At least ten thousand, according to Gladwell.

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Matt Dickey like jazz

jazz guitarists know exactly what they play, do it on purpose in order to create the dissonance and then resolve. it is all about creating tensions and solving them out

adrien Moritz or maybe not resolving it! But either way it's about the intention

she neither

Matt Dickey 2nd piece is flawless and very difficult/ awesomely played

hahahaha

+Mark Griffiths HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY

Omg exactly

+Mark Griffiths lo mismo pense hahaha

+Mark Griffiths agreed. lol

Same

Andre Evan Exactly!!!)

i am classical guitarist and she is crazy(bad) lissten to asturias or capricho arabe or la catedral n.4 or barrius valz nr.3

@Andre Evan Please elaborate me on the boreness, you see? I'm an classical pianist. so don't count me dumb.

Valz nr.4*

Deer Low I think you need an enema.

Deer Low I have lot of classical guitar music on CD and I have to admit that only a few of the pieces in these CDs are really worth listening to. I love the guitar. What she played at the beginning was exactly what I run away from. I lean particularly to the Spanish/Latin sound. Western music for the guitar may have its unique sound. I simply don't relate to it.

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+Deer Low I so agree..

What she was playing is not "Western music for the guitar". Flamenco is western, arrangements of any of the great piano sonatas are western, and they are not boring like the shit she was playing.

+jason_konst 3. That sunburst version is HORRIBLE!

+jason_konst Au contraire , pour des jeunes gens qui ne connaissent pas , il est nécessaire d'apprivoiser son public , et c'est une excellente forme de pédagogie , qui n'a de succès que lorsque le maître sait prendre la décision de " changer de fusil d'épaule " et, ensuite de passer à des choses plus sérieuses . On ne devrait pas toujours réagir en absolu , mais apprendre soi-même respecter son public en fonction de ses difficultés et tres vite , les barrières sont rompues , testez si le coeur vous en dit , c'est magique !

Amen to point number 2. I'm wondering how she got a TED talk. Russian musicians are typically amazing, whoever picked her should be fired from TEDx

exactly, that is also the problem with classical guitar today. Speed but not interpretation. interpretation is everything

Playing this shit is boring.

I did

touché

First piece is also balls to the wall hard to play.

wtf... she butchered Andrew's materpiece.

@@snoop1204 it's not the best performance but how did she butcher it?

i agree with you she did not butcher it, made some errors which were obviously noticebal, wish i could play as well everyone is a critic eh but can they do it themselves@@amyguitar7535

i see 0 0s

danks

Oh my god thank you for this

ty webb THANK YOU YOUNG SIR

found the djent comment. well played, good sir

One more boost for you , watch her play Kouynbaba

signoguns "Size of the audience is irrelevant?" As a "modern artist" myself, size of audience and venue completely has an influence on performance. It is completely relevant. Conversely, historical artists also played the same music "every night." Look at her hand position... her technique is good (not perfect, but still excellent - you can see the stress/tension). Are you trying to say her musicality is "stilted and dull?" I always judge a performance by situation. If you're trying to compare it to a CD, then you have no idea what goes into a recording. When I've record Grammy winning artists, it takes about 2-4 hours to get 1 minute of music, plus another 2-4 hours of editing after that. Only the 1% of 1% of the very best can record a live performance without "error." And I say "error" since there is always something that could have been done better: phrasing, clarity, articulation....

signoguns No problem. I think whenever I write something, it comes off abrasive and rude - even if it's not supposed to be. I think I lack charisma with the written word. So, I apologize for that. It's not the best performance I've seen (and on some concerts, I've performed Sunburst better than this one), but I'm sure her consistency way beyond my ability. If there was any defensiveness in my post, it was to counteract all the other negative comments on her playing.

Those were some consciouss responses! For me, it was good Besides the kind of tunes she played (which are not of my prefference) classical fingerstyle is a not a simple technique, it requires some practice and discipline to master it. And that's the reason why I clicked on this video. I'm also a guitar player and surely it was an amazing experience to her, to be heard by a big crowd. At least, I would be pretty scared :P

'wrong note'? please explain this theory?

Sean Emmett Her hand shifted to a wrong position on the neck (wrong fret) at one point, which caused the "wrong notes." It happens. If you look at her face, she didn't show it emotionally. That's professionalism.

Lol I wanted to say the same thing :))

Ikr, I started off with the electric, now I love my classical.. Its so organic and heavenly!!

yeah , you drop this commend 2 year ago. until now classical guitar never get old

I personally don't like the first piece, but I think you're right. One would probably enjoy the song more if they listened to the first piece like one would listen to classical music

If you have to explain a piece...you've failed as both a player and composer.

XaviMas She's Russian what did you expect?

Ihaba S Russians aren't a race you fucking moron.

XaviMas agreed

Ihaba S Your point that you are a moron? I think everyone got it.

Ihaba S No. Again. Russian isn't a race. You are not right, because you are 100% wrong. How stupid are you?

Absolutely

Got better at the end! Even better after the end...

The part where she talked or her arm fat jiggled was much more pleasing that anything she was trying to get the guitar to do.

The Trignaught lol

Finally someone who thinks that it is interesting.. I find it quite interesting actually cause it was related to the story..

+William Roy Keane Yes, it was great how that song's purpose was first and foremost to tell a story and I was glad that she explained what was going on

Actually... Hehehe... She doesn't have such a good sense of timing. She kept missing when she tried to connect the riffs in both songs. Intermediate player at best.

+Eric G You guys are focusing on her skill as a guitarist...her talk is entirely on the idea that classical guitar is an underrated and under-utilized instrument. She may not be perfect but she introduces something new, that most don't think about, or haven't thought about with this instrument

+Garrett Hoefer I disagree entirely. Classical guitar is used tremendously in most songs. She is not introducing something new. She's introducing something old. Something that most "music" nowadays don't follow because it doesn't really sell. Sorry to say my friend but your argument is without serious thought. I appreciate classical quite and as a musician who plays both classical guitar, base, keyboards, harmonica, and a singer, I can tell you that indeed classical guitar is everywhere. Now... I can criticize her playing because she's performing to the Internet. If I was at her level of playing, I would not have performed because if be EMBARRASSED to perform so poorly. Music has to move you. And she fails to do so due to her lack of technical skills.

+Armağan Aydın Aydoğdu dude idk if it has anything to do with her being Russian that sounds like ur baggage to me. bit racist... but yeah maybe idk probably not

+Armağan Aydın Aydoğdu lololol I respect your modesty

+Armağan Aydın Aydoğdu So you can see from her looks and accent that it was her fault the mic was badly setup, and not some unexperienced guy who maybe ever never worked before with acoustic instrument? Your "professional observation" is that it is "typical russian bevaviour"? What an idiot you are. Do you even know if they had a neck mic? You don't need a vacation dude, you need a lobotomy.

With lobotomy, nothing is removed, and in your particular case there is probably not much to remove either. Yeah there are lot of idiots and ignorant morons around the world, you are definitely a proof.

+Whyaminotanonymous Likeeveryotherpussyquestionmark Nobody is perfect, yet I don't need graphical language to make myself clear, while you obviously can't even express yourself decently.

Lenny Leonardson Yeah, these pieces are an odd representation of classical guitar repertoire. I guess that's the world we're living in now'a days, eh? "Different" and "Unique" are considered better than the snobbish repertoire of yesterday. Hehe.

Lenny Leonardson true

Scott Bakula Yeah no it isn't. They have no soul and are obsessed with technique but have no passion or originality. As a group, from what I've seen, no swing, no groove, no allure, no pain ever comes through. It's a style which is almost inevitable when not having any particular vision or message, but also playing the guitar obsessively all of the time. It's played by people who are unadventurous and predictable as listeners, but doggedly driven in terms of practicing. I don't know what you think is "phony" about that. really, I don't think you actually think it's phone either, but for whatever reason you wanted to undercut what I said. Besides all that it's just the whitest guitar playing style in the entire world. and pretty much everybody doing it sounds like an uninspired version of Steve Howe or Leo Kottke. Or a combination of the two.

Scott Bakula And your reply sounds like the prudish passive-aggressive insecurity of an aging and irrelevant musician who hides their complete lack of lyricism and inspiration and soul behind a towering wall of right-hand exercise hours. Which "teenage indie guitarists" have you interviewed on this subject again? I've never heard a single "indie guitarist" make "excuses" for being "underpracticed" from any band, in my life, it sounds like you're haphazardly applying cliches that you read in some out-of-touch magazine article on "indie rock" in 1996. That perception of the genre, especially today, sounds hopelessly desperate and square. "Indie rock" if there ever was such a thing, is easily the genre that attracts the *most* music-major types. We're talking about the genre of Sufjan Stevens and Sun Kil Moon. Tallest Man on Earth, Fang Island, the Dodos. These are guys who could run through just about anything without breaking a sweat, but they also have a message, they have an atmosphere, they have an attitude. A large percentage of the "indie" music community are not just well-practiced, they are some erudite motherfuckers. To attribute "sloppy and unpracticed" to this genre is to basically come out and say "I'm a doughy-faced dad with my shirt tucked into my pants and I haven't really 'tuned in' to what's going on in music in 15 years or more, so I really, really have no idea what I'm talking about." And I wasn't talking about signed musicians, really. If you look back at my original post, I was mostly talking about youtube guitarists. Additionally, there are plenty of "fingerstyle" guitarists that I do like, even ones who favor virtuoso displays. I'm not talking about people who incorporate and utilize certain techniques in order to *accomplish a distinct and meaningful musical goal.* I'm talking about a very specific, very exhausting, and very very extensive trend in amateur guitar playing which seems designed to be complex while being mostly vacuous which is not doing the next generation any favors. It's still not even remotely a "phony criticism." There is, indeed, a shitload of irony in your calling it a "phony criticism." This kind of music, overwhelmingly, has no primal element, it has no emotive element, which is indeed why I believe a lot of people love it. It's a clinical, asexual. It's depressing. The players mostly approximate detached, trite sketches of "happy song" or "kinda sad song" in the most rote fashion possible with a thousand curlicues and hammer-ons and unnecessary notes. Observe the piano technique of a six-year-old Japanese girl who started doing drills when she was 2. It's the KIND of style that a 2 year old could master, because it relies in absolutely no way on emotional maturity, or subtlety, or poetic expression. You don't have to be cool, or wise, or interesting, or eccentric, or charismatic, or empathetic to play it. You don't have to have anger, or sadness, or any emotion really. You don't have to have swagger. You don't have to offer anything as a person, other than the hours you spent memorizing patterns. It should be obvious why youtube nerds favor the style. You know who can practice for four hours a day if they choose to? *Virtually any human person.* Do you know who can write music with personality, with intuitive and expressive melodies which are not just scale-wandering and convoluted elaborations on themes everybody has already heard a thousand times? *A very, very, very small percentage of the guitarist population.* And with that, we have stumbled on the difference between a learned skill, and a true talent. Beyond all that? And regardless of all that? The most elite players are, overwhelmingly, the kind who want to make actual art. People in "indie rock" bands, who don't necessarily treasure laser-precision, or flashy superfluous playing, almost universally are making a decision about style, and prioritizing, not in any way covering up for a lack of ability. That is a deluded perspective, which itself seems to be preoccupied with making excuses. Your vision of the snotty "indie" player who makes excuses for not mastering their instrument is *fantastically* out of touch. And "sappy love song"? What? Were you trying to think of the most ridiculous strawman that you could? Do you recall that you responded to me in the first place because I said *this* piece is superior to that style? How could you possibly go from that to "wat everything has 2 b a sappy luv song now???" What are you talking about exactly? Beneath your veneer of composure, you are as petty and resentful as any youtube troll. But it is borne of an anxiety that I think I can understand, and for that I can forgive you.

1Joren See I would think that's sincere, because...hell, I just read back through my post and damn, I hit 'em up didn't I? But I see that you were one of the first people to disagree with me, so perhaps you are being "bitingly facetious"

May I ask you why you feel the urge to prove yourself and your favored style of playing music over others? Also I'm curious, what fingerstyle/tapping guitarists are you talking about exactly that you think is unimaginative and overpracticed? I feel like overpracticed isn't really the right choice of words. Technique-focused and by that losing sense of melody, harmony and soul, that I understand. There's definitely guitarists that lose themselves in showing off technique if that's what you're talking about, it's always a pity to see that happen.

1Joren Like I said before, I'm talking about "youtube guitarists" which are mostly semi-anonymous if not effectively totally anonymous. Go on stumbleupon and choose "music" as your interest and you'll see a teenager doing this style within a few clicks. I don't have a problem with fingerstyle playing. Sun Kil Moon, The Dodos and Tallest Man on Earth are all mostly fingerstyle players. But while they're all undeniably virtuosos, they play with restraint and economy and expression. When someone becomes as competent as some two-handed guitar players get - i'm talking about people who play nylon string guitars so they can slide around and fingertap more easily and do a ton of hammer-ons with both the left and right hand - it's easy to create a flurry of diatonic notes that makes the internet go "omg so amazing" which is just kind of irritating. More is said with a handful of notes by so many people, and too often those people are dismissed, often by fools like "Scott Bakula" because they don't willfully employ flashy technique to give the impression of musicality....when really....you're talking about a machine-like process of muscle memory and mechanical dexterity, which can be learned by anyone with time to spare and is nothing special. That's what I see in 90% of these players. They're playing all these overstated arpeggios full of hammer-ons and offs and meaningless tapping digressions in order to inundate the listener with notes that are technically all correct, allowing people who don't really care about melodic craftsmanship to sort of imagine any number of riffs or harmonies that are agreeable to them. I wouldn't say "indie" is my style really, because I don't really think it is a style considering it gets applied to bands that have a classic rock sound, or a serrated dissonant guitar sound but no metal drums or screaming, or a power-pop sound, or an electro-pop sound, or a slacker or lo-fi sound, it's pretty meaningless. I do spend a lot more time thinking about how to craft melodies and studying music than running through exercises or scales, but the rough edges are more incidental than stylistic.

+Dee Thomas I agree. Bad song choice.

+Dee Thomas Yep. HAHAHAHAHAH!

+Dee Thomas is to you

Heeheee but fingerpicking sure is hard

+Dee Thomas she might be talented but i must say that i agree with you.

She definately isin't the good person to show the bests feels of classical guitar. She is not playing with her soul even though she is a decent player.

BlueParadoxical I

I actually don't see any insults. I see very reasonable feedback about the quality of the talk. It was not about the strange pieces, it was about her presentation, that was boring and mundane. I mean, before playing the toy soldier's piece she decided it would be somehow interesting to talk about the plot of some story for children. All of this sounded like a very boring music theory class. She is clearly a very skilled player and not a very skilled presented.

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BlueParadoxical verry well said. Same here. She's good but not everyone is convinced. Firdt impressions lasts. Sad :(

It's the type of guitar she is playing, a classical guitar

An acoustic nylon string guitar.

RedTriangle53"An acoustic nylon string guitar." yes, commonly referred to as a classical guitar.

C Anton There's nothing classical about it except for the style of music which is usually played on it. In classical times, guitars used gut strings and varied in shape, number of frets and number of strings. It's not a "classical guitar piece" unless it's actually a classical piece. You could call it a modernistic guitar piece. Or whatever.

wow. nobody is arguing with you here. no one has said anything about the pieces of music being classical as they clearly are NOT. what are you on about??? you're trying to correct people on semantics and all i'm saying is that calling a nylon string acoustic guitar a classical guitar is not wrong...it's like string bass, bass fiddle, bass violin, contrabass, bass viol, stand-up bass, bull fiddle....all refering to the same instrument....and i swear to god if i have to start lecturing you on fiddle vs violin bridges i'll be sick....screw this! it's snowing i'm going snowboarding

Perry Mike Pretty much the opposite. I found the first one very interesting because it really explores all the kind of sounds that you can produce with a guitar to tell different aspects of a story The second one was "beautiful" but became boring pretty early. I was hoping for it to end soon rather to keep going on

Thank you, no, really :v

the song's name ?

+John Heyen but plays the same chords over and ovver

+Doktor Jekyll van Hyde Song to song ya he does, a lot of them start to sounds pretty similar. His long version on internal flights is a very complex song tho, what he is great at is controlling the energy throughout a long song. Everything I listen to it I notice a different aspect

John Heyen well i definitely wouldn't say that he's a bad musician. but i personally don't like it that much - tastes vary

+John Heyen Estas Tonne just has his own "cool" style, however, from technical standpoint his songs are mediocre.

+John Heyen YES!

It sound like dogshit

I think she is an amazing guitarist.

Don't be so disingenuous. The first piece was avant garde and almost by definition unlikely to be popular. I play guitar myself and love guitar music but while I can recognize skill and technique I'd be lying if I said it gave me pleasure.

+William Arnold Comparing the audience's responses between song 1 and 2 tells us that people prefer that "dripping with honey" and turn off to dissonance and anything not readily recognizable. (a polite, obligatory response as opposed to a genuinely enthusiastic one)

+Ray Howell Sure, I understand that. I was referring to the comments section reaction, among musicians and fans who were attacking the piece as if it had no merit, were an abomination. I understand not liking it, but especially classical guitarists should appreciate the novelty of it, what Koshkin was trying to do with it.

+William Arnold Great Comment, Dude! Although stuff that is dripped in honey is great, because it´s super sweet, anbody loves to get something "á la vinagrette" once in a while.

After listen a few other interpretations, I think her Toy Soldier just wasn't good.

frkkz are you sure about that? Her album was personally endorsed by Koshkin.

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It does pays off

am i right?

Also that was a pretty sloppy performance of Sunburst. Dynamics were good, but her tempo was kinda all over the place and had quite a few bad notes (including the dead ones).

Bronson Bragg her tone was super naily too, not a fan

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Thanks a lot brow! Awesome stuff! As a shot to pay you back, look for Tom Ward, if you´ve never seen him yet!

Agreed. I discovered Candyrat records about 10 years ago and since then they've gotten a ton of great new (and old) guitarists under their umbrella.

I agree 100%. I actually enjoy classical guitar, but I skipped through that first piece. Good redemption on the second song though.

+IMakeThings listen to Schönberg or Wyschnegradsky, both made brilliant forms of playing "wrong". You just didn't understand Toy Soldiers.

+reIONEre I understood perfectly well what the song was trying to convey. However, it felt less like a song, and more like a showcase of unusual classical guitar techniques, loosely connected by a plot. My point is simply that a piece should not sacrifice musicality for technical ingenuity, otherwise it will fail to be appreciated by the audience, which in this case defeats the very purpose of the performance.

+IMakeThings How do you know how this song was supposed to be appreciated? Music is amazing because it can convay a lot of things, not just the things that you enjoy. Some music is ugly because the composer wanted it to, just as some music is beutiful because the composer wanted it.

Bendik Mihle Hansen The purpose of the talk was to prove that classical guitar is not boring. Thus, the performer ought to have chosen songs which would capture the attention of the audience, rather than songs which simply showcase unusual guitar techniques.

+IMakeThings Agreed

except this one though

"Obviously more talented than all of you." Yeah, keep up with that mindset. We're all 'just jealous.'

***** Hendrix sucked. And this particular piece *is* boring.

Omg ,If she is talented ,What is an untalented guitar player !!! HAHAHA

Please, look at yourself first. The more untalented one is you. You can't do anything but say "That whatever is obviously better than anything you could create", I've created better shit than that in friggin Famitracker.

Россия же... :D

lol yeah i know what you mean i love the chaotic complexity with songs but it felt a little boring when she played toy soldiers like it just sounded like literally sounds effects and not enough actual playing ahaha idk ive heard much better pieces than that one that were more chaotic yet still kept it as a more interesting song. and honestly i love dissonance and chaos. my friends hate it most of the time. but yeah im not even a music theory dude idk any theory really. and yeah that first song was shitty. haha like id never wanna learn that shit or play that. lol

That's exactly what was about to happen when I saw this video and then I saw the comment and forwarded it to the next part! and TRUE^^

agreed

Or.. you are listening to something you don't like. Don't bash it.. just browse a different channel.

I said what i thought. I didn't curse. I didn't bash. Just because it sounds that way to me and i said it it doesn't mean i don't like it or something. Maybe i like what a "child who plays the guitar for the first time" sounds like ?

lol.. BS

Demetori 〈3 Well you did bash, or negatively criticize this. So yes,.. BS

DasFittzy guys hes obviously a kid who hasn't played guitar yet, dont bash him,let him find out later how stupid his comment was

Just beacuse something is inovative does not mean it's good. Kinda like this piece of "music"

Vesivian It's hard to get through the first one

It's not really a good example of contemporary harmony either, contemporary doesn't mean it has to sound like ass

By far.

Mozart Kumquat By far !! HA HA HA

Resonator guitars are

Depends on what modern guitar styles you're talking about and how you define "advanced". But yeah classical guitar is pretty awesome.

It really depends. Modern guitar has a thing that classical guitar normally doesn't have and that's tone and it's not soemthing easy to achieve especially when playing in technical ways such as some forms of music like jazz fusion and technical death metal. Classical guitar on the other hand takes advantage of the lack of synthetic tone and uses it to make more raw sounds. Considering technique, classical guitar is more oriented on expanding ideas through shapes normally out of the norm and modern guitar mostly focuses on moving around the neck with dexterity. Both have crazy techniques with the right hand as well. Neither is better in my opinion. Just different

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Ground control to Major Tom. Who you calling old, youngster?

Whether she plays well or poorly, there's no need for rude, moronic comments on a subject that you obviously know absolutely nothing about. It only goes to show your incredible ignorance.

LOL, i hope she didn't study her whole life to play like that!

Islay Rodriguez She sounds wonderful to me. She can play many more songs than just these.