I agree with you on the sharpened clip. My husband just had his Bowie worked on by Bill Bagwell. Razor primary, very sharp clip and the tip sharpened and radiused. Both Bill Bagwell and James A. Keating focus on that back cut when it comes to the Combat Bowie. "Bowie Basics" and "The Deadly Back Cut" are two must watch DVDs if you are a Combat Bowie person.
@lckgilmo434 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna buy myself one for Christmas. A Frontier Bowie reminds me of a cut down saber. Lol I already own Cold Steel knives. OSS in AUS-8, Recon Tanto in 3V and some other models. I have absolutely no complaints about Cold Steel. For your money there the best production knives on the market. As long as Lynn Thompson is alive they'll always be in business.
@StMooresFire9 жыл бұрын
I have always loved daggers and knives! They are great when there are pranksters on your roof! It was great to hear the detail of the bowie in your video!
@MrBillybrown6610 жыл бұрын
Hey Man, I just ordered this knife today and your honest and unbiased review had a lot to do with that. Thanks:)
@MrRugercat4510 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU, that is exactly the reason I am doing these videos! Honest, unbiased reviews. I pay for every knife I get, and I realize so do you guys!
@MrRugercat4510 жыл бұрын
This review was really short, a much more in-depth video discussing this bowie and many others will follow shortly, stay tuned!
@MrRugercat4510 жыл бұрын
P.S. By the way, the price on these at Cold Steel Special Projects is now $159.99 - not too bad compared to some of the large bowies out there!
@aitora9798 жыл бұрын
Great Review! Love to see the reviews on your other Cold steel Bowies!!
@QuantumPyrite_88.99 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the info . Nice to see another Bagwell fan . I met him in 1979 - A most interesting character . Good video and My respect .
@palerider71719 жыл бұрын
MrRugercat45 First of all thank for sharing. Its great to see someone holding the moving the blade instead of static pictures. One thing I would like to clarify is the subject of the sharpen clip of the Bowie Knife. I have done a lot of research on the Bowie knife and the sharpen "clip" depends of if you talking about the popular Bowie knife concept, which is what Cold Steel executed here, or the knives that Jim and Rezin most likely carried. The one that Jim carried at the famous Vidalia Sandbar Fight most likely did not have a sharpen clip or swedge because it most likely did not have a swedge at all. In fact it most likely did not have a S guard because it most likely did have a guard either. Eye witness accounts describe the knife Jim used as a "Large butcher knife. and his brother Rezin stated "The length of the blade was nine and one-quarters inches, its width one and one-half inches, single edged and not curved" with a 9 1/2 blade". Butcher knives don't have swedges, clips or guards. Another account was that his brother, Rezin, gave a knife to Jim because he expected trouble from some recent issues Jim had with the Major and his gang. Rezin Knife differently did not have a clip or S guards so if it was his it does not fit the "Bowie Knife" as we think of it. There are accounts that Jim modified his knife but it more likely if he ever carried a knife with a clip and S guard, it was one that was made for him as modifying a Schively/Perkins, Searles/Fowler or Edwin Forrest knife to what we think of a Bowie Knife would be very difficult as the handle is in the wrong location for a guard and cutting the famous "clip" would have most likely cause the tip to snap. Now why Cold Steel does not sharpen the "clip" ... it a liability to them on I knife of that size a weight, it would increase cost, some states consider that a double edged weapon and thus it is illegal, and frankly it hard to get a keen edge on a swedge with that blade thickness. I have a Cold Steel R1 which is much thinner and I had the swedge sharpened and resharpen it myself... it not razor sharp for sure. Even at that I have to watch who I handle the R1 now.If you want that feature on you knife then I believe Cold Steel harden the clip to allow you to do that. Again thank for sharing and I hope this helps.
@MrRugercat459 жыл бұрын
William Phillips You're absolutely correct on the Jim Bowie info, definitely. He carried basically "a large butcher knife" ie- no guard. No, later cutlers and knife fighters improved upon this w/a sharpened clip and guard, but many bowies had neither. I really think even with a sharpened clip the 1917 is way too heavy as a true fighting bowie. At least for a little guy like me!
@MrRugercat4510 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have the Natchez, the Laredo, Trailmaster, 1917 Frontier and the Bush Ranger bowies, actually. The Natchez is far more balanced feeling to me, not sure which is heavier but this 1917 feels more "blade heavy" to me and isn't as quick on the recovery as the Natchez or Laredo. How is your Natchez customized? Yeah, I sure will check your vids out. I have more Bowie knife videos coming, some on some knife combat, some history, some reviews of some of my bowies. Check out my newest video, EDC knife evaluation (it may not have a thumbnail yet) it's over an hour long, but at the end I show a new antique bowie I got yesterday (my first antique bowie!)
@ingodillinger98389 жыл бұрын
.. with your scope of comparisions .. this really was a help because I really dont serach for a blade heavy half-axe for my next purchase...thaaanks
@Defengar10 жыл бұрын
They don't have the clip sharpened because in some states there are laws against carrying bouble edged blades. A lot of these laws are really, really old (some go all the way back to the 1830's) and were actually originally put in place to deal with Bowie ownership and duels.
@MrRugercat4510 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's true, however the Laredo Bowie came with the clip sharpened, and it's still a big bowie. Not as big as this one, but still a 10.5" blade. Wonder why the difference. I have LOTS more Bowie videos coming, I will be reviewing some of the bowies that are available and that I have acquired over the years. Thanks for watching-I really appreciate it!
@Defengar10 жыл бұрын
Awesome man, this was a really good review. Definitely earned a sub.
@MrRugercat4510 жыл бұрын
Defengar Thank you! I can't tell you how good it makes a guy feel to hear that. I will do my best to keep my subscribers and youtubers informed. I'm aiming to be the "Everyman's preparedness and gear review channel" Right this moment working on the "Top EDC carry knives" vid, just today got a knife that just might be the perfect EDC knife, the perfect blend of classic traditional and modern!
@Defengar10 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I look forward to the review.
@jackitfast6 жыл бұрын
If you sharpen the back of the clip it makes it illegal to sell in some states. That would be considered a short sword to go along with the 1917 cutlass.
@macmurfy2jka9 жыл бұрын
first off i really appreciate your review. My favorite one of this knife so far. Friendly quick tip, don't film with light shining into the camera. If you had done this video with the window at your front and behind the camera; video quality would improve drastically. Lighting ting is everything in film. (or uber expensive cameras).
@longrider424 жыл бұрын
One,Yes, it is made in India, by Windlass steel, a well known maker of knives and swords, they in turn are under contract to Cold Steel to make this knife. Two, in many states sharpening the false edge or swedge is illegal, check your local laws. Three, if you want it sharpened, do it yourself. I will be receiving mine tomorrow. My biggest beef with this knife is the blue paint Cold Steel uses on it. And yes, it is paint. There are video's on KZfaq showing people removing said paint. Interesting note. Jim Bowie was not a big man, and he used the knife quite effectively. The Bowie is not a finesse type of fighting knife, its a hack and slash, so let the weight work for you. P.S. If you pulled that knife on some one coming at you, more then likely they out turn around and run away.
@grimslayerbrittain4708 жыл бұрын
+MrRugercat45 ALL accounts of the knife fight on the sandbar, indicate heinous damage by UNSHARPENED back swedge. Also, the Bowie is the ONLY BLADE ONTHE FACE OF THE EARTH, DESIGNED FOR HUMAN HAND, (THE BACKSWEGE) isnt just a clip point, it is modeled after the keel of the palm, specifically or throwing.
@CustomC10009 жыл бұрын
Im always amazed how a piece of paper with certificate printed on it is held in such high esteem...and from India no less. lol
@MrRugercat459 жыл бұрын
Mike Hunt Well, it's not the piece of paper that has worth-it's what's written on it. The paper just tells me that the knife has passed certain tests-I know, I know no one knows if they really tested it, yadda yadda. If you take it to the extreme you can question if your parents are really your parents. I will take Cold Steel's word for it, and Windlass Steelcrafts, because they have a LOT more to lose than me. Money, and a lot of it. I'm broke, they are big companies. I trust Cold Steel for the simple reason is they put out their tests on video-'er DVD's. I know, India makes some crap, but Windlass is a British Military Contractor-they HAVE to live up to those specs. The specs are just a minimal assurance, but hey they would have sold as many without the Proof Test, so that is a nice little bonus. India was under British rule for oh almost 2 centuries, and Britain had a lot of conquests under their belt, they USED their blades to subjugate whole continents. Those tests are probably more stringent than our military knives are put through. No offense, I am not trying to put you down, but I am looking at it from a different angle. Hey, it's a Cold Steel knife even without the paper-and they DO make good knives, right?
@CustomC10009 жыл бұрын
As I say its amazing how that piece of paper and what's written on it is perceived. Cold steel are just like all the other mass produced knife makers and yes they do make some good gear.
@357bullfrog8 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed that review. I've had my eye on that verry knife for ... Well soon as it came out I geuss and if and when I can afford it I want to try and get one. I'm like you I'm not planning on a knife fight tho I geuss nobody is but your about my size. I'm 5. 6 and 175 pounds boots and all and that bugged me growing up till an old deputy sheriff told me it's not your size it's the man that's willing and the only person you have to be bigger than is yourself I subbed to your Chanel and like your videos. Thanks. Garry
@ClandestineSurvival10 жыл бұрын
Nice review! I'm fairly new to video reviews myself. Keep up the good work. This knife would look way better with a coffin style handle. I also wish CS used something other than 1055.
@MrRugercat4510 жыл бұрын
Oh, I agree totally, I am not sure what they were going for with the handle shape. It's comfortable enough, sure, but it doesn't look completely "right". Honestly 1055 is possibly the BEST steel they could have used on big hard-use bowie knives, swords and machetes! At least in my opinion. Too many times I see people want more "expensive" steels and they don't realize it's not really necessary, you don't need edge holding more than strength and flexibility in such a knife. It would raise the price however. I personally have no problem with the 1055 steel at all. I appreciate your viewing the video, thanks a lot! Have great day-er, night.
@knighthawk37599 жыл бұрын
I'm so excited I just found this brand new on eBay for $65 I've been wanting a really good Bowie with a hardcore scabbard ever since I saw the knife Jane carried on the TV series Firefly
@MrRugercat459 жыл бұрын
You really lucky to find it for that price! They usually go for around $100. Way to go.
@knighthawk37599 жыл бұрын
yeah I wasn't that lucky turns out it was a fake auction that four other people got pulled into. Of course I got the money back but I'm still kind of sour I wasn't able to get the knife
@CustomC10009 жыл бұрын
Christopher Petterson lol...really...you haven't heard if its too good to be true it probably isn't. Well I guess you have that kinda face
@knighthawk37599 жыл бұрын
Actually...I had doubts and knew I'd get the money back...so I took the chance type of face.....I usually won't buy anything unless the feedback rating is 97% or higher
@CustomC10009 жыл бұрын
Christopher Petterson 97% your game. Im like 99.5% or better. Unfortunately a lot of Cold Steel did get ripped off. That must've been a good chance face u had on cause I dont think id rely on those muppets to get my money back.
@jayp.23139 жыл бұрын
Veryy knowledgeable. I like your style.
@NatureZone1018 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old review - in case someone didn't mention it yet. I am sure the reason they don't sharpen the back is because in some states it is against the law to have a double bladed knife.
@ladams199 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your review. Good luck with your Youtubing. Wish you the best.
@lakesheppard54663 жыл бұрын
What does first quality mean? Is that why I see knives for 200$ and the same knife for 120$?
@coolplayznogame88558 жыл бұрын
After owning1 for some time I thank the handle screws need improvement they're low quality material that can rust.But overall it a well made and design Weapon.
@DannoCrutch9 жыл бұрын
Yes, I missed the 80 buck seconds. I want one to play with and do some modifications to. I.e., make one similar to the Bart Moore example.
@MrRugercat459 жыл бұрын
Now that would be a nice project, I am getting my shop back in order here soon and when I do, I'll be making some bowies-a Bart Moore copy style one, and a Bagwell style Hell's Belle! My Hell's Belle is still on order, but I'll make some combat worthy bowies for a poor man's budget! Neck bowies (neck knife sized) and other knives too. I recently bought a couple old meat cleavers-the kind with a flat knife tang style grip, and will turn them into bowies. The steel in the old butcher/kitchen knives is second to none. It is absolutely superb!
@DannoCrutch9 жыл бұрын
MrRugercat45 Never thought of finding an old cleaver. Great idea!
@Kris_Stiletto10 жыл бұрын
Very good information. I thought these were made in China. I'm glad to see that they are made to high standards... But, I still want American CPM 3V or 1095HC Cro-Van or 1095HC Spring Steel, instead of 1055 Mid-Carbon Spring Steel... But, all in all, this is a beautiful blade...
@MrRugercat4510 жыл бұрын
In all honesty, the steels like CPM-3V would be tough and maybe add a little edge-holding, but I am not sure it would be worth the huge price increase, I mean, are you going to USE this knife enough to get the benefits of the increased performance? The 1055 is so incredibly tough, it probably is close to CPM-3V in toughness, it might lose it's edge a little quicker, but it will sure sharpen quicker. It is also capable of getting up to around 58-60 Rockwell with it's carbon content. Actually after around 0.86% Carbon, steel stops gaining toughness, after this point (eutectoid point) it only adds wear-resistance and makes it more brittle, which is why I think a steel doesn't need more than 0.75% carbon, personally. It's one of those questions only you can answer-will you use it enough to justify the price increase? Don't fall into the "super steel marketing trap", everyone wants the the latest and greatest steel, but if you really broke it down to see what increase you are getting, I think a lot of people would be surprised at how little it really is. Of course the steel makers and knife companies don't want YOU and I to know that!
@MrRugercat4510 жыл бұрын
Stiletto's Edged Hunting, Fishing, Camping, Tactical, & EDC Tools & Weapons Page Hey, no problem, you should get your money's worth. I do believe CS IS working some 3V models in, I sure wouldn't mind that either!
@Kris_Stiletto10 жыл бұрын
MrRugercat45 I agree that CPM-3V is expensive. But, 1095HC and 1095CV or Carbon V are available in American Made Fixed Blades (Ka-Bar & O.K.C., for example) for similar prices as the "Indian Made 1095 C0ld Steel (CS) Frontier Bowie..." I guess that's my gripe... I expect CS to give me better bang for my buck... I bought a similar sized Ka-Bar Swabbie that was made in the USA, by Ka-Bar, out of 1095CV. And, I only paid $95.00 for it, brand new, on Amazon.com, shipped to my front door... If Ka-Bar can do it, CS should be able to beat Ka-Bar with a lower price for their 1055 Carbon Steel, East Indian Made Bowie. But, instead, it cost more... That's my gripe with the Frontier Bowie. But, I do like the looks and "Old West" style of it. But, for it's price, I expect better steel. Especially, if it's not "American Made..." This would have been an awesome "CS Camillus Carbon V, American Made Bowie..." But, it missed that "Time Period..." Don't get me wrong, I love "Big CS Bowies..." I just think this one is not one of CS's best Bowie "Deals..." In my opinion, it's "Over Priced" for what you get... Peace, Stiletto :)
@Kris_Stiletto10 жыл бұрын
MrRugercat45 I agree; I like it when CS gives you a lot for your hard earned $... :)
@awesomeone11069 жыл бұрын
Nice knife have you had a chance to put it to good use,or is it just for collection. It looks tough as the Old West.
@LOADEDF1ST10 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could do a quick video with the handle removed? I would like to see if it would be possible to make a custom handle. Thanks.
@MrRugercat4510 жыл бұрын
I did try to unscrew the handle and it seems to be loc-tited on, so I don't want to damage the screws by trying that. You can definitely make a custom grip for this knife, I have seen a friend's customized one. The tang is the same shape and length as the grip, just the width is about 1/4" narrower (like some kitchen knives) If you don't like the grip shape you can change the shape of the tang and enclose it in the handle,(do a hidden-tang grip) and shape the handle to your liking.
@LOADEDF1ST10 жыл бұрын
MrRugercat45 Thanks!
@StMooresFire9 жыл бұрын
Keep it up!
@discardedknight73087 жыл бұрын
Is it made of stainless steel?
@livewithnick8 жыл бұрын
Allergies and being " stopped up"(assume you meant constipated) must suck pretty bad. Great knife!
@waynestorey81747 жыл бұрын
It's called a false edge it not ment to be Sharpe only the blade. And also it's not a fighting knife!
@YawaraMarco7 жыл бұрын
steel is 1085 in 2016, 1095 in 2014, not 1055.
@MrRugercat457 жыл бұрын
no, it's made of 1055 carbon steel - much tougher and better.
@terrywillis1446 Жыл бұрын
The reason why you don't want to sharpen the top portion of the clip is it will reduce the strength of the point.
@coolplayznogame88558 жыл бұрын
It's a good looking knife but it's not perfect,it's mostly a weapon not a camp or survival tool,it's a collectable historic style knife aka Weapon.
@coolplayznogame88558 жыл бұрын
And the Sword is nice,I hope to get the companion sword of the1917 Bowie Knife from CS
@grimslayerbrittain4708 жыл бұрын
Never sharpen the clip of a BOWIE, EVER.
@Murtagh6537 жыл бұрын
why?
@grimslayerbrittain4707 жыл бұрын
Murtagh653 first-off, you don't need to. Unsharpened, the swedge will open-up an opponent. The swedge of the bowie, is designed to be fit in the palm of the throwing hand. A sharpened swedge will cut the thrower. .
@Murtagh6537 жыл бұрын
From what I understand, bowie knights aren't really meant to be thrown, most knives aren't. only specific types that are designed for the purpose are meant to be thrown, not only because they will fly better and have a much better chance of hitting the target, it can also break knives like the frontier bowie that are not designed for it. it is bad for the tang and the whole knife really
@grimslayerbrittain4707 жыл бұрын
Murtagh653 I blade-train almost everyday, you are aggriegiously mistaken. This year I'll finally be good enough to compete in tomahawk & knife competition at the IKTHOF. Combat, conventional, blade, handle, & quick-draw, (and that's just bowies). Your knowlege base is not broad enough to formulate an educated opinion. (just sayin') .
@grimslayerbrittain4707 жыл бұрын
Murtagh653 also, what your un-educated eye has dismissed, (as most do not)- this blade, *and sheath* are a team. Making this the *only* "quick-draw" bowie knife upon the face of the earth, (can impale, and launch an adversary as though hit with a shotgun). It truly is scary/fucking awesome to witness. .
@christhomas835 Жыл бұрын
Go for it catscratchfever i dont mind mine being less than the sharpest--its a bonebreaker