Cold Bluing Knives - Acid Etch Alternative?

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5 жыл бұрын

Here a quick idea that isn't new, but it might be interesting if you haven't tried it before. Enjoy!
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@collinstphillip 5 жыл бұрын

I've tried it on stainless steel, it doesn't work. Great little knife.

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for that feedback! I'll pin your comment to let other know👍

@evaderknives 5 жыл бұрын

Check Caswell's sight, they have a stainless steel oxide.. It's under metal antiquing

@jackspradt1562 5 жыл бұрын

dude, he literally said that @1:10 in -- did you bother to watch or just thought you had to comment?

@evaderknives 5 жыл бұрын

@@jackspradt1562 I think what you are missing, is the fact Jeremy said "I haven't tried it".. I can't speak for Collin, but maybe he was responding that he did... Maybe before being judgemental next time, try understanding we are all just here to help and learn from each other...

@jamesm3268 5 жыл бұрын

You need caswell stainless black etch. This is gun bluing it's a form of oxide rust... Obviously not going to work on stainless.

@DavidMHaupt 5 жыл бұрын

The bluing/sanding brought that knife to a whole new level. Looks great, Jeremy!

@ethanwigginton6421 5 жыл бұрын

Just recently picked up a bottle and am exited to try it! Great vid as always!

@e.t.preppin7084 5 жыл бұрын

Perfect timing. I’ve been trying to decide whether to put scales on my neck knife or not. Now I know what I’m going to do. Thanks

@heyimamaker 5 жыл бұрын

I like that texture, it reminds me of those old tool boxes from the 50's

@vintagetiger2059 4 жыл бұрын

Beautiful knife and finish Thanks for sharing !

@kaskristensen 5 жыл бұрын

Thats so cool! Thanks J! Thats a great idea🤙🏼

@lorenzkorner2814 5 жыл бұрын

With the surface and the finish it almost looks like painted cast iron I like it. Cool video.

@whitecaps775 Жыл бұрын

Cool stuff and new ideas, thanks.

@chadhutchins646 5 жыл бұрын

What a great finish

@andrewhaley8992 4 жыл бұрын

What a beautiful knife.

@johnhammack12 5 жыл бұрын

Being an outdoorsman...I think this is by far the best finished blade you have done.... and so"SIMPLE"...

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

hahaha, thank you very much!

@NuManXplore 5 жыл бұрын

Looks great my friend!! I will have to try that someday!

@TheWoodWerker 5 жыл бұрын

Great Video & Awesomeness thrown your way, for the look of the Knife! I Dig it! Thanks for Sharing! Have A Super Week!.....Gus

@merrion5668 5 жыл бұрын

Nice effect. I have found that heating the metal just warm and then using the blue will get a better finish. Just take the chill out of the metal and it also drys faster. Good job there!

@joecoastie99 5 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of the scotchbrite micarta I make. Love that crackled finish.

@HighSpeedNoDrag 5 жыл бұрын

Sweet and well done.

@samhoffman764 5 жыл бұрын

Very neat, kinda wondered about this route. Thanks for the video!

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. 👍

@JohnJohnson-bg2oo 2 жыл бұрын

I recently used paste bluing on a santoku myself. Worked really well, and gave it a halfway finished look like the Japanese knives have.

@TheHellfiremissile 4 жыл бұрын

thank for the video. great little knife!

@hootenknives153 4 жыл бұрын

one of my favorite finishes

@rolandjones3992 5 жыл бұрын

I dip my knives in a container full of gun blue to get a even patina. Then repeat after rubbing it with steel wool to get a really dark patina.

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you for the tips! 🙏

@richardbohlingsr3490 5 жыл бұрын

Turned out nice.

@0neTwo3 5 жыл бұрын

That’s a GREAT look. Its always so satisfying when short cuts wind up looking better than the long traditional way.

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

hahaha thank you! It is satisfying when that happens isn't it? 👍

@evaderknives 5 жыл бұрын

I would argue this isn't really a shortcut, the oxide cost more takes a little more effort, but you are right in that it last longer & is tougher...

@JoeyAtilano 5 жыл бұрын

I use this a lot too. Best part is you can always hit it again and renew the finish.

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah buddy! Pretty slick way to go. 👍

@charlessexton1719 5 жыл бұрын

If you want to make it a beautiful blue. Put the knife in an oven set at 250 degrees for 10 minutes. Apply your first coat of cold blue while the knife is still warm. Buff it out with 4 ought steel wool lightly . Repeat the process 3 times and then put a light coat of oil on it and wipe it down. It will have a beautiful blue sheen to it when you get done. I do all of my guns this way when I refinish them. Great video. Keep up the good work.

@johnfournier7421 5 жыл бұрын

Nice Look will have to try it . Thanks

@tonygwiz 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome tip. I think I have an unopened bottle of that around here somewhere!

@silveridgefilms9027 5 жыл бұрын

Love your work and channel. Agree with the idea of a random texture to preserve the look of the finished knife. I'm going to try this, for sure! Can u comment on Andy Roy's (Fiddleback Outpost) "spalted steel" finish.....

@solosniper86 5 жыл бұрын

I blued my first knife. I applied 8 coats. I used a foam brush for the application. It turned out super black and consistent. One thing I must mention is make sure your first coat is evenly applied because there was one spot where I put some on and unintentionally let it sit a bit before I continued and there was a semi-noticeable line where I hesitated. Other than that I was really happy with how it turned out. Also, putting a light coat of mineral oil on it right after your final coat dries seems to help the initial bluing application last a little longer. Great video, and I love how the knife turned out!

@petergestels 5 жыл бұрын

great stuff ! thank you for sharing .

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. 👍

@thesuperzfamilyvlog6607 5 жыл бұрын

Looks great and while I appreciate the long high production videos, I enjoy you putting out content (I always learn something), and I really don't mind a "lower production" video. This was great.

@Aardrijk1 5 жыл бұрын

Pretty cool little shank! I need to get a needle scaler. They make a good texture.

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, I really like that needle scaler. Fun to be able to change up a little.

@jonathantaylor2584 5 жыл бұрын

Remember to use some oil depending on the steel. My friend was doing some stuff on his gun, forgot to oil afterwards, and it was covered in surface rust by the next weekend.

@DanGoodShotHD 5 жыл бұрын

I've been playing around with some cold bluing for the past year and definitely found CLEAN AF & multiple coats is the key to evenness. Oh, warming up the steel a tad with my heat gun seem to help too.

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

Oh great tips! Thank you! 👍

@dragonwaterforge 5 жыл бұрын

Really cool

@rinaldostreit3632 5 жыл бұрын

Looks awsome 👍

@Lee-NN7X 5 жыл бұрын

Great tips...

@mandycole21 5 жыл бұрын

Hey just want to let you know love the videos keep them coming and keep up the good work also when something is labeled corrosive that doesn't necessarily mean that it can't be used around food because if you were to have Dawn dish soap in a bigger quantity than 5gallon bucket it would have to be labeled corrosive also I do believe and that is used around food all time

@Youtubeforcedmetochangemyname 5 жыл бұрын

Those little blades look awesome have you ever thought of making some with the handle thicker from top to bottom where the first two fingers are and make the holes big enough for those fingers to go through I thing it would increase control especially if using it as a work knife would also reduce risk of slipping off the handle just throwing out an idea you have given me inspiration in the past to make some knives I use files haven't made any with stock yet though

@LifeinFarmland 5 жыл бұрын

Love it! I should pick some up just to touch up some guns.

@gerryballuta 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you

@tylerthomas2699 5 жыл бұрын

Do you think you could do a video on tips for working with micarta handle scales?

@MrGerouxj 5 жыл бұрын

you should try rust bluing some time... definitely more labor intensive, but gives a sweet finish

@evaderknives 5 жыл бұрын

I actually prefer something like caswell's black oxide, it's the same idea, but it comes out really black & it's tough... I even tried stonewashing, but it barely did anything... A pint makes a gallon(you dip the blade, wiping on is inconsistent)... You only mix what you need, cause it goes bad after metal contact(water, then use penetrating oil to seal it in)... Alec Steele used it last year & when I told him that, he was like "oh that's why it doesn't work as good"... Love all these tips, thanks for the content, take it easy...

@ascraft_germany7996 5 жыл бұрын

Love the babbeling!

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, thank you!

@sledfast3527 4 жыл бұрын

If the gun blue isn't talking to a certain spot, your supposed to run over it lightly with fine steel wool

@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын

👍

@savagebladestx Жыл бұрын

One thing that helped my get an even finish, is to mix that little bottle of bluing solution with water in a glass. Then submerge the knife in the mixture and watch the magic. I’ve also seen people put the mixture in a spray bottle and get good results that way.

@Keith_the_knife_freak 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing 👍👍👍👍

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome buddy! Thank you for watching!

@pcjpcj4070 4 жыл бұрын

Go to brownells. Purchase Mark lee express brown #2 and bottle of OXPHO-BLUE®. Need a heat gun. Apply 3 coats of the brown as directed. Than as many coats of the oxpho to get the desired blue color. Then you will have something that will last.

@aleksandrfilatov9194 5 жыл бұрын

I think gunblued blade is safe for food if you wash it properly because patina on the blade is just a layer of oxides very similiar to that you can get from acid etch, mustard, vinegar etc. Or from regular knife use. I personally force patina with Coca-Cola due to its avaliability & low reactivity. Gives patina with colours from gray to black depending on soaking time. Though it definetely takes longer to force patina & you better boil it first to let all bubbles go out for more even coating.

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I wondered about that. Something to look into more. That Coke idea is really cool! I've never heard of that before. Cheers! 👍

@iPKnives 5 жыл бұрын

When using cold blue, you actually bond seleniumdioxide to the surface of the steel. It is not the same as a classic etch where you speed up the natural oxidising process of the steel. After putting on the cold blue, don't neutralize immediately. Just put on a coat of WD40 and leave it for 24 hours before cleanup. That leaves a deep, strong and durable finish.

@aleksandrfilatov9194 5 жыл бұрын

Hm, interesting. I did a quick search through Google & all information I could gather is either commercial or controversial. Is there any source where I can read more about this process (with chemical explanation & formulas)?

@walte99 5 жыл бұрын

Great video! I have not been really fired up about the needle scaler finish until now but I really like it blued. Do you use the scaler before or after heat treat? Also, one problem I have is the rounding off of the spine. Could you do a video on your process for doing that? Both with and without scales. Thanks!

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I use the needle scaler before heat treat. I should do a video on that! 👍

@walte99 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I assumed pre-HT. Look forward to a video on the rounding process.

@The-Bladeslinger 4 жыл бұрын

Will using super blue work similar to the ferric chloride to get the stone wash look? Thank you

@ivangarcia-ph3tx 3 жыл бұрын

Hi my friend, nice video!!! Between super blue and 75%ferricChloride25%vinegar which one do you prefer???? Which one is more durable??? Thanks a lot.

@markgutierrez7000 5 жыл бұрын

Nice

@nicholasstephenson573 5 жыл бұрын

Try acid and cold blue. And after each coat buff it or use steel wool. It inproves consistency and gives a better finish.

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

Right on. Thanks for those tips!!!🙏

@oregonianpjb 5 жыл бұрын

How does your etched maker's mark fare under the blueing?

@craftedbytimyt 5 жыл бұрын

ALWAYS wash this stuff off with water after, the chemical can seep out of the metal and into your hands after you take off your gloves so do be careful with this stuff, anyway great video and thanks for sharing your ways with us, take care and happy crafting! -Tim

@johnweems4586 5 жыл бұрын

Try using some plum brown barrel finish and see what that looks like!

@seansysig 5 жыл бұрын

The blueing and sandy high spots creates a repeatable finish! How much for a EDC like that with kydex sheath?

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

$150 plus shipping 👍

@cassanoa 4 жыл бұрын

would this stuff be good on non stainless tools

@dylanh8927 4 жыл бұрын

Perma blue works alittle better that's stuffs more for touch ups.... and next bottle you should dump some out to use or use a different q tip every time you dip to avoid weakening the strength due to Cross contamination

@Danielson1818 Жыл бұрын

What about food safety though? Is a blued knife good or not to slice food with. I've done a lot of patina and etching with vinegar, and that doesn't worry me, but bluing seems like it could get us real sick. I'm trying to figure out what I what to do with my new carbon kitchen knives.

@NRiggiKnives 5 жыл бұрын

What would work on stainless to get the same effect?

@dylanteets921 2 жыл бұрын

How long did you needle scale for? I doubt you will see this or respond but it's worth a shot

@_jaeger_fabian 5 жыл бұрын

Normally, after wipe it with gun blue, you have to use some oil for the finish. The gun blue soaked up the oil and the result is much better, more black. You have to lay it in oil and let it soak. But thanks for sharing ✌️👌😉

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

Sweet, thank you for the tips! You're welcome and cheers!

@ravensroostforge 5 жыл бұрын

Sharp looking finsh, thanks for sharing! FYI though, I'm fairly certain that cold bluing does not provide any significant corrosion protection. Hot bluing and rust bluing provide some rust protection in conjunction w/oil. Cold blue recreates the color of bluing without creating the black oxide layer. Keep up the good work!

@willey28 5 жыл бұрын

Love the video! I used this on my first blade. Then, like you’ve said, experiment, I wanted a really black finish. So instead of following the directions and repeating that process a gazillion times, I tried soaking the blade in the blue. Experiment failed. That stuff are holes into the blade. The surface wasn’t any darker either. It looked cool, but just destroyed the metal. Lesson learned and move on to the next blade.

@evaderknives 5 жыл бұрын

Check out a black oxide(there are a few, but most are $18 for a few oz..), like Caswells(a pint makes a gallon)... just don't mix it all at once, just use what you need, it goes bad once it hits metal... After dipping, wash off with water, then use a penetrating oil to seal it in...

@tattoosteveneo 5 жыл бұрын

Cool look. No amount of cold bluing works on stainless steel. I’ve tried almost everything on the market for cold bluing. Black oxide hot dip is the only way, or coating with cerakote etc.

@Goreplay 3 жыл бұрын

will it really be unsafe for food? i mean, its not the bluing that remains dark on the steel, but oxidation of some sort? if there was bluing left it would continue eating the steel? I dont know, just my speculations :P

@tarkeshwarsingh4561 2 жыл бұрын

So should I blu or etch my knife? Any pros and cons to each?

@kalblades Жыл бұрын

What was the thickness of that steel?

@Captaraknospider 2 жыл бұрын

Can you ferric C etch then blue?

@alexgolden8316 4 жыл бұрын

What steel is this knife made from?

@waynestinyworld 5 жыл бұрын

Looks great and would make a nice EDC. But I can't cut an apple with it because it's toxic??? Whhhaaatttt? :)

@joshwebb4442 5 жыл бұрын

you have to thoroughly degrease it or else it won't work properly, good stuff!

@darc1027 4 жыл бұрын

I wound if you dipped the knife into a container of bluing if that would be any better as far as an even spread. Not sure though

@bradyhalbrook9707 4 жыл бұрын

Would you recommend acid etch for kitchen knives ?

@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын

I have done it before but there’s some folks who think it’s a bad idea if using something like ferric chloride. I see both sides but not 100% convinced either way. As long as you properly clean the blade after etching there should be no issues.

@scotscheideman9800 5 жыл бұрын

"Blueing" whether "Hot" or "Cold" is very similar to acid etching,,,, it is not "coats" of material you are applying ,,,but basicly fast oxidizing the metal itself (this is why it doesn't work on stainless steel). After you clean it off , the surface is colored metal , not a coat of blueing, this is a common misconception. Hot Blueing is usually a "Casustic Salts" solution heated to about 300°f and the metal part immersed for several minutes, then immediatley cleaned and oiled to to stop the corrosive chemical reaction.

@helpstepbroimstuck3818 5 жыл бұрын

it think it looks beatiful it almost look like it was cast

@billbaggins 5 жыл бұрын

Is blueing the new black ? 😏 4th or 5th vid this week on blueing

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

hahaha! Really? Who else is uploading about bluing? I haven't had time to check out videos much lately 😆

@billbaggins 5 жыл бұрын

Abom79 and This Old Tony both did some blueing and a few other random ones i dont remember

@jdigou1 5 жыл бұрын

Sandblast first. the chemical don't like oils from your skin After you apply the bluing Add some hydrolic oil to lock in the bluing

@centorossi46 5 жыл бұрын

Can anyone tell me what is the active compound of this product? I mean, steel blue is just the commercial name and here in spain we dont have gun shops so im asking to find a similar product in my country. Thanks

@szymonjastrzebski2909 5 жыл бұрын

Usually selenium dioxide

@centorossi46 5 жыл бұрын

@@szymonjastrzebski2909 thanks for the info.

@centorossi46 5 жыл бұрын

@@gladeshunter8796 thanks for the info.

@rolandjones3992 5 жыл бұрын

Also mustard is fun for patterns and hot apple cider vinager for a greyer patina

@va941 5 жыл бұрын

Why IS IT xalled blueing when itse actually blackeking

@ScoutSniper3124 3 жыл бұрын

Shrugs shoulders... "There's directions on here". Thanks, that's the MOST AMERICAN THING I'VE HEARD IN A WEEK OR MORE!

@Simplelittlelife 3 жыл бұрын

From a Canadian...

@Xraller 5 жыл бұрын

What metal was that knife made of?

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

O-1 tool steel 👍

@simonhopkins3867 5 жыл бұрын

Video reported. For cruelty to auto focus. ;-) great looking knife. 👍

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

hahaha! Hope you don't have too much of a headache now 😆 Thank you!👍

@dragonwaterforge 5 жыл бұрын

Babbling means your excited it's ok

@jordandyck86 5 жыл бұрын

Just buff it with a bit of steel wool between coats and it removes all the blotchiness

@dougbish1728 5 жыл бұрын

I've had no luck bluing 5160 with that same product.

@vsauce6940 5 жыл бұрын

I think i am first

@degerlitaslar375 5 жыл бұрын

@dahlmasen3084 5 жыл бұрын

Acid etch doesnt sound very food safe either😉 But maybe it is, I dont know very much about ”blueing” other than I dont like it very much😁

@dahlmasen3084 5 жыл бұрын

Its a great way to prevent rust though👍🏻 Could you use the needle thingy (I forgot the name🤦🏻‍♂️) on stainless steel?

@olliranto6330 5 жыл бұрын

Cold blue finish is food safe because it is just iron oxides. That liquid I wouldn't drink. If you clean the liquid off then it's food safe.

@danhard8440 5 жыл бұрын

I like the fact that when your just talking I don't need to put you in 1.25X or 1.5X or the really Sothern boys I have to 1.75X because they talk sooo slow haa haaa

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

hahaha! Most people complain that I talk too fast 😆👍