Dont hold back ... lol

@Diesel Johnson Thanks for agreeing with me. Now change your profile picture.

I was confused too...and waiting for him next to say: If a train left Chicago at 11am...

I agree completely. I did a "wait what" when he said 33 then 28. I'm pretty short and my measurement is 29 inches. I'm pretty sure my 6 iron should be shorter, not longer, than standard

I’ve listened 5x and still can’t figure it out!

Thank you for this. I don’t know why it’s so hard for some people. Elementary school math lol

D E Thank you.

@@jantonio1469 8/23/2020 Its so hard, because the speaker is unclear.

I measured myself at 36.25", so I'd actually get my 6 iron 2 inches longer? Holy crap.

@@razerfish Correct. If you've measured yourself at 36"-36.25" you would look at a 39" #6i as a STARTING point to fitting you to the correct length. However, I would also recommend you double-check this carefully as building clubs that long do come with certain issues e.g. total weight, swing weight and on centre hit consistency at that length. As a sanity check you could look at Wrist-to-Floor charts available online and compare the two measurements to check if the WtF charts also have you at or close to 39".

Glad to hear. Thanks for sharing.

Sounds awesome! Looking forward to hearing how well you're hitting them.

Any update on this? Would love to know if it improved as I’m in a similar situation

@@jamesmcgetrick8357 Actually didn't need the lengthening per the opinion of the fitter though my measurements said so. Got heavier shafts and the fitter actually helped me adjust my swing a bit and have been playing much better once I got used to the swing adjustment. The verdict is go see a fitter.

No, you just need to listen carefully

I have a PhD in physics, still dont get it

After playing it ten times I got it

Or don't DIY clubfitting

Thank you for taking the time to watch and for your question (which is a good one). Not really a direct correlation with the driver the same as there is with the irons. In part because irons are for accuracy and the driver is to get distance. However, we do recommend driver lengths in the 44.25-44.75” range and do not believe what the manufacturers are doing is best for golfers; ie making driver upwards of 45.5”-46”. At these lengths many golfers swing speeds actually slow down. The extra length can yield longer drives as a whole but longer into the woods or water doesn’t help you or your game. Hope this helps.

@@Thegolfparadigm Cheers, thanks for the heads up. Shame more manufacturer fitting kits don't have a full shaft selection at these shorter lengths. keep up the good work

Not really. But we did do a video on driver length: ‘Driver Length: Is Yours Correct?’

Very good question. There’s two parts to every fitting; the science - physics, physiology, neurology, biomechanics, etc and how these things relate to one another to help a golfer reach their potential. There’s also reality isn’t hat ‘science’ by definition is merely a form of measurement and mankind hasn’t figured out how to measure everything, at least not yet. To answer your question I would stay with what you measure too bc in the long run your ability to hit all shots will be better enhanced than one you hit well on a day your timing happened to be spot on. There are other factors involved in why the longer one you hit may have been better; tighter quality control of head weight, to shaft flex and shaft profile to what you need instead of what a shaft label says. If you want to make sure staying with what you measure to instead of going to the one you hit better on a given day I would take both lengths out to the course and hit them. I would say over time you will hit the one you measure to better than the longer one. To add, the one you measure to will not negatively effect the rest of your swings; ie hybrid and wood swings while the longer one will eventually disrupt them. Hope this helps.

Thanks. Working on a new updated one that is much better.

Has to do with rotational ratios of the human body. Not everyone is identical but the ratios are very similar. Glad to hear you're hitting it better. Kinda cool how .5" can make a difference isn't it?

The Golf Paradigm cut my driver from 45.5 to 43.5 as well. Hit every fairway gained distance. Center face contact. Incredible

A lot of variables in play on high face strikes and difficult to answer. But, it would tend to be too long of a club instead of too short. Too short will more often than not lead to thin strikes.

Hi @Jim White. I play Wishon EQ1-NX one-length clubs. The measurement of length is one of, if not the most important measurement of a golf club to properly fit the golfer, probably even more crucial with one-length clubs. With one-length clubs typically being built to the length of a #7-iron e.g. Cobra one-length (for the EQ1-NX you can actually choose between either #7i or #8i lengths) and you would use the chart to find your optimal #6-iron length then subtract 0.5" to find your #7i length. For example if your Knuckle-to-Floor was 28" which equates to a 37" #6i, you would best fit a 36.5" #7i length. --- Can clubs be shortened? Yes, but only by someone who knows what they're doing to ensure the swingweight, lie angle and shaft flex of the shortened club are also adjusted accordingly. --- The measurement is based on a 28" knuckle measurement on the ruler equating to a 37" #6i For every 1" above 28" (measured on the ruler) you will add +1/4" to the length of a 37" #6i For every 1" below 28" (measured on the ruler) you will subtract -1/4" from the length of a 37" #6i (a) Measurement on Ruler (b) +/- #6i (@37") (c) Adjusted #6i Length (a) (b) (c) 36" +2" 39" 35" +1.75" 38.75" 34" +1.5" 38.5" 33" +1.25" 38.25" 32" +1" 38" 31" +0.75" 37.75" 30" +0.5" 37.5" 29" +0.25" 37.25" 28" 0" 37" 27" -0.25" 36.75" 26" -0.5" 36.5" 25" -0.75" 36.25" 24" -1" 36" 23" -1.25" 35.75" 22" -1.5" 35.5" 21" -1.75" 35.25" 20" -2" 35" --- Also, please note this is NOT a conversion from manufacturers "standard" lengths. This chart is based on a 37" #6i length being optimal for the bio-mechanics of someone with a 28" Knuckle-to-Floor measurement and represents the 0.25" club length change for optimal bio-mechanics between each 1.00" change of Knuckle-to-Floor measurement. I hope that helps.

End of the club (shaft) when cutting, before putting on the grip.

Your 6I length would be 36.5”-36.75”. Your measurement falls directly in between our exact measurement and why we always have a test hitting session after the static measurement. Length is from the bottom of the club to the butt end when cut. The grip cap will add 1/4” when installed.

Yes I believe manufacturers are getting it wrong. In part due to faulty theories and practices such as determining length by using impact tape.

Thank you for the question and watching the video. One length clubs have to be built with very close attention to detail or else they won't work correctly. The head weight has to be extremely close, if not identical, the shafts the same frequency. The lie angles will be more upright on the lower lofted clubs; 4I, 5I, etc. to make sure enough trajectory can be attained. If you have a very good club person that can guarantee all these things it may help. If you don't, it has high probability of being a catastrophe.

Thank you for your reply 😊 I will definitely take your advice when looking into the one length in more detail. 👍

Better than needing an extra 1/2” bc you can grip down further. It may throw your timing for a short time, about 12-24 swings as the hands and club hit finish position at the top sooner and may require a reboot of your timing but your ball striking will likely improve. Keep us posted to how it works.

Imagine how much better it will feel. Your new 5 iron will feel exactly like your old 7 iron. Taking an inch off is literally like putting your 5 iron onto your 7 iron shaft. Your 6 into your 8. Your 7 onto your 9. Your control should increase significantly

That’s correct.

Lie angle will depend on the golfers set up and clubhead design. If a golfer changes teachers and the set up is changed the lie angle coulld need modification.

Not yet. Lie angle cannot be fit correctly until the shaft flex is dialed in. Working on how to illustrate that given all the different variables, and still makes sense to the masses.

@@Thegolfparadigm so dial in shaft length then use a lie board to adjust?

@@Thegolfparadigm ok i figured it out

@@Thegolfparadigm Pete. Why is there no consensus on golf shaft length? It seems everyone has their own chart and none of them match...

@@iananddani everyone seems to have their own theory and makes it very difficult for most of the golfing public.

@Craig Scott For Irons and (in my opinion Hybrids too) you can use the following to work out the recommended #6i length and build your clubs in 1/2" increments down to the #9i. From #9i to PW, AW/GW and SW you can either choose 1/4" increments or make them the same length which is what I do. Here is the chart for Irons/Hybrids --- The measurement is based on a 28" knuckle measurement on the ruler equating to a 37" #6i For every 1" above 28" (measured on the ruler) you will add +1/4" to the length of a 37" #6i For every 1" below 28" (measured on the ruler) you will subtract -1/4" from the length of a 37" #6i (a) Measurement on Ruler (b) +/- #6i (@37") (c) Adjusted #6i Length (a) (b) (c) 36" +2" 39" 35" +1.75" 38.75" 34" +1.5" 38.5" 33" +1.25" 38.25" 32" +1" 38" 31" +0.75" 37.75" 30" +0.5" 37.5" 29" +0.25" 37.25" 28" 0" 37" 27" -0.25" 36.75" 26" -0.5" 36.5" 25" -0.75" 36.25" 24" -1" 36" 23" -1.25" 35.75" 22" -1.5" 35.5" 21" -1.75" 35.25" 20" -2" 35" --- For Driver and Fairway Woods there is a slightly different approach. I know @The Golf Paradigm as well as myself and others do not recommend the 45.5"-46" Driver lengths offered by the major brands. Unlike the chart above there is no optimal length with the driver the same as there is with the irons. I nearly always end up fitting most clients into driver lengths between 44.25"-44.75”. They are most consistent and still just as long (and not in the water, trees, Out of Bounds) at these lengths. I then fit 2" less than the driver length for the #3w and 1" increments down through #5w and #7w. --- I hope that helps. --- D E

Agreed and why we always recommend a hitting session to ensure the length is dialed in per each golfer.

@@Thegolfparadigm So let me ask you.. Once I find out what the cut off length or “drop length” (let’s call it) on my 6 iron, since the rest of my clubs are all 1/2” in difference +or- iron number, then shouldn’t the drop length be the same amount for every other iron in the set? Exp. My floor to knuckle length is 29.5”… To 37”, my over all was 37” & 3/8. My club measured 37”& 1/2, so i cut off an 1/8 of an inch. Shouldn’t I be able to just cut off an 1/8 of an inch for the rest of my irons that are in the set? Also, (for reference) i’m rockin’ ping eye 2’s. Thanks in advance

@@BenDover-xw6kb assuming they were all cut to the correct length that would be correct. However, it wouldn't be worth taking off all the grips and cutting 1/8" off all the irons. Just grip down that much and you will be fine. Or if you have trouble remembering to do so, simply put a piece of athletic tape on the grip at that length.

@@Thegolfparadigm thanks man. Figured id go ahead and cut them down since i was already re-gripping.

Many reasons: the head weights differ, the club dynamics differ due to CG placement, heel to toe length, etc. So does the lie angles. If all the irons are the same length the player will struggle with low irons in particular the wedges. Even at the highest levels. If you did have all the same lengths the heads better be hand selected and within a few grams of one another and the shafts the same frequency. Otherwise it will make a bad situation even worse.

Good to hear.

All good questions. Without knowing the body measurements of someone it would be fruitless to estimate what their club-lengths should be. Pros do not lengthen their irons because they are more concerned with accuracy than they are improving distance. They hit the ball long enough that they often do not need more distance with their irons. If someone hit an 8I 214 yds I would check a number of things; was it downwind, how firm were the greens and were they playing it short to bounce and roll to the target, was it downhill, etc. Also, what was the loft of the '8I'? Just because its stamped with an '8' does not mean its the same as yours.

Sam Smith we appreciate you taking the time to watch the video. If the knuckle to floor measurement is 28” than the 6I would be 37” in length. That’s the baseline for information purposes. For every inch the knuckle varies from 28” the length of the club would change by 1/4”. So, if the knuckle to floor measurement was 29” the 6I would be 37 1/4”. If it was 27” the 6I would be 36 3/4”. Hope this helps clarify things.

@@Thegolfparadigm .....Holy shit this is awesome!! I just measured my 6I and it was about 1/4 inch too long but that's ok because when I grip it I'll grip down a 1/4 inch. Now my question is how long should my driver/3 wood be? Great video guys

@@pd9971 Depends on what type of driver and 3w you have and what you want to do with them. Generally speaking, we recommend most amateurs should keep their driver in the 44 1/2 - 44 3/4" range and 3w (assuming its 15* of loft) at 43"

Absolutely it can and will cause the ‘S’ word. Everyone has a rate at which they unwind in the swing and that timing is set internally. Making the same rate of unwind with a shorter club will cause you to top the ball, because the clubs not long enough (every groove is 1/8” so 4 grooves is 1/2”) Shorter will also cause you to come up and out of the shot as you try to adjust to the new length. We recommend either adding the length to your new clubs, to the same as your older clubs.

@@Thegolfparadigm Thank you for your help on this. I was thinking this could be the only reason.

correct me if I am right or wrong I am 30" so my #6i should be 37.50 right

Yes, that is correct. 👍

@nickpritchard7130 0 seconds ago It is easy if you write it down..This guy should of added that when you have your knuckle measurement, you work from the benchmark of 28 inches..IE, ..Above 28 inches you add 1/4 inch per Inch measured...So My Knuckle measurement was 30 inches from the ground...30 inches is 2 inches above 28 inches(the bench mark) so 2 x 1/4 inches =1/2 inch....We then ad 1/2 inch to the 6 iron benchmark of 37 inch to give 37 1/2 inches,....so 37 1/2 inches should be the Fitted length of my 6 iron.......If your knuckle to floor mesurement is under 28 inches then you Deduct 1/4 inch per inch of the measurement.. What ever you end up with, this is deducted from the benchmark 37 inch 6 iron length........It does not work for everyone as Ian Woosnam (Height5 Foot 4 inches) played with 1 Inch longer than standard clubs, which he had the strength to play with.........If he used this measuring method he would of had very short clubs indeed...lol ! Reply Your answer is that your 6 iron should be 38 1/2 inches... and 38 inches for your 7 iron......Easy after you do the exercise a couple of times....Wasn't that Fun, LOL !!!

Thank you for the inquiry and watching the video. With a 28" knuckle to floor of the lead hand your 6I should be 37". Each club after that would be 1/2" difference shorter or longer depending on which direction you went. For example, your 7I would be 36 1/2", 8I 36" and so on. your 5I would be 37 1/2" and your 4I 38". We always advise a test hitting session if you're able to make sure that the recommended length is best. A final check if you will.

The Golf Paradigm thats what i was thinking, thank you very much and great content, your other videos have helped alot with game! Thank you and take care!

Glad your enjoying them and that they’re helping your game. Keep up the good work.

At 24.5” you would be 36”-36.25”. Recommend a test hitting session, or a few to really dial it in. Also recommend wearing the same golf shoes when you play. This doesn’t only help with the length but also the reaction with the ground and where pressure gets shifted.

I've aced every math course in college, including calculus. Sorry guy, his explanation was horrible. Pretty comparable to a very low rated Math Professor. If he just added the explanation that a normal 6 iron length is 37" at a 28" knuckle length, and then went into the +/- 1/4" adjustments from there, with every +/- 1" knuckle length from 28 inches, then it would make so much more sense, but he didn't add that part in. The viewer is therefore left confused due to that. Eventually the viewer will get what he meant, but a horrible explanation it was!

It is easy if you write it down..This guy should of added that when you have your knuckle measurement, you work from the benchmark of 28 inches..IE, ..Above 28 inches you add 1/4 inch per Inch measured...So My Knuckle measurement was 30 inches from the ground...30 inches is 2 inches above 28 inches(the bench mark) so 2 x 1/4 inches =1/2 inch....We then ad 1/2 inch to the 6 iron benchmark of 37 inch to give 37 1/2 inches,....so 37 1/2 inches should be the Fitted length of my 6 iron.......If your knuckle to floor mesurement is under 28 inches then you Deduct 1/4 inch per inch of the measurement.. What ever you end up with, this is deducted from the benchmark 37 inch 6 iron length........It does not work for everyone as Ian Woosnam (Height5 Foot 4 inches) played with 1 Inch longer than standard clubs, which he had the strength to play with.........If he used this measuring method he would of had very short clubs indeed...lol !

Use a 48” long ruler. You can get one at Home Depot or Lowe’s. Put the town of the club up against something sturdy like a baseboard and make sure the grooves are parallel to the ground. Place the ruler on the underside of the club and measure. Keeping the scoring lines parallel to the ground is a square face void of rocking due to sole camber. We don’t recommend using the common peg board because different sole cambers will give differing lengths.

Before cutting I’d grip down .5” and see how that works. Then go down another .25” and see which you like better. It maybe based in science but nothing trumps real world testing. Especially once you get that close.

@@Thegolfparadigm Will try to grip down and se the results of it. Thanks for the anser

Stand erect and look straight ahead, then let your arms hang down as natural as possible. From there take the measurement. The arms should be, as you said, 'hanging there loose'.

@@Thegolfparadigm great thanks. One more question. I've seen where fitters will try and shy people away from measurements like this or wrist to floor. In your experience, is this pretty spot on or do you run into situations where someone will be different?

It's very spot on but in all our fittings we do a test hitting session once we do the static measurement. There are other variables involved and hitting balls with clubs within 1/4"-1/2" of the static measurement recommendation is an important part and its recommended you do the same. Fitters sometimes denounce static measurements but that's usually because they don't understand the measurement or used one without any science behind it. They usually get different specs from the fitting theory they were taught and have to cast one aside and that's usually the static measurement.

Covenant Official, thank you for taking the time to present your question. We trust our answer will help you improve. When a club is too long there are a myriad of problems and laid off is not exempt from that list. The additional length can and will add weight to the club and for those that may not have the hand, wrist, and forearm strength, laying it off can become a problem. Shorter clubs will steepen the plane due to the lever being shorter. If you go too short, you run the risk of your sequencing and timing being thrown off. Shorter clubs will have a tendency to hit their finish position in the backswing prior to the other parts of the body reaching theirs. Not all parts hit finish position simultaneous but the timing of each of these parts and their working in a consistent sequential order is based in large part on the feedback the club is giving the golfer. This can and will cause a slew of issues during the swing, especially at impact. Hope this answers your questions.

The Golf Paradigm thanks! People i play with often tell me my lower body fires too soon before my upper body finishes.

The Golf Paradigm so my 6 iron is standard at 37.5 inches. Has the standard got longer?

By spec are you referring to manufacturers making their ‘standard’ 6I - 37.5”? If so, put that aside for now and do the measurement of the knuckle to floor/ground to determine what your 6I should be.

@@Thegolfparadigm yes the manufacturer specs of my 6i is 37.5 and my nuckle to ground is 29.5 . The fitter actually fit me to 0.5 inches more than specs so my 6 irons is 38? This seems wrong isn’t it? Should it be 37 instead of 38?

38” is too long and will disrupt your sequencing in the swing as well as lead to a number of other things; heavy shots, blocks to the weak side, etc. at 29.5 K to F your 6I would be 37.5”. I’d start by gripping down on the 38” 6I by 1/2” and hitting some balls and see if the timing doesn’t fall back into place. Regardless of fitting system the ultimate and final test is to hit the club and compare. Especially when dialing it in by 1/4”-1/2” increments. Hope this helps.

Actually I used my friend irons yesterday and they are standards (6i at 37.5 ) and I was hitting much better! That’s why I searched on the web and found your video and you also confirmed that the extra 1/2 inches is too much! I’m going to grip down on my current irons. Thanks!

Thank you for your question. The measurements discussed in the video are not affected by how far down the shaft someone holds the club unless the club was too long, to begin with. The body has multiple parts that rotate; the hips and the shoulders, and this rotation has to coordinate with the movement of the arms. Each of these moves different distances and at different rates of speed yet they are all coordinated to each other. If you were to make a swing without a club they would be coordinated perfectly because you haven't yet introduced the fourth variable, which is the club. If the club is the correct length, the movement of the all these parts will stay coordinated. If it is too long/short, it will be disrupted to differing degrees. If a club is too short, the toe of the club, trailing forefinger/thumb connection will arrive at their finish position in the backswing well in advance of the other parts of the body. As the brain senses the backswing is completed it will send the message to start the transition and downswing, and the timing and sequencing of the swing are disrupted. If the club is too long, the shoulders and hips have reached their completed rotation but the hands and clubhead have not making the body's rotation 'wait' for the others and throwing off the timing and sequencing. When the club is the correct length it enhances and positively reinforces the body's natural timing and sequencing. If the club is shortened from that point, often in an effort to hit a shorter shot, the coordination is adjusted for without requiring conscious thought; i.e. the movement of the hips, shoulders, arms, and club are all reduced yet maintain their ratios to the other and the swing remains coordinated. To test this to the extreme, grip down on your club to the end of the grip and attempt to make full swings. I'm fairly certain your arms and club will move faster, because of the shorter length, but they will also be outpacing the rest of your body. There are differences at impact as well, when the club is too long/short, but that's a topic for another time. Hopefully this answered your question.

No need to change the length due to graphite. The coordination and timing of the body to club relationship doesn’t change because of shaft material. Your timing is what it is. If you increase the length you run a high risk of disrupting that. Add in another variable of added speed due to lighter weight and your mishits increase. You begin to lose control in direction, length and trajectory. Not sure we understand the first part of your question due to mentioning 28” twice. Could you clarify?

The Golf Paradigm Sorry...I meant 28 inches being a 2 inch difference from 30 inches.

​@@Thegolfparadigm hi my knuckle is 30 inches from floor what length should my 6 iron be and is it half inch either way up or down regarding 5. 4 and 7 .8.9

Yes that’s correct. Industry started going longer in length and it coincided with ‘more distance’ ads which isn’t necessarily true. Especially when using graphite shafts in irons. Really nothing behind their claims to support the message.

36.5 ish according to this guy

@@abehaile2659 Thanx)

Use your brain. He explained it all and the chart is the top comment. Stop being a lazy entitled bum

Not sure what you're asking? If the 6I is the correct length than the other irons would vary in length by 1/2" from club to club.

Thank you for taking the time to give input. We don't sell clubs and don't expect anyone to drop a grand on clubs if they're not sure they don't want to play the game. We always advise to purchase a wedge, 7I and 3W to get started and if they gravitate towards the game then build the set from there. Please remember there are many levels of golfers that watch videos and many of ours attempt to relay complicated information so everyone can benefit. Some are advanced players, others beginners and everyone in between. The gentleman that inquired what his length should be was given the proper length and that is always asterisked with advising they have a hitting session to make sure 1/4" either direction from that wouldn't be a better option because there is science, applied science and then the real world. Hopefully that clarifies somethings.

Not a problem. If the middle knuckle of the middle finger on your lead hand; left hand for right handed golfers, measures 30” to the ground while standing erect with your arms hanging at your sides, your 6I length would be 37 1/2”. Hope this helps clarify.

I'm glad you asked the question because I'm a 30 like you now I dont gotta wait for an answer.

@@Thegolfparadigm Lie angles vs shaft length?

It has to do with the body and club relationship as they move through the swing. To simplify if your knuckle to floor measurement is 28” your 6I (or whatever club has 32 degrees +/- of loft) will be 37” long. For every inch above/below 28” the club length will adjust by 1/4”.

No. We’re saying the baseline measurement for K to Flr that’s 28” is a 6I that is 37”.

1/2” between each until you get to the wedges then it can go to 1/4” from W to SW. The SW, GE, and LB can be the same length if you like.

Once you know how long your 6 iron should be, then you use that same difference with every club. If you need to shorten your 6 by .75 inches then you shorten every club by .75 inches. If you need to add a half inch to your 6, then you need to add a half inch to your whole bag. Whatever difference you make to your 6 should be made to all of your clubs. If your 6 is 1 inch too long then all of your clubs are one inch too long.

Plus a quarter inch, for each of those 4 inches if 28 inches--then it's 37 inches--if the camera is on a tripod, so 38 inches from the camera is the perfect distance. Final answer

Working on updating this video so it’s much easier to understand and implement. To help stand upright and let your arms hang to your sides. Hold your target side hand as if holding a pail handle (bent at the middle knuckle). Have someone use a long ruler or tape measurer and measure from the middle knuckle of your middle finger to the ground. If it’s 28” your 6I (or whatever club is 30-32 degrees of loft) will be 37”. For ever inch your longer/shorter than the 28” knuckle to floor, you will add/subtract 1/4” from the length. If your 29” knuckle to floor your 6I will be 37.25”. Just remember it’s the 30-32 degree club, not always a 6I in today’s strong lofts. Hope this helps.

@@Thegolfparadigm This last piece you put out there is HUGE and where a lot of people are going wrong. For the physics to work, it has to be based on a combo of loft and CG of the iron head. For the vast majority of sets sold right not, 30-32 degrees of loft is a "7 iron"

@@ryanjhubbell 🎯. We’re in the process of updating this video and part of that will be discussing the change of CG and lofts. BTW, that isn’t a new concept and the most known version was the older Hogan Radials that had a lot of mass low and behind the face to help get the ball up.

@Jake McKeown. This chart is based on an older "standard" length when a steel shafted #6-iron was 37" (and a graphite shafted #6i was 37.5"). I've put "standard" in inverted commas as there is little agreement in the industry as to what is/was a "standard" length and the manufacturers change what they determine as "standard" as lengths have crept up over the years. This chart -- www.derwi.tk/400/wedge-shaft-length-chart.html -- shows the length this conversion was originally taken from. To answer your question: If your Knuckle-to-Floor is 27" that would put your #6-iron at 36.75" quite rightly as you said. Now if that is 0.25" below "standard" or 0.75" below "standard" depends on what the manufacturer of the golf club in question deems to be their "standard" and also if the shaft is steel or graphite. Please also note that this chart is based on a 37" #6i length being optimal for the bio-mechanics of someone with a 28" Knuckle-to-Floor measurement and not a conversion chart of length from what the club manufacturers deem "standard".

@@ROGERSWKS okay. Thank you for answering my question.

Nice response. Couldn’t have stated it better ourselves. 🤜🤛

No. It will be 36 3/4.

@@Thegolfparadigm this is why I did Labor at shipping all my life, I cant figure this out, my middle knuckle is at 30, so how long is my 6 iron supposed to be.

matty t 37.5”

I’m sorry I don’t I Understand it either what about 27 1/4?

Jack Miller there are those that measure in between full inch measurements; such as 27 1/4. At this measurement you will be 36 1/2-37. This is where you would need to hit balls with clubs of each length to determine which is best.

No, It would effect lie more than length. Length deals with the rotational ratios of the swing - hip, shoulder, hands and club head being in sync. Anything shorter or longer than where it needs to be will cause issue with that.

Thank you for taking the time to watch the video. Let us know what part you don't understand and we'll clarify.

Hi Sam..The vid is confusing, but the explanation posted, along with the measurements makes it easy to understand.D E got there in the end.

Maybe this will simplify it; if your knuckle to floor is 28” the 6I length will be 37”. For every inch the knuckle length changes the club length changes by 1/4”.

Certainly an option so long as you don’t revert back to defaulting (gripping towards the end of the grip) while playing.

Height has little to do with fitting compared to body ratios such as leg, arm and torso lengths.

It’s the system we’ve used and has been proven to have amazing results for almost 40 years. Someone could use a 5I but wold have to make the adjustment for ratios.

You would have a 6I length of 38” if your knuckle to floor measured 32”. The baseline is if the knuckle to floor is 28” the 6I is 37”. For every inch the knuckle to floor changes the length of the club changes by 1/4”.

@@Thegolfparadigm thank you. Very much

@@Thegolfparadigm Perfect! Thats the ratio I was looking for...I'm afraid I found it really confusing in the video.

@@oiiihbeta apologies. It was one of our early videos and hopefully we've improved since.

Thank you for watching and taking the time to offer your opinion. However, your idea in having the perfect swing in order to have the proper length is incorrect. Can a golfer play decently with a club too short or too long, to some extent but there are two negative effects to their game and body. One, they will never be able to play to their potential because their swing will be in a constant state of compensation and you can never learn to compensate consistently. Two, compensate enough and your body will begin to break down; muscles, soft tissue or bones and injury is almost an absolute. Club fitting doesn’t have as much to do with stance as it does rotational ratios of the body. Your height has little to do with the length of your clubs and the ‘standard’ clubs you learned to play with may have been the right length. Extending them may have thrown you off. There are many out there that identify as fitters but they are far from it. The point of this video is to give golfers like yourself a very close approximate (within 1/2-1/4 inch) of where the length should be so you don’t change clubs that may be correct. To dismiss proper club fitting as unnecessary or a myth is an ill educated statement at best.

Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment but swing style doesn’t have anything to do with club length. What ‘standard’ are your clubs 1 inch longer than? There isn’t a standard length anymore and each manufacturer goes off their own. If you’re hitting your current clubs well then by all means stay with them. There will be outliers, as with anything, and you may fall into that category.

Hence why old timers shoot fucking low 90s mid 80s by just hitting the ball straight and good short game quit spending tons of money on shit that is not gonna make you a better athlete this is why golf will never be truly recognized as a sport more of a intelligent game and athletic version of chess

Pretty much based on two Scottish guys didn’t wanna deal with their wives grab the fucking fifth of whiskey hence 18 holes that’s how many shots there are and the fifth and if I got away from their wives for a day and they caught on and I’ll corporate it’s got their hand on it and they’re going to try to make money hand over fist and telling people they can be better athletes than they truly are by buying this product and taking lessons and listening to other people that never made the tour because they shoot nine strokes better on a card I love golf

If you’ve never been on tour you suck at golf but will spend tons of money on trying to make you that much better at sucking at golf wake up people! Golf is the excuse for non-athletic people to feel like they’re good at some type of sport but never seen an Olympian chug a beer and smoke a cigar before he won the gold medal besides John Daly

Would you wear a pair of shoes that were too small/large then go run a marathon?

Thank you for watching the video and your question. Wear your golf shoes when taking the measurement so it is the same as when you're swinging; unless you play barefoot :)

Measure the middle knuckle of the middle finger of your lead hand to get your knuckle to floor distance. If it’s 28” from the floor your 6I length will be 37”. For every inch your knuckle measurement is longer/shorter from 28” you will adjust the length (from 37”) by 1/4”. For example, if you measure to 29” your 6I would be 37 1/4”. Hope this helps.

Why would you think that?

@@Thegolfparadigm Because he did not take into account the lie angle.

Lie angle doesn’t impact the timing pattern of the swing the way length does. It also won’t make up for an incorrect length.

@@Thegolfparadigm What is an 'incorrect length?'

@@tomnelson8515a length that doesn’t allow the golfers body to move in a way it was designed and disrupts the timing/sequencing during the swing. This would lead to poor strikes and the inability to hit the ball desired or at a minimum give the highest probability they can achieve that.

@@Thegolfparadigm So I have 14. clubs of different lengths. Which length is correct, and which lie angles are not optimal?

@@tomnelson8515watch the video, measure your clubs, measure your lead hand middle knuckle of the middle finger to the floor and you’ll know. Best of luck with it.

Hi @Eugene McMurray. I have posted this previously but I hope this explanation helps. --- The measurement is based on a 28" knuckle measurement on the ruler equating to a 37" #6i For every 1" above 28" (measured on the ruler) you will add +1/4" to the length of a 37" #6i For every 1" below 28" (measured on the ruler) you will subtract -1/4" from the length of a 37" #6i (a) Measurement on Ruler (b) +/- #6i (@37") (c) Adjusted #6i Length (a) (b) (c) 36" +2" 39" 35" +1.75" 38.75" 34" +1.5" 38.5" 33" +1.25" 38.25" 32" +1" 38" 31" +0.75" 37.75" 30" +0.5" 37.5" 29" +0.25" 37.25" 28" 0" 37" 27" -0.25" 36.75" 26" -0.5" 36.5" 25" -0.75" 36.25" 24" -1" 36" 23" -1.25" 35.75" 22" -1.5" 35.5" 21" -1.75" 35.25" 20" -2" 35" --- Also, please note this is NOT a conversion from manufacturers "standard" lengths. This chart is based on a 37" #6i length being optimal for the bio-mechanics of someone with a 28" Knuckle-to-Floor measurement and represents the 0.25" club length change for optimal bio-mechanics between each 1.00" change of Knuckle-to-Floor measurement. I hope that helps.

Read through our prior comments on this post and you will see another explanation that you may find easier to understand.

@Ryan Peter I created this chart which I hope may explain things. --- The measurement is based on a 28" knuckle measurement on the ruler equating to a 37" #6i For every 1" above 28" (measured on the ruler) you will add +1/4" to the length of a 37" #6i For every 1" below 28" (measured on the ruler) you will subtract -1/4" from the length of a 37" #6i (a) Measurement on Ruler (b) +/- #6i (@37") (c) Adjusted #6i Length (a) (b) (c) 36" +2" 39" 35" +1.75" 38.75" 34" +1.5" 38.5" 33" +1.25" 38.25" 32" +1" 38" 31" +0.75" 37.75" 30" +0.5" 37.5" 29" +0.25" 37.25" 28" 0" 37" 27" -0.25" 36.75" 26" -0.5" 36.5" 25" -0.75" 36.25" 24" -1" 36" 23" -1.25" 35.75" 22" -1.5" 35.5" 21" -1.75" 35.25" 20" -2" 35" --- Let me know if you have any other questions. --- D E

@@ROGERSWKS ahhh ok now I get it 😂

Agreed. This was one of our early videos and working on doing an updated version that’s much better and easier to understand. Thanks for checking it out and keep an eye out for the 2.0 version