Chinese Etymology 南 - "South"

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SwedishSinologyNerd

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Greetings scholars! Part two in the miniseries on the character etymology of the Chinese cardinal directions, featuring 南 - "South", but what does the character actually depict?
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:34 Etymology
3:45 Variant Characters
4:26 Writing Tips
6:12 Outro

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@lyuktentiok
@lyuktentiok Жыл бұрын
Since I'm using seal script while writing it's quite interesting that I can guess the origins of some characters just from their form.
@SwedishSinologyNerd
@SwedishSinologyNerd Жыл бұрын
Heh, I used to do that in school to annoy my teachers, glad to see someone else using sealscript!
@lyuktentiok
@lyuktentiok Жыл бұрын
@@SwedishSinologyNerd yeah recently I got a fasciation for the nine fold script seal. That one is the hardest for me to understand. I noticed that it is still used especially by the Taoist priests on different fu talismans and other objects 🤔
@Luis00191
@Luis00191 Жыл бұрын
Nice ssethtzeentach reference at the end. Never remove the social credits meme in the thumbnails, its a delightful light tomfoolery and teasing jab
@SwedishSinologyNerd
@SwedishSinologyNerd Жыл бұрын
I may not be as funny or eloquent as everyone's favorite African Warlord, but I'm a big fan of Sseth and his work, and you know what they say, plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery xD Rest assured I will never stop using cheeky memes, satirizing and critiquing oppressive governance is a time-honored scholarly tradition that's been sadly neglected in the current dynasty...
@frustis
@frustis Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to watch this one once it comes out!
@SwedishSinologyNerd
@SwedishSinologyNerd Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I hope you'll like it! ^^
@shushixu5160
@shushixu5160 Жыл бұрын
Well done! 👍Glad to see you integrate sound gloss into etymology :D
@SwedishSinologyNerd
@SwedishSinologyNerd Жыл бұрын
Thank you! It took me a while to warm up to sound glosses but since I want to give a glimpse into the Chinese traditional psyche as well as the factual origin of characters I decided I'd best start adding it into my vids ^^
@MinecraftRivers2311
@MinecraftRivers2311 Жыл бұрын
Sorry if i’m late, the premiere starts at 23:00 (11:00pm) my time, in the UK, so that’s why I am sometimes a couple days late. Hope you don’t mind.😊
@SwedishSinologyNerd
@SwedishSinologyNerd Жыл бұрын
Not at all! I hope you enjoyed the video! ^^
@MinecraftRivers2311
@MinecraftRivers2311 Жыл бұрын
@@SwedishSinologyNerd 11:00pm is when I am asleep, and then I end up missing that video.
@justaregularslitherwing
@justaregularslitherwing Жыл бұрын
For this character, is there any connection to the modern meaning between "bell" and "south" since 南 was a pictogram of a bell? If not, I'm assuming that it's just a phonetic loan :p
@justaregularslitherwing
@justaregularslitherwing Жыл бұрын
@CosmicComet98 Well uhhhh from what I can tell from other sources, 南's modern meaning is a "phonetic loan" or something like that. But I refuse to think that this character was used as a phonetic loan to mean South for me. Maybe there might be a deeper meaning with the connection between "bell" and "south". Actually in one book that explains about Chinese character etymology, it's explained as "A pictogram of a hanging bell used in south China that gives its name to designate "south"." (from pg. 339 of Chinese Characters by Pedro Ceinos-Arcones). Other than that, I'm curious to know some other theories out there between the connection of 南's original meaning all the way to it's modern one.
@lyuktentiok
@lyuktentiok Жыл бұрын
中寧官話南與男同音也。 南 = nóm 男 = nóm 趣甚🤔 後腳本 其後吾言寧。
@lyuktentiok
@lyuktentiok Жыл бұрын
Now I'm confident enough to share the first part of the conlang project I've been working. The elementary language level book drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-0kIM9Q6SaLcDcjxkZTeLVLZXs_KJYbw 🤔
@SwedishSinologyNerd
@SwedishSinologyNerd Жыл бұрын
Just finished reading, very interesting! Since I'm mostly familiar with Northern Mandarin and (to a lesser extent) Cantonese, the pronunciation felt quite refreshing and novel to me, while the vocab and syntax makes me think of Ming-era vernacular prose, I very much enjoyed your work so far, keep it up!
@lyuktentiok
@lyuktentiok Жыл бұрын
@@SwedishSinologyNerd thank you for the feedback. For the grammar I looked at the Classical Chinese and streamlined it a bit, while for the pronunciation is mostly based on the late Middle Chinese, Cantonese and Some parts from Southern Min language group.
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