Exactly what I was looking for, thank you - history vs functionality vs perceived quality.

Very informative. So many people seem to sneer at ETA and Sellita movements which are clearly fantastic movements. So much snobbery in the world of watches so its great to find someone who knows the reality giving us the facts.

This needed saying. My most reliable pieces are ETA and Sellita. My favourite piece is the IWC MKxvIII. Sellita 300. or ETA 2892-a2. Fabulous movement

I had to skim this the other dnight but this time i'm listening through the whole thing and holy crp does this dude drop some info for person just getting in to paying attention to watch movements (having gotten a Bulova Accutron and studying it's movement). Best history, ETA vs Sellita identification / quality comparison etc of anybody I found on here. I found my movement, fouind it's spec sheets gained an immense new appreciation for my first automatic mechanical watch and an interest to have more Auto-Mechs. Thank you (him) so much.

Both cartel driven Swiss movement brands make great movements

Thanks for this video, it was helpful to educate me on these two movements. I'm glad that I found this channel.

Thanks very much for an excellent video. This is the most detailed explanation of the evolution of both ETA and Sellita movements. I’ve had watches with both and find them to be excellent movements. Please keep these videos coming, they are very helpful to a student of watches and their movements. I have subscribed after seeing just this one video.

This is really great. Very informative. Thank you.

I'm rewatching some of your videos and I like them more and more, thank you for all the information you gave us!

I love this channel. Very well done!

Very thorough and comprehensive. Thanks so much!!

What an excellent video. Extremely informative and needed to enlighten us all. Thank you and I look forward to future videos.

Great explanation on entry movement and basic supply chain knowledge in watch maker industry

I almost clicked away from this video because while the history is interesting on its own, it is the differences I am interested in, then about 20 minutes in was all the information i was looking for. Great video! THANK YOU for posting! Subscribed.

Fantastic! More people should watch this.

AWESOME GREAT JOB, Thank You for the precious and detailed information on the mater, Keep Up The Great Work, Thank You

Great video! Addressed my confusion around ETA and Vouj

Great informational video, thanks!

Great info. Thank You!

Lot of Eterna caliber become ETA movements. Eterna is a great Brand with huge history

Nice one. We need more of this

Very informative! Thank you.

Excellent video!

Just found this. Excellent video.

Very good info, thanks!!

Great information. Thank you.

Superb vid Sir. Thanks!

Very interesting. Thanks for the info

Thanks 🙏 my friend, it's a great explanation!

Thank you for the informations you provide

Thank you very much for this very educational video🙏🏻

Outstanding!

Great video very informative 👍

Very informative, thanks.

Excellent video.

Super video thank you

Great info. Well said.

I had never had a watch with Sellita movement; however, before I had owned three Tissots PRS and Visodate. Now I am wearing a watch with NH35 Seiko movement. I did like the "Swiss made" in my Tissots; however, my new watch is very accurate(NH35), with sapphire and ceramic insert, and it is working amazingly. Besides, it cost less than the former watches I had owned.

Great information . Now I will find out what is in my Steinhart Ocean one 39 mm . Thank you

Very educational for somethinkong about buying a Christopher ward sealander. Thank you.

Well done sir.

Damn! Thank you so much for this video. You are really good!!!!

So at last a real,genuine watch fellah,not a media student,video maker that thought"im gonna make KZfaq clips about watches because they are popular", or those spoilt teenagers with very expensive watches ,gloating on camera,watch them copy what this man is teaching us.

Really good watch.

Thumbs up, and subscribed,. This is just the type of content I was looking for. Straight up horology, minus the fluff. Thank you for your efforts, and sharing your extensive knowledge base with us novice's.

Bravo & thanks

Very well made!

Great video thanks very much. 🇬🇧

Excelente!

Thank you

Excellent review!!! I subscribed too- thank you!!

Thanks so much for posting this.just yesterday I purchased a new tudor black bay 36,when I got home I read an article on a watch site that stated the possibility of a sellita instead of an eta inside.i was gutted initially but after watching your video and other videos and reading articles my fears have been largely allayed. This was so interesting and well explained,I will now go through your back catalogue. Thanks once again..

Thanks so much for these comprehensive Video(s) pt.2 What is the little Pilotswatch on the shelve? Sinn? I Love it!!

amazing video sir, already subscribed

Add to the variety of substitute movements La Joux-Perret (MLJP), with their G100 movement (date) or G101 (no date). I've heard it said that these come with better materials so you're unlikely to get, say, a reversing wheel shredding its teeth. And though it is unidirectional rotor winding, the movement has 68 hours of power reserve. That's why I'm keenly interested in it, because this could shake up the status quo.

Good explanation

Very informative...

Interesting!

Very interesting. Thanks a lot. Subbed.

Yes, Sellita was born out of survival when the swatch group wanted everything in-house and not outsourced. So Sellita started making fantastic movements on their own saving many jobs in the process! ⌚ Am I wrong?

What do you think of the Monaco re-issue movement? The watch design is iconic.

Awesome.

Great Video!! quality info, do you know why ETA movements has engraved V8 - AT 37 ? thanks !

Hi , I’ve got a automatic ETA 2824-2 and when I give it some turns to start my watch the rotor spins at same time! This is a new watch and I didn’t haver happen to my watches ( have a few Sellita and ETA ) can you please advise me what is the problem please? The watch is in warranty 1/2 year very low use ? Can you advise me what should I do ? I’ve contact the brand and they say it me only monday to contact them ! This is a microbrand assembly in Germany with ETA movements! I’m not a watchmaker plus I think the barrel that gives power have some issues, the watch is still running and if I shake it a bit I makes some metal noises? Hope you can help me with this situation! Thank you soo much

Tell me about the microphone. Beautiful.

So in theory the st2130 is sort of the same movement as the sw200. This was very educational. Thank you!

I have a steinheart ocean 1- 2824 movement elaborate...accurate to 3 seconds over two weeks . Can you regulate Miyota 9039..its 8 seconds a day...thanks

if choosing thought which do you pick? I suppose both are really the same. I wonder what watch maker's say?

From personal experience with an SW200 and an SW330, I have no problem with Sellita movements. My 200 runs at around +4s/d, the 330 at +2.5 to +3.5s/d. My third watch has either an SW200 or an ETA 2824 in it (manufacturer doesn't specify which, and I don't want to open the watch just to look). The only thing that bothers me about that is the fact that this third watch is the most accurate I have at +0.5 to +1.0s/d, so it would be interesting to know what's inside. :)

Great talk, very informative. It would have been nice if you talked a little more about Sellita, their history beyond just the quartz crisis or the cutting off of ETA movements, for eg, the fact that they actually started in 1950 and were the major assembler of ETA movements.

It would be very interesting to include the ETA2824 clones made by Sea Gull and Hong Kong Precision Technology with current production from ETA and Sellita.

I have 4 Invictas pro divers with the Eta they have sapphire crystals and swiss made but I hear they are rare because eta would not sell them to Invicta because they were not in the swatch Group?

Great video as usual Sir! On a recent look at a well known watch forum a spat about ETA/SELLITA came up. The watch maker’s comment was a statement that Sellita had “heat treating problems” in some of their movement parts. Is there ANY truth, objectively or anecdotally, about which you are aware that attests to the veracity of this claim? Thanks!

Thank you,thank you,I'm always confused about this,when very expensive brands have no in-house movements its "ok",but when a not expensive brand has an ETA mov, its "nah shit,uts only an ETA mov inside".????

Bonjour! Are you from the South of France?

My son had a Luminox Modern Mariner 6502 with SW 200-1 that had the date wheel break early on.

What about Seiko? This should have been considered when talking bout fully vertically integrated. Even on their less expensive watches.

Rolex never made a thing, they just bought all the companies that they outsourced too. To call them a watch manufacturer pre 2004 is stretching it.

hello, very interesting information about the differences between Selita and ETA. I comment on a situation, I have bought a Victorinox where the eBay website said Eta 2624-2 and I have received it with Sellita sw200-1 . My question is, do I return it or keep it because they are the same with the same qualities of its components ? What would you do ? Would you carry out the procedures by paying the shipping and risking or would you leave it as is because they are the same as the seller says? Obrigado.

Love to see movements you’re talking about rather than just watching you. That’s why other watch reviewers get so popular. As watch lover, we love seeing watch and calibre, not the talk host.

Hello i want to know please i bought two watichs Tissiot one is ETA 2836-2 and the second one is Model POWERMATIC 80.111 it is that watchs good ? i bought as a gift for my family i hope it is good

The reason there are still ETA movements in non SWATCH brands is because the Swiss court system would not allow ETA to hold a monopoly and stop selling to non SWATCH brands.

2:23 isn't Seiko an better example?

Wish I knew which movement I have in my Christopher ward trident pro c60 !

You: “Screw this, I’m not going to try and pronounce German…” Me, an English and Dutch speaker “HA! Now you know how I feel, trying to pronounce French!” In all seriousness, very good video, sir.

Very informative but at the bottom line which of the two is better? I bought a steinhart which was advertised on their website with an ETA2824-2 movement, but when I received it it came with a Selita

Hi, the movements Sellita for exemplo sells in Alliexpress are original or all is fake?. where can i buy a original sellita movement? Thank you and hug

ORIENT makes their won inhouse :-)

Hi! Thank you for a great video! There was a great discussion on one forum in internet about the grade (standart, elabore and top) of ETA 2824 and Sellita SW200, some people said that top grade movements have to be decorated, but as a web site of Sellita says it is not the point how to undestand the grade. There are two different definitions: finishing - how movement is decorated and the escapement grade - technical part. Others say that incablock is used only at top grades of movements. But there was no final opinion. Could you please make a video about grades and how to differ them. For example Tag Heuer Aquarace Calibre 5, some say that it is standart grade Sellita and some that it is top grade (no decoration, but incablock). Thank you!

Always heard problems with Sellita, like over wound problems, uni-directional winding, etc. Hardly heard any problems with ETA movements.

I thought ETA was short for Eterna?

ETA movements absolutely beat up Rolex for decades. The designs were superior design until Rolex recent movements.

I only know ETA as the Basque separatist group.

Now i know that sellita is the maker of eta....

ETA is more accurate than sellita on my watches

Üzgünüm selita taklid ürünü benzetmiş ama materyal zayıf tuz gibi dağılıyor sağlamlık sorun vidalar dişliler dökülüyor birebir benzetme güzel kalite de olursa ETA tarih olur aksi takdirde tüm markalar selitayı kullanan vaz geçeceklerdir selita dan ,ve kendi makinelerini üretmeye başlayacaklar bu selita nın sonu olur 30 yıllık tecrübem doğrultusunda yazıyorum artı ➕ longines ustasıyım ve tag ve bretling Tissot Raymond Weil omega Rolex mont blance Mauric Laxroix gibi deneyimlerim daima mevcut

Skip bullshit intro 0:33

Eta is better

Intro too long

very informative, thank you!