liang is situational, but she can be very strong in some situations

@LycanVonWolf I believe mistshock is quoting the video because he says liang is strong, but obviously disagrees with it. I said she is situational and not to be underestimated. I dont see the wooosh Lycan

@LycanVonWolf probably keep that kiddy shit on Reddit and you won't embarrass yourself like this again

@@admiralampere5513 I feel like it went over your head as well^^

for those who don't understand, it's a sex joke

Still powerful as hell 50% still nets you 300 production from 20 in OPs example.

Play old version!

@@mrbonanza3107 Yeah or just cheat am I right?

yes but that's still a lot

balance is a good thing. the nerf is not unfortunate

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Heheh, that was putting me off using him before. Smug capitalist pig! I'm putting him to good use now though...

And with a powerful name like Magnus? Obviously op

@@mikestarface8571 lol - Magnus looks the part. He gets 50% yields now since this video was made so they obviously curbed his stats due to them being a little over powered. Still a great choice

Thanks, man.

Carthage ?

so shes useless if you play with city states off lol got it still debating whether to get this DLC or not yet.

Playing with city states off is for mouth breathers.

@@Rain_Beau Not any more. Your info is more than a little out of date. The suzerain bonus got nerfed to 20% gold reduction for unit purchases for every encampment district building in the city. For the reason you mentioned I used to try very hard to get Carthage every game. Not any more.

amani is actually very weak early on although envoys are powerful, in every military city state is useful(because of the bonus towards building units which apply to settlers in the capital) later on in the game your buildings can become powerhouses if you have envoys in city states honestly city states are absurd

I recently used his chop overflow mechanic well into the late game when building support units, walls and ships. Getting that early boost is a huge help even when its not as drastic as is shown here. Also on the rare occasion I feel the need to clear a permanent resource like wheat or rice to place a wonder later in the game he comes in really handy. And I think he doesn;t like Amani because he doesn't do military victories, he thinks its more difficult to get the other victory types on diety. And I fully agree with him that outside of a couple of niche applications fisheries are a waste of builder charges.

I'm torn on fisheries. I like them... most of the time. It's a lot of management and timing to get her to a city just when a builder charge is in the same area. maybe it's a bit too much management for the benefit. I usually create fisheries for the obvious tiles (2+ sea resources). Liang doesn't create a "Sea Petra", but she does improve coastal tiles a lot. Overall, I still think that the fisheries promotion is worth getting. I have to overcome my aversion to chopping resources. It's probably holding my game back. I think I plant Magnus because I'm hesitant to chop Wheat/Copper, etc. Potato's vids have been a bit of a shake up for my play style. They're very different from my usual games. I like a bit of warfare, especially in the mid/late game. It breaks up the "nextturnnextturnnextturn" monotony of cultural victories. It doesn't hurt that I can take Pericles/Peter/Catherine out of the running :)

But wouldn't you want the 20% science/culture + 2x GPP dude sitting in your biggest city?

My science and production cities aren't always in the same place. Pingala might wind up in a city with a great campus adjacency bonus. Magnus usually ends up in the city that can reach the most strategic resources. The capital is given to you by the New Game RNG. After that, you can pick city locations for specific needs like production or science. It's weird, but my production cities are usually much smaller than my science/culture cities. They're more specialized, and don't need a lot of population. For example, I'm addicted to the Venetian Arsenal. I know it's bad for me, but I can't stop. I usually pick one city location solely to get this wonder. Whatever other benefit it gives throughout the game is just gravy...

n panth - Yeah, Liang's fisheries ability is one of my favourites, especially if you become suzerain of Auckland and get the coastal production bonus. That combination enables you, over time, to create a "Sea Petra" in every one of your coastal cities.

I'm not too worried about Magnus getting nerfed. Its not a huge deal, we will figure out new strategies.

Was trying to be cute man, obviously it didn't work lol... yes the concept of a strategy game is to adapt and overcome any difficulties with the resources you have available 😀

Anywho, like I said.. good video. I like the way you broke down the strategy with the visual aids too when explaining overflow of production and stuff. I've honestly never seen any civ6 stuff broke down that way and thought it was pretty innovative. Gonna have to get some toilet paper for my nose if I give any more compliments though so I'll shut up. Take care.

Don't stop my ego is insatiable

well I dont think so: maybe they will take away how the policy cards enhance it more. which I would assume is just a simple tweak to the function in when it is added in the formula. like: here is city base prod per round, that gets multplied by policy cards. and if a chop happens that will just be added directly to the building/unit being produced while any overflow is saved for next project of the city but does not receive a multiplier of policy cards. indirekt nerf but so far this mechanic seems too abusable and probably not as intended? Curious if it was.

I believe you could pay to change your policies or click to change policies if it's the right turn, after chopping but before selecting the target for production overflow. Does that sound right?

Reyna with 2 promotions with a commercial hub, city, and harbor adjacent to each other, on a river, plus 2 fish, plus policy cards for harbor and commercial hub adjacencies, plus golden age for science from gold districts, plus a shipyard, equals 30 gold, 30 science, 15 production for free. Combine a 3rd promotion with a population 10 city, and that's 50 gold total. Combine an extra district like a governer plaza, and an extra fish, you can reach 59 gold, 39 science, 17 production for free. That's 115 resources not including what your citizens are working!

S G The gouvernor gives pressure automatically no need to wait the set number of turns

Dmitry Medvedenko It might be the population growth from 4 to 5 population that gives the extra 2.5 production.

Yes, if you look the second time he clicked the city actually had more production (12 instead of 10.5).

Yea

With the overflow, I believe that it will keep overflowing until it is used up completely. So in that case that 40 would get saved. Could be wrong though

some1 please test this

That's how it works. Abused many times. It overflows until completely used

You keep the overflow, it stays in the buffer. I've used this in late game settles to crack out a bunch of infrastructure.

it was nerfed a bit, sorry my guy

It was a strategy in vanilla with Germany, and they would stack throughout all cities. It was ridiculous.

Yes, it works for any number of turns.

jrm78 It did in the previous patch but monarchy no longer gives production towards walls.

Ah. I'll chalk that up to not having Rise and Fall yet - though if they fixed that in Civ 6 vanilla, they should fix the card for Monarchy. Still, I enjoy your videos and find them informative.

io2red o Or if you spawn next to Kandy as Kongo. Sometimes it is useful just for the levy if there is a city state with an army left. Today La Venta in my game had 2 knights and 5 crossbowmen which came in really handy. Flipping La Venta from fighting against me to fighting for me let me win the war and pretty much the game.

Retrospectre any tile of your city can be chopped, when the game came out you were able to chop globally. Those were the good days. Aztec or China were able to get easy science victories on deity in under 150 turns.

I use the Government plaza for the adjacency that it gives. I try to position it between 2-3 cities, with few resources/hills around it. That way, cities can build districts around it and multiple the adjacency bonus. The loyalty bonus is good, but not as important a full adjacency point for other districts.

The government buildings give you a wild card for your government when you build them. Theocracy is like 5 faith per pop in cities with governors and merchant is +10% gold in cities with governors.

its 100% + 100% = 200%, or 2x

Soma the thing is that generally it is more rewarding to get a jumpstart for your civilization than focussing on one or two wonders down the line. Getting out two extra settlers early game is way more powerful in nearly every game. The extra luxuries you get with the additional cities can be sold to get more gold, you can have more campuses or theater squares to start the wonders before anyone else. It is just way more flexible than securing one really good wonder. And if you are ever in the situation that there isn't enough space for more decent cities, chop heavy chariots and archers and you can make all the space you need. ;) I personally love playing hot/wet maps which allow for more chops than standard maps so in some cases you might get lucky and get everything you want. After chopping for settlers in your first 2 cities you still can chop for wonders in the others.

sawnani84 you chop for settlers not for builders though usually from what I’ve found. Just use golden age bonus to buy builders in Liang’s city for faith and then run them over to Maggy for chopping. For ultimate synergy get goddess of harvest belief for faith from chops. I believe magnus doubles the faith you get too. 0 effort great prophet rush.

Certainly thats worth considering, I'd have to try it out.

DarkCrimsonBlade I think he means get Liang, then build a builder, then get Magnus, and use that builder to chop.

The second governor is the librarian and you want to make certain this governor goes into a city that is going to get ALOT of people.

And do not under estimate the value of some of the pantheon choices. That second town is damned nice. But.... if i have a lot of coast.... the work boats is a no brainer. like wise there is great value in some of the others. This is a per turn bonus to features. Depending on what exactly the turf looks like around the capital. That will decide what course is best. and yes. i frequently choose something other then the free town.