I would like to add my two cents here after reading this discussion. First of all I believe we should follow the teaching in 1st Corinthians 11, I don’t think there is a separate verse that would null what Paul wrote in chapter 11. The main problem here is the misunderstanding of 1st Corinthians 11 altogether. I also have made an intense study of this passage, and the obvious conclusion is that Paul was referring to long hair being the covering. The first thing one should take notice is the lack of wording required to conclude that a veil is being referred to here. The word veil or cloth is not in the text if we read from the King James version. If you read from the “modern” versions then you might get that view but not from the Textus Receptus. I would like for you to reread the verses that allegedly refer to a veil which is 4-7 and 13. In those verses we read the words, cover, uncovered and not covered. According to scholars these are used as adverbs. Like if you were to say I am going to cover my feet. No one should be thinking of a veil just the action of being covered. What is missing in these verses are nouns that would prove the idea of veils. Since we should not be assuming anything we should be asking the question what is the thing that a woman should be covered WITH based on the passage ALONE? So if you do the math you would find that Paul refers to hair directly 3 times and then indirectly 4 times with the words shorn and shaven. So if there is no noun for the word veil or cloth yet there are 7 instances of idea of hair, then what are we to conclude? That Paul is referring to hair whether it be short or long. But the counterargument would be that Paul is allegedly telling women to put something on. But that is not exactly true it says a woman should be covered, but he is referring to long hair based on the surrounding verses. But what about that a woman ought to be covered when praying or prophesying? The assumption is a that Paul was referring to only two instances which is not true he was merely giving us two examples. This also applies to men about being uncovered. Evidence of this is written in the forgoing verses. Paul writes that men ought not to cover because he is the image and glory of God. And then Paul goes into how woman was made for man and is the glory of the man. So it would seem that man shouldn’t be covered at any time if he is the glory and image of God. Paul also mentions that the mere observation of a praying woman should make us note how uncomely (unappealing in appearance) for a woman to be uncovered. Paul states this in a way that it should be obvious to anyone that she looks off in verse 13. He does this again in verse 14 about how shameful it looks if a man has long hair. He says it this way… Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? KJV So this judgement that we should make is exclusively based on observation of an “uncovered” woman as well as a long haired man. Two consecutive questions both appealing to something innate or within us. Paul is in essence saying that it should be obvious to see that something is wrong or off. So how is it that for the women we are somehow to know within us that a woman would be unappealing in appearance without a manufactured veil? That does not seem logical especially since the word veil is never mentioned. Unless that is not what Paul is meaning but rather that if the woman was not covered in long hair (meaning her hair is short) doing something holy or godly LIKE praying or prophesying. I think most people can relate that looking at a woman with short hair does have an unappealing appearance. It naturally provokes head turns. And if there was any question Paul flat out states what he was talking about in verse 15. So the facts are that there no nouns to use as evidence of a veil. There is evidence that Paul was using praying and prophesying as examples. Paul appeals to nature and something innate within us to judge that being uncovered or covered (meaning having short hair or long hair) should be obvious to all. So this cannot make sense with a manufactured veil.

@lw6138 Hi! Nice to hear from another lady who covers in Arizona!

I would like to add my two cents here after reading this discussion. First of all I believe we should follow the teaching in 1st Corinthians 11, The main problem here is the misunderstanding of 1st Corinthians 11 altogether. I also have made an intense study of this passage, and the obvious conclusion is that Paul was referring to long hair being the covering. The first thing one should take notice is the lack of wording required to conclude that a veil is being referred to here. The word veil or cloth is not in the text if we read from the King James version. If you read from the “modern” versions then you might get that view but not from the Textus Receptus. I would like for you to reread the verses that allegedly refer to a veil which is 4-7 and 13. In those verses we read the words, cover, uncovered and not covered. According to scholars these are used as adverbs. Like if you were to say I am going to cover my feet. No one should be thinking of a veil just the action of being covered. What is missing in these verses are nouns that would prove the idea of veils. Since we should not be assuming anything we should be asking the question what is the thing that a woman should be covered WITH based on the passage ALONE? So if you do the math you would find that Paul refers to hair directly 3 times and then indirectly 4 times with the words shorn and shaven. So if there is no noun for the word veil or cloth yet there are 7 instances of idea of hair, then what are we to conclude? That Paul is referring to hair whether it be short or long. But the counterargument would be that Paul is allegedly telling women to put something on. But that is not exactly true it says a woman should be covered, but he is referring to long hair based on the surrounding verses. But what about that a woman ought to be covered when praying or prophesying? The assumption is a that Paul was referring to only two instances which is not true he was merely giving us two examples. This also applies to men about being uncovered. Evidence of this is written in the forgoing verses. Paul writes that men ought not to cover because he is the image and glory of God. And then Paul goes into how woman was made for man and is the glory of the man. So it would seem that man shouldn’t be covered at any time if he is the glory and image of God. Paul also mentions that the mere observation of a praying woman should make us note how uncomely (unappealing in appearance) for a woman to be uncovered. Paul states this in a way that it should be obvious to anyone that she looks off in verse 13. He does this again in verse 14 about how shameful it looks if a man has long hair. He says it this way… Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? KJV So this judgement that we should make is exclusively based on observation of an “uncovered” woman as well as a long haired man. Two consecutive questions both appealing to something innate or within us. Paul is in essence saying that it should be obvious to see that something is wrong or off. So how is it that for the women we are somehow to know within us that a woman would be unappealing in appearance without a manufactured veil? That does not seem logical especially since the word veil is never mentioned. Unless that is not what Paul is meaning but rather that if the woman was not covered in long hair (meaning her hair is short) doing something holy or godly LIKE praying or prophesying. I think most people can relate that looking at a woman with short hair does have an unappealing appearance. It naturally provokes head turns. And if there was any question Paul flat out states what he was talking about in verse 15. So the facts are that there no nouns to use as evidence of a veil. There is evidence that Paul was using praying and prophesying as examples. Paul appeals to nature and something innate within us to judge that being uncovered or covered (meaning having short hair or long hair) should be obvious to all. So this cannot make sense with a manufactured veil.

@ilovecatsijustlovecats3944 Snap clips help to keep on a wide headband. There are also headbands for sale that are attached to an actual *plastic* headband (the fabric part hangs off the back of it). You can also try sewing in a small comb to the top of a headcovering to help it stay on. And, there are velvet headbands you can wear underneath your regular headcovering to help keep it in place. You might be interested in browsing the online stores we have listed on our site, since some of these sell the items I just mentioned: www.headcoveringmovement.com/articles/where-to-buy-head-coverings-online

@godswarriors7543 To answer the question at the bottom of your response, "If the head of woman is the man, then why isn't the man's head covered?": The biblical and most straightforward response would be that it is not commanded by Scripture (in the New Testament) for men to cover their heads while praying or prophesying.

@@headcovering Him in you, you in Him? Jesus is The Word, John 1:1-5 The Word God spoke: Exodus 20:1 The Word God wrote: Deuteronomy 4:13 and The Word God made flesh John 1:14 Jesus is the law that hung on the cross as well as the law God wrote upon our heart. If Jesus is in you, you must get in Him. Our directions are found in Deut. 6:8-9. It is for all the children of God. The Father and Son are one.

@donnawiseman3686 Paul was inspired by the Holy Spirit to write what he did, so everything in the New Testament that Paul wrote is the word of God, not merely of Paul. As such, it deserves to be obeyed. Also, the reasons God (through Paul) gives for headcovering are based on principles which are found *throughout Scripture*, not just in this one place. The following study might be helpful for clarifying what the Bible teaches about headcovering: www.headcoveringmovement.com/study

@ellena1838 Here are a couple articles from our website which may be helpful: Why Head Covering Was Not a Jewish Custom www.headcoveringmovement.com/articles/head-covering-not-jewish-custom If Paul appelas to the Creation Order, why didn't Eve wear a Head Covering? www.headcoveringmovement.com/articles/why-didnt-eve-wear-a-head-covering The second article specifically addresses the difference between practices instituted under the Old Covenant vs. practices instituted under the New Covenant.

@willardswelding7243 Here at HCM, we do not promote one specific denomination. This is one video out of many other videos, quotes, and articles that are posted for their interest value, and because they support headcovering. We agree that the Bible is our sole authority, and that is where we get the headcovering teaching.

@laurenthompson3424 It is common for women to feel nervous when they first start covering. That's okay! Just try again next time. :) How neat to hear that the sermon you heard at your church spoke to you about the very issue you were dealing with!

@blessedrthosesermount99 Here at HCM, we focus primarily on headcovering. Some women who wear headcoverings wear skirts and dresses only, while others wear pants some of the time. It's up to the husband and wife to decide this issue based upon their understanding of Scripture and their convictions. You've asked some good questions. May the Lord guide you to come to some good answers, based on His Word. :)

@blessedrthosesermount99 Here is an article from our website which answers that question: Should Single Women Wear Head Coverings? www.headcoveringmovement.com/articles/should-single-women-wear-head-coverings

@Gratusgratus Thank you for sharing those thoughts. Glad to hear you agreed with the video.

@b.6184 For those interested in the research/study behind why many women choose to headcover, we recommend reading our study (The Case for Christian Head Covering) and numerous articles, to start with (though we're not the only resource): Study -- www.headcoveringmovement.com/study Articles -- www.headcoveringmovement.com/articles-series On our website, one will also easily find what we believe about the gospel (and legalism). For example: Statement of Faith -- www.headcoveringmovement.com/what-we-believe What's More Important than Headcovering? -- www.headcoveringmovement.com/articles/whats-important-head-covering No Other (Head Covering) Gospel -- www.headcoveringmovement.com/articles/no-other-head-covering-gospel

@@headcovering There are plenty of articles on both sides. A person should always honor their convictions, and you are well meaning, I have no doubt, but the long-term effects of any strict external standard is easy to see for us who come from generations of the practice. It inevitably binds up the souls of people and confuses the next generations in regard to freedom in Christ. Exegetical and historical arguments can be made on both sides as well, and part of of understanding and getting clarity is to look at the fruit of a teaching.

@JESUSISLORD38368 We're sorry to hear about the trouble you've been having. You might be encouraged to know that there certainly are Orthodox Christians who headcover. For example, here is a monastery in Arizona that requires all women to wear a headcovering when entering the monastery (in addition to a very modest dress code): stanthonysmonastery.org/pages/visitors-guides

@StacyMcAfee-so9ip The text says that it is a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven ... so, God wouldn't have us do something on purpose that is shameful. If someone were to be humiliated in that way, it would be as a form of church discipline (though I don't personally know of any examples of this, nor are we saying we support this). But, God's will is rather for us to obey Him by wearing a headcovering while praying or prophesying, and for women to have long hair (and men to have short hair). If we are following His will, there is no need to shave one's hair off.

@bobbyadkins6983 Here are a couple of resources that give our view of whether long hair is the covering, or if it is a piece of fabric: Video-- kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jteqjLSDl9XQdmg.htmlsi=F7XVvsya2mh4dYTM Article -- www.headcoveringmovement.com/articles/is-a-womans-long-hair-her-covering

@@headcovering No thanks. The Bible is pretty clear on it. I'll just stick with the Bible.

@@bobbyadkins6983 That's similar to saying, "I don't want to engage in conversation with you about this." (Smiling in a friendly way, here.) We stick with the Bible, too, but in order for others to understand why we interpret it the way we do, a conversation (or reading articles) is necessary. Believers are a body made up of many members, and we need to hear each other's viewpoints in order to help each other grow in understanding of the Bible -- because sometimes (it happens, right?) we can be wrong in our interpretations. We're just human, after all. It's a bit ironic (friendly smile) that you want others to hear your opinion (and you're not the Bible, are you?) but you don't want to make the effort to understand why we believe what we do. Saying all this in a friendly spirit of brotherly/sisterly conversation. :)

​@@headcoveringI really don't feel like talking about something like this. This Bible is clear enough in my opinion.

@ChristopherAlsruhe-si9ff Here at the Head Covering Movment, we don't idolize anybody, including R.C. Sproul. However, it is interesting for viewers to be aware of what certain respected teachers in Christianity (both in the past and more recently) believe about headcovering. The video is meant to be *informative*. But our main concern is always what the Bible itself teaches. Here is a study which could be helpful for those who want to know what we believe about headcovering, and why: www.headcoveringmovement.com/study

@Looopita Yes, it can be challenging to arrive at church (or anywhere else) looking different. For 11 years, I was the only one who headcovered at our previous church. It felt awkward sometimes, but I kept on going because I was doing it to obey God. When God sees us obeying Him with the right heart, He is so pleased! Just try to keep on remembering that when you feel discouraged. :) ~Jessica

@@headcovering you are right. I continue to wear mine since I know I am being obedient to Gods word. Thank you for the encouragement.

@brianbachinger6357 Actually, we have an article about Samson having long hair: www.headcoveringmovement.com/articles/what-about-men-like-samson-who-had-long-hair Here's another one about whether appropriate hair lengths are dictated by culture: www.headcoveringmovement.com/articles/are-appropriate-hair-lengths-dictated-by-culture On our website, we have many more articles which help explain why we believe in headcovering. We don't promote law-keeping for salvation; we promote obedience to the word of God out of love and gratefulness. For those who are interested, here is an article outlining our Beliefs, Purpose, and Values: www.headcoveringmovement.com/beliefs-purpose-values

Most don’t know that the plan of Salvation is outlined in Acts 2:38. Acts 4:12 confirms it. You can’t go to the book of Romans without going thru the book of Acts of the Apostles for this is how the birth of the New Testament church took place.