@JesusLightsYourPath How wonderful that you've started to cover your head in church! Yes, it can be uncomfortable; I have been the only one covering in my church for about 11 years. But, we can keep on pursuing obedience and find our joy in that. You may be interested in our Facebook Community Group, where you will find many ladies who also cover: facebook.com/groups/covermovement/ ~Jessica

John MacArthur also explains it very well, similarly to how you did as well.

What I was thinking

Hi, I came to the conclusion, that it is either speaking ABOUT God or TO God. Either one.

Same, because we could be say in a the bus stop, or somewhere and want to pray, as you said even a whispered prayer, I figured I'm always ready if I cover full-time 👏

Thank you for this! If you don’t mind me asking where did you study what prophesying was?

Literally that is exactly one of the reasons why I wear mine! I love it!!! It is as a crown to me. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. 💙💜

I think it changes a lady's countenance over time too.

Oh I love the wedding ring analogy.

@@Surabelle what about the men, they need then a crown too

@@susannek.8202 are you a man ?

God bless you as you embark on obedience. It is obedience and nothing else.

Omg same here with the praying and covering!!!! 😭😭😭😩😩🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

Yeah I read into the verse about women wearing men’s garments but I believe it is referring to men’s worrier garments.

Dear Nina, God bless you. You are right. That is how it should be. Others are deceived, like Eve. Satan DECEIVES many , even from that time by twisting word of God. I am a minister of the word of God. Holy Spirit Himself taught all these clearly to me. I wish, I could teach you, if I meet personally.

What is your church called?

@@Eileenislightnlove most orthodox churches do like in most arab countries,Armenia, Greece. I know women cover their hair more properly than this in them countires when going to church.

In my church we also wear head scarfs While we are worshipping and praying Be at home or church. At www. Jesusislordradio.info. Or repentandpreparetheway.org By Prophet Owour You can send email' if you are Interest ed to be connected to a church in your region.

1 Corinthians 11:15 long hair has been given to her to serve as a covering

God bless you.

Clear Bright Light hi......as to “over” obeying, think about this. Imagine a little boy being told to bring in his bicycle by his parent. Is that parent going to be angry if he does it? What about if he also brought in his sister’s bike he found in the yard? Would his parents be angry at him for over doing it? No, even if they wanted that bike in the yard for some reason they would observe his child like behavior and understand that he was attempting to do a good thing.

Licinda Stevens Sure. I can share my testimonies if you are interested.

Licinda Stevens It is amazing you are interested in my testimony. You can find my testimonial on why I cover my head here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gceRoNZ51LWpnKM.html You can find my testimonial about why I dress modestly here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m8ufmNeQnpnNaHU.html My email is crystle.kizer@icloud.com Have a blessed day.

Catherine Levison Wow that is an great illustration. So true. I never heard of a child getting in trouble for over obeying or going above and beyond what is expected of them.

Someone said , it's better to go too far, than not far enough , if we seek to go deeper with God , He will instruct us and teach us .

Yes, felmales suppose to cover there hair and body when they pray or go to church. If you go to Eritrean or Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo church you will see that even little girls cover their body and hairs. Also no pants. That religion is been for 2000 years. Maybe you can find answer there. God be with you!!!

@@jordana4511 Thank you ❤. God be with you too ❤

Yes I agree! I was talking to my mom about covering my head and she just shook her head and called my legalistic! It’s pretty insulting because I never looked at it as a law or strict rule I must follow. I looked at it as a sign of obedience and love towards God and to men. I do cover my head now but not in front of them.

Covering is an obedience and instruction from God.

People are taking this part of scripture to literal .. it's kinda sad that they are missing the true meaning of this all too important scripture.....

@@luettahayslett4999lucky for you There is a true meaning

Be careful that you don’t misinterpret the word kaphale. It cannot mean authority. because all authority was given Jesus Christ in heaven and earth. Headship is not a biblical term and is not what this scripture is saying. Christ must be a women’s spiritual head for sure and everything else is demonic.

@@dkjems then why does it say the head of every women is man?

@@lyssalouise2705 Whatever Kaphale means as it applies to women, it must mean the exact same thing as it applies to Christ. I’m going to answer your question with a question. If God is the “head” of Christ (as it says in the same verse) then how is it that Christ has all authority in heaven and on earth? How is it that Christ is given all judgment? How can Christ be Almighty God as it says in Isaiah and God still have authority (headship) over Him right now even after the resurrection. Kaphale cannot mean headship. It can only mean head as in originator.

Hi Mimi, at the end he says we have "no such custom" and the closest antecedent is women praying uncovered. So that verse is strong reason for head covering consistent with the rest of his argument. More on that here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jdmllb2q3NezlYk.html

Song of Sololmon 5 also. She was walking in the streets and was found, they took off her covering or veil. The covering is mention many times in the bible, the only time it speaks of removing or not having one is when the woman is being shamed.

Lisa Chambers exactly, which is very significant when they lived in an honor and shame culture. I think everything Plies two women and scripture has to do with believer's relationship with Messiah, as the Bride of Messiah.

Yes .. but we have to have discernment as Jesus when Satan came to tempt Jesus with the scriptures.

Thanks! Enjoy the process. Here is our study guide to this chapter: headcoveringmovement.com/study

Garlands of Grace is a great store to start with. However, here's a longer list of stores: www.headcoveringmovement.com/articles/where-to-buy-head-coverings-online

Thank you for sharing. You may enjoy... www.headcoveringmovement.com/study

That’s your opinion... the scripture does not say your hair can’t be out

Scripture doesn't say that. As a matter of fact, if it were essential not to show even a strand of hair when praying or prophesying, Paul would've mentioned it... And this, ladies and gentlemen, is how denominations are formed: reading scripture "between the lines"...

Well said simply..

rachybaby72 then what is being covered?

Angelina Trotter The Bible never said cover your hair it says cover your HEAD

Hi Adaia, have you heard the news that our book, "Head Covering" is now available in Spanish? www.headcoveringmovement.com/el-velo-libro

Thanks for the question. Here's our article on that topic: www.headcoveringmovement.com/articles/where-are-head-coverings-to-practiced-in-church-or-everywhere

Yes, you can Elizabeth. The two coverings are distinct and not dependent on each other.

@@headcovering Thank you!

That's a question that is highly debated. Here's one take: www.headcoveringmovement.com/articles/is-corporate-worship-limited-to-the-sunday-service

Hi Donna, Paul means he they have no such custom of women praying uncovered. That is defended in this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jdmllb2q3NezlYk.html

We totally support people's freedom to cover all hair. However, we're convinced for these reasons kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ptappLuCuK_WfJs.html that it doesn't have to be all covered.

I really love the Spanish Mantilla, just like my grandmother used to wear to Church.

Hello, hope it's okay to ask...how do you make your relationship work coming from very different faiths? I'm Christian and just curious.

Heyy, no problem! We have an understanding and we see each other’s sides . Meeting in the middle as best as possible. We respect each other and our differences and where we come from

@@shumoeelarbaaz7916 Thanks for responding! Wishing you both all the best 🙏

This article may be helpful for you... www.headcoveringmovement.com/articles/what-about-women-who-cant-grow-their-hair-long

Amen its for everyone! Be bold as paul was..... I also cover all the time!

I agree that if its Biblical, it is right BUT since Christ came, died and raised, we are free from the law (this doesn’t mean we shouldn’t stick close to it), but we do have Christian liberty. I strongly believe based on my own walk with the Lord, He is not going to give us all EVERY change at once. He is going to work with each of His children differently based on what He knows of our hearts and what He desires to work on in whatever order. Example: I was convicted to not listen to secular music at a time my friend who is also a christian did not feel that same conviction. Although i can easily say “she shouldn’t be listening to that music”, it is not my job to convict. The Holy Spirit was clearly working on her in other areas while she was facing marital issues. That being said....i am now looking into head coverings bc of my convictions. I feel the Lord is showing me something and I as a willing servant want to test it with scripture as He tells us to along with prayer. If this change is to happen in my life, it would be wrong of me to say others should follow me. Bc its what i was convicted of. God knows my heart and my struggles and they may not be the same as my sisters in Christ. BUT if i were to be asked, i would give my honest experience and knowledge of the scriptures. We should be cautious of our own attitudes toward what should or shouldn’t be happening. This is where legalism begins and people get pushed away from the faith. A lost person could miss out on the message that our faith is a RELATIONSHIP not a RELIGION. I see a few comments already that scare me, seeing some people might be missing the point. Don’t be lead by traditions (this was also what Jesus warns of) but by opening your heart to hear God speak to you personally and work in your heart in a way only He can. And I pray that all believers seek to grow closer to Him everyday. May God bless you all.

jedette We are not free from the Law but from the penalty. Yeshua said He did not come to abolish the law or the prophets. He said not one jot or tittle of the Law will pass away until Heaven and Earth have passed away. Since we’re still here...

@@Libertygal74 amen. I still don't get why 95% of Christians I know completely throw away the law. Someone please help me understand. Is it because being in the "world" is easier for people? When did Sunday's become the Sabbath? When did dietary laws get washed? I have much to learn on this history. Is the path so narrow because the temptations, culture, politics, agendas and the dark energy of being of the world consumes most people? When I came to the faith, I spent the majority of my time studying the old testament and laws as I find that the more I follow his commandments and laws, the closer I get to Yashua and the cleaner my heart becomes. If I step away, I lose my footing on this path...

Natalie West Amen, sister!

True, but that’s taken out of context. The context of 1 Corinthians 11 was authority- when Paul says “because of the angels” it’s to be like the angels, as they are made to worship and serve God at all times. Another words, God has authority over the angels (as He as authority over all) and woman should follow that by using a symbol- the headcovering. :)

You may enjoy this article on the topic... www.headcoveringmovement.com/articles/why-head-coverings-reason-2-angels

AMEN!!!

Hi Kate, the text commands an action, not a particular style. That is defended in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ptappLuCuK_WfJs.html

Thanks

Thanks for the question, Peter. It's a symbol, not a garment of modesty. I think a fair comparison is the Lord's Supper. When we eat bread/drink wine it's not a meal replacement, but a symbol. Likewise when women cover their hair, they are not trying to ensure their hair is not seen but to symbolize that they are under headship. Having said that, we can agree that some styles really aren't head coverings but more like hair accessories.

@@headcovering Thanks for answer but I think that God didn't want head covering just as symbol of humbleness, but okay.

@@petar5688 "But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven." 1 Corinthians 11:5 Overall we can see what type of sign it is. "For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels." 1 Corinthians 11:7-10

@@NilsWeber-mb5hg It is not the answet of what I said

@@petar5688 I agree. For there is no exact description of what garment the material is. Therefore, a vail, a hat etc. would all qualify, for all such cover the head.

Hi Jim, that's not a teaching we promote, as we don't see it in the Scriptures.

Yes absolutely! ❤💓😌 I feel bad for them. God bless youiii.

Lol, Jesus (peace be upon him) was a prophet and messenger of Allāh. Muslims believe in Jesus as a prophet. Qur'an has a whole chapter named after Mary the mother of Jesus. Jesus is mentioned in Qur'an and there are stories of Jesus in Qur'an. (Peace be upon him)

We agree with that. We just don't believe it's the only covering mentioned in the passage. More on that here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jteqjLSDl9XQdmg.html

@@headcovering topic is head covering ..if you want to go more further we can because indeed it not only head covering but main topic

@@yahgoshen5815 "For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels." 1 Corinthians 11:7-10

Amen I feel so sorry that these prescious Christians are missing the true message in Paul's writing to the Corinthian Church

Hello, In Jhon they are in the passover dinner a feast of God conmemorating the day when they sacrificed the lamb and the Lord passover the house and didn't killed the first born of the house that had the blood of the lamb. Jesus is our passover lamb like is said in letters from the apostles. The washing of the feet appears as a purification ritual(we can see it in the Law of God) and Jesus washingvtheir feet denotes the servant statute he had( 1Samuel25 41And she rose and bowed with her face to the ground and said, “Behold, your handmaid is a servant to wash the feet of the servants of my lord.” ) When someone was impure from a particular disease, menstruation, sexual fluids...as the Law says they washed their whole body and their clothes and waited for the predetermined period of time depending on the particular situation, this meant they could not go into the temple, the presence of God is there and he is Holy and Pure, denoting our sinful nature and just all the sin that is not ours that affects our lives put us further from God, nonetheless it was only in those specific situations that are mentioned in the law (here is an example ".Hello, In Jhon they are in the passover dinner a feast of God conmemorating the day when they sacrificed the lamb and the Lord passover the house and didn't killed the first born of the house that had the blood of the lamb. Jesus is our passover lamb like is said in letters from the apostles. The washing of the feet appears as a purification ritual(we can see it in the Law of God) and Jesus washingvtheir feet denotes the servant statute he had( 1Samuel25 41And she rose and bowed with her face to the ground and said, “Behold, your handmaid is a servant to wash the feet of the servants of my lord.” ) When someone was impure from a particular disease, menstruation, sexual fluids...as the Law says they washed their whole body and their clothes and waited for the predetermined period of time depending on the particular situation, this meant they could not go into the temple, the presence of God is there and he is Holy and Pure, denoting our sinful nature and just all the sin that is not ours that affects our lives put us further from God, nonetheless it was only in those specific situations that are mentioned in the law.Hello, In Jhon they are in the passover dinner a feast of God conmemorating the day when they sacrificed the lamb and the Lord passover the house and didn't killed the first born of the house that had the blood of the lamb. Jesus is our passover lamb like is said in letters from the apostles. The washing of the feet appears as a purification ritual(we can see it in the Law of God) and Jesus washingvtheir feet denotes the servant statute he had( 1Samuel25 41And she rose and bowed with her face to the ground and said, “Behold, your handmaid is a servant to wash the feet of the servants of my lord.” ) When someone was impure from a particular disease, menstruation, sexual fluids...as the Law says they washed their whole body and their clothes and waited for the predetermined period of time depending on the particular situation, this meant they could not go into the temple, the presence of God is there and he is Holy and Pure, denoting our sinful nature and just all the sin that is not ours that affects our lives put us further from God, nonetheless it was only in those specific situations that are mentioned in the law similar to Moses being the only one who could see Gods face in His time,the other where far away physically, from the mountain and in their hearts as we can see when he mentions anonimously Judas (here is an example: Leviticus 14 8 And he who is to be cleansed shall wash his clothes and shave off all his hair and bathe himself in water, and he shall be clean. And after that he may come into the camp, but live outside his tent seven days. And on the seventh day he shall shave off all his hair from his head, his beard, and his eyebrows. He shall shave off all his hair, and then he shall wash his clothes and bathe his body in water, and he shall be clean.) Now,they were already cleaned, they only needed a washed (Here is the reference: Exodus 40 30He set the basin between the tent of meeting and the altar, and put water in it for washing, with which Moses and Aaron and his sons washed their hands and their feet. When they went into the tent of meeting, and when they approached the altar, they washed, as the Lord commanded Moses.) This was the preparation fo the communion with his body and blood (Let's remember as is said in the letters from the apostles that we should be conscious about the discerment of His body, Holy,pure, innocent, sinless paralel to was entering in the temple in our Gods presence and droping death so is the one that has communion with our Lord and dosn't know that He is the clean one and that we must wash (now that we know physically and in our hearts)before being so close to him ( (Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29 For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself.) This is to be done in His remembrance at the set time given by our Lord at passover.

Hi Marie, we absolutely do not teach that head covering symbolizes "man's superiority over women." Complementarians (like us) teach that both men and women are equals. Different gender roles (which the symbol points to) doesn't affect value/worth in the same way a police officer is not superior to the citizen though he has an authority the citizen does not have.

@@headcoveringaww, you are so sweet to reply 🌷🌷🌷 I am not aware of the complementarian denomination. Do all women wear headcoverings with this group? (Like the orthodox Mennonites?) Your view is far more favorable but as far as I am aware the original biblical teaching on headcoverings (1 Corinthians 11) teaches man's superiority over women like Christ is superior over man and God over Christ. But as i said, i have a lot of respect for women who want to show their faith visibly (i wear the hijab Islamic headscarf). It has a lot of inner beauty that reflects the heart of the person with their desire to follow God. I have a high respect for headcoverings of different faiths 🌷🌷🌷

Marie Khalaf I was saddened by that too at first! I actually cried and wondered why God loved me less because I was a woman and should be seen and not heard. But that’s not true at all! We cover, symbolically that husbands are our heads, and for single woman God alone is their head. But that doesn’t mean the husband should be abusive to their wives! All over the Bible we see men must love their wives! In Song Of Solomon, we see love expressed! In Esther, we see how much the king loved her and was willing to give her whatever she desired. In the New Testament, when Joseph wanted to divorce Mary because he thought she was pregnant because of sinful reasons, he wanted to send her off quietly to not disgrace her. In several of Paul’s epistles, we see that men are too love their wives and treat them with respect! It’s a two way street!

@@marie2859 "For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels." 1 Corinthians 11:7-10

@Peter Peter Amen 100% a command. Why do people desire to twist scripture? Its black and white and for the ANGELS

Here is a short defence: www.headcoveringmovement.com/articles/where-are-head-coverings-to-practiced-in-church-or-everywhere Chapter 12 in "Head Covering: A Forgotten Practice for Modern Times" goes into this in much more depth. Available at christianheadcovering.com

Hats are headcoverings! The Bible never gives a specific length, and it never said that hair being a woman’s glory is a *bad* thing! The head is most symbolic, plus Paul also mentioned braided hair!

Hi DK, our definition of Greek words should come from lexicons that are built off NT usage as well as other documents from that era. Wayne Grudem has done a lot of good working defending the definition of "authority/headship" as opposed to "source". You can read one of his articles on that here: www.waynegrudem.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/does-kephale-mean-head-or-authority-over.pdf

I do not respect Wayne Grutem’s work. He is not a complementarian although he may say he is. He’s a local seminary prof at a seminary near us and I’ve met many of his (not Christ’s) disciples. He is a subordinationist. I know because that is exactly the fruit of his disciples at the church where I worked at for two years who espoused the doctrine taken out of context about women not speaking in church and about headship (which isn’t even a biblical word) that Grudem drives in with a sledge hammer. The women were severely abused at this church especially the single women. They were mentally and emotionally broken by their authoritarian husbands, leaders and elders. I was verbally and emotionally abused as well working there at that church; the emotional turmoil that I experienced from working for the elder I was under nearly drove me to a mental break down and I had to take a lot of sick days unpaid because of all the physical stress I was under. Be careful that you do not believe what people write down on paper, you need to look for the fruit of the lives of these people who preach what they preach. This was a very well-known church. In fact, it has a seminary and a college associated with the man (not Christ) who built it. They now actually preach that you can still be saved after you take the mark of the beast. They have really lost their spiritual and biblical minds and their hearts are now quite hard. This and Calvinism are the doctrines that destroyed them I’m quite sure.

Mahmoud alnashar you comment is ignorant. The Christian Headcovering can show hair and can be of multiple styles and doesn't need to cover our faces. Plus Islam is a false religiong who's prophet stole stories from the real propbets of GOD but twisted the TRUTH.. Judaism and Christianity are the Same religion when speaking of the Messianic community. If you want to love the one true GOD you haven't found him yet allah is a false god. Muhammad was an evil man who followed many people. He was immoral and not like Any of GODS real prophets who performed miracles and prophesied things that muhammad copied and twisted. Study the prophets and you will see the truth! That is why Islam is not respected. Even Muhammad himself was friends with the Jews and traded with them and did not begin hating them until they would not except his evil teachings or serve the god of this world as he did. When the Jews and Christians rejected him he in turn began calling them infidels and began persecuting GOD'S people! History has all this recorded study it and see. But you probably won't because Islam tells you to never question it. Because its founder even knew he was no prophet and it would be discovered to be a huge fraud and a twisted knock off of the ONE TEUE Faith that does worship GOD. And Muslims try to decieve Some Cbristians saying we serve the same god Yet it is written in your own unholy book that you do not worship what we worship and that your god is not our god. People are waking up and MANY muslims are learning the truth and converting to Christianity daily because they have a desire to serve the ONE TRUE GOD. The god of this world is satan and it is written that he comes to LIE, KILL & DESTROY and if you honestly consider the teachings of Islam. Those 3 things are exactly what Islam teaches it's followers to do..

@@kristinamartz348 - You are truly the ignorant one.

Let us spread love than hate ❤️ religion and politics is one of the most complicated issues that we shouldn't discuss with someone else specially if you're both having different religion. Instead of arguing, let us try to support and respect each other's beliefs ❤️

@@ihnamallari8840 - I agree with you.

@@ihnamallari8840 You are really respectful and decent. People like you spread love and peace.

No one said it did.

The Holy Spirit is the One who inspired the Apostle Paul to write the biblical instructions about head covering.

@@headcovering The Apostol Paul wrote 13 of the 23 books of the NT Bible, are you following all of them or pick & choosing the ones that make you feel Holy ..??? You'd better focus on the important part = 1 Corinthians Chp 12 thru 14, this is what the Body of Christ should look like.! Holy Spirit = Hagios Pneuma, Holy Breath of God, there is no Trinity in the Bible, the Disciples Baptized in the "Name" of "Jesus". Your head covering can't save you, only obedience to everything the Holy Spirit says.. Galatians 5:9 Ephesians 5: 22. Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the Saviour of the body. 24. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything. .. Titus 2: 1. But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: 2. That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience. 3. The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; 4. That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, 5. To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed. . . 1 Corinthians 14 34. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 36. What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 37. If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the COMMANDMENTS OF THE LORD... . . 1 Corinthians 11 . But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. 4. Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head. 5. But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven. 6. For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. 7. For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

@@NilsWeber-mb5hg Then quit acting like it does and focus on what is important - 1 Corinthians Chp 12 thru 14, this is what the Body of Christ should look like.

It's impossible to change the Bible Mima. We'd really encourage you to think through how you change a decentralized text that spread quickly to many different parts of the world in many languages. How can you change a text when you can compare manuscripts? Manipulation is only possible if the Bible is under the control of a singular authority and all other transcripts are destroyed. That's the history of the Qur'an, not the Bible.

@@headcovering LOL! Well isn't that a balanced, objective perspective. The fact that you honestly think that a text such as the bible is excluded from the possibility of IMMENSE manipulation is actually hilarious. Some of the world's most respected theologians have confirmed that it is nay impossible that the bible has not be altered since it's origin. I would also argue that a Christian should not immediately seek to discredit other religious texts in order to try and prove a point, it just makes your argument even more flimsy than it already is.