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CW are continuing to head in one direction, and that direction is north! In some ways it is a shame that they are drifting away from their affordable roots. But in other ways it is a pleasure to watch them produce innovative pieces like this, that still undercut the competition by big margins. Cheers, Jody
@Jrdoesitwell 25 күн бұрын
Never got the appeal of the skeletonized look in general. A clean, simpler design is so so much more satisfying to look at.
@brian_belanger 25 күн бұрын
It is just good fun to see the machine in action sometimes.
@RJ-cq8dd 25 күн бұрын
So so much more boring as well.
@tivobelievo7390 25 күн бұрын
Yeah, but when you've already got over a hundred "clean, simple" watches, you need some spice. Plus, this thing is just a marvel. I'd prefer it in steel though.
@GeniusInventor-dj5zc 25 күн бұрын
It’s nice to have a skeletonized watch when every other watch you have is a normal design
@Megatraum504 25 күн бұрын
exactly. i have same movement in my CW watch with a proper dial. costed less than half......
@polmacliam2444 25 күн бұрын
The logo on the rotor reminds me of the name labels my mum sewed into my sports kit when I was at school!
@MrShoryuken1 24 күн бұрын
Yes, it's much too loud. They'd be better off making it smaller and just engraved into the rotor with no paint.
@NicholasSadlier 25 күн бұрын
CW CEO Mike France said on Monday that the micro-adjust would filter down to the regular Twelves. I think you're right re brand positioning, a bit like upmarket car manufacturers pushing the boat out on the F1 race track - it's more about brand-building than selling big numbers of these particular watches.
@BenGoodbrand 25 күн бұрын
Great news! Planned to add a SS Twelve to the collection so I'll wait until then
@9BallSlim 25 күн бұрын
Not my bag of crisps, Mate. And a bloody expensive bag at that.
@gerardcampbell3981 25 күн бұрын
Have to admit I spent the first couple of minutes deciphering your T-shirt, Jody! This watch isn't my jam but each to their own, right?
@MxRoski 25 күн бұрын
Literally 15 seconds for the T shirt, but its a niche skill - I am sure you are far more successful in general life and have a better watch collection than me my friend. My own collection fav is a Vostok Amphibia 42mm on a NATO,(I dont have a 7inch wrist) I also have mutliple GShocks my fav being a green GD 400. As you say each to their own. CW for thousands, not so much. Peace to all, whatever your watch brand preference (I hear Erebus are up and coming - I'm waiting for their field watch )😀
@briteppr62 25 күн бұрын
@@MxRoski15 seconds to decipher it is about right.
@robertbeirne9813 25 күн бұрын
Took me a minute or two, then I realized a 7 is a T.
@damianosavraammisaelidis9727 25 күн бұрын
Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.
@stephens2r338 24 күн бұрын
@@damianosavraammisaelidis9727 Quote by Stephen Hawkins
@WatchesBeAwesome 25 күн бұрын
Love your content! Thank you!
@redflag4781 25 күн бұрын
It's a bloody, expensive full stop. We are in the real world, no?
@GavinKohAquascaping 25 күн бұрын
On a different note, I like your new black, textured background over the world map. Very professional, which, of course, you are!
@Scott_Graham 25 күн бұрын
Great shirt.
@pzwolski 25 күн бұрын
I do not want to adapt. I can, but I do not want. 😁
@fahadkhan-db6bh 24 күн бұрын
Such a clasp adjustment is also available on the Czapek Antarctique 😉
@CraigG21 24 күн бұрын
Hallelujah to the butterfly clasp adjustment!! 🙌 Zodiac also has something very similar on their jubilee style bracelets.
@octagon_009 24 күн бұрын
Cool T-shirt Jody!
@kendallgtull1592 25 күн бұрын
It's a really nice piece and the quality when you hold it in hand is obvious. I had the opportunity to handle it at Intersect Atlanta last month. Price is spicy and it makes me realise how much of a bargain the Zelos Mirage was when it launched. That was around US$4K for the titanium version on bracelet and included a fitted rubber strap. It also featured a hardness coating on the case and bracelet and has the LJP 8 day power reserve movement customised for Zelos. The Twelve is a great watch but I think I'd go with the standard versions.
@artswri 25 күн бұрын
Nice skeleton. Out of my price range unfortunately...
@Mike-DuBose 25 күн бұрын
Cool watch, great shirt!
@Jpjc474 25 күн бұрын
I absolutely love this. Great review as well.
@JRGRAY-33 25 күн бұрын
Looking forward to your review of the CW quartz chrono 👍🏾
@michaelrobinson4421 25 күн бұрын
Jodi, I love the T-shirt, where'd you get it?
@IOSALive 25 күн бұрын
Just One More Watch, Subscribed because your videos are so much fun!
@JustOneMoreWatch 25 күн бұрын
Thanks you very much and welcome!
@Robespierres_Ghost 25 күн бұрын
Very cool watch but no I'm not paying $5k for one. A grey market Oris pro pilot skeleton is around the same price.
@nicksims2827 24 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed this video - both the review and the ‘Jody Thinks’ at the end 🙂 FWIW, I totally agree - even to the point that I think this is the equivalent of a concept car rather than a watch they intend to sell in any volume. This is all about CW repositioning. I bought a C60 Sapphire 3 years ago (great watch btw, I love it) on a bracelet for £795. That was a standard CW price at the time. Now, a C60, C65 or C63 is much closer to £1000. They’re definitely after Longines etc and, when you look at their branding plus engineering, I suspect their long term goal is to move up towards a kind of Tudor £3000 level - though they’re clearly not there yet. I definitely think that CW can’t really be described as a microbrand now, there’s nothing micro about them
@markwheeler4417 25 күн бұрын
Someone on the CW forum managed to do a guestimate calculation on the number of C12X that were in the initial ordering frenzy. Their estimate was 600. That's quite a lot of SH21 movements as it has mainly been used in LEs. The machine polishing must have helped them as the C60 Concept which was the previous skeleton from CW was an LE of 300.
@rstm13 24 күн бұрын
Jody keeps demonstrating the gold standard for a watch channel. Such an honest review, especially the backend of the video was very fair and balanced.
@joeblackwolf17 2 күн бұрын
That’s a beautiful looking piece.
@emeenattoor 25 күн бұрын
Very fair review! I think instead of comparing this with the zenith like many others compare this to. I'd compare this with the Zelos Mirage 2. Honestly they are both well reputed microbrands. The design on the Zelos wins for me: it is more in sync with brand design language The skeletonization is more legible Longer power reserve with 8 days The titanium case has a hardness coating which makes it as durable as SS if not better The Swiss movement by LJP is equally well finished. Lume is Superior.8 Having said all this, I'm glad Christopher Ward is experimenting so much with new stuff. I just hope they don't price themselves out of what I think they should remain; a good value microbrand offering high end products at a relatively good value
@joebasford3319 24 күн бұрын
How much!! 😮 Hopefully no QC issues when you receive it. Good luck with getting in touch with Customer Services.
@whichwatch5651 25 күн бұрын
Jody, your shirt game is improving consistently these days.
@MrKayDeeJay 24 күн бұрын
Love this design however struggling with this price for a CW
@azri79 25 күн бұрын
It's a beautiful watch with cosc movement. But maybe at same price bracket I'd go for zenith skeleton instead
@joshprice333 24 күн бұрын
Hey Jody, may want to check the Aussie dollar conversion. Reckon you’re about $1,400 short.
@ChrisDeLosSantos 13 күн бұрын
The VC Overseas also has the micro adjustment system on their butterfly bracelets
@IOSALive 25 күн бұрын
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@terrysky83 25 күн бұрын
Brilliant roasting by Jordi 👍 bravo 🎉
@JustOneMoreWatch 25 күн бұрын
I would not have said that was a roasting! Just an honest assessment of a $5000 CW.
@TheFrankm3 25 күн бұрын
This watch doesn’t need roasting. Just a photo and the price will suffice.
@stephenspain9167 25 күн бұрын
interesting but I think if they go this route that need to make the mechanism more artist
@moneymikz 25 күн бұрын
An adjustable B Fly is huge indeed
@alfieakaronaldog 25 күн бұрын
It is very good but I prefer a three fold anyway. Puts Grand Seiko to shame if Christopher Ward can put micro adjustment on a flush concealed butterfly and they cannot (will not?) put it on a flush three fold!
@Barbecuejag 21 күн бұрын
Zodiac has something similar on their butterfly clasps - more flex as opposed to an actual extension, but the give certainly helps with the comfort. That said, i absolutely HATE the skeletonized design of this one. Certainly no interest from me at this asking price.
@markikn3183 25 күн бұрын
Spot on, Jody. Happy to see CW do this watch, my personal taste on skellingtons is neither here nor there (fwiw no thanks). But the way they are moving up the price ladder and starting to play in the Longines/Tudor/Oris pool is the main takeaway.
@sylvainster30 25 күн бұрын
I got my very first skeletonized Aragon watch a few months ago and I must say it looks and works really well! Sapphire glass and very comfortable bracelet! Have you ever tried/ review Aragon watches? ✌🏼😎👍🏼
@23664gray 24 күн бұрын
Great tea strainer with a lovely skin nipper added.
@slash.9882 25 күн бұрын
that expandable bracelet is very nice
@nigelh4617 25 күн бұрын
Cool tee, Dr J.
@Box_13 25 күн бұрын
Jody, your font with the dimensions could be a bit more substantial. It looks good and looks more refined, but is just a little light to read. Exceptionally cool watch, thanks for the review.
@propblast82nd 25 күн бұрын
Hellooo Jody 😊
@sinesaii 25 күн бұрын
I love this. I would have liked it more in steel, but I suspect I will buy it. I am buying a nice watch at Worn & Wound this summer. I thought it would be a Fears, but it might be this.
@robedmunds7163 25 күн бұрын
Lovely, but what's the time? The main function, should still be well, functional
@alfieakaronaldog 25 күн бұрын
I discovered the C60 Concept because of this release and much preferred that. The movement and lume looked better. Love CW got the micro adjustment on a butterfly, even though I prefer 3 fold! Puts Grand Seiko to shame lol.
@brianjohnson3743 25 күн бұрын
It’s a unique case, bigger than the regular titanium 40mm Twelve.
@Hard_7_Iron 25 күн бұрын
Nice tee shirt. Nice watch too….❤
@darkeye77 25 күн бұрын
Great discussion. I'm a big fan of CW and I see the value in this enough that if I were buying a Twelve, I think it would be this one. But I'm not convinced I want this style of watch enough. I keep trying on and putting down PRX's without buying, so clearly not ready to take this type of plunge. I'm actually excited about your prediction for more upscale CW. if they somehow manage to be a taste of high horology in the single digit thousands, that would be a really neat niche to occupy.
@bryanthebryan2638 25 күн бұрын
CW’s bread and butter diver as well as their standard Gada offering can be had for under $900 if you forgo the bracelet.
@flemmingsorensen5470 25 күн бұрын
I couldnt care less, if a macro lens spies "rough edges" or not - only what I can see with my naked eye matters. The price, well if you want a watch (or any other product) bad enough and have the available funds, then its not too expensive. CW knows how to do business, and they probably also know that creating a halo model, is about marketing more that direct model related profits (ROI). Btw: that clasp is bloody brilliant👍 PS: how is the after sales service on a grey market Zenith....🤨
@edwardsjohnpaul 24 күн бұрын
Love the adjustment on the clasp, absolutely brilliant and a long time coming.
@forrest225 25 күн бұрын
It looks ok for a skeletonized watch I guess, but I'd prefer the awesome power reserve with a normal dial.
@jeff1176 25 күн бұрын
It's definitely a nice piece. However, the huge detractors for me are the price, the integrated bracelet, the strange angle of the mid case lugs, and lastly the butterfly clasp. They always pop open on me, whether I wear them tight or loose on the wrist, they always pop open. So for me, it's a no-go.
@HydrogenAlpha 17 күн бұрын
I have a Twelve titanium and the clasp would never pop open on it in a million years. The CW ones are well made.
@willelliott5052 25 күн бұрын
I could be tempted only if it had a date and if I did not already own the Twelve Ti.
@afraza5946 25 күн бұрын
Thanks but I'd rather get a lightly ised Omega or if I can get my hands on a used Zenith
@andrewbourn1513 24 күн бұрын
Dr. Ian Malcolm would have words with CW on this one. "Your engineers were so concerned about whether they could..."
@joshsher6327 17 күн бұрын
Hi Jodi can you review the Jack Mason Strat-O-Timer gmt?
@ashdfgjt 25 күн бұрын
Patek have started doing on the fly adjustment on their butterfly deployant, it's currently on the 5811 and a few others
@markwheeler4417 25 күн бұрын
I believe the list is Patek Phillipe, Audermars Piquet, JLC and Formex.
@stancashman2318 24 күн бұрын
I like it Jody, almost as much as I like your shirt! 😁 But just too expensive to justify for me!
@alexsalvador3370 25 күн бұрын
Hi Jory, Maybe you want to consider making a skeletonized Erebus, I will definitely order 1
@heiner71 25 күн бұрын
Jory is on a different channel, called "The Time Teller".
@mstevens113 24 күн бұрын
Wrong channel! 😂
@alexsalvador3370 21 күн бұрын
Thank you
@WaltervonKurzgesagt 25 күн бұрын
struggling to differentiate between the front and the back of the watch
@mstevens113 24 күн бұрын
I have a Ward bought 4 year ago but the prices have now crept into the range i won't justify over other priorities.
@user-zl6yw6jd9u 25 күн бұрын
Like it but not for me due to legibility - but fair play its beautiful and I love CW's chops
@2manysigns 25 күн бұрын
I think it would be as difficult to choose between those three as choosing between the Erebus Ascent dials !
@Ae073001 25 күн бұрын
If this had Omega or any other brand with equity, there would be no concern. Because it is a CW it's a concern. Look at the watch for what it offers in comparison to the market, and one without bias will see this is a very good watch. Congrats CW, very interested to see what you do in the future.
@LagerPetrol409 24 күн бұрын
Nice review, I am actually impressed with the specs on the CW 12 X , yes the price is a bit polarised but as you rightly pointed out Jody if you look up the scale for what they are offering in terms of specs it's retrospective. I'm not a fan of integrated watches, skeletonized watches if done correctly I do like as I have engineering background and love to see how mechanical items work. Yes Zenith is a good choice as it's a well established swiss brand , but I don't think it offers 100m WR?
@LagerPetrol409 24 күн бұрын
I stand corrected Zenith Defy does actually have 100m WR
@rodsalvador3608 25 күн бұрын
Love and own the Oris ProPilot X 115. The CW beats it on size, bezel finishing and that nifty on the fly adjustment! I'm not hating this; good job CW. My money would still go to the Bel Canto, though.
@danielleclare2938 25 күн бұрын
I can think of a lot of timepieces I would want more than that for the price. Jomashop will have them in stock for $1899 if you can wait a year.
@grenphelps7455 25 күн бұрын
Jody, Formex do a micro adjustment for their butterfly bracelet and have done for quite some time....
@JustOneMoreWatch 25 күн бұрын
Really? Not this style though?
@grenphelps7455 24 күн бұрын
@@JustOneMoreWatch no better....
@Mohika881 24 күн бұрын
Very insightful presentation. I agree that CW will try to move up the ladder in pricing and quality. It’s a logical thing to do and they do seem to strive to take the company forward.
@progguy10 25 күн бұрын
This thing looks on another level
@Tangylives 25 күн бұрын
Finally a less ridiculous size box. Probably won't be buying this particular CW though, nice as it is.
@ImTheDudeMan471 25 күн бұрын
At a glance, I can clearly see it's "over there hour, some minutes o'clock". After a 1 minute glance, it's definitely 9 or 10 o'clock, kinda just past the hour maybe. Great watch....
@Steve-xv9ir 24 күн бұрын
This is the first honest review I've seen of this watch where the reviewer has actually dared give a negative opinion on something! Every other review I have seen has been more of a spec. check and letting us all know how good CW are! Well done to Jody for saying it how it is.
@CorvusHyperion 23 күн бұрын
It remains to be seen if CW can actually make these (and other models). I waited a year for a Snow Leopard (same movement) before giving up.
@DrNitin14 20 күн бұрын
For the money I could quite happily put this up vs the zenith. It's movement is better is clasp is better it also wears smaller and more compact and it has quick release on the bracelet and rubber. For me this is a halo model for Christopher Ward and I'm glad it's not a limited edition.
@fahadkhan-db6bh 24 күн бұрын
I know it’s an older model, but I’ve been trying to look at the C65 Aquatine stainless steel in blue (on bracelet) for a while now. Since CW is a direct online only brand, not possible where I’m. Can you help Jody?
@jcrobles63 25 күн бұрын
The VC Overseas uses the same type of micro-adjustment on the butterfly clasp. Nice trick, but not new.
@bobmclennan1727 25 күн бұрын
It's out of my price range, and skeleton dials aren't my style, but holy cow look at that micro-adjust on the bracelet. Outstanding innovation. I hope it trickles down to their other models.
@Yorkiepoocharlie 25 күн бұрын
Need a few different color way options. At least one that allows to have the hands pops to allow for, well, reading the time.
@ctdavis3277 19 күн бұрын
I’m not keen on skeletonized dials, with rare exceptions such as the Accutron Spaceview, but generally I feel like this is decent value for what you get.
@DrTerryBooth 24 күн бұрын
Glad they kept the same packaging. Definitely a Marmite watch for me. Next step from the Bel Canto? Straying too far into Hublot territory?
@scottsj4625 25 күн бұрын
Not for me but thanks for the review. Love your intelligence T-shirt. Clever.
@chrishemming9976 18 күн бұрын
I have the steel 12 in 36mm with the mint green dial and its a fun metal sports watch... this certainly seems a bit much
@thompsonterry4804 25 күн бұрын
This new Skele-Twelve is definitely in the halo/apex range for the CW catalogue. Looks great, impressive design and engineering. I’m not sold on the skeleton work as a look. But it is a brilliant watch. Bravo, CW. As to the price, this feels like an extension of the CW line that makes sense to me: not limited supply, but not a daily for the average buyer either. I think the XIIX will be aspirational as they maintain the entry lux Trident/Sealander/Aquitaine models as well.
@adamnagy7599 25 күн бұрын
Well… It’s not the Bel Canto… What I do like is the shirt!
@michaelgreenhalgh3369 23 күн бұрын
A nightmare of cogwheels and springs 😱
@marcheezy. 24 күн бұрын
Reminds me of the Rolex Texano. I like the lume disk and micro adjustments. Would prefer it smaller (~38mm). Wouldn't mind a reduction in PR to 60hrs if it was cheaper and thinner as well.
@GingerDownUnder 13 күн бұрын
Forget the watch, I just love the T-shirt 👍
@adk7962 25 күн бұрын
It is a bit complicated for me. I’m glad and not glad they are moving more upmarket. As for this watch, it’s fantastic but not quite for me. And for the money, I’m looking at several other watches, GS, Tudor, etc. before I would pick this one up. Not that I can afford any of these anyway! Thanks for the great review as always!
@armandr1613 25 күн бұрын
Those $ signs concern me 😐
@JustOneMoreWatch 25 күн бұрын
Sign O The Times.
@BrianHartman 25 күн бұрын
Definitely out of my price range, but a nice skeletonized watch, nonetheless, and more legible than most I've seen. I kinda dig it. :) Great review, Jody!
@hattyfarbuckle 25 күн бұрын
The JLC Aikon Urban Tribe all day for me at around the same price if you can find one - failing that the Zenith if Jomashop still have it.
@indaleciomendez8442 23 күн бұрын
Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.
@markplayford5836 25 күн бұрын
Not really much to add to your fire side chat there Jody as I think you made some very valid points. I would much prefer the standard Ti 12 IF you can call that standard! Like you said this is niche Ward and for some it’s just what they want, plus there is no doubt this is a bit of a technological marvel. Well done CW 👏👏👏
@timhorack5468 24 күн бұрын
Throw a set of yellow hands on it for legibility and I'd buy it
@modulo3664 25 күн бұрын
Only Kenissi (Tudor) is kicking out long power reserve, 28,800 vph chronometer movements in any volume at all. Could CW compete as a movement manufacture?
@DXPetti 24 күн бұрын
Rado Captain Cook Ceramic Skeleton is very similar priced (and most likely less when going through a AD). But, I will admit, the CW Skeletisation is on a level that is nearly unmatched.
@untoweechja2238 25 күн бұрын
As you point out, a big disadvantage of a skeleton is the inherent difficulty of reading the time at a glance, hence their general lack of appeal for me. That being said, if I were to buy a skeleton, this would be a solid contender.
@HAL-xy3om 25 күн бұрын
Very nice watch, and I do agree with your T.shit, Steven was rarely wrong!
@andreaiacolina 25 күн бұрын
This is not for me, in terms of design and it's for sure expensive for a CW, but on the other hand this could probably be considered a competitor of the Oris Pro Pilot X skeleton with the caliber 115 that is currently priced at 8k, so from this point of view it's not so bad.
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