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@jamesgraham612223 күн бұрын
These presentations are truly excellent. As a retired pilot, I would be one of the first to criticise any factual inaccuracies, I've yet to discover one, concise and to the point, professionally constructed. Well Done all round.
@NalaRichenbach23 күн бұрын
The Check Captain made a few mistakes, but he essentially saved the plane and everyone's life.
@JoshuaGillard-mh9kp23 күн бұрын
Yea you have a good point
@f-xdemers282523 күн бұрын
Well ! I don't want to be saved. I want to be safe ! This was not it.
@user-mg6wn4hs5t21 күн бұрын
Thank you. Well said. If Check Captain hadn't intervened, that plane would have definitely crashed. The Check Captain is "redeemable" IMO with some more training, of course. The Trainee Captain shouldn't be allowed to fly again. Maybe he should be a taxi driver or something...but if I knew he was a Captain on a plane I was about to fly on, I'd cancel my flight & reschedule.
@StevenBanks12323 күн бұрын
“Good morning, ladies and gentlemen to Air Transat. Our pilot in command today is a trainee. Enjoy your flight.” What a mess.
@mcraft224023 күн бұрын
Trainee captain with a decade of flight experience.
@StevenBanks12322 күн бұрын
@@mcraft2240 You’re right of course… but that unfortunate word “trainee” just resonates. You it and you imagine somebody with a “student driver” bumper sticker on their pants.
@user-mg6wn4hs5t21 күн бұрын
My opinion may sound harsh, but that Trainee Captain was just a hot mess dumpster fire. The Check Captain was just a bit more competent than the Trainee Captain. Trainee Captain was as worthless as a tick on a dog. I couldn't believe when I read that the Trainee Captain took back control over the plane after the problem was overcome. If I was the Check Captain I'd have told him, "No. I will continue to fly until this plane lands. You can handle the radio & call-out duties." The Check Captain is redeemable with regards to have a flying career...with more training, of course. The Trainee Captain will repeat mistakes in the future because he doesn't handle stress at all.
@davidgoodman692423 күн бұрын
"We have clearance Clarence." "Roger, Roger." "What's our vector Victor."
@MegaJasonic21 күн бұрын
LoL! You know, if you watch the video, the problem is really that nobody was flying the plane.
@user-mg6wn4hs5t21 күн бұрын
You're too funny! I needed a good laugh this evening.
@starpawsy21 күн бұрын
Shirley you can't be serious?
@dx145019 күн бұрын
Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?
@starpawsy10 күн бұрын
@@dx1450 Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
@ranchopatriot23 күн бұрын
Needed a check-check Captain.
@FlymanMS23 күн бұрын
“My name is Captain Check-Check”
@malcolmwhite658823 күн бұрын
All jokes aside, sometimes they do : in the jumpseat between the two pilots there will often be a “safety pilot”, who is a training captain himself, Usually - his role is to just generally oversee the trainee, and the trainer and make sure that nothing is missed in both the training and for the safety of the flight.
@malcolmwhite658823 күн бұрын
@@FlymanMS they are usually from Russia, or that part of the world. Called Captain checkoff.😂
@AnotherPointOfView94423 күн бұрын
@@malcolmwhite6588 ... and always takes his children for extra safety.
@senilyDeluxe23 күн бұрын
Would a Czech check captain be sufficient?
@Schrottkralle23 күн бұрын
The perfect example of non-existent Crew Resource Management. That might end fatal.
@BlueSkyUp_EU23 күн бұрын
The incident resulted in adjusting SOP's, so it's more like the perfect example of under optimized SOPs.
@klocknerdeutz23 күн бұрын
It is amazing how much trouble can arise from an inadvertent TO/GA activation...
@robbmanchester574723 күн бұрын
Any training to fully plug in your headphones …
@Philobeddoe1223 күн бұрын
An air trainee captain flying 89 passengers in snowy conditions. Makes perfect sense to me.
@waynejpark56023 күн бұрын
You don’t know enough about aviation to comment. How would you suggest a new Captain be assessed & checked?
@donnabaardsen537223 күн бұрын
@@waynejpark560 I suggest they train in empty aircraft, not one full of passengers.
@waynejpark56023 күн бұрын
@@donnabaardsen5372 You obviously don’t know how the industry works, so maybe don’t comment as if you do. You just look foolish.
@csolivais197923 күн бұрын
@@donnabaardsen5372trainee captains still have a lot of flight experience. Not like they plucked him off the street the day before.
@theMoerster23 күн бұрын
@@donnabaardsen5372 He was a trainee CAPTAIN...not a trainee pilot. He'd been flying for Air Canada for over a decade as a First Officer including 4 years on this type.
@wes11bravo23 күн бұрын
Another banger, Allec Josh! Deep analysis and explication of these incidents is so vital to prevent them from reoccurring - you do this very efficiently in all of your videos.
@Nobilangelo23 күн бұрын
The passengers must have been terrified.
@AnotherPointOfView94423 күн бұрын
They were Czech passengers 🤣🤣🤣
@midgie116623 күн бұрын
Why??
@s.kirtivasen15699Күн бұрын
🤣💀😝@@AnotherPointOfView944
@samcarranza854423 күн бұрын
These videos certainly give an interesting perspective to flying!
@psalm2forliberty57723 күн бұрын
Wow if that's a Training Captain - Sounds like they recruit from - Captain Crunch Cereal Airlines !
@michaelsimpson249023 күн бұрын
I look forward to Thursdays and my dose of Allec Joshua Ibay
@burtfisher705919 күн бұрын
why?
@KyoushaPumpItUp23 күн бұрын
The fact that this doesn't have a wikipedia article, nor is it mentioned in Air Transat's wikipedia page under the accidents section baffles me. I wanted to read more after watching this not gonna lie.
Loll that's a fairytale script not an investigation report.
@merckmaguddayao681422 күн бұрын
Kuya Allec is the Ernie Baron of flight disasters. He knows the obscure, unpublished ones.
@malcolmwhite658823 күн бұрын
Can understand that they were overwhelmed. However, in someways shows that pilots today rely, and I trained too much on automation, and not on hand, flying the most basic stuff, you learn when flying a Cessna is the relationship between climbing, descending and power, and if the control forces are high, then re-trim it should be 100% intuitive specially in airliner where it is a very easy electric trim. You would think where stick forces are great that would be your first instinct. What is frightening to me is when these crews are busy and overwhelmed they actually forget/fail to just fly the aircraft in the most basic way. The stories like this, that have become heroic, such as the Sully, story Gimli glider taca airlines on the levy-There’s a numerous others are pilots, who, actually not only able to stay calm, but have excellent stick and rudder skills still.
@asteverino856923 күн бұрын
Coincidence, unrealistic assumptions and bad luck. Glad they did not become another fatal accident flight.
@phugoid23 күн бұрын
This can happen to the best; it was just bad luck that it did for the PIC with another chap behind him watching - whose inputs, incidentally, were handy and prevented an accident!
@ryanlund722023 күн бұрын
Automation is your friend until it isn't.
@andrewk299623 күн бұрын
That was the most stressful take off I've watched, and I've seen a lot of Allec's videos. Talk about the stick leading the blind man.
@mikedriggers363521 күн бұрын
89 people had no idea how close to death they were. 2 knuckleheads in command. 😮
@bobhead624323 күн бұрын
Well put together my Friend ! .
@naknaksdadn57223 күн бұрын
The only thing malfunctioning were the pilots.
@dx145019 күн бұрын
The problem was a loose nut behind the control yoke.
@FlymanMS23 күн бұрын
For some reason it reminded me of “Samir, listen to my calls!”
@billmcg167623 күн бұрын
Million dollar flying machine, 2 experienced pilots, a routine take-off goes FUBAR because the pilot's headset became unplugged?!? 😮 Did they add a headset checklist item to the take off checklist?? 😅
@wobblybobengland23 күн бұрын
happened with a dodgy seat too, Air India Express Flight 611, hit a wall
@pomerau23 күн бұрын
It was descending rapidly though .... isn't that the holy grail of attention grabbers during the take off climb out? They were only aiming for 3,000ft I know. I'll be honest, I thought this was going to hit dirt when I saw it go below 1,000 ft on the excellent graphics here. I was trying to remember such a catatrophy. In the end, my empathy only went out to the aircraft after a long life. BTW did the A310 have sidesticks or yokes? I can never get my head around why there's strong physical forces needed on a fly by wire system.
@dennysmith528423 күн бұрын
He always the best and most accurate. Kudos to you.
@user-tj8wv7ri7d23 күн бұрын
My question is, how did the trainee captain make it through the simulator phase of the training. It is apparent the trainee had little if any situational awareness and seriously acked aircraft operational knowledge.
@mikek837723 күн бұрын
Is the trainee captain not an experienced co-pilot before this? If so, why does it seem like they become all thumbs and mush for brains?
@waynejpark56023 күн бұрын
Another armchair quarterback….
@slidefirst69423 күн бұрын
@@waynejpark560Hopefully you will be a passenger on such a flight that doesn't make it
@saragreen457823 күн бұрын
@@slidefirst694 😮
@user-mg6wn4hs5t21 күн бұрын
@@waynejpark560 wth? What do you think the comment section is for? To just give flowery compliments? That Trainee Captain went TO PIECES when the stress got high & that plane would've crashed if it weren't for the intervention of the Check Captain.
@waynejpark56019 күн бұрын
@@slidefirst694 Same to you.
@maxtornogood22 күн бұрын
Amazing what can happen when something comes ever so slightly detached!
@masamune784423 күн бұрын
I thought I had seen the aircraft registration somewhere before, and this aircraft was used as Air Transat flight 961 which was the incident in 2005 over cuba.
@bobmillerick30023 күн бұрын
I thought they "bugged" those speeds. Even in a glass cockpit they can set those speeds.
@BREEEZE102317 күн бұрын
New subsciber po bait ng tatay nyo po .
@bullseyes198323 күн бұрын
I guess someone will never get that fourth bar 😅
@dx145019 күн бұрын
And I think the check captain should have lost one...
@b.t.35623 күн бұрын
How not to fly a passenger jet: Step 1: Be the trainee captain of this flight
@QuaintMelissaK23 күн бұрын
I don’t think the trainee pilot passed the check.
@treefrog196223 күн бұрын
These two should never have been allowed to fly anything but a Cessna 150 and only in VFR.
@The1234856723 күн бұрын
Love your videos. Would it be possible to know if the crews in volved in sucessful landings are still flying.
@mmburgess1120 күн бұрын
almost felt like the Boeing engineers were collaborating with Airbus for a minute.....
@thomaspiedmont22 күн бұрын
C-GPAT was the same plane that suffred the incident of Flight 961 😳
@jmWhyMe23 күн бұрын
The complex Bus AP strikes again, along with lots of human errors...
@richardgeorge313622 күн бұрын
Did they both keep their jobs ?😮
@BillGreenAZ23 күн бұрын
These are great snow graphics. Well done, Allec!
@AnotherPointOfView94423 күн бұрын
??
@5roundsrapid26322 күн бұрын
Airbus jets can have runaway trim too? I thought that was just a Boeing feature!
@keithcolwell170623 күн бұрын
Why did the trainee captain turn off the autopilot a few seconds after the check captain engaged it? Who was right?
@user-mg6wn4hs5t21 күн бұрын
I'm wondering the same thing & maybe I missed something, but it seems that detail was never addressed.
@r.o.133023 күн бұрын
....i've got to think there were some upset passengers on this flight!
@WendyKS9321 күн бұрын
I'm wondering if maybe both of these pilots needed more training.
@richardnagarjunasuryaprase201023 күн бұрын
11:37 it's Adam air flight 574 not flight 571
@arturo46823 күн бұрын
This was almost a catastrophe back in 2008. Imagine how serious things could get now with a pilot shortage and widespread DEI hiring in airlines and ATC. Take the bus or train is my advice (Retired ATP)
@YanDaOne_QC22 күн бұрын
A fairytale that never happened
@kronos538523 күн бұрын
The Airbus A310 has a control column? I thought all Airbus planes used the Joystick control.
@dehavillandcanadatwinotter962123 күн бұрын
Not until the A320 they made that change. A300 and A310 were still yoke.
@AnotherPointOfView94423 күн бұрын
Would have thought that after a minute or so they would have noticed a lack of communication between the two of them via headsets. "Lips move, I can't hear what your saying" to paraphrase.
@2760ade23 күн бұрын
He was only coming through in waves?😂
@keith397023 күн бұрын
And now...let's hear from the experts
@Houndini18 күн бұрын
What are the odds of both pilots having a terrible Monday on the job at the same time? They both should have kissed Mother Earth upon landing.
@briancarno883723 күн бұрын
did he pass his check ride?
@andrewthomas534823 күн бұрын
Is it unusual to train someone during a snowstorm? Just wondering. Maybe it's considered routine in Canada?
@DrMatey21523 күн бұрын
Flying in inclement weather always makes me nervous. This situation described in the video was complicated and involved. Luckily the pilots had a guardian angel.
@lisablack238920 күн бұрын
Yes the guardian angel was Jesus!
@LuchinoBruttomesso23 күн бұрын
Nice
@crocetti464323 күн бұрын
Did they fly without auto-pilot?
@peggyl284922 күн бұрын
I was wondering about why it would have been turned off, but maybe when the TO/GA was inadvertently activated, that disengages the autopilot? Maybe it wasn't deliberately disengaged.
@user-mg6wn4hs5t21 күн бұрын
@@peggyl2849 the video stated the Trainee Captain turned the autopilot off a few seconds after the Check Captain engaged it. This part of this flight I don't think was addressed again & it leaves me with more questions.
@pauldow164823 күн бұрын
Almost most incidents on earth and it's space are human factored.
@riogrande576123 күн бұрын
Was that pilot IFR rated? How about the check pilot. The emergency is the captain trainee needs more training. That is nuts.
@rotor-head23 күн бұрын
V1 and Vr are bugged. The flying pilot should have had enough SA to rotate at Vr. What's the back story that the trainee was so weak ?
@dx145019 күн бұрын
Does this mean the check captain also failed the check ride?
@adamfarzad231923 күн бұрын
The control column was unusable…due to the trim was in complete oposite direction…..this is why they couldnt move it…the 310 is a dangerous aircraft the most dedliest……..
@oldbird-zm8qt23 күн бұрын
"Sonny. That was close". I find near miss incidents like this just as interesting. Sadly, with the current push to lower admission standards in order to fill "diversity" quotas, we will likely have a lot more like this soon.
@johntaylor596823 күн бұрын
Let’s just face ❤it SO MUCH CAN GO WRONG and when it does you’re usually toast.
@SKF35821 күн бұрын
Where's the narrator?
@JohnJohansen221 күн бұрын
I would wish you gave me half, or even a whole second extra time to read the text! Please.
@70mavgr18 күн бұрын
How can a trainee captain be so incompetent?
@badgerbait835123 күн бұрын
An airport named Trudeau. What a nightmare.
@slidefirst69423 күн бұрын
Named for the father of the current communist puppet dictator.
@analtubegut6623 күн бұрын
Better than being named "The ones who stand with the swastika"
@theresacaron423820 күн бұрын
Stepfather of the current dictator whose real dad has a different name.
@Madskills81023 күн бұрын
Dumb and Dumber
@anandguruji8323 күн бұрын
Cockpit Mayhem | Air Transat Flight 211
@anandguruji8323 күн бұрын
Cockpit Mayhem | Air Transat Flight 211
@petuniaskunk231623 күн бұрын
As always…
@NateCraven31823 күн бұрын
@@petuniaskunk2316 It's a bot. It's even on insta.
@vxllfire23 күн бұрын
This guy needs to stop
@NateCraven31823 күн бұрын
@@vxllfire it's a bot
@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid22 күн бұрын
This one definitely had the beginnings of a "everyone on board is killed". Glad it didn't work out that way! SPOILER ALERT: The comment above contains spoilers. If you don't want to know about it, you shouldn't have read the comment. 👍