THISSSS!!!!!! There’s something very refreshing about someone embracing all of who they are. 🥰

@@Prestelle I agree and your parents, social circle can help or hinder this process✌🏾

Her hair is not 4c btw.

@@genevaxo Have you seen her hair fully dry without product? If not then you don't know her hair type. She has a small afro in her other videos. Her hair is stretched in this video. I have 4c hair and I know how different it can look depending on products and stretching.

@@retronativ854 She literally said in her videos that she doesn't have 4c hair💀💀 You can only type hair when there's product in it to see the curl pattern. Because all type 4 hair practically looks the same without product. She's a clear 3c/4a. Stop thinking dry hair = 4c hair, it's ridiculous.

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THISSS!!!!

That is exactly right

Girl she is black fishing she doesn’t have 4c hair lmao. There are chemicals out here that turns straight hair into kinky hair! Do you realize in all of her videos she never shows the roots of her hair. Y’all getting played she’s a white woman😂

Bottom line she is a women wearing her hair how she wants. Her race doesn’t matter.

I see a black girl, we light to dark, dark, and darker in my family I don’t assume everyone that looks like her is biracial.

​@@WW-kw3rt I do think in the black community, we tend to be a lot more lax for who we consider a black girl vs a black guy. She does not look black, and that is ok. If her hair is straight, she is white passing. If her hair is in its natural 4c state, she looks biracial. As a community, we def should stop accepting everyone as black. Anyway, she is a beautiful woman :)

@@msgirlevev9350 It's not up to you or any so called community to "accept" anyone as black. If the girl has black blood in her which she does, she is black. Yes, she is part white & can absolutely also own that part of her. She does NOT need you or any other person dictating where she is "acceptable". For f%#k's sake, this is another human being that you are regarding as an object. She does not need your acceptance to be what she actually is. Get over yourself. 🙄

@@hummingbird4335 I absolutely do not see her as an object. Watch CHRISSIE's channel if you wish to understand my viewpoint. I'm not "getting over myself" because my viewpoint IS to do with my love for black women. Like you, and for most of my life until recently, I used to accept biracial as black until I came across Chrissie's channel and saw the damaging effects of the one drop rule and how it plays a role in colourism, texturism, and featurism. It's already not about me. My earlier comment was about the black community as a whole. The one drop rule is toxic. As I said before, biracial =/ black and that is fine. She is a beautiful, biracial woman with beautiful 4c hair.

I agree! This is beautiful 😍

@@BlasianTingz Good Morning and Happy New Year 🥳 I find it weird. I’m fully aware, I just don’t agree with that reaction. Have a lovely day. ✌️💛

@@earthgirl7874 thank you lovely 💛

The comment I’m about to make doesn’t apply to Joy El! So please don’t apply this to her. But a lot of black people get upset because non-black people like to steal our culture and not give credit. African Style Braids(cornrows, Senegalese, Box Braids, etc) are apart of our culture. I find that a lot of non-black people will wear the styles but be disrespectful to black people or wear the styles and not give credit to our culture and gaslight saying we are not the originators of box braids, cornrows, etc. It’s the style of braid and culture that they tend to be disrespectful toward. For example, I’m not going to wear Indian garments/jewelry and be disrespectful to them or act like they didn’t originate the style of dress. It’s rude and distasteful and I see that a lot of non-black people do that toward us and I don’t like it.

​@@Bv3276That's an interesting perspective!

honestly i didn’t have this experience as a dark skinned black girl for obvious reasons, but when you’re considered the “oreo” black girl because you don’t fit the stereotype as to what a black woman should act like, we have similar experiences

I had this same experience. I’m not mixed. I’m not even light skin. But I feel like I have the mixed girls experience. Bc my hair is curly and I got features “look foreign” or “look mixed”. Lol. I feel like Black Americans especially have a very narrow view of what blackness looks like. Africa is a huge continent. Plus, black and/or Africans in the motherland and in diaspora all have varying histories although some similarities. We all aren’t going to look exactly the same. And we all don’t look the same.

​@@orange300-ct8fcAfrica is a large continent with many different phenotypes/hair textures. Egypt, Sudan, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Kenya are all African countries. All natives of these countries are African. Yet, can and do have different phenotypes/hair texture. A history class about the continent of Africa can be beneficial.

@@celesteporter2918 Anti-African delusion about the African phenotype could be beneficial to you also, Africans, largely do not have a hair type outside of type 4. Please, let's leave this 'we're so mixed' to the blacks in the Americas, we don't need this cancer among Africans. And spare me about the Horners, they are racially mixed with Arab.

@@celesteporter2918 Don't add Arabs in the north to native Africans. Same as whites in the South. Those are immigrants.

I am bi-racial a similar mix (mexican and black)as you but both my parents are American. I was raised by my mom who is Mexican but we were not near her family or any other Latinos. Towards the end of highschool, I became obsessed with Latino culture and wanted to know and learn about that side of me. I joined clubs, majored in Spanish, was interested in Spanish language music and dance and still love it to this day. I feel I was accepted by the Latin community at school, but I never was able to feel a connection to that part of my culture. I honestly don't feel much of a connection to either side. I kind of stopped trying and am trying to be myself.

I've always thought that school children should be taught at an early age about human genetics 🧬 The school could do a lot more and moving society forward when it comes to "race"and identity. They probably need to make it a requirement in school and start teaching it starting in elementary school so these kids can go back home and teach some of the ignorant family members about the University of humankind and you can't "judge a book about its cover." Science & Biology classes would clear up a lot of ignorance. My middle school and also my biology class in college went over genetics and how different traits from different parents pairing up together can have an infinite variety of offspring. When it comes to Black, Latin X and white people in America we're so color conscious & hair conscious and so judgmental about people we know nothing about...

Who are these race Gatekeepers?!!! Pay them zero attention!

Lol that's a great idea!

talking about gatekeeping while granting her the right to this style because her mother is black. how generous of you. Tibetan women have been wearing braids long before America was a thing and they have no knowledge of African hairstyles. Blk culture is more than hair, but black women have told the world that it is our biggest weak spot, so of course we're going to get tested on it, every chance anyone gets. It's really not that deep, but blk women have screamed to the world that it is. To be high strung about how someone else wears their hair and the praise is asking for the high blood pressure and early death worrying about such trivial bullshit will inevitably bring.

@@lynnmitchell7378 We were told that we were dirty and nasty and all that stuff from day one. You can't force people to like you, accept your look or think that you are beautiful. Having your own shit protects you from constantly seeking external validation from people who have never liked you, don't have to like you, may never like you, and aren't obligated to think you are pretty.

@@theprimitivista "If a white man wants to lynch me, that's his problem. If he's got the power to lynch me, that's my problem. Racism is not a question of attitude; it's a question of power". - Stokely Carmichael. It goes deeper than like or opinion, it's about systemic power. I don't think the collective Black woman has ever cared whether we're "liked" or not, but most of the hate and prejudice lodged against us has stemmed from or resulted in real life systemic oppression. And when we've made attempts to build or establish our own it has either been appropriated or sabotaged. Sure we keep on keeping on, but the frustration is real and we have the right to vocalize that frustration.

What do they say or do that makes you think they are jealous?

I wouldn't call it jealousy. Thin 10 inch hair is nothing to be jealous about. Anywho, a lot of black women have disdain for unkempt hair and may think your hair is not done, hence the side-eying. I've been asked all my life, "When are you going to do your hair?" and side-eye for wearing basic buns/ponytails without weave/wigs and baby hair. My hair, my decision, but I wouldn't call it jealousy.

Don’t think they are jealous of you, personally. There is a negative narrative that black women are jealous of biracials, when that usually is not the case. Usually, they idolize them. Just wanted to let you know!

@@jesusmywholehaschanged Firstly, she didn't say that she had "thin, 10 inch hair." She said that her hair was thin, due to medication/relaxers, so she grew out her natural hair which is now 10 inches. Secondly, if she feels that people are jealous of her, then that's how she feels 🤷🏽‍♀️

@@mellamobrittney And if I FEEL like leaving a comment, I'll leave a comment. 🤷‍♀️ Feelings aside, there is nothing wrong with showing someone a different way of looking at things. Just because someone hurts your feelings doesn't always mean they are jealous of you. It is also a red flag to hear another poor innocent biracial trope where the black girl meanies were soooo jealous of her. Whether it was thin and breaking at one point and ten inches at another point, neither of those would make anyone jealous. I totally believe she was side-eyed; That's usually a sign of making fun of someone, not being jealous.

Totally agree 💖💖

Actually in 1964 the one drop rule ended but even before that we were not called black until the racist Jim Crow laws. You shouldn't want anyone to follow a racist law.

If you look at history you will see that there is lot more to it.

@@hollychaney5820 Agreed! It is ok for a biracial person to identify as biracial. They don't have to pick a side.

I don’t think it’s insecurity more than it’s just they’re trying to preserve what little culture they have left after slavery and generations of being stripped from their original African culture happened. I do think black people should be more open minded toward biracial but I can see how it’s hard because in the past biracial people have completely taken over their spaces(not by their own fault). But since they’re praised in black culture for their hair or features, it’s tough. I do think they should have their own space personally. I do think they should be allowed to wear black hairstyles also. 🤷🏽‍♀️

My goodness, of all of the things the lady could have asked in the emergency room desk, it was about your hair. Good grief. I don't understand people.

I feel you! I have had long hair all of my life and I always have been accused of having extensions. I just ignored the haters all through middle and high school. We need to learn to ignore the haters! Their opinion does not matter!

@@deva190 Yes, exactly! That is the first thing that she asked me. All I could think is, "Not here, too. I came here for help, and she is concerned about the hair that grows out of my scalp." I remember the incident like yesterday.

@@taquinmcmullen6490 Amen to that! Once we ignore them, their words have no power over us! ❤

They tend to know. My Dad has Spanish ancestry and they seem to tell with me although I think I look fully black.

Stop explaining who you are. You don’t owe people an explanation. They should except you however you look. We are all one race. The human race.

Then maybe ppl can stop asking questions like “what are you?” . I’ve been asked countless times in my life & my friends have never been asked. I know I owe nobody an explanation but ppl just curious, not trying to be rude but it is. I now say a child of god, which infuriates some or alien which also gets the look lol. Also, In hs I was asked if black vs what are you. It was a black group of girls so I said mixed and they like no your black. Ok only to say no your not. Ok so what am? It’s a life only some mixed girls can understand I guess.

@@motherearther218 lol exactly. It's the people who says "no, you're not" or "don't lie" when you're explaining your ethnicity. Like, why do you even ask? Just to prove yourself that you're right? I also get more sarcastic the more people ask, it's just funny seeing their reactions haha

Exaaaactly! This comment right here is key: “Preserve what little authentic identity we have”. We are trying to preserve what little sliver of Afro centric culture we have left. I noticed more and more white people are wearing our hairstyles and often time being disrespectful or profiting off of our culture. Then when we speak up, we’re gaslit. And told that we wear straight blonde hair weaves. Very very frustrating.

It's weird to me you don't realize Native Americans and Europeans, specifically Celts have also worn braids for thousands of years.....

@@caitlinsoliman1658 I’m aware that other cultures wore braids - we don’t own that hairstyle. My point is that for many years it was not a societal norm for us to wear our hair in braided styles and curly fros until it’s trendy and cool. It’s been happening for decades. Hair is just ONE example 🥰

@misstravelnursebabe6607 I love everyone but I will say I grew up in a black beighborhood and went to a majority black school and the black kids were very openly racists towards me, other white kids and the few Asian kids....and so we're some black teachers. It was almost accepted and not hidden, I think all the racial tensions are very Dad. White people do Co opt certain styles without acknowledging where they came from at the same time if a black woman wears blonde hair or relaxer I don't interpret her as wanting to be white...people usually like whatever they don't have. **not always. I like your comment but many black people DO think only Africans wore braids and that's just bizarre if anyone was to do a cursory Google search into other cultures. We all come from Adam and Eve so I find it very sad all the racial tension although I know it's real.

@@caitlinsoliman1658 you are ABSOLUTELY correct 🩷 and I am very sorry you were mistreated by people growing up. That’s really sad to me. I LOVE people and I pray we ALL get to the point of RESPECT for each other. And Yeah and no race of people OWN any hairstyles BUT some people definitely do/say/act/dress in ways that aren’t genuine but profitable. 🩷

That’s because some biracial people don’t identify with either race that they are. It’s the same reason why some biracials identify with only one of their races. Racial identify is personal, so while biracials are technically both, when you ask are you x race and y race, they take it to mean “what race(s) do you personally identify with”? Not “what races are you”? Which makes sense because depending on where a person is raised, and who is raising them, they will develop their own racial identity that may not make sense to others, but it makes sense to them because of how and where they were raised.

@@tiahnarodriguez3809 & see I’m such a literal person that I wouldn’t even think about any of that lol I never thought of it as more of a loaded question.

Why is it so hard for folks to understand that a biracial person is a whole person?🤦🏿‍♀️ It's really not that complicated. Biracial is an identity all by itself.

I wish I could be this confident my dad is black and my mom is white and last time I got box braids I got ridiculed by a group of teenagers in sams club im 36 years old. I have never worn them since.

@@aprilc8982go get your box braids! Who cares what others think!! You look beautiful in that thumbnail!

Actually we are not only black so I say it all the time no I'm not black I'm black and White Biracial and I never understood why black or white people care or get offended by this. Really its very respectful for us to acknowledge we can never be black and not try to take black women's place.

Biracial people are what they are…biracial. They are not black nor white. Claiming to be black is ignoring your white ancestry too. They should be proud to be both.

I have an issue with people such as yourself who can’t seem to understand that embracing mixed race women doesn’t mean pretending that they are only black, which does a huge disservice to monoracial black women representation.

@@hollychaney5820 My comment was not intended to say that individuals are not the other racial identity (or identities) they are. It was only to say that I, personally, view multiracial people with Black ancestry as Black as well as White, Asian, etc. If I focus on race, I see people as what they tell me they are. My comment was jsut to say that I don’t think non-multiracial people should deny multiracial people the right to identify as apart of the Black community as they are a part of it just like they are any other community. I did not clarify that in the comment so I wanted to clear that up. But, that’s just my opinion. I respect yours (especially as you have personal experience with it) and will always refer to people as what they tell me they are!

@@AwkBlackGirl truthfully most black people who want mixed race to be labelled accordingly arent saying that. They are saying it is disingenuous and a misrepresentation to label them as just black. You see this in advertising and entertainment all the time, mixed women portrayed solely as black women. Mixed kids portrayed in black families with two black parents. Like come on. It goes far beyond just identity politics and it’s the constructed narrative surrounding once again biracial women and their identity in black communities that are being in question. Men seldom are subjected to this. So this is not mixed race problem as it is a mixed race women issue.

I embrace myself. Almost 40 So I care less what others think. My kids fully pass but I so get what it’s like to not be accepted. I’m not white or black enough but just being me is often an issue too. People just don’t get how they treat others is insensitive.

I'm so sorry you went through that. 😔 Please don't let that deter you. Kicking you out is absolutely disrespectful and they should have at least seen or looked at your hair texture so they can help you. Very unfortunate behaviour and it does seem to stem from ignorance. Don't give up on your journey. 💕

Right. I thought so too. Her mother and father are perfectly balanced in her features.

exactly

Amen! ❤

black people, black women in particular put relaxers in their hair to be more acceptable. It is a known fact that black women are more desirable to even black men when their hair is relaxed. Watch the numerous youtube shows of black women speaking on the type of men they attract when their hair is natural. Black women, until recently preferred black men, but when black women had their natural hair, black men shunned them and non-black men accepted them. Many black women still desire black men. it is also really expensive to have one's hair braided, put in protective hair styles. Black women also relax their hair when they want to look less intimidating at work. Do not be ignorant of the plight of black women.

Exactly

Right? The one drop rules is hideous and has no place in a tolerant society.

It’s honestly disturbing how the idea of “racial purity” has been creeping back into the black community. Especially since black people can exist in combinations outside of the considered typical dark skin, dark eyes, and dark hair. I’ve seen black people with skin whiter than a white person’s, gray eyes, blue eyes, blonde type 4 hair, slim facial features, straight hair, all sorts of in-between shades, etc. We are so diverse that it saddens me that some members of community believe they have authority over who can and can’t identify with their blackness. I remember one KZfaqr identified as black, had black parents, and grandparents on both sides, but because she did a video on her dna test results (this video was done when dna test videos where popular on KZfaq), and it said she was 47% black, there was an uproar in the comments telling her she wasn’t really black, so she shouldn’t identify as black. She had to turn off the comments section because of how bad the comments got.

@@tiahnarodriguez3809 My two cents? I've been in a lot of black & multiracial spaces online stretching back to the early 2000s when I was a teen, where I 1st started seeing these sorts of abusive, hostile attitudes where the 'parameters' of Blackness was being narrowed. I'm mixed b/w & have had people try to verbally fight me time after time after time about what I am, even *demanding* that I refer to myself as 'white' instead of *mixedrace*, the entirety of what I am, some even going on the digital warpath against me, bullying & harassing me & my family. Back before KZfaq was even a thing, a number of people on early social media were quite literally so triggered over me even mentioning I'm part African-American & mixed, they would start tormenting, threatening & intimidating me over simply being what I was & not calling myself what they insisted I call myself, which inevitably was based in ignoring a part of my own family lineage. I've come to the conclusion that many people over the years have likely been invading POC spaces, were & still are in digital blackface over the internet, a lot of racists who don't like the existence of racially mixed/white passing people of African descent. There's actually bigots who specifically hate people of mixed race repping their Blackness. Maybe because it increases African-American solidarity/ political power because of numbers. If mixed people are identifying more with blackness over whiteness, that gives more numbers, influence & power on a demographics basis to the Black community & doesn't exactly help white interests, LOL. Not everyone imo, is Black pulling these stunts. A lot of 'others' have invaded channels, forums, various online mixed communities time after time, I've seen a lot. Discernment is needed whenever anonymous randoms pop up abusing, disrespecting & attempting to propagandize people of mixed b/w heritage on social media. I NEVER trust a person who thinks they know more about the ethnic heritage of a stranger, taking it to the level of telling them who they are. People like that, no matter what race they are, usually always have some kind of agenda.

@@tiahnarodriguez3809 these kind of comments mean well but go off the rails very quickly. First of all this subject always mostly focuses on women, how come mixed race men are not as represented when it comes to black male representation as mixed race women are when black women are concerned. Why is it when the subject of black racial identity comes up it largely focuses on women. Second of all the idea that there can be no parameters when it comes to identity even black racial identity is nonsensical and ludicrous and counterproductive, if black people can be any shade any color and there is no legitimate definition of who is black and who is not then how were racial classifications created at all? Why does white and black, etc…exist how did black people even get labelled black? There can be acknowledgement that mixed race people have black lineage and very much part of black history and black communities worldwide and simultaneously acknowledge that they are not solely black and cannot be viewed solely through that lens. Why is that so hard to understand? Also you are expecting black people to have no parameters on their identity yet every other racial group have parameters on theirs how realistic and how fair is this really. Or because black have had the history they have they are not entitled to draw some parameters on who is part of their in-group? Like what you are saying makes absolutely no sense. And I am appalled that people keep touting this like it is remotely sensible.

Darn, I already took them down but the key is to go slow so that you aren't yanking on your hair or making it more tangled :)

That's a great description. 👏 Blacks people's #1 unique feature is the hair

Interesting.