Mini, Fast & Open-Source Core XY - The VORON 0

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CNC Kitchen

CNC Kitchen

Күн бұрын

The VORON ZERO is a small, but capable CoreXY 3D printer! This will be the machine with which I want to attempt to print a 10 minutes 3DBenchy! Let me tell you more about this awesome machine, how I built it and where I really screwed up and probably need to re-build it. Let’s find out more!
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:25 What is VORON?
03:47 Part sourcing
04:56 Parts printing
06:45 Formbot Kit
07:54 Building the VORON
12:43 Firmware / Klipper
13:58 Printing
17:53 Verdict
#3Dprinting #voron #BananaForScale

Пікірлер: 905
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 3 жыл бұрын
Banana Scale FTW!
@tatatazemefoo
@tatatazemefoo 3 жыл бұрын
Is this the fabled banana you were going to cast in silicon?
@blanksymortimer4088
@blanksymortimer4088 3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe you 3d printed a banana
@masterbick2
@masterbick2 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the hevORT. that one is a solid competitor for the voron, and I'd argue it's even faster. Search it on KZfaq, the guy who is developing it has a channel dedicated to it.
@dikodikodiko
@dikodikodiko 3 жыл бұрын
What happened with the pellet extruder?
@ChannelRejss
@ChannelRejss 3 жыл бұрын
I always remember this SNL sketch. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNaIbNmb08CReWg.html They might as well use your tiny printer for the shoot :D
@voron_design
@voron_design 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for kind words. Great build! Glad you enjoyed it and can’t wait to see what you have planned for this thing.
@m.kanawati4385
@m.kanawati4385 3 жыл бұрын
Well Designed Machine... Great Job guys!
@bbowling4979
@bbowling4979 3 жыл бұрын
Now I'm going to have to check out the Voron designs. I have a bunch on AL extrusion just looking for a design.
@yvesinformel221
@yvesinformel221 3 жыл бұрын
@@bbowling4979 this is the baby Voron, you can also check the V1 and the V2
@Elskandaria
@Elskandaria 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if this is such a good decision to use an Ali kit from the beginning, then still build in old nylon to shoot a review. Hope the 200 orders on Ali-Express don't cause problems and give Voron a bad reputation. Now that it's getting "comerz
@ALex-qc4lf
@ALex-qc4lf 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the efforts on designing this. It looks gorgeous and I can't wait to start building one (though I need to get my girl on board :joy:)
@MD-NWWI
@MD-NWWI 3 жыл бұрын
Great shout out to Nero3dp. He's a very helpful guy and is very knowledgeable with Klipper and all. The vorons. He has helped me out with at least 3 of my builds.
@remthompson
@remthompson 3 жыл бұрын
He's been getting a lot of love from the bigger guys lately and I love to see it
@Joe_Yacketori
@Joe_Yacketori 3 жыл бұрын
Nero's content is a goldmine for anyone into 3D printing. His videos and streams have really made me realize just how high the untapped speed and quality potential in FDM 3D printing is - even by just installing Klipper onto bed slinger, you've made a huge stride in speed and quality. I almost think the Prusa being viewed as the quintessential prosumer printer has caused people to become complacent. So many people have them, and I really think this has caused its level of quality to become a sort of gold standard - a far too low gold standard.
@MD-NWWI
@MD-NWWI 3 жыл бұрын
@@Joe_Yacketori you have that right. I have mostly been self taught the last 5 years. But then I heard about the Vorons!
@Whipster-Old
@Whipster-Old 3 жыл бұрын
@@MD-NWWI same here. Saw the Voron machines on his channel first, and I'm itching to build one.
@fredfinsterer
@fredfinsterer 3 жыл бұрын
i almost didnt watch because i thought this is just another printer review. glad i did!
@CanuckCreator
@CanuckCreator 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and thanks for the shoutout! Glad the machine is working well for ya, sorry to hear about the creep issues, currently planning a V1.8 build for dedicated higher temp plastics, was leaning toward CF nylon as well but will have to do some more testing it looks like :P Just wait till you get some fresh parts and a full tune it on, its going to really fly.
@marklandsaat3696
@marklandsaat3696 3 жыл бұрын
Use CF-ABS instead? Or will you get too close to glass transition temp with that build?
@takingleung2336
@takingleung2336 3 жыл бұрын
暂停 a V1.8 build for dedicated higher temp plastics!suspend?
@CanuckCreator
@CanuckCreator 3 жыл бұрын
@@takingleung2336 Machine will be for plastics like Nylon/PC and other materials that print better with higher ambient temps.
@markuslimseth8426
@markuslimseth8426 3 жыл бұрын
@@CanuckCreator What about CarbonX™ PA6+CF (Gen3), can be printed with a all metal extruder at 240 - 270 degress and have Deflection Temperature of 147 degress.
@VascoRocha
@VascoRocha 3 жыл бұрын
Toasty boy! Love your stuff Nero3dp 🙏👏👏👏
@user-nf1qo1ot5t
@user-nf1qo1ot5t 3 жыл бұрын
It’s nice for popular influencers like you to give a shot out on the Voron project, this community is just getting more and more momentum, can’t wait to settle in my new place and start building myself one!
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 3 жыл бұрын
Well deserved!
@eddietheengineer
@eddietheengineer 3 жыл бұрын
Great review as always Stephan. It's good to hear comments/suggestions from first time builders to let us know what areas we can improve! Looking forward to your creep tests :)
@Mister_Stork
@Mister_Stork 3 жыл бұрын
“Some call the Voron over engineered, I call it well engineered...” Of course you do, you’re *German!* 😂
@Runoratsu
@Runoratsu 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, what’s _that_ supposed to mean?! 😤 … 😉
@skysi
@skysi 3 жыл бұрын
There is no over engineered in the German language
@Runoratsu
@Runoratsu 3 жыл бұрын
@@skysi That’s… actually true 😅 We use the English term too. Well, if we absolutely have to, that is. 😁
@claudekim7876
@claudekim7876 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly you havent driven a german car. So unreliable
@blahanger4304
@blahanger4304 3 жыл бұрын
According to murhpy's law there's no such thing as overenginering.
@LanceThumping
@LanceThumping 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to finally see one of the big 3D printing channels talk about the Voron. It's crazy that it's not more well known.
@CodeMonkeX
@CodeMonkeX 3 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling it's going to get a lot more press. After finding out about it a few months ago I have seen it mentioned a lot. Not sure if I just notice the mentions because now I know what the name is, but it does feel like people are talking about it a lot. I think the main issue that it really is not a project suitable for most people. It takes a lot of research for parts and assembly, tuning, and it's relatively expensive. But I am certainly planning to build one eventually. 2.4 is a dream machine for me, but might be too much printer for my needs. This looks too small, but is also really tempting for the size and cost reduction and still getting a fun project.
@tokagehideto
@tokagehideto 3 жыл бұрын
The simple reason is that most company send free printers and even pay youtube content creators to review their printers. Since this is non commercial open source project if a youtube channel review it, it means they have to pay for everything. And that's why I love this channel!
@luciusdante4254
@luciusdante4254 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the voron community is very rude regarding their machines so I think that's the real reason
@mikes78
@mikes78 2 жыл бұрын
I only found out about it yesterday. I do not need one as I've already got two printers that cover my needs adequately. But it still doesn't stop me kind of *wanting* one.
@UndefinedEssence
@UndefinedEssence 3 жыл бұрын
It's really cool to see a Voron featured on one of the more well known 3D channels (though I think Nero will be there one day); they really are great machines and fun to build. ABS all the way. I had never used ABS before preparing a Voron build, and just assumed I could use something like PETG. Once I finally made the switch to ABS, it was much smoother sailing.
@jfiorini
@jfiorini 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been longing for a 2.4 for awhile now, but you have convinced me to look at the other models and go a bit smaller. Thanks for posting, can’t wait to see updates on your experiences with it!
@CarlosGlatzos976
@CarlosGlatzos976 3 жыл бұрын
I´m so impressed by the Voron printers. Unbelievable they are open source and engineered so well. Good job building one. I would totally flip out having to re-assemble it because of material failure. Thumbs up for your effort and endurance. Nice build. Cheers!
@GunSmoker
@GunSmoker 3 жыл бұрын
BTW, "Voron" means "raven" in Russian and may be some other languages.
@Runoratsu
@Runoratsu 3 жыл бұрын
Nevermore!
@ivandrago4247
@ivandrago4247 3 жыл бұрын
Йеккк...
@MirageC
@MirageC 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I am so glad that awareness towards performant DIY open source printers is raising more and more. Voron, Annex Engineering and my personnal project the HevORT are all very capable printers that are laying the path for what I believe to be the future of hobbyist FDM printing. Thank you for this review! keep up the good work, your videos are bringing so much value to this hpbby :)
@linuxinstalled
@linuxinstalled 3 жыл бұрын
It's the Hevort guy! I hope you are well.
@MirageC
@MirageC 3 жыл бұрын
@@linuxinstalled I am well thank you! Hope you are well too ;)
@kerbodynamicx472
@kerbodynamicx472 2 жыл бұрын
All these DIY, state-of-the-art FDM printers are made by hobbyists instead of corporations, it’s utterly ridiculous and I like it! I guess this is what you get from a community made of tinkerers and engineers lol
@rayknn
@rayknn 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a big youtuber bringing light to the awesome Voron printers. The voron 2.4 is even better.
@muffty1337
@muffty1337 3 жыл бұрын
The realtime footage looks like a time lapse. I love it!
@soundmindtv2911
@soundmindtv2911 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like an awesome little machine! And you’re right... that 300x300x300 work envelope is handy when you need it... but 90%+ of parts are under the 100 cube size. Now I want a small machine, too ☺️
@Akegata42
@Akegata42 3 жыл бұрын
I also have the part cooling fan on, but on low speed, when printing ABS on my Hypercube. It results in much much better prints than no cooling. I've printed hundreds of functional parts that way for several years. Not sure why so many people are claiming ABS should never be cooled.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 3 жыл бұрын
I have an open frame printer and I had to use a little part cooling fan for ABS. Otherwise the next little gust of air movement warps and cracks the print. Higher temperature of the print improves bonding, but consistent temperature is more important.
@BRUXXUS
@BRUXXUS 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely incredible! It doesn't even look real while printing that fast! Also... I'm SUPER excited for the creep testing. It's an issue I've been dealing with in my functional prints for a while.
@allcrafter3747
@allcrafter3747 3 жыл бұрын
I was so excited to see this! I heard so many good things about Vorn
@lukedavid8099
@lukedavid8099 3 жыл бұрын
Hype train. Looking forward to this vid for some time!
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it!
@lukedavid8099
@lukedavid8099 3 жыл бұрын
@@CNCKitchen loved It! Been thinking about building a voron 2.4 for some time now and this definitely helped me with material choices to think about
@aronjanssen5702
@aronjanssen5702 3 жыл бұрын
Nero is a great guy, i really hope he gets a lot f subs from your shoutout. He was the guy who got me to the point to flash klipper on my duet2 wifi
@mark879
@mark879 3 жыл бұрын
You've given me a whole new world to explore. Thanks!
@PeterTsiampas
@PeterTsiampas 3 жыл бұрын
I just started to build a Voron 2.4, and got the parts from the same seller on aliexpress. There is something therapeutic about building this machine. The zero is so cute and functional, glad you show cased it.
@yvesinformel221
@yvesinformel221 3 жыл бұрын
I have been told that the print parts from Ali where of bad quality, you should have use the PIF program instead.
@170makes
@170makes 3 жыл бұрын
This genuinely blew my mind. I'm totally building one
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 3 жыл бұрын
You won't regret it!
@notsonominal
@notsonominal 3 жыл бұрын
you and the rest of the internet :D
@marsgizmo
@marsgizmo 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the insights Stefan, very useful! And 🤔 very interesting with sagging of the parts over time. I’m also testing now some other similar filaments because I need something stable in time. I’m close to consider CF PEEK 😅 (but I’m missing a Funmat HT Printer for it). As a cheaper option I would think of the High Temp Resins, on SLA, but also don’t know how they perform over time.
@PepsiMagt
@PepsiMagt 3 жыл бұрын
The spec calls for ABS and nothing else. It was designed to use ABS parts, and it works with ABS parts.
@NBFL
@NBFL 3 жыл бұрын
@@PepsiMagt I don't understand how that's so hard of a concept to grasp for some people
@It_got_darK
@It_got_darK 3 жыл бұрын
@@PepsiMagt I don't see how that's an argument, ABS is cheap and retains it's mechanical properties at fairly high temperatures, that's likely why it was chosen. However it's softer than many other options and Carbon composites have much better dampening properties as well as being stiffer, and in the case of nylon and especially PEEK or ULTEM, more heat resistant as well. The recommended option isn't always the best.
@PepsiMagt
@PepsiMagt 3 жыл бұрын
@@It_got_darK the video clearly showed that carbon reinforced nylon suffered very much from heat creep, deforming under multiple heat cycles. ABS does not do that. It will defor, but it springs back and do not suffer from creep.
@It_got_darK
@It_got_darK 3 жыл бұрын
@@PepsiMagt I stand corrected about nylon, which sort of makes sense in hindsight, that however does not mean that what I said is not correct. Every material suffers from heat creep, what differs is the temperature at which that occurs. In plastics that tends to depend on the glass transition temperature , which is why semi crystalline plastics usually perform better than amorphous plastics etc. (though printing compromises the crystallinity of plastics anyway)
@Nikoxion
@Nikoxion 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this tiny thing looks bonkers! Excited for future updates, including tackling the creep issue.
@shenqiangshou
@shenqiangshou 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah more and more I am super tempted to build a Voron. So thank you for sharing your experience.
@l3d-3dmaker58
@l3d-3dmaker58 3 жыл бұрын
yay for speed!!! I'm so happy rn that printing fast is finally getting popular!!! let's leave 40mm/s in the dust!
@flamixin
@flamixin 3 жыл бұрын
I am always wondering why there isn’t much KZfaqrs talking about Voron.
@nathan1sixteen
@nathan1sixteen 3 жыл бұрын
100% agree. There are very few videos about them, yet, they seem to be very high-end machines at a mid-tier price. I'm guessing it's because they don't offer a kit for it so a lot of the KZfaq channels don't want to have to deal with sourcing a bunch of parts and then spending a week printing parts and then 2-3 days assembling the machine. I guess if youtube is your job, you can't commit half a month to 1 build
@celeron55
@celeron55 3 жыл бұрын
Voron doesn't have the resources to build and give away printers for review.
@JoshTownsend66
@JoshTownsend66 3 жыл бұрын
Because there is no reason for them to send for reviews... They dont sell them
@flamixin
@flamixin 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathan1sixteen Thanks for letting me realize all these videos are just hard cold businesses. I think there are ways to keep their turnover rates high if they are really keen to do it: There is no labor involved by only talking about it. Or it wouldn’t be really hard to borrow one from the community.
@yvesinformel221
@yvesinformel221 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathan1sixteen There are few companies that sell Voron kit, but you have to go over the Voron discord to see the vendors. also if you don't want to print your parts, Voron community has print in forward, where someone that has been approved to print good functional parts can print it for you. and yes you have to build it, so it is not for everyone. But if you build it, you can fix it, because you know everything about the printer.
@JanFlint
@JanFlint 3 жыл бұрын
I've had a look at the voron family for a while and the V0 was really interesting to me. As soon as you mentioned your kit in the Meltzone Podcasts I couldn't resist it anymore - it arrived last friday 👍
@henryswan1374
@henryswan1374 3 жыл бұрын
you have caused me to build a v0, and entered me into this community. i am infinitely excited and thankful
@aman11283
@aman11283 3 жыл бұрын
The recommended material to use is ABS/ASA. There has already been a lot of testing of these printers before they get to release! Why not save yourself the headache and just use the right material?
@jaakkopontinen
@jaakkopontinen 3 жыл бұрын
This very much. And while the fumes are not healthy, it's not gonna kill ya. CNCK seems to worry about fumes just a tad too much.
@FrankBocker
@FrankBocker 3 жыл бұрын
Like every good nerd, he thought he could improve something. It's an assertion that is often wrong, but it's the only way to advance.
@aman11283
@aman11283 3 жыл бұрын
I also have added mods for things I wanted to change/improve...but, I built it stock to begin with. Otherwise you're just guessing.
@jaakkopontinen
@jaakkopontinen 3 жыл бұрын
Conforming to baseline every now and then - especially after a sound failure and still having no better guess - is totally ok and for a optimization nerd a true sign of being an optimization nerd, as it can enable new realizations just by not being grindy in method.
@Blargedy
@Blargedy 3 жыл бұрын
Is ABS recommended over PC or carbon fiber PC?
@LanceThumping
@LanceThumping 3 жыл бұрын
I hope to see you do a Voron 2.4 review/build too!
@aifirm2566
@aifirm2566 3 жыл бұрын
Wow unbelievable!! Great results!
@LeakyFaucett
@LeakyFaucett 3 жыл бұрын
Very well done Stefan
@scruffy3121
@scruffy3121 3 жыл бұрын
Will get my kit delivered on Monday 😁. This video made me excited about it again.
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 3 жыл бұрын
Have fun!
@moth.monster
@moth.monster 3 жыл бұрын
>PETG >the stringing didn't want to go away yep that's PETG alright.
@josiahong5177
@josiahong5177 3 жыл бұрын
The editing in the beginning is perfect!
@Dontevergiveup195
@Dontevergiveup195 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video! 👍Keep up the good work
@nocjef
@nocjef 3 жыл бұрын
I printed one in ABS and one in ASA. So far the ASA is holding up just fine. I wouldn’t deviate too far off the normal path.
@yvesinformel221
@yvesinformel221 3 жыл бұрын
ASA is frequently name "the better ABS
@GillesManzato
@GillesManzato 3 жыл бұрын
ASA is my favorite now , ABS don’t like UV
@yvesinformel221
@yvesinformel221 3 жыл бұрын
@@GillesManzato I have a spool of ASA that I have not use. I'm keeping it to print a drone.
@fntsmn
@fntsmn 3 жыл бұрын
Voron is a really cool project! I'm thinking my self to build one probably a 2.4
@marklandsaat3696
@marklandsaat3696 3 жыл бұрын
I just built one, highly recommend it.
@ronniet906
@ronniet906 3 жыл бұрын
Ace review Stefan, loaded with build, excruder and filiment best practises pointers and tips.
@albertoflecha2388
@albertoflecha2388 3 жыл бұрын
When I discovers Nero’s channel I changed my Creality CR-10 and my Creativity Elf to Klipper and what a difference! A totally different machine, the best upgrade so far!
@LightSpeedIII
@LightSpeedIII 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be careful about using any PC blends where there will be bearings or other oil-bearing parts nearby, since PC becomes extremely brittle after absorbing oils or greases. ASA really is the best material for your use case
@saltysteel3996
@saltysteel3996 3 жыл бұрын
Or CF nylon.
@beyonddeath123
@beyonddeath123 3 жыл бұрын
look in voron users, there are some electronics covers in the mods. Personally I put an IEC inlet on mine and just unplug it before sticking my fingers in the zappy bits.
@matthewweinberger7023
@matthewweinberger7023 3 жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for this one
@kevinj9059
@kevinj9059 3 жыл бұрын
So clean; love it!
@Jobobn1998
@Jobobn1998 3 жыл бұрын
Once you have everything up and running again, I'd really like to see what you can do while printing very slowly at tiny layer heights. I mainly print minis, but a resin printer just isn't safe in my apartment, so having a small, high-detail FDM printer could be nice. (In addition to my current Mk3)
@yvesinformel221
@yvesinformel221 3 жыл бұрын
head over to Voron discord
@franklees10
@franklees10 3 жыл бұрын
All vorons parts should be printed in ABS, they warn against using other materials. There are numerous stories on the voron discord channel of people using different materials and then having to do a complete rebuild, like yourself. Don't make the same mistake twice .
@marwar666
@marwar666 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Just go for ABS. That's what is was designed for and tested on, even accounting for shrinkage of ABS. Why change something that isn't broken?
@s0d4c4n
@s0d4c4n 3 жыл бұрын
At least personally, I try to avoid ABS whenever possible. When I was researching my Voron build it was one of the first things I looked into. However, after a while I concluded that the Voron is really an ABS forward design and there's not much support in the community for alternatives, with variants like ABS+ or ASA being the only exception.
@grahambell5847
@grahambell5847 3 жыл бұрын
Are there any benefits to a fiber-filled ABS in regards to the Voron?
@Blargedy
@Blargedy 3 жыл бұрын
Even when PC is an option?
@ogmaker
@ogmaker 3 жыл бұрын
@@grahambell5847 Vorons as designed are structured correctly for ABS. Using CF or fiber-fill media doesn't seem to provide any advantage to the printer. Using an accelerometer to tune pressure advance yields a printer with little to no resonance artifacts even at high speed.
@avejst
@avejst 3 жыл бұрын
PC to the rescue Love it. Try to aneale it too Thanks for sharing your experience with all of us👍😀
@platinum_mad4380
@platinum_mad4380 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing vid, genuinely considering making this printer, thanks.
@bryantmissions4664
@bryantmissions4664 3 жыл бұрын
For $400, I’d expect the kit to come with all of its parts, and at least an extra or two of the really small pieces. Otherwise, this is a really great video. I’m going to need to look at making one of these for rapid prototyping too.
@MostlyInteresting
@MostlyInteresting 2 жыл бұрын
For 400$ I would expect all the parts to be injection mouldings or milled. Not needing any printing.
@Jabbawock1972
@Jabbawock1972 2 жыл бұрын
@@MostlyInteresting guess thats a answer of someone who maybe owns a cheap china bedslinger for 200 bucks..
@VincentGroenewold
@VincentGroenewold 3 жыл бұрын
I saw Voron in the title, I clicked the like button. So want to build this thing
@mindofisaac
@mindofisaac 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. This is exactly what I need, but I wasn't aware that it already exist open source
@waifubellls
@waifubellls 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a voron video!
@T1g3rch3n
@T1g3rch3n 3 жыл бұрын
I build a Tantillus R back in 2019, basicly it has the 'Ultimaker X-Y-Z' Setup with a 10x10x10cm Build Volume My Min Time for a Benchy is around 12-13min but Maybe I can push it a bit further
@avongil
@avongil 3 жыл бұрын
Stefan, don't mess around. You need a baseline. Print the parts out of ABS or ABS+. Not only is it in the documentation as the only supported materials, but they are known to work. You need a baseline - maybe stiffer material will make things slower.
@khalifdove7955
@khalifdove7955 3 жыл бұрын
Wow love this!
@crazedlasher6309
@crazedlasher6309 3 жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to this!
@AngeEinstein
@AngeEinstein 3 жыл бұрын
I want to build an HevORT. Do you know this design?
@sprkng
@sprkng 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like a very good choice if the goal is to print fast
@eelcohoogendoorn8044
@eelcohoogendoorn8044 3 жыл бұрын
Continuous fiber if you really care about creep... Honestly given how much that bed sags with CF-nylon, I worry you cant really decrease the problem to a level where you wont notice, with any FDM plastic. PLA is one of the most crystaline, which is good for creep as long as you can keep if below the melting point. Annealed PLA might be your best bet; if you google a bit you can find some papers on the link between creep and annealing PLA. Perhaps printing hollow and filling with a resin might be good; not that they have zero creep but a thermoset materials tend to be in another category than thermoplastic ones.
@Penofhell
@Penofhell 3 жыл бұрын
The V0 in ABS doesn't show creep, and shouldn't with PA-CF parts, Stefan probably had a bad spool of material (as stated by the manufacturer itself). PLA won't work on most loaded parts because of the high temperature once the enclosures is completed (which it should, in most cases), even annealed which btw would be a nightmare to implement due to the heavy deformation during that process.
@eelcohoogendoorn8044
@eelcohoogendoorn8044 3 жыл бұрын
@@Penofhell Not sure about the bad spool making any sense. Nylon is below its Tg at atmospheric humidity, and thats awful news for creep, which apparently some short fibers are not going to fix. I dont think one should have high creep expectations of nylon unless it has continuous fibers in it; and then only along the direction of those continuous fibers. It depends on the material, but crystalline and operating below Tg are both generally very desirable. Annealed PLA can offer both, and ABS at most one of them.
@eelcohoogendoorn8044
@eelcohoogendoorn8044 3 жыл бұрын
I just remembered: ive seen a plain-sand epoxy mixture recommended as an excellent castable machine-base. It supposedly approaches the stiffness of pure silica, has great damping properties, and I imagine creep is going to be fine as well. And its cheap. I suppose density isnt ideal for the moving parts though...
@naasking
@naasking 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, definitely will check the Voron out. Looking forward to those creep tests! I had a notion that PLA creep was partly due to water absorption. I ran a simple creep test with bare PLA, and PLA coated with polyurethane. The single poly coat actually did have less creep, but unclear if that's just because the poly added some stiffness of its own.
@hb9dod
@hb9dod 3 жыл бұрын
Got the Kit from Formbot and it came within a week. Communication was great for special wishes like a dragon hot end is stead of the standard. It came complete with a lot of extra screws and connectors. Absolutely great. Can only recommend this dealer..
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to heat that!
@APEX.86
@APEX.86 3 жыл бұрын
Creep test, please!!!
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 3 жыл бұрын
+1
@APEX.86
@APEX.86 3 жыл бұрын
@@CNCKitchen Can I suggest both a tensile and compression creep test? I think it would be very interesting to see if there is a difference .
@Nitram_3d
@Nitram_3d 3 жыл бұрын
use mainsail or fluidd... octoprint is a hassle.. Bowden at speed needs a stiff bowden..
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 3 жыл бұрын
only have a short piece of Capricorn Tube installed at the moment.
@Nitram_3d
@Nitram_3d 3 жыл бұрын
@@CNCKitchen I reinforced mine... And ditched the quick connectors
@darkmtbg
@darkmtbg 2 жыл бұрын
I may look into this. I think the whole quick printer is really awesome. I like the idea that its compact and quick, Sometimes smaller and quicker are just better
@MrGerhardGrobler
@MrGerhardGrobler 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Good luck with your 10 minute Bency. My 1st printer was a custom build printer I baught from a company that does 3D stuff. I paid roughly $200 for my 120x120x120 coreXY printer. I had a standard board that finally gave way a year ago. But before that I used it for prototyping nosecones for model rockets. I even printed parts to fix kitchen cuboard's and stuff. As always I find your videos enducational, Entertaining and inovative. Sorry for the spelling. English is a 2nd language..
@vladi_g
@vladi_g 3 жыл бұрын
Voron means "raven" in Russian.
@Mister_Stork
@Mister_Stork 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I always asked myself if there was a meaning behind it! :)
@nirecue
@nirecue 3 жыл бұрын
The guy who started Voron goes by Russian Cat Food.
@Mister_Stork
@Mister_Stork 3 жыл бұрын
@@nirecue cat food?
@certified-forklifter
@certified-forklifter 3 жыл бұрын
Use ABS as specified! :) Great video.
@Yar6500
@Yar6500 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best projects I've seen for quite some time, brilliant. Considering I already have some parts like Lerge board and direct extruder assembly, incorporating these parts plus some from the old printer into Voron would be a good way to go. Also I want to point out relatively small footprint for the build volume that is not typical for CoreXY architecture. I am excited to build that in future, probably will go for Voron 2
@danhyde7501
@danhyde7501 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this since you tweeted about it 😬😁
@AdamRW240
@AdamRW240 3 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed that your crimpers don't have googley eyes
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 3 жыл бұрын
😭 I'm sorry.
@tscc
@tscc 3 жыл бұрын
Please print the replacement parts in ABS as suggested by the team, if you want to avoid that sort of problems. It has a reason why after multiple iterations, the Voron still uses ABS despite the existence of all those supposedly fancier materials.
@NBFL
@NBFL 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, no reason at all to attempt using other materials
@dnstech8627
@dnstech8627 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you for reviewing it, I use a voron extruder on my Tronxy, Makerbot and Anet A8, I love it.
@teenflon
@teenflon 3 жыл бұрын
Never thought of this before but this is a fantastic idea! I’ve been trying to think where my Anet A8 can go but all my cupboards are too small, and you’re right I almost never print bigger than 10x10, co I could make this and use it in my office cupboard, and have my anet elsewhere for any larger prints. Will have to give it a try!
@elmariachi5133
@elmariachi5133 3 жыл бұрын
I heard of the Voron before. Also I heard the community was toxic and wouldn't make it easy for beginners to get a grip. You probably didn't need much help, but I guess that's why it isn't more popular.
@CompuKonstantin
@CompuKonstantin 3 жыл бұрын
_laughs in poor_
@christopherwolford6522
@christopherwolford6522 3 жыл бұрын
Love everything you have done. If you ever find time, I would love a good video on layer height, nozzle size and detail. From using we all learn the basics, but if you want to go fast and change setting for pre made files or to design your own models it would be good to understand the limits of layer height and nozzle size (line width) vs details. It seems no one ever touches on this. Just bigger and faster means less. I am sure there is some kinda of math to it that dictate smallest arcs or radiuses are diameters of circles etc. Thanks for your time if your read this.
@nathanwatrous1519
@nathanwatrous1519 3 жыл бұрын
It’s awesome to see your face man, you are a legend!!!
@kyleadams2419
@kyleadams2419 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this video since it was mentioned in the Melt Zone
@JosVanTongeren
@JosVanTongeren 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I am sourcing the parts for a Voron v0 at the moment. Hope more parts arrive soon. Will print my parts using ABS from Fillamentum. And it will be a dedicated 0.25 nozzle printer.
@runklestiltskin_2407
@runklestiltskin_2407 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you are giving me hope, that the kit v2.4 I ordered a bit ago is not going to be scrap.
@tronique5736
@tronique5736 2 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of this printer! I have an Ender 6 currently, which is great for printing big parts, or large batches of small parts. I am also impressed with how rigid the printer is for it's size, but there is no way it can achieve the lightning fast speeds of the Voron before shaking itself to pieces. Looking forward to building my own Voron Zero! When I have room for more printers that is...
@MakerViking
@MakerViking 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, Stephan. :) I hope to see you on my next V0 stream as well.
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to see yours finished!
@pimvandervliet
@pimvandervliet 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought the kit and some ESUN ABS+ to get this thing started. Thanks for the review!
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 3 жыл бұрын
Have fun with it!
@TheTheoreticalTheorist
@TheTheoreticalTheorist 3 жыл бұрын
I'm liking the Voron coreXY configurations. Will have to try and implement something similar on my 6-foot by 6-foot printer build.
@travistucker7317
@travistucker7317 Жыл бұрын
Any update?
@benvolio36
@benvolio36 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the Voron community!!
@tablatronix
@tablatronix 3 жыл бұрын
Incredible machine, 90% of my prints are fast prototyping, very interested now, thanks
@thiagomeneguette6438
@thiagomeneguette6438 3 жыл бұрын
Little beauty!
@julias-shed
@julias-shed 3 жыл бұрын
Looks great 👍
@iAmTheSquidThing
@iAmTheSquidThing 3 жыл бұрын
Voron machines are so elegant.
@Kady3DPrinting
@Kady3DPrinting 2 жыл бұрын
How did you make the time elapsed video? That circle moves?
@malloott
@malloott 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, I know what too watch today!
@Mjrage
@Mjrage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Stefan, as allways: super interesting video! Thank you for taking the time on making those highly informative and inspiring vids! I am mainly printing parts for usage in the car, therefore they need to withstand temperatures of around 60°C, which makes PLA a non-working option (of course). I have tried PETG already, but got the best results so far with Extrudr's GreenTec Pro: it's easy to print and deals with the higher temperatures way better than PLA, but I would be interested how it performs compared to the "standard" materials. So maybe you could also include this material to your creep-tests once you have the time to start those? There is also a carbon-reinforced option in Extrudr's portfolio. Looking forward to watching the upcoming videos, keep up the good work! Timo
@garymuller9771
@garymuller9771 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, danke für dieses Video :)
@partsdave8943
@partsdave8943 3 жыл бұрын
I'm intrigued, and also had not heard of this printer. Looking forward to see your upgraded version of this. If I build one, I will learn from your 'mistakes' and source quality parts. I would like to have a faster printer, as I only have cartesian styles at this time.
@CNCKitchen
@CNCKitchen 3 жыл бұрын
The V0.1 is will be released not too far in the future.
@rhejamphi
@rhejamphi 3 жыл бұрын
Man do you ever sleep? This is a lot of work. wow. good video. Thank you.
@p07gbar
@p07gbar 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see that heat creep video when you have the time! Love those material test videos
@Beanpapac15
@Beanpapac15 3 жыл бұрын
It's about time someone did a proper review of this guy
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