irrelevant.

@@cheeks7050 How is it irrelevant?

@@cheeks7050 it’s more relevant for weight lifting. Most lifters can’t actually jump very high.

@@cheeks7050extremely important for olympic weightlifting. Especially since "true" or "max" triple extension isn't really necessary, whats most necessary is triple flexion

@@alexwilliams5587 Yes, triple flexion is good

Now then u know. Their political leaders, astronauts etc are aldo chosen in the same like fashion.

then india should have similar results? or least as much naturally talented people given a chance?

@@jayzee316 India is seeing around 30% of its population in the middle class, with a minimum annual household income of $5,000. In contrast, China has 40% of its population in this category, where a household income of at least $20,000 is considered middle class. India still has 15% of its population living below the poverty line, with an annual income of less than $200. Meanwhile, China's poverty line is set at $350 or less per year, and they have effectively eradicated poverty. India is still developing and i don't think they really plan to allocate significantly to sports anytime soon.

@@andrewwong2377 I see, but to be honest, China was winning lots of gold medals even back in the 80-90s when it was in those financial stages. But I can understand not all countries value the olympics vs spending on ending poverty, good luck to India to focus on what's really important.

it is fair game and mechanism, don't complain Consider all the cheating thing in USA, The last people should complain are Americans.

​@andrewwong2377 Thanks for this you are a dying breed ,a man with facts ,logic and reason .Pour yourself a whiskey on my tab ,Cheers 😊

Times have changed in just ten years? Why have they abandoned a system that worked in 2013? I thought for a second you were telling a story from the old GDR. Real head scratcher.

@@salvadorromero9712 There are still kids at my club, but the quantity and quality is worse. The trainers who picked out children in school are retired. My current coach who picked me is 89 years old now.

@@elomensch9566 its your time to start doing the recruiting yourself

Same happened to me in the mid 90s in Germany, but with Rowing.

Guess you live in the eastern part? Some kind of GDR system?

exactly--what you said is more credible: their household registration would be in Gregorian calendar, but the elderly in their family tend to use lunar calendar, so there are often confusions...Also competitive sports are very cruel, very few ppl can make it to the top, then if you devote too much time training, your chance of passing Gaokao to get in a good university is lowered.

True. Most people here don't even go to the gym. Its purely a pro sport.

@@zwen3763 Depending where you are in China, I see more younger generations go to the gym. At the end of the day, this reflects the economic development. Only under the circumstance you are well fed can you start thinking about hobby like going to a commercial gym. When you see those new Chinese olympians in Paris this year, you know the country is in a better financial status. We now use wind tunnel to improve swimmers' posture in the water. No way we can imagine this 10 or 20 years ago.

I go to gym frequently and quite jacked. But gym bros have no match comparing to competitive lifters. Olympic lifting is a full time job and way more intensive than regular gym training.

This would be AMAZING

In Russia we have some sort of "genetic test" but its pricey and i dont really know, it fake or real)))

For most of us it is unlikely. To some degree it is just the numbers game. Millions/billions of people and only one/few can be at the top. As we narrow things down almost anyone can train to 95% of their potential becoming be a very good athlete, but that is still only 70% of the truly gifted, world class champ is capable of.

I'm on the opposite side where I was gifted with sporting ability but I would have loved to find the sport I was optimally designed for.

@@Thermolizer you gifterd with WHAT ability?

I studied sport science and I found something interesting. For example I had a really low ground contact time (drop jump test) and a very good (but not elite) sprint beginning (10-20m). But after that my time drops dramatically and actually gets really bad (13sec at best, "bad" compared to other athletes). The interesting part is that despite low gorund contact time and a somewhat quick sprinting start, my explosiveness on the court/ field, my jumping ability (vertical, broad..) is actually really bad. Like I actually got an A for ground contact time, but barely passed on any jumping test. On the other hand, I am extremely talented in endurance work. I barely have to train to run an okay marathon for example and can easily run a good one with some training. So I kinda wonder how these variances can actually tell a whole story. What if these kids with good jumping abilty don't end up being that explosive where it matters. In basketball for example I know a lot of guys who have insane jumping ability, but barely have a first step, which is crazy.. but it happens. Of course if you do it like the chinese do, you just invite everyone first and the ones that turn out not so good will be left over later. But you might be missing out on some outlier talent, especially with that huge of a population. But Zach already mentioned this. Anyways, I thought I would add this, maybe someone has something smart to say about this. Lastly I also want so say that I also made the same observations as Mark Rippetoe. Yes, those who are genetically more gifted young, will still be when they're old. Which is important for a sport like Oly, where you can't just master some skills like in Basketball (Where you still need to be a top tier athlete of course, but you can make up a lot if you're not in the literal 0,0001%). The point with the faster learning is also something I observed, but I feel like this might some huge selection bias. Usually the less genetically gifted people either don't even try anymore at some point or don't really try that hard after they see that they're athletically inferior. It's like a negative feedback look of sorts. And for the gifted ones it might be a positive one (There's also those kids who don't do anything because they think they don't have to since they're gifted.. but thats a whole different story).

@@christianor5501 explosive in sprint means just first 20 meters, then - elastic(long achilles tendon rules)

@@christianor5501 basketball jumps from run-up is elastic jumps, thay can have very bad explosive power and jump good

@@christianor5501 Most likely your form for sprinting is just bad. A common error is people trying to get quick steps in the beginning but that just shortens the stride and makes it so you aren't properly reaching your max speed. If you changed your form and training so that the first 20m is more patient and focused on getting to a top speed at 40-45 meters instead of trying to win at 20 your overall time would drop. Also you can be "explosive" but what matters more in sprinting is force production. People will think quick steps equals speed but that's not how that works. If a kid really was explosive, a good coach would transfer that for the sport or activity by teaching them how to effectively use it. There is probably a bunch of things wrong with your form that are holding you back before the genetic or talent part is even an issue.

@user-ii7xc1ry3x actually no that's not what they found. Yes they found that all kids that are explosive stay explosive and kids who aren't won't ever be. The mistake they made was they gave the kids that were better earlier more attention and more work and didn't understand exactly that some kids are late developers and those that are late developers are usually your very best athletes but those kids would have been removed by the system by then because they failed to compete at the highest levels. If you've never read the sports Gene by David Epstein you probably would not understand this. Canadian hockey as well as European soccer have both found out that when they have an age cut off with the years difference those older kids actually become better adult players because they get more playing time is youths

哈，確實如此

Winter break, 20k sessions; I would have to take a moment before trying to lift my arms to the steering wheel.

Agree.

Swimming doesn't put as much wear and tear on the body as something like swimming though

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Probably Doesn't take long for a small kid to get that strong though

@@BradleyGibbs have to disagree in the general, but for these genetic outliers it probably happens super quick for them

@@isaactennant1857 I don't see what you have the freedom to disagree with there. Children can and do squat well above their bodyweight very quickly, as long as they're eating, sleeping and training well. When I sway "quickly", I mean 6-12 months. This isn't subjective, it's an inescapable fact. This isn't exclusive to genetic outliers.

are they given steroids this early?

your head is pretty messed up b/c it's China, ever heard of boarding schools in the old continent and in the US, or wherever? Ppl in China go to schools or trainings that could afford them better opportunities or help them realize their potentials, it's not about survival. Obviously you didn't have the chance to go to a boarding school so you won't understand. Borderline child abuse my a+s😅

you don't even know anyone in the US who went to a boarding school? 😅

It is?

It is actually not a rare thing to find multi-story apartment in rural China. It is kind of a culture/traditional thing. A family can be poor but still spend most of its income in an apartment.

@@heyheyhophoprural in the american sense typically involves vast expanse of [farm]land between homes. Its not uncommon for homes to be miles apart in certain areas of the midwest.

Can't tell if you're trying to say it's a leap ahead or backwards

@@psylee8687 I think what they're saying is that in rural America or Europe, rural areas are made up pretty much exclusively of single family houses. Seeing apartments in rural areas is just a bit of a shock. Of course China has 1.5 billion people so it makes sense.

You think elite Chinese lifters don't dope?

@@acerld519 they definitely do but do you think morris isn’t doping?

@@hansschwartz1480 Don't know anything about him besides the fact he medalled the other day, so I think he's doping, yes.

@@acerld519 well Anyone who medals in weightlifting would be scrutinized especially if they were any nationality besides usa and Europe due to politics and state sponsored doping (Americans use a different system, seemingly just as effective)His 170 plus clean and jerk are pretty indicative. If this kid really never used steroids imagine how much he could lift with them? 190 kg ?

​@@acerld519 doping or not.. them white boys are weak

She was probably bigger than the coach

maybe she was a little thin girl when she was young.

great insight

Any where you go in poor rural areas in China the best buildings are schools…… 希望工程（Hope Project) makes sure about it.

Weightlifters just hate bodybuilders. Infact, everyone seems to hate bodybuilders.

@@thequickwit8174 , sad. :(

@@Flahtort ikr

They have done this for hundreds of years in China, with kung fu . They will start them at around 5 years old .

Do not believe that woman, real Chinese does not speak that kind of English 😂

It is never a ticket out of a hard life. Just a different kind of hard.

And PingPong is a much harder path than Weightlifting in China, you have to compete with insane talents and hard work won't make a difference because those talented work just as hard if not harder. You can be the best of the best of your province and then you meet say FanZhendong and couldn't even score 5 points, imagine the mental blow.

There’s no free lunch. The world champions or elite athletes, they pay the prices

Do you think other countries dont do this too? where do you think Gold medals come from? This is much better than playing games in the basement everyday, although there are injuries and mental concerns, in the end the benefits are insane because you get showered with riches if u win gold for China

Your feeling is correct. In the eyes of East Asians, Westerners develop very early and age very early. An 18-year-old East Asian is about the same as a 12-year-old Westerner.

City parents are gonna fight the coaches LOL.

Yea I saw a video of pan zhanle hometown in a video 😂

I think it’s just caloric restriction combined with super heavy training. If you don’t have enough body fat and extra calories, you don’t really develop

It's really easy to make a person be very small with caloric intake. Compare the average height of the Dutch in the last 2 centuries. Of course, the Dutch had the genes to be tall, but without the food, they never got tall. That's somewhat general for humans of all ethnicities.

because your athletes injecting too many drugs that's why they look old

Google eteri tutberidze, Russian figure skating coach , she has a similar program where a 15 year old in the Tokyo 2020 olympics got caught for doping

I’m American, and think the obsession with birthdays is kind of crazy. At my work, people take the day off on their birthdays. I understand the need for record keeping, but I think the African cultural idea about birthdays is better.

@@BGeezy4sheezyAge is a very good gauge for mental maturity on average. If you did it just on physique you are gonna treat some 12 yo’s like adults and that isn’t right. People taking off work for birthdays is weird though and isn’t very common in the US.

The way the phrased it was, that the kids didn't know what year they were born. I think the same could be said of many young americans. They know how old they are, their birth day, but not their birth year. Strangely the psychological disassociation of the two continues into adulthood, but flips. Then it becomes "rude" to ask someones their age and many won't answer, but the same person will freely and proudly announce what year they were born.

Imagine thinking celebrating a birthday and taking days off of work to celebrate is weird. I think not celebrating is sad.

@@kevinburke1325I’m American and I think it’s weird unless you’re a little kid or there’s a milestone like driving at 16. It’s just another day I’m not that special 🤷🏻‍♀️

To maximize their number of medals, China choose specific olympic sports to invest in. They choose their sports based on characteristics like "unpopular", "skill oriented".

Olympic excellence is still seen by the Chinese government as a way to project power and build international prestige. It’s no surprise that typically the best weightlifters come from formerly communist countries, who invested in certain sports as basically part of the Cold War

Probably the return on investment isn't on their minds. They just focus on winning, and if they can't, they aren't gonna even start trying.

They use the Soviet screening selection process. and the Soviets were OGs at this

A chance to escape poverty ? Sign me up

Its all the Soviet legacy for sport selection. You'll find the same processes in all countries that had some Soviet connection and didn't destroy it.

You want short legs, long torso, and long arms specifically for wrestling. So it’s kinda a niche bodytype resembling a gorilla lol

Barkley wasn't specialized for basketball, but he was a very good athlete very early on. These late bloomers have always been good athletically, they just needed to meet the specialization markers. Michael Jordan played baseball, Giannis Antetekounmpo played soccer, Shannon Sharpe played basketball, and so on. Since weightlifting actually favors shorter appendages, there probably won't be a "late bloomer". If anything, somebody getting a sudden growth spurt would probably be a bad thing.

Usually the ability on either are correlated

It's music from donkey kong games I think :D

At 1:45 I explain where to find it. It’s on instagram