuel pump. The voice on the controller said to check for a short on the pump, or some type of circuit issue but the book says otherwise. pump was obviously working, so no short or circuit issue there. I checked the glow plug, and all of its wiring is perfect not sure what else it could be; maybe a bad board straight from the manufacturer. just my luck. 😢
@MispronouncedAdventures 5 ай бұрын
Might be a bad board unfortunately. Error 3 I would have thought was glow plug and. Error 4 was pump. How have you tested the glow plug? direct 12v feed?
@ezyjack826 Жыл бұрын
why don't you use an 8kw unit? I'm planning to use a diesel heater or two in my shop that is the size of a two car garage. I'll try one first and see if I need the second one or keep it as a backup. wondering what your thoughts are about an 8kw model? btw, really enjoyed the video. 🙂
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Hey. I don’t use as it would be be way to powerful for my van. But 8kw unit generally they don’t exist. There are a number of Chinese companies which sell a 8kw. But they are a 5kW body just on higher setting ( which is actually based off the eberspacher 4kw body ).
@garysollis5949 Жыл бұрын
Hi . Hope you think about the right tyres or have snow chains now you know what it's like up here .. we are changing ours over in the next week or so ..looking forward to watching your next journey up .. good luck .. are you starting soon or next year .. cheers .
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
No problem with the tyres I’ll be using the same again, however, I might buy a new set of ko2 on the rear as I done 30k with them now, I did 6000 miles in that winter trip with them. The only slips were when it was getting towards spring and warming up and melting and refreezing . If you’re there for the transition period between autumn and winter or winter and spring, the hundred percent studded tyres are needed, way too much ice around. Depths of winter is compressed snow and crushed ice which is covering the roads which is more about the tread on your tyres over studs. I’ll be picking up a new set of chains when I’m up, but even when I got bogged down the van in the deep snow, I had no problem getting out. I’ll be heading up the first week of January. If you are heading up soon, good plan on changing the tyres, what are you looking at putting on?
@garysollis5949 Жыл бұрын
I live up on the Barents sea coast . East Side. Been here since 87 .. along from north Cape towards kirkenes.. Jan and Feb are the worse for storms March April plenty new snow .. Will be watching 👍
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I would also say I’m generally going to be avoiding the coastal areas of the north! As coastal as always more moderate temperatures and more likelihood for ice. More of the interior
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
That being said kirkenes and Vardø where on the potential cards if I’ve got a weather window and I think it’s safe.
@bparker6442 Жыл бұрын
hey Alex, did you ever use this MSR unit with the afterburner?
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Not this particular Maxspeedingrods unit as the ECU is incompatible. My two year old maxspeedingrods unit on the other hand is what I use
@anotherbrickoutthewall9237 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, does the screen of the control light stay on constant?
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
That’s I’m not sure. I’d need to check but I think they are always lit
@anotherbrickoutthewall9237 Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures thanks for the reply I was wondering if it would draw much power as I only have a 100amh battery and don't use it as much as you Vanlifers....
@anotherbrickoutthewall9237 Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures hi I've just finished fitting this heater and the control screen is not coming on.. I have put the multi meter to the power supply for the screen and its reading 0.53volts does this seam Wright and the display screen is broken? Or is there not enough power getting to it? You're advice will be really appreciated.. Thanks in advance
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
0.53v sounds like a fault reading from a loose connection. I’d check all the connections. On the screen but also the main wring loop incase something is loose in the main plug
@anotherbrickoutthewall9237 Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures OK thanks again I'll go check now 👍
@LarsDahlin Жыл бұрын
Nice! If you come by Östersund in Sweden, give me a shout! 🙂
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you, not planned me route up yet for this winter
@LarsDahlin Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures if you aim to drive the E45, don't miss the café Cineast in Sveg. Well worth it!
@scotnorth Жыл бұрын
Great video What make model and price.Thanks
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you, there is a link to the unit in the video description
@Miles7955 Жыл бұрын
Looks pretty decent, though honestly very skeptical about needing to create an account and give them access to your location and WiFi details, for an item that should be competently stand-alone from the internet.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
It is possible just to deny access to location data in the app. The only functionality I can see is for weather data if you want to use automations.
@Meandmissy Жыл бұрын
Hi what does the ventilation mode do does it blow in cold air for the summer and what’s the open and close on the back of the heater do
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Personal it’s not something I’d have a need for. But I have seen people asked about just running the fan many times before. However people might like it for air movement in the van during the summer. Just like running a normal fan in hot weather
@joblessalex Жыл бұрын
The only thing that'd make these worth keeping is a set of real Japanese bearings, a burn chamber design that's easy to clean, or a burn chamber that can't soot up, a glow plug that won't fry and is easy to obtain, a thermistor that won't die, and a control module that's far from the heater so it won't ever fry. Oh yeah, and a silent pump. Brushless low power fan would be baller too.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Burn chamber sooting up more to do with how the heater is used and installation than design. After all, the design is the same as the eberspacher D4. As for control module, Webasto, Eberspacher, Autoterm and Chinese all place to ECU on the heater as hall effect sensor for the motor speed is based directly on the PCB. Wouldn’t mind better bearings
@joblessalex Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures Yeah. That's not great. Having the module right against the heater is burning up the components much faster than if they were far away from the heat source. Moving the module away from the heat and changing to a brushless motor with no sensors would make eliminate all failure points. A design where you could separate the burn chamber with say a single set screw and a 20 degree twist and pull motion to easily clean the carbon would be awesome. Where I live the fuel is super crap. You get maybe a season between rebuilds. A two part design that could easily pop apart to scrape clean would make it unkillable. The thing would last 10+ years or more with all these upgrades. Working on building the ultimate one right now. Should have all that, afterburner controller, and water heater. The heater to end all others. Lol
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I use the afterburner myself on the main heater I have installed in the van best upgrade ever. I always thought having the ECU mounted on the heater was the ultimate failsafe in case of catastrophic failure. Frying the ECU would stop the pulses to the fuel pump. Definitely interested to see how your project turns out
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Curious, how are you doing? Hot water on your project? Downstream of the heater with something like Bobilvans or using the rarer version of the Chinese diesel heater, which has a air and water jacket?
@joblessalex Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures I'm probably going to use the China heater with the water jacket. Have a separate tank for hot water and circulate it through the heater until it's at desired temp. Just using it for showers. Maybe if I get fancy I'll do a heat exchanger and hook it to the engine to preheat.
@MrPaddyelvis Жыл бұрын
Hi, what thermal imaging cameras are you using please?
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I used two in the video. The one with temp data is Flir pro one LT and the high resolution one is a Pulsar Axion 2 XG35
@DonHavjuan Жыл бұрын
Buy cheap buy twice. Yes. That's exactly what you should do when the alternative is spending 5 or 10 times more.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I agree. The prices of the western models are extraordinarily expensive. The option in this case to buy cheaper and buy twice it’s quite an appealing option
@bennystokes8481 Жыл бұрын
hi there do these only work and set up via bluetooth? i dont have an app phone and was hoping to do it via the controller manually? thanks if you can help.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
The Bluetooth part is only a “extra” / add on. You should be able to do all the normal set up via the controller without it
@bennystokes8481 Жыл бұрын
connect a wind turbine in front of the fan for some free electric..you can buy them micro turbines and they can be used in water..heat to electric recovery perhaps.? youve seen them avertised where they throw them in a stream..
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately wind turbine in front of the vent wouldn’t work for power recovery. As the air being moved from is electric motor fan side of the unit
@dannynova3412 Жыл бұрын
The FIRST thing to do to make them better instead of an app is a better fuel line hose .
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I was surprised and disappointed as I said in the video to see the green fuel line. I’ve seen many other brands came with white hardline now a days .
@llspragulus Жыл бұрын
Are you able to turn these so the intake and exhaust sit horizontal versus vertical?
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
You can side mount the unit but from the understand only if the glow plug remains on the top side
@stevee8698 Жыл бұрын
I wanted to pass my exhaust flue through the top of a radiator and out through the bottom of it then outside; all downhill for moisture draining. What do you think ❓
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
For a bit of waste heat recovery? Only issue I could see is the restriction the radiator might cause to the heater exhaust, potentially effecting heaters burn and causing it to spot up quicker
@LostNative Жыл бұрын
I've got the same diesel heater and the LED screen isn't powering up can you give me some advice? I've checked cables, connectors rewired cable to the fuse box. Changed fuse so not sure what to do
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Just seen your Instagram message you sent me I’ll chat to you on there
@LostNative Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures Thankyou Alex 👍🏼
@makuru3395 Жыл бұрын
My experience over 35 years with Webasto diesel heaters has shown that these devices last around 8000 to 8500 operating hours. In the truck of my mobile home, in the trailer and in the Ford van. In the meantime, the third Webasto has been installed in the Ackerman mobile home, built in 1977. I would like to travel with it for another 20 years. I don't buy Chinese firecrackers. my safety is important.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I’m not really bothered by brands ( apart from the Chinese area because there is a wide ranging of qualities. good & Bad ) if I’m honest, I’ve played with Webasto and eberspacher ( I have a Webasto Thermo top V as an engine pre heater, which is an excellent unit. ) but Webasto and eberspacher are overpriced, after all, they did get fined millions of euros in the Europe for price-fixing I have also used autoterm and I personally prefer them above everything else. The Chinese made one’s design themselves is just is the same as the Eberspacher D4 so the design itself is good, and the components usually bearings, ecu or accessories fail. Unlikely to have any type of catastrophic failure. Budget is the more important for the people and normally what dictates what brand they go for. Long-term safety of well fitted Chinese units, I don’t see as the problem, long-term reliability on the other hand is different.
@gabrielsansar6187 Жыл бұрын
i married a chinese girl.. she is both fiery and crackers
@escapetherace1943 8 ай бұрын
it's a diesel engine not a space rocket you goon
@antonispap Жыл бұрын
Do you know how to access advanced settings and change fan speed and fuel injection frequency? Thanks
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I haven’t found the advanced menu with the PIN code like on the older black controllers for tuning . I’ll take a look and get back to you
@antonispap Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures thank you very much! Keep up the good work!
@nystro0m 25 күн бұрын
Is fan mode from air pipe outside van or inside intake on the heater unit?
@MispronouncedAdventures 11 күн бұрын
Recirculating internal air
@iainmel1 7 ай бұрын
Important feature? NOISE ! Hälsningar från Götene, Västra Götaland!
@MispronouncedAdventures 7 ай бұрын
Make more noise or presumably less? Most peoples complaints regarding noise is to do with the pump and it’s ticking. My pump is quite isolated so I hear a dull thud, which I actually quite enjoyed because I know what the heater is doing.
@wshelley123 Жыл бұрын
Useful review yet again Alex. I don't think it really adds anything new from the sound of it. The original heater has a thermostat mode and a fan speed mode. The most annoying feature as you pointed out is that the thermostat does not actually turn on/off the unit - it just controls the fan speed. This would be fine a large space where you need constant heat. But I've found a 30 minutes is more than enough in a transit sized van. I was fed up of waking up cold turning the heater on then turning it back off again when I had dried to a crisp. It sounds like you've also got the advanced controller which I seemed to remember costs around £100. For what it does its probably worth its weight in gold....but just before I bought one I spotted someone has managed to get an Arduino to interface with the heater. Minutes later I had rigged it up had the Arduino controlling heater. The documentation and code was a little bit rough around the edges so I updated it and published some improvements for others to play with. You keep your existing controller and splice in the add-on. The key thing this does is turn the heater off if it gets too hot and restarts it when it gets too cold - simples. github.com/wshelley/Chinese-Diesel-Heater-Advanaced-Temperature-Controller
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t aware of an Arduino-based aftermarket controllers, I do love a good bit of tinker!!. yes, I have a afterburner for mine. So I have all the features could possibly want including the sought after turning off and on via thermostat, however, the Afterburner thermostat in Liner Hz mode is incredible, almost perfectly your target temperature, and possible for automatic shutdown, if it exceeds it, even on the lowest setting. plus lots of other features. Expensive at £100 about two years ago And I only paid £84 for the original heater, but as you said it’s totally worth the weight in gold. The core unit on this heater is effectively the same, nothing groundbreaking there. I would say the robust Bluetooth app ( which is only local access ) is pretty good and new if that’s something people want. However, I’ve never seen a ventilation or fan mode before with no heat on any other Chinese diesel heater, only on Autoterms Going to check out that project !
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Good looking github project. Interestingly, ECU, compatibility issues does seem what is going to become more and more of the issue, the same with the afterburner project, newer heater models are coming out with different ECU’s , which are not compatible. That being said a replacement ECU is only around. £16 on eBay, just need to find the right one
@chasemartin4450 Жыл бұрын
That looks AWESOME! My friends and I had a feeling that the Chinese weren't pulling any crazy encryption schemes or whatnot on their control interface, and this proved us right. Will definitely be putting together a custom controller (or probably just a custom ECU to add native support for an oxygen sensor) when I do my van build.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
There are multiple different communication protocols across the Chinese diesel heater manufactures. The afterburner controller which Ray built only works for one particular protocol which he spent a great deal of time figuring out, that protocol can found on a number of completely different designed ECU’s PCB designs. Best of luck with your project.
@Refertech101 Жыл бұрын
I have heated my house with Chinese diesel for 2 years now, 1 had a fan bearing issue, because I left it too long it took motor out so my fault, so I got new motor put in high quality bearings and now it is in the basement. I leave the atomizer out, they don't seem to do much other than plug!
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
It’s good to hear I know a few other people who have heated houses with them. Good job replacing the fan motor. I see a lot of people does buying the new front half of the unit because they end up cracking the fan trying to replace the motor
@robww5921 Жыл бұрын
Everything seems to be going smart (connected to internet). Maybe a topic for another video, as not sure what else bar victron monitoring / alerts and turning a heater on via internet seem the main use cases for smart (I know you did hue lights). But turning on via internet seems a great idea for me. Unless remote works from 1k away so can turn on when in middle of a long walk etc I don't see point of it. Do you know other heaters which can be turned on via internet?
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Definitely remote access to turn the heater on via the Internet. I think is far more important / useful than a localise Bluetooth app. As far as I know by default and of the Chinese diesel heater is do that at the moment. I can do that with my Chinese diesel heater, but I run the aftermarket “Afterburner” controller. So I have remote internet access. Hopefully one day the normal Heaters will get internet access.
@BinderThomas123 Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures do you know if this model are compatible with the afterburner we can then remote control trough wifi?
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Whilst it’s not been tested, I assume it’s not going to be a compatible board with the afterburner I took it apart and it’s not one I recognise whatsoever. I also posted it on the afterburner group and it looks unlikely
@andrewbarker3210 Жыл бұрын
If it can be turned on via the Internet ... it can also be turned off via same ... but not necessarily by you! In the coming eco fascist world we are sleepwalking into, that feature would allow updating your personal carbon footprint record for automatic carbon taxation, your location, your movements and all your other stuff. Bluetooth control does not need any Internet connection. Bear in mind, this is from China, where social credit scores are the norm and state over reach and citizen control is the norm. Beware these apparently harmless features and treat them like a tax inspector's seemingly innocuous question ... with great suspicion that there's something else behind it which is not in your best interests. They already want a kill switch in your vehicle ..... thinking about it.
@overlandbyrover Жыл бұрын
how is the display on the controller? I have the blue controller with the red lcd remote and the controller display is horrible. can't see it at all unless looking directly at it, and also horrible in sunlight. makes it very hard to mount in the vehicle cabin.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree as I said in the video that direct sunlight outside I had difficulty viewing the screen, internally I didn’t have too much of a problem seeing it
@anoniemnegen Жыл бұрын
I also bought the new version for remote. I like the app, but the thermostat is a waste of money, i ask 5 degree celcius, and it makes 29 !, than i stopped it 🙂 Better buy the cheap one,( and a second one for spare ;-) )
@wallacegrommet9343 Жыл бұрын
How about a brushless fan motor? The QC on the new model looks yucky
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Not taken the fan motor apart before. I know the western brands and the Autoterms use brushless motors. Amongst the Chinese manufacturers there are so many different producers of range quality and Price I’d imagine as a mix of brushed & brushless amongst varying companies I wasn’t particularly impressed of the quality control on this particular casting.
@sil8127 Жыл бұрын
Do you not find your back door seals leak given the carpet is in there?
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
No because I particularly made sure there is no carpet on the metal area which is where it seals. I outlined the door seals areas from the interior before I applied the carpet.
@Plastipede Жыл бұрын
Who were the makers of the better, non Chinese heaters that you mentioned? I couldn't understand when you said them.
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
Autoterm ( was Planar )
@Gmanxie Жыл бұрын
Hi Alex, I seen @urbanvanlife had to use a special hose thing to tap into his fuel tank underneath his Ford transit and he mentioned you have him the tip. Is that something I have to buy separate or will everything to in the kit ready for install straight to the van fuel tank? Thanks
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
It’s a kit you need to buy extra. www.butlertechnik.com/eberspacher-ford-transit-mercedes-vito-fuel-tank-pick-up-e7193-292199017193-p1702
@Gmanxie Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures I have a vivaro sportive 2019 swb. I’d still need a kit for that model van? Thanks mate
@numismatric Жыл бұрын
I see the band aid is off your thumb at the end for your round up, surly the round up should have also said, "but made with totally crap and blood letting aluminum castings." Bend over for you sponsor and I'm shore they will oblige...
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
I do mention in the video the heat exchangers casting clean up was pretty crap, and that I did cut my thumb on it when cleaning the flashings off. Which is poor quality control. I have no issues saying what crap and what’s good in a sponsored video.
@SR20FTW Жыл бұрын
Can these be set up on a timer? Say to come on every hour for a target amount of time?
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
You can set timer for it to come on but I don’t believe you can set A particular duration might be wrong, but haven’t tested that far in timer.
@SR20FTW Жыл бұрын
@@MispronouncedAdventures Interesting. I have a water shed I'd like to keep warm during the winter, but I'd like to to come on for short durations just to keep warm air pumped in every hour or so for about 15 mins.
@vin9976 Жыл бұрын
Hey how can I get the thermostat INSIDE my camper while the heater is 1 meter away?
@MispronouncedAdventures Жыл бұрын
The thermostat ( temperature sensor for the thermostat is inside the controller. Mount the controller where every you like, wires can be cut and extended if need be
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