Without kd onna warriors Bron would have 6 chips rn

And KD would have 0 rings 😂​@@jdot8911

@@jdot8911which has nothing to do with the question lmao

That's the bottom line. I don't know how its ever even a question whether or not Durant needed the Warriors more or if they needed him more. Durant would have ended up being a slightly better Melo without the warriors.

You are missing the point. Gsw are viewed as a dynasty because they have 4 rings . They would not be a dynasty without KD. Also curry would be looked at different without KD and LeBron would likely have more rings and looked at differently as well. So kd did change their legacy

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reoccurring theme 😂 if you don’t agree with him he doesn’t let you talk 😂

Thank God let me know to skip this

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2016 came down to a game 7 and final shot from kyrie. How does guarantee the cavs win the next yr😂

Cause they came back 3-1 is how​@@kjames737

yup

Thank you everybody always makes excuses for everybody else Those injuries stopped lebron from beating them the 1st time He almost beat them with Mozgov AND Dellevadova The warriors probably never even win if that 1st series doesn't happen with those injuries to kyrie and Love

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That’s not point understand the question THEIR LEGACIES WOULD BE DUFFERENT THEY WOULDNT HAVE REPEATED

Yeah years later after roster changes. This point is irrelevant.

The core is still there​@@delanioporter8430

Dude has a major ego problem. Wants to be the star of the show and passively bullies Rob by taking over. Lame as hell.

​@@demariocrenshaw7691I don't think he means to bully Rob but he does.

Facts. Used to come off as the level-headed, unbiased guy (especially as a guest on other shows) but every year that ego seems to grow a notch.

@@demariocrenshaw7691lmao idk how u see that. He’s obviously just passionate about sports specifically basketball. He has respect for Rob

frl! He says it’s better when one person speaks at a time for the listener then screams over Rob when he begins to talk

Thank you and game 7 bro they fetus guarding the paint before bogurt and iggy injury lebron wasn’t even in the paint lol but that’s what get loss

Also Steph came back from aninjury early and was hampered in the playoffs bc of it.

@@klssplash facts! Bogut was controlling the paint and I don’t mean dominant numbers, I mean influence of their defense in protecting the rim and keeping Tristan Thompson off the offensive glass. When he got hurt, all that changed

@@Warriors49ers definitely was a big reason they were able to chuck him like they were doing and Steph couldn’t do much against it. People forget they played physical against Steph in all 4 of the finals they played the warriors and that 2016 finals was really where that worked the most. I think it was like you said, due to injury

​​​@@klssplashwhat gets lost is lebron almost beat them with Mozgov and Dellevadova as his co starts in their first rodeo when love and Kyrie got hurt That's why they flew to LI and begged KD to join them and they openly admitted they went to get him just to beat LeBron

Lool

Yeah that’s crazy 😂

Chris “Hold On!🤬” Broussard. 😂😂😂

Omm 😂😂😂

😂😂😂Exactly like really???

Yes and Chris is forgetting that KD going there also got rid of their biggest competition in the west

They was down 3-2 To harden and cp3 though

@@NwoFreshand then warriors beat em without KD the next year

I agree wholeheartedly!

@@NwoFresh Warriors literally beat them without KD next szn. Lol Draymond was right that Houston Team was good but it wasnt great enough to beat

Being a title contender and winning titles are 2 different things. There's nobody other than KD who they could've gotten to help them beat Lebron and his Cavs.

@@smoothsavage2870 Warriors were up 3-1, if the suspension of Draymond doesn’t happen series probably would have been over in 5.

You're out of your mind. And they already had a title and a 3-1 lead of the Cavs. Its amazing people always wanna acknowledge everything that went wrong for Cavs in 15 but not the Warriors in 16@@smoothsavage2870

I'm guessing Cleveland ran out of gas in 2015 as well, right?

@@gregoryevans8179 Draymond was there after the suspension. Yall act like he got suspended for the remainder of the series. The Cavs were in elimination games every game after game 4.

so we cant call lebron the greatest SF and cant call Jokic a center right? cause these positions dont initiate the offense. tell me bozo

he plays PG on the roster. and is PG on the depth chart. Klay is the SG. How they play may not fully define the position, but we can't change their positions just cause.

I agree hes 2guard masquerading as a 1 mainly due to his lack of size to play at the 2 and hes a great ball handler

IM SO PISS WHEN THEY CALLED HIM LIKE THAT BRO

Injuries are no excuse for losses

They choked, cry forever

it was a choke job bc the guys that were supposed to show up underperformed. Steph Curry was awful in game 7 2016.

It is an excuse because when he got suspended they were up 3-1 and it completely changed the momentum of that series because if he doesn’t get suspended they win that series in 5

Bogut was a more important factor. Gs got lucky klay saved them game 6 in the wcf. Cavs should have figured gs out sooner and never gone down 3-1.

I hate that people use cavs getting hurt in 2015 as an excuse. You see how that works.

They loss iggy and bogurt that’s never get mentioned ever wtf are you people talking about it’s a reason bron was able to get in the paint 6 and 7

2015 WE LOST 2 OF 3 BEST PLAYERS I NEVER THEY TALK ABOUT IT

People don't remember love and kyrie being injured in they 1st rodeo either And lebron almost beat them with Mozgov and Dellevadova

@jaylou8721 I think most people remember that... 🤔 or they should for sure... That's such a bummer, man... Kyrie's knee blew in game 1

Who says they wouldn’t??? Klay bounced back from 2 freak injuries and they won a chip the FIRST year they were all healthy.

Agreed & to be honest that golden state team wasn’t beating Cleveland again.

​@@RonnySwankthe warriors wasn't getting past okc again.

​@@matthewwashington87thru would have smashed Cleveland stop it

​@l9ikjam 😂 warriors smoked all them. Easily do it again. Go back and look at the games.

ofc Rob has Thomas as #2, we all know he's not the biggest Curry fan 😂

Chris is the CEO of the Bron Ball Washing Fan Club.

@@greggibson33😂😂😂 CEO, CFO, treasurer

@@greggibson33I’m not sure why ppl keep saying this when he doesn’t even have bron as the goat. lol make it make sense

@@K124Bcurry is not a point guard, never even averaged 9 assists. Compare him to Reggie and Ray.

So, kD still hasn't won ish without them... Chris is right on this.... kD didn't have to play for them especially because they just beat him the year before.

@@sirwavydude5435you saying so is hilarious. Bruh 6 years later means that championship has 0 to do with 2016. Winning 6 years later doesn’t change that KD without question carry him

@@sirwavydude5435 it was a mutual benefit between an embarassed player and an even more embarassed, laughing stock of a team.

so what? they still had the same core in 2022 and you don't have to be unstoppable in order to win multiple rings. 2016 they barely lost in game 7 even with dray suspension and injuries. KD was paid 25+ mill a year on GS. If they didnt get him they would have that money to get another all star and bench players

@@coolp9347 they still had the same core, coach and system in 2022. KD did not carry them. curry had 27/6/6 in 17 and 18 playoffs.

They needed KD to counter Lebron. Steph was not that yet

They're talking about them beating the cavs. Pay attention

@@jasonharris8099But then the correct thing would be to say they needed each other because KD has not won nothing outside of Golden State

@jakieresykes3644 nobody is debating that. The question is " would gs beat the cavs WITHOUT kd"

@jakieresykes3644 at the end of the day kd nor gs wanted to see lebron without teaming up

And everyone would still know KD is the greater player

@@Camefromnone kd would have no rings and one mvp if he didn’t join Golden State

We actually have no clue who would've won if they didn't stack the deck​@@ghost-nj7qy

@@CamefromnoneSteph beat the same Boston Celtics team that swept KD in the first round 🧹🥴

@@ghost-nj7qy kd is the reason those boys throw up 4’s

That was 5 years later tho

@@kendarius23 Klay Was Out For 2020 & 2021… They Literally Instantly Won Another Ring The 1st Year That They Were Back Whole

Just a bunch of casuals bruh remember the majority is not always right these mfs think they can gaslight ppl that know wtf happened lmao and know basketball and been watching basketball for years. Yall just can’t gaslight us like that ain’t gon work on me 😂

They had Wiggins and Poole who were dominanting to replace 1 KD but everyone forgets that

@@ebonynerd That’s The Point… KD Was Never Needed. They Replaced Him With 2 High Quality Role Players & Won Again Meanwhile He’s Hopping All Over The League & Still Can’t Even Make It To A Conference Finals… Warriors Saved KD Legacy

Warriors winning in 2022 doesn't make that argument BS?

Rob sucks 🤷🏾‍♂️

@@jayplunks Yep.

😂😂😂WARRIORS would've lost to Houston the following years!

@@mcdiesel7505 they lost to the Warriors without Durant "😂😂😂"

2017 was winnable, lebron just let KD bust his ass. Especially in the 4th when the games were close.

Thats why they hate Durant and make no sense while at it

@@judahmourneth3211yea your a casual don’t talk ball ever again

And GS would've racked up 4 or more if KD stayed. Then there's that.

And he wouldn't have any if he didn't mow around. He also would have to send the 2012 ring to KD

SAME ABOUT MY TEAM 2015 WE LOST 2 OF UR 3 BEST PLAYERS TF U TALKIN ABOUT COME ON PLEASEEEEE

@clarenspierre1013 You know two things can be true right? What does your comment have to do with mine? Ofc losing players affect outcomes. That's my point lol

@@Ben2bwild Injuries are no excuse for losses

@jandt3463 it's a reason not an excuse lol. An excuse would be playing badly and then making an excuse. Injuries are part of the game and hence, a legit reason for a team to lose.

@@Ben2bwild Still an excuse, someone else could've stepped up. Ask Tom Brady.......

Would you hold the warriors in high regard if they would’ve won 2 instead of 4??

​@@z-mane1438 would you hold KD in high regard if he won 0. He did a doggone thing until he came to the Warriors.

@@lindaalexander7339 no I wouldn’t and it’s the other way around as well

they won one before kd

@@z-mane1438 How Is It The Other Way Around If They Still Have 2? It’s Not An Equal Give & Take

Y’all do know that KD said out his own mouth that HE CALLED THEM after they won in 2015

@@cw1229 and they didn't have to pick up the phone if they were confident that they could win without him

@@cw1229 they flew cross country to beg for KD these are facts. that’s like Boston losing and Going across country to Recruit Steph lol

@@jasonharris8099 bro if a top player in the league wants to join your team that can’t beat you then why would you say no? That logic don’t even make sense KD lost to Steph not the other way around why would Steph feel away about a guy who he beat joining him?? Like dude I whoop yo ass then you call saying you want to be my best friend after I whoop you and somehow I look bad and not you?

@@jasonharris8099I hear what you’re saying but if your them you ain’t taking that call? If I’m them confident or not I woulda been thinking we can get KD? Well that’s atleast talk to him

Yea no they didn’t. They almost won when cavs were injured af and it was only lebron delly and shitty players

On god! The injuries stopped them.

Yeah GSW could have lost in 2015 had Kyrie and KLove been healthy.

The thing that people ignore is if KD signed somewhere else whatever contender he signed with would be a favorite

People will never accept the truth but they will accept the truth of the cavs being hurt in 2015. It’s asinine. The team won 73 games and were 2 minutes away from completing basketball. Yet folks say they never would’ve had a chance. It’s insane. Some folks should just shut up and not talk basketball. Could they have lost? Possibly, but they could have won just as much.

KD has not won nothing outside of Golden State the Golden State Warriors has won without them twice

More “impactful” than Steph Curry? Did you watch Game 4? I mean, what kind of casual are you 🤢

@@jakieresykes3644 DO THEY BEAT KYRIE AND LOVE IN THOSE FINALS?

@@bern717lol I hate these watered down ESPN type fans with bc a passion

@@cameroonbreezygoat903 ehh, they don’t even watch the games, I swear. They look at box scores and form their simple-‘minded opinion 😭😆

Finally! A man with common sense! 💪

How when even Draymond said they wouldn’t have won anymore? Bron figured the Warriors out. Hell he figured them out now.

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​@@RonJP-pm7jp 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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he has never outplayed lebron in a single playoff series. just been on better roster but 1 on 1 it is not even close when you look at their stats.

​@2cents250 so stats are better than rings? Typical LeBron thinking. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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@@LOTM-bh7zxbasically 💯😭

Oh poor Warriors

HE HATES KD.

Ong it’s annoying! He hates kd and it’s obvious!!

Who had the weaker competition between MJ and Lebron. Who NEVER PLAYED OR BEAT A SUPERTEAM (3 HOFs on 1 team e.g. Jordan, Pippen, Rodman) on his many final appearances. Talk about weak. Chris thinks he's slick and we don't know basketball history. SMDH Some guy answered me the Pistons, but they had been to 3 straight Finals before Jordan beat them. If you know NBA History, after 3 finals the team is done by the 4th year. You can check every team. GTFOH

Chris is the main dude along with Barkley who just can’t stop hating on KD every chance they get. It’s sad.

@@richardturner1063so by that logic Lebron only started winning bcuz Kobe was done right ?tf you talking about ? Do you know that d Wade is better at literally everything then Scottie Pippen ! Like who tf y’all think y’all be talking about ?

U just made the point for KD 🤣🤣🤣

@@kinghova9197 The Fact That KD Would Be Ringless Without GS Makes What Point For KD Exactly?

Good one glorified Carmelo Anthony Yes his is

@@ZimMill We dont know if KD would be ringless or not. Yall just assume that because you hate him. The way you think about KD NOW is because you hate him for going to the Warriors. The reason you respect the Warriors NOW is because you hate KD for going there and you praise them to spite KD. He DEFINITELY is the reason people view them in a good light these days.

@@smoothsavage2870 You Way Too Emotional Dude It Ain’t That Deep KD Been In The League For 17 Years & He Played 3 Years In Golden State So Do The Math… We Have A 14 Year Sample Size Of Evidence Where He Played Outside Of Golden State & He Is 0/14 As Far As Winning A Championship… KD Is A Champion Because The Warriors Made Him A Champion… The Warriors Are Champions With Or Without KD Nothing About This Has Emotion Involved, These Are Unimpeachable Facts

Steph won 2 regular season MVPs (one unanimous), 2 championships, and a Finals MVP without KD. How is that a legacy that needs “saving”?

You clearly didn't read what I said cuz I'm sure klay and Draymond can't say they have finals mvps let alone regular mvps KD joining the warriors made klay and Draymond guaranteed HOF guys while we 💩 on KD for taking the easy way out

Yeah unfortunately you said it perfectly.

​@@bern717clown KD saved them period.

@@blazedup4208BS you don’t know what you’re talking about. They were beating everyone without KD being there. A lot of y’all just talk but don’t really know basketball. They would have probably beaten the Cavs if Draymond didn’t get suspended smh

Yeah he always interrupts Rob but gets emotional when Rob does it

It’s not exaggerated. Those boys went 73-9 after talkin trash about wanting Cleveland fully healthy. Lost then went to KD to literally make it the best team ever.

😂😂😂he hates mahomes, but loves KD

He’s a jabroni 🤦🏿‍♂️

Maybe the cavs win in 17, but without Kyrie, they would still lose in 18.

Warriors would’ve been broken up by then , losing 3-1 and then again

Draymond being suspended, curry on one leg, bogut injured, Harrison barnes 0cluch gene. We sure

@@montgeez06 lol or they would come back better

@@zacharygodfrey874Kyrie don’t leave if CLE keep winning chips

It doesn’t but their specifically talking about Those two championships

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Me too, the Cavs had more star power with LeBron, Kyrie, and Love vs Steph and Klay. KD added the star that they needed who had the ability to score in multiple ways. Steph and Klay are outside scorers, KD can get a shot anywhere on the court on his own. Klay doesn't create his own shot so they really only had 1 guy that could do that. LeBron and Kyrie create their own shot.

Exactly. Chris even hates to bring up KD, unless it's something negative. I bet if KD wins a ring in PHX, Chris still will find a way to spin it in a negative way.

Chris hates KD more than Rob hates Bron.... that's a lot of hate. 😆

I definitely noticed that too. Just goes to show these media guys be in their feelings and dishonest

Mane I thought I was the only person who noticed Chris don’t mess with KD after he called him a liar.😂 It’s like everytime they talk about KD Chris got something negative to say about him

@@courtneywilliams394EVERYTIME breh . Even yesterday on FTF , Nick gave KD props on his recent play &Chris immediately said “but Shai’s better “ 😂 man got real hate for KD

Shut up lol If Draymond didn’t get suspended they probably beat the Cavs 4-1

@@cameroonbreezygoat903 nah because when Draymond came back they still lost. He got suspended they had 2 more games after that to win

didn't Draymond come back for game 6 and 7. Still took that L at HOME@@cameroonbreezygoat903

This is silly. The Dubs didn’t get swept by the Cavs, they came very very close to winning. This notion that they couldn’t compete is ludicrous. Getting KD ensured they would beat the Cavs, but the Dubs were not completely defeated and unable to compete.

@@SH-jd3zgWhen Draymond got suspended it completely changed the momentum of that series

they couldn't win two, how did you come up with three? had the warriors not signed KD, it's safe to say they would've found a quality free agent. I love Zeke, but he's salty that Curry has dethroned him in the eyes of many as #2 goat pg. lebron seemingly bought Dray, & Rob is wet blanket on most topics

@@sv1global599 The entire team was back and healthy, if guys were traded or injured sure. The Cavs did make it back to the finals. The notion they wouldn't win without a DK Warriors and not let's say the series is 2-0 the Cavs will always feel like they have a chance. Or better yet 2--2 with the Warriors winning the last two, even with back to back wins the Warriors would always feel we played well the last 4 days but anything can turn. Thats not hate, the only one that could even guard Lebron on that team was DK. He guarded the best guy and still put up 30. Including hit two clutch shots in both finals, a random free agent thats not a top 5 guy won't be doing that. At that time outside of Steph DK was the second best player in the league.

Man couldn’t win 3 in a row in the Heatles yet he’ll do it with the Cavs? Y’all are ridiculous.

it took Draymond getting suspended for Cavs to make the great comeback@@enigma13ff

the tricky part of the conversation is that we're assuming that if the warriors were unable to acquire KD, they wouldnt have signed another lesser free agent to give them a needed spark. barnes played an early role, poole later role. based on how things have played out since Curry has been a warrior, I can't honestly say that they wouldnt have continued on their dynasty run

Exactly. The Cavs walked them down from 3-1 and figured them out. If KD wouldn’t came to GS the Cavs would’ve owned the Warriors

@@sv1global599Barnes was part of the reason they lost so you would’ve needed to replace Barnes and besides KD there was no one at that time to really replace Barnes that could’ve done something with Bron.

@@RonJP-pm7jpyou have literally nothing to back that up…..

No he couldn’t even beat Jason Terry in 2011

Niggas took him out they would’ve closed them out in 5 if draymond was there family they was cheating gsw in game 5 and 6

⁠​⁠@@RandyTheFittesthe took himself out kicking everyone in the nuts picking up t’s in every series leading up to the finals

Yeah, but the Cavs LOST the only game of the 2015 series that Kyrie was in, so he was not the Cavs secret sauce. Remember that he got injured in OT in game one, and the Dubs went on to win that game.

​@@stevenkraft8070 You made my point.

❤❤Love was hurt as well

Ok cool we would still have 2 rings and he would have none 😂😂😂

@@ghost-nj7qy you don't know that. What if he had joined Boston with brown and Tatum? They could have easily won a couple of chips

@@christiansoldier77 now playing the what if game 😂😂😂😂

@@christiansoldier77 we can say damn thing in 2016 if Draymond green doesn’t get suspended or Andrew Bogut doesn’t get hurt but I don’t bc I don’t play the what if games

​@@ghost-nj7qyyall KD haters big mad Isiah told the truth draymond begged KD in the parking lot

You mean LeFraud aint winning if Kyrie aint on the roster.

@@greggibson33exactly

cap they was beating they ass by 20+ a game with kyrie in the roster the suspension and injury to their rim protection is the only reason the cavs barely won plus iggy lebrons primary defender got hurt stop acting like it was impossible for the warriors to beat them

@@MaxPotentialGreatness People forget Bron did his dumb hero ball routine in the last minutes of game 7 going four straight possessions and missed every shot. The only reason they won is becuz he FINALLY passed to Kyrie who hit the game winner.

@@greggibson33 you speak nothing but facts bro! I never seen so many narratives discredit one team smh

People forget how awful Barnes was that series. Anyone that knew how to play basketball gets those shots and they win.

And you are assuming other teams don’t get better too. Kd and Russ with a bunch of guys who can’t shoot almost beat them. Give kd a team with shooters where they cant just load up on him and he’s killing them.

@@brendanbloom3366 And what team with the cap space to sign KD had a "bunch of shooters" to allow KD to play 1v1. Golden State was the only team that had the ability to provide him that at the time.

@@brandonb.5304 exactly why it made sense to go there. They still had to lose 2 starters and almost all their bench to do it. Kd could have done a 1 year deal in okc and by the next year a team could have created the cap space for kd. There was no point for a guy coming off a broken foot to do that tho. Okc could have not been cheap and kept harden in the first place.

So how did they beat the rockets without KD stop talking you sound stupid

@@joe97nsx well no sh!t.. that will happen if your MVP type player goes down

​@@scoop2448what he's saying is that proves the point They needed KD Chris Broussard is wrong

@@jaylou8721 Obviously did not need KD since they destroyed the league and went 16-1 in playoffs in 2017. In 2019, Kd was injured and replaced by his backup. If they never got KD they would have 25 million in cap and got an all star and bench players. You cant just take KD off the team and not replace him lol

And the Rockets got horrendous calls against them in Game 7, missed 27 3-point shots in a row…only lost by 9.

How? They even moderately upgrade from Harrison Barnes and they likely win another title in the next few years. Barnes was absolutely awful in the Finals as their starting 3. People pretending like a team that won 73 games that year was going to immediately crumble and break up is laughable. That team was nearly unbeatable for 95% of the season. It took an unfortunate set of circumstances, like Curry have no lateral movement from an injury a month earlier, Draymond get suspended, having no rim protector because of a Bogut injury, etc. for them to collapse in the Finals.

but they were adding a star that summer, regardless if it was KD or not

@@cheerioss-9121 WICH SUPERSTAR WOULD BEAT LEBRON 1VS1 IN THOSE FINALS OTHER THN KD?

@@ojoj5194 Anthony Davis would’ve made their defense so good it would’ve been scary. The PNR between Steph and AD would’ve been unstoppable. This was when AD was in his athletic prime and could shoot the 3 and had a nice midrange. Imagine him with Draymond in his ear on the defensive end… bro 😭😭 Paul George basically KD but not naturally as gifted as a scorer but he’s a better defender, more athletic, and we seen what PG looked like with Russ a competent player and guy that could get him the ball. Imagine him in the Warriors system. Honestly if that would’ve happened we might’ve seen the Paul George before the freak injury.

@@cheerioss-9121 would and could. AD cant even beat sabonis none of them is better thn kd even today

@@ojoj5194 alright lil bro good talk

He is a f. Hater