it reminds me of when Shane was exposed for getting that 12 year old to perform a lap dance for him and kept falling back on this "uwu I'm trash" thing to help him out.

Yes. As soon as she was trying to say she was just a "loser" and a "weird aunt". Like, losers don't have PR teams. Weird Aunts don't send their nephews lacy bras.

Pulling the ol' BoJack Horseman routine

This 💯💯💯

Exactly. She is 36 but her behaviour screams 16. She has been communicating with kids for so long that is seems like it somehow stunted her emotional growth. Her song is all about blaming others and never taking any accountability

This. An eye-opener, Anna - thank you.

Me neither but it’s really good to know

also keep in mind that adults can be groomed but not exactly in same way as children, more so as in gaining trust for letting their children be in their hands and diverting them from abusive behavior under the guise of it not being harmful basically. idk if that makes exact sense

colleen is queen

@@palestinabaddie queen of grooming.

Allegedly that copyright thing was not done by her or her team, according to her lawyers..

@@kittehgo Yeaa I heard about that and I can admit it’s possible someone is yet again abusing the copyright system on YT but I wouldn’t put it past Colleen. Also a thing to note is that after her team put out that statement, Ethan Klein revealed that his podcast episode on her is still being claimed. All in all sussy behavior, Colleen’s just gonna excuse her actions again by saying how much of a loser she is

@BuffAmogus Thankfully I have barely any clue about whom she is, I just came across the news on you tube via Philip Defranco. So for all i know you could be right, that she or someone on her team did the copyright.

@@BuffAmogusI heard that the claim against him has been removed. My guess is she got Kory or one of her underage, unpaid “interns” to do it for her.

Everyone shut up already

Yup. As back then, so it is now.

Unfortunately, i've known about Colleen for a long time. I've always hated her Miranda character, but i really like Rachel Ballinger and how she interacts with JoJo Siwa, so i've watched a decent number of Colleen's videos.

@@ireallyreallyhategoogle same, it's a bit sad that she took this route instead of... weirdly apologizing again? I still can't wrap my head, what can she do, she did apologized, she did stop doing all the grooming and stuffs, she stopped being a "bad" person and focuses on her vlog and her tour although as Miranda, she clearly did thinking about to stop doing Miranda at all because we all know all the joke the original youtuber make are all bad now. And I'm still thinking about Jenna, the point is different, but it feels like all of the young fans of the original youtuber, are now "coming out" of how shitty the joke that made them laugh and now in therapy wants to cancel them because the joke originates from them, as if the same joke weren't told by some of their own parents, by some people living in the same time as the original youtuber... and I love Anna, but man, is she even safe from any accusation too, does anybody? We don't really need to be an innocent being to judge others, but when would it be the time to reflect about our past mistakes and how to make an amend for it. I know if I'm in her shoes, I would never make a ukulele song, but she did apologized and try to be better, but if that is still not enough and that make my mind breaks, perhaps I should just be the villain everybody portrays me to be. It made one thing clear, I would never put myself my whole person in the internet, but rather make a mask so it's easier to discard. People beg content creator to be open, real, and vulnerable, and use those all as a tool to cancel them when they got big. What a shitshow, I miss Jenna

@@DumbestDumbFool What? TLDR Colleen is guilty of child abuse and needs to get punished for it, as in facing the so-called justice system.

Same, found out about her because of Trisha Paytas (who I also found out about against my will because of her relationship with Hila Klein's brother).

@@savadel1912 no, obviously I don't deny that what she's been doing is bad, but at the same time it is true (seemingly) that her grooming did not have a specific goal of sexually exploiting minors, nor that she is in fact a pedophile. You don't have to be one to treat children badly or to be inappropriate or to traumatise them. When every inappropriate interaction with minors is labeled as pedophilia it is easy for those who do not see anything wrong with that behaviour to dismiss the allegation all together. Not that we should ponder in our analysis to people with such views, but it does seem to be a generalisation that does not help eliviate their ignorance. And same goes for victims of such grooming - if you tell a fan of somebody like that, who are still under their spell, that they were groomed and that their idol is a pedophile - they will say no, they are not, they did non sexually assault me nor tried to, so what she says is true and it's all drama and false accusations. Not because it is so, but because they do not know better, and they are being told something that does not ring true to their experience.

child abusers are narcissistic and self absorbed, so none of this should come as a surprise

If someone bullied a person when they were kids, and then met that person later and was like "but does it matter - I just didn't know any better, haha, let's sing a song about it!". It would be 100% clear they were taking 0% accountability. It's the same thing here... except she's NOT a kid, and people in their 30's normally know damn well what they're doing!

Meanwhile a literal pedophile, James Charles, manages to get away because he just ignored the problem. I don’t know how his situation wasn’t as big as Colleen’s. I mean people still do call him out, but his impressional fans far outweighs the logical ones.

@@lollsazz "know damn well what they're doing" You're missing a "should" before that. You have to remember that common sense is a rare these days, and so is taking responsibility for anything.

But first, it needs the Aba & Preach second outlook. I like to have another different perspective, ya know

@@PsychoSpiral exactly what I’m thinking

Most interactions of Hollywood, politics, and corporate climbing is going to be grooming in some way. I look back at the 1900s in a different light.

I just said this to myself. Big yikes.

@@lynnrobi wait why?

Don't forget she's also on mainstream media

Ikr!!!!!

@@jman1234533 TRUE! OH MY GOD!!

If I were in her shoes I would have kept my mouth SHUT like her legal team advised... The internet is crazy, why would she want more heat on her when she has three young children? She could have apologized to Trisha privately for the whale joke though. Saying it was 'out of context' instead of just sorry is pathetic and the final nail in her coffin.

@@LittleXmissXgrim Full on Looney Tunes don't follow logic.

If there were lawsuits coming against her, it would have happened in 2020 when Adam went after her back then.

@@jbond4186 By all accounts, didn’t seem like people believed Adam. Colleen would not be able to sue Adam civilly, she’d clearly loose. Adam probably had no thoughts of sue Colleen. One of the things I’ve heard criminally is def sending nude pics to minors but that was this year.

colleen is queen

There's a term for the example you provided of a parent inappropriately venting to their children, it's "emotional parentification".

@@UnbrokenHope yes!! Thank you for bringing it up! I had experienced that myself growing up, and it's easy to forget the term. I worked diligently so that my kids didn't have to deal with me in that fashion. That is a term to definitely work on healing from-and one that's is part of my journey as well.

I only recently learned about parentification -- and I've been a psych nerd and med nerd for over 30 years, so I can only imagine that a lot of people out there aren't getting exposed to the concept and it isn't talked about enough! Learning about it absolutely CHANGED MY LIFE. I was already doing tons of great valuable self-work, but understanding my own parentification and its myriad impacts caused me to connect SOOOOOOO MANY DOTS about my mind/behavior that I'd never connected before. I really hope more people spread awareness of this topic, because many people who've been emotionally and/or instrumentally parentified would gain a ton of insight from it, and also loads of very well-meaning parents do it and have no idea that it's harmful and would stop if they knew more about it. (In my case a lot of it was out of legitimate survival necessity, and I have no resentment -- but we can still learn a lot from embracing that mistakes happen without necessarily blaming the person who did or is doing them, even if that person is ourselves. Hugs to anyone out there who's about to dive into this topic and see themselves in it, and also hugs to any parents out there who are about to google this and experience guilt. Everyone's doing the best we can at any given time with the information we have.)

@@ItsAsparageese absolutely all of this! And thank you for verifying how recent and challenging. It is to connect these dots. However, once they are connected, it absolutely shifts everything. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

​@@UnbrokenHopethat's not a real thing lol

I think it is and that it needs to change. Now

Oh my god, you are completely right. It’s the exact same vibe and you’ve made me have some weird revelations about how inappropriate some of my drama teachers were… why the hell did I know so much about their personal lives?

I had a music theatre teacher who gave a student a lap dance "as a joke". The student was 16 and the teacher 40-something.

@@quadling3521 I think its ok to get to know your students as long as you're doing it in a sort of mentor way. once it turns into you gossiping with them or venting to them about your personal life, its inappropriate. You should treat them more like a parent, not like a peer friend.

I'm so sad you're right. Fully found out after highschool that a fellow student had been 'in a relationship with' / *preyed on* by an employee in his 30s

I think women in a powerful influencing position need to be judged as a man would be because that is usually not the case usually

@@breastsleepingmuse9446 I’m not disagreeing, I’m just saying I think in this case it has more to do with celebrity than with gender. Even though society at large doesn’t seem to take accounts of female predators as seriously males, it does seem like in terms of criminal charges the amount of people convicted is pretty similar regardless of gender (which is to say, conviction is abysmally low no matter what).

Agree, this was beyond parasocial. All the victims have met Colleen in person.

Fair call. Perhaps "parasitic" would be better

That's messed up! And she was a therapist, the power dynamics in that profession is very damaging to the client. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

As a social worker who also might work with kids someday, this sounds very concerning. And also a reminder to always reflect on the relationships with my clients and why they are the way they are and if they are still healthy for the clients. Because when you work with humans there is always a tendency or wish to become friends but that just doesn't work in that setting. Any person who works with kids should have access to clinical supervision/counseling so they can reflect on their relationships and the necessary boundaries

That should have been investigated. Unless you are a social worker you don’t have excessive communication with clients

please report her to the licensing board so they can remove her license and stop her from practicing

You 100% need to report her.

it's a bop but the context makes me feel icky!

As a uke player myself, I’m mad that she took a fun and cheery instrument for her really messed up message

No kidding, it's no wonder why it's being memed on and getting so many parodies

The catchiness means we'll never forget her ickiness and she'll have to either regret writing it soon or regress into severe denial of reality. Toxic Gossip Train...

Thats why her response is a song, so she can manipulate children in to thinking all those things are not that bad, because" look! The song is so catchy and stuff" It's a manipulation. It's gross. She has a mental illness

Exactly! And especially the story about her dog....and her just laughing away at it...🤮🤮

The term "narcissist" is getting so overused these days that it's getting diluted to the point of meaninglessness. It's not okay to use diagnoses as adjectives. I propose we normalize using the suffix -oid (meaning "in the shape of") when we're trying to describe something in an adjectival way, so that we can use the most fitting-seeming words without actually overstepping into medical conjecture/armchair diagnosing. There are a LOT of possible clinical explanations for her behavior. Being a narcissist or having NPD are arguably among them, but it's not ANYONE'S place to declare that either diagnosis fits besides a clinician she consults with in-depth herself. But I think it's totally fine to describe her behavior as "narcissistoid". I just don't think it's okay to declare her a narcissist. Just like how it's not cool to say "Oh I'm like so OCD" as an adjective, it's also not cool to say "narcissist" or "NPD" as an adjective. These terms have specific concrete real meanings, and diluting those meanings is harmful to those who suffer with the disorders and those who are in turn harmed by those individuals.

@@ItsAsparageese I think "narcissistic" would suffice, and it is much easier to say. No need to reinvent the wheel.

​@@ItsAsparageesethis! using a diagnosis loosely in these kinds of situations online makes it so much harder for people who have the diagnosis or might need to be diagnosed to get actual help because of the extreme stigma around it. it is possible that she has some narcissistic traits or behaviors but the actual diagnosis is so much more complex. it's impossible and damaging to diagnose from afar

@@user-vn9sh6hv8r "Narcissistic" is just an adjectival form referring to specifically narcissists. If we're being vaguer/more approximate than that, we need a different term. There's a difference between saying someone "has the traits of a narcissist" (narcissistic) versus "has traits LIKE that of a narcissist" (narcissistoid). That's my stance anyway

To be fair, I do think there's a space for adult and minors (platonic obviously) relationships where they discuss that kind of stuff. Having an adult you trust and feel comfortable asking about stuff that's kinda taboo to talk about and often involve a lot of confusion and personal feeling, that can be invaluable. It's certainly healthier than just learning about it all from the internet. But the key is that it has to come from the minor, go at their own pace and only be what they're comfortable with. Which is very clearly not what Colleen did. It seems like she treated the kids as fellow adults, which is very much not right.

​@@lilowhitney8614It should only come from a trusted adult, with checks and balances. Such as a teacher, school advisor, counselor or safe family member. I would not have these kinds of conversations with my children's friends, even if they came to me. That would be beyond inappropriate. I would lead them to safe materials and/or spaces to learn about what they are curious about. It's not okay. Not even if the child 'asks' for it. And it I'd up to the adults around that child to protect them and not overstep boundries they might not understand.

Just teach your kids about internet safety and that if they see something sketchy to tell you. I'm amazed that none of these kids went and told their parents when they saw the first inappropriate thing in the chat. There's no way that all of them were so in awe that they just glossed over it for years.

@@jbond4186 as a grooming survivor myself, that is a thought that pops up a lot and we use when feeling guilty. When children get groomed, they usually do not have good relationships with other people, which is why they stay and get stuck. You saying this is literally shifting the blame on the children, when the adult in the situation should have not have acted like that in the first place. So please do not say something like that, because it supports the abuser whether you meant it that way or not; additionally it could also hurt someone who recently just got out of grooming. Thank you.

@@gildedd I'm not blaming the kids, I'm blaming their parents for not teaching them to be safe. And I'm not saying this makes Colleen completely innocent (if the allegations are even 100% true). If even one of these kids had told their parents and done something about it we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. I wasn't groomed, but I was SA'd in the 7th grade. Not one adult who saw it or knew about it did anything. 100% those adults are to blame for letting it go on as long as it did, not me and not the kid doing it to me.

Ever since 2020 lmfaoooooo how about since the dawn of time

I'm personally a fan of the "it all started with Harambe" angle on our descent into a whack timeline (largely in a tongue-in-cheek way of course). Plenty was wrong since long before that, obviously, but that approximate time period felt like a major point of escalation into ... this.

The world (for humans) is more likely to end than the insanity.

I'd disagree as authorities really do not take it seriously whether it be male or female perpetrators (ex. Drake, Woody Allen, Polanski, James Charles, countless other male celebrities with intact reputations and careers)

​@@ImpuritiesShown I don't think what you're saying invalidates my point. Authorities should do a better job either way. The issue extends beyond the authorities though. I've been part of a community where the general reaction to an inappropriate student-teacher relationship was to call the underage male student (a 14 year old boy), a "stud" because "he had the game to bang his teacher." My experience has been that there are a significant amount of people who do not think males can be sexually exploited or assaulted. This mentality is passed down to underage males who don't even know they're victims.