OMG SAME

Me too 😂

Where's Da Tea I thought it said coming out as a mormon parent

Same

Me too hey😂😂😂😂😂😂

Castle Crasher in gen z, apparently about 52% identify as not being exclusively heterosexual sooo almost definitely:)

@@meyu1468 Hmm well those people are below the age of 22 so a lot of them could be saying that because they are bicurious, but if that is actually true that's awesome!

I wince when I read such a finite dichotomy ignoring the loving purpose of life, challenges, choices, I also wish all could love others for who they are. It's not exclusive.

Life is also long and ever changing. I've seen too many people make critical decisions too early in life.

Castle Crasher I’ve heard it’s 1 out of 10 here in America (10%) but maybe we are just more gay than the UK? Lol

Mormons usually have money lol

Drew Spurgeon not the Mormon’s I’ve met it’s a religion it’s not a guaranteed bank account lol

@@andrewspurgeon2000 well growing up mormon, I would like to know where my money is? or was? Or someone can tell me why we lived off the church store house or why we had to have help with bills, or why our electricity was out occasionally same with our water.. I am inactive but I am still technically a mormon. So where is my money? Don't just assume things It's not gonna get you very far in life.

stay connected...

Jaw Travel ?

helookalikaman79 yeah I haven’t one tat far bro the video but this guy radiates sweetness and kindness and caringness but with a hint of mournfulness which is completely understandable

His eyes are gorgeous, such a deep, beautiful blue.

Ben Shaw Yep, he’s very cute, but also very intelligent. I can imagine the church has a huge impact on/power over people and that it took this dude years and years to find himself, but he finally did and he took the right decision to start dating guys. It must have been a tremendous relief for him to escape from the dominance of the church.

@alex alamangos Au contraire! It's wonderful.

Just one kid...ha ha

I wish you could talk to my mom. My parents thought I was,murdered 3 years ago and had a celebration and never verified to see if the lie my sister told them that I was,killed was true. My parents told me to leave. Now since I have a little money they wanted back into my life. My parents told me the only reason they had me was so that they would have someone to take care of them when they got old. But my parents would destroy any relationship so I would just have them.

@@alisarsour8552 It kills me to hear these stories. I know they are your parents and you love them. But you have to take care of yourself love yourself more. Your parents have each other, it's your turn to find your better half. Best of luck!!

@@freddhernanadez2230 pretty sure not loving thy neighbor is also an abominable sin *thonk*

@@Wiijimmy no it's not.

As a pansexual ped0romantic and father of a gay child I agree!! 🌈💙

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Sorry dear Ali, that your family were so cruel and heartless towards you. Hope you have a few good friends. Lots of love and good wishes.

That is so terrible, I'm sorry.

I'm so sorry, Ali; I wish I could give you a hug.

So perhaps you should try to file some restraining orders and other types of things to legally protect yourself from their evil.

Willow Winkle same for Jehovah’s witnesses.... I was

I don't think that is necessarily true. Difficult? Sure! Congratulations on your integrity and honesty. You are beautiful, physically AND MORALLY!

@@jhctxcla I don't know about Jehovah's Witnesses, but for LDS, it's absolutely true. Same with Catholic Church (both of which i have family experience with) if you're out of the closet you're expected to be either celibate, or to marry someone of a different orientation that you're not attracted to.

Does anyone think the channel Ellie and Jared follows this? Sorry, I know this question is extremely inappropriate, but I’ve been curious on other people’s thoughts for too long. The guy says all his celeb crushes are men.

I just want you to know that marrying the opposite sex is not required or pressured to at all.

Coral Taylor 😭♥️

Joseph Garner ❤️😘

I have a handsome sweet gay son! ❤️😍

You are a delightful person...your story is relatable outside of the mormon culture...stay strong ....realize continuing with the religious relationships as they are...take the good in yourself and write your own story...don't just take it as gospel words from a nother human... You will go far if you remain true but actually think

I hope I can find someone soon. I feel so desperately lonely some days. I'm in my early 30's and have yet to ever experience a successful long term romantic relationship. And as for short term intimate and sexual experiences I've never experienced something fulfilling/enriching yet (and i don't have many experiences to count, it's been years since I've even been on a date) My heart is desperate for that connection and sense of emotional safety and physical closeness. I've yearned for this ever since I was 13 years old. I think I might end up getting really lucky though in terms of love, so I have hope. And I'm trying dating apps again.

It's not a religious issue. Non-Biblical based Asian societies are more anti-LGBT than traditionally Christian nations are. Taiwan is the only Asian country to date that has fully legalized gay marriage, and that was in May this year. They are also the only country in Asia besides Israel that have legalized gay adoption. Most people have a natural, biologically ingrained repulsion to homosexuality and this is universal across the globe. Given that traditionally Christian nations are the only ones heavily promoting LGBTQRSJWism right now, the 'cus religion' narrative does not hold water.

Euphoric Atheist ”asian” ?. Its literally only the west that in some way accept homosexuality. Lets not even talk about Africa.

Aleeki N. So? Its not because of religion. Stables economies allows society to develop. When u dont have food or clean water LGBT rights get “irrelevant” (in a not-offensive way obviously) so plz dont star with “religion is acceptance” or any of that shit because its not.

Euphoric Atheist omg what the fuck? “Natural, biologically ingrained repulsion to homosexuality” S U R E

Honestly this isn't really a religious issue. Most of my family members are Christian and 20 percent of them are bisexual, including myself. Everyone around me happily accepted every LGBT+ person. Don't get me wrong we aren't that connected to each other but it is mostly because of their bad decisions (single mother, alcohol addiction, etc.) and it isn't because their sexuality or gender.

dear michaelmouse you are number one your voice is why our community gets stronger. When we talk to each other we know we are not the only gay person in the world. If the haters are tiring to get in your way just walk around them your true self is your life.

it's 'church-speak'. They also like to say why did you "choose" this. DISCOVERY rather than choice.

*Kardashians have a lifestyle* 😂😂😂

I ABSOLUTELY agree. Always thought that. It implies that it’s a choice!

Exactly. When do straights ever call their orientation, "the heterosexual lifestyle?"

It is awful and definitely not okay, but it is part of the propaganda of the Mormon church. It is how people are trained to react.

@Mel J- -Wrong.

I'm a member of the the church. Nobody puts the church ahead of loving your own family it's all in how you react and how those people chose to react I'm a member of the church and I don't support you being gay but I'm not going to be cruel and mean to you and make fun of you and try to change you I'm going to be nice just like I am to every single other person on this Earth. Just because you don't agree with how someone decides to live their life and who they choose to love doesn't mean that you can be cruel and mean to someone. I've been bullied my whole life I'm not going to bully someone else because of what they believe in.

@Mel J - If you want evidence, research it yourself.

No one is born gay, because no one is born with sin. Unless you can show me a specific gene that makes you want to defy your biological urge to reproduce with the opposite sex, You arent going to change my mind or anyone else in the church’s mind.

Agreed

Luna Crazy made my day thank you:)

Eyes and mind are pretty ;-)

I totally agree with you. I got hypnotized by his eyes.

Filipe Fialho Alves I got hypnotized by... everything

Same....

Im over here getting old and cant even find one boyfriend lol

He is very cute, that is why.

i mean look at his face

Same tho

Paul ferzoco..... 'be kind and forgiving to everyone', as the Mormon Church and any other religious faith has shown since time immemorial to gay people. What's the matter with you?

Im wanting to tell my mormon parents but i also tried telling my dad that i was non binary and he just quoted scriptures to me and it really hurt me. I also havent been able to feel like telling them much after this especially when i know they were worried but when my mom found out i self harmed she made me feel super uncomfortable by asking me to take off my jacket when a freind was over.

Especially when i had been four months clean by then.

@@rebelmcabee4109 that kinda sounds real bad and horrible that your mother made you feel like that. I'd suggest that you take your time and go slow. Until you've found your ground. Also when you've moved out as you will feel less stress if it doesn't go to plan... Just remember family isn't defined by blood, but by the love that people have for you and accepting you for who you are. People change with time tho, take it slow.

Thank you i will remember that.

Drew Spurgeon I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who felt that pain

Where did he say his family was against him? I heard the opposite.

His family is not against him he never said that

Alysa Huber he didn’t have to say it, but it was obvious his parents were pushing him to date girls instead of boys, even after he told them he was gay.. They wanted “what was best for him”, as in, they wanted him to conform anyway.

No... It is possible to have differing opinions and not be against said person. People can do hard things in the name of what they think is best. Parents do it a lot. I'm sure they had his best intentions at heart.

So happy for you x

If everything is so Gucci and Dolce Gabbana, perhaps you and your boyfriend could adopt me 😭💯 because I won't have a family if I came out for sure!

That sounds a lot like what I’m going through, my family is really religious. My grandparents on my dad’s side and all my family on my mom’s side go to church. I realized that I was bi and ace a while ago and am too scared to tell them because I’m scared they’re going to disown me. I’m getting comfortable being who am but feel like I have to mask my sexuality when I’m with my family I just wish that the church would be more accepting.

K Midnitee a lot of Mormons believe birth control is a rebellion against god

Emma_N condoms too?

Emma_N Mormon here, Joseph is a friend of mine. That’s not true at all. I’ve never met a member of the church that believes that.

Same reason as Catholics, probably

K Midnitee not 100% sure but i remember hearing from one of my close mormon friends that many kids are seen as a very positive thing in the church and basically will bring better things for your family and that children are gods gift i suppose. something to do with many kids = happy life

🙏🙏🙏

@@josephgarner94 Thank you Joseph for sharing your amazing story I really appreciate it. As a heterosexual young man myself born in 1998 from Lakemba, New South Wales, Australia with healthy positive masculinity I absolutely have no problem if boys and men around the world want to show their emotions because we are human beings with emotional feelings. Being bisexual and being homosexual does not make you less of a man & there are bisexual plus homosexual teenage boys & men who are masculine around the world. We males really need to show empathy for boys and men & listen to how they feel inside instead of mocking them & rejecting them by claiming that they are not manly or masculine enough because that is called bullying & it is a dangerous game. What is a man? He is a human male adult enough said men do not have to prove their manhood because that is a huge lie made up by old school gender activist bigots. As a mature young man myself plus other men around the world we do not have to prove our masculinity because that is just machismo not masculinity, so to all my fellow brothers out there just be a compassionate mature gentleman that is it end of story.

I agree it is a huge accomplishment

Lots of mormon men are but in reality lot of those mens' mothers are ones that should have that title.

alacruz you can see the immense sadness in his eyes

Thank you 💕💕💕

try coming out in 1957,,( i didn't ) because i would have been killed right away..gay guys now have it much easier but back then that was not the case. being called names all your life hurts,,you say repair it, but that can't happen. jimmy

Gary Lee Gay relationships aren’t only about sex. It’s about mutual love And understanding for one another. What you’re saying is hugely disrespectful

@Gary Lee Actually most of us gay guys are just into sweet romance. It's much more pure and special than hetero relationships.

@Gary Lee ur silly, we flaunt it done much because gays have literally been oppressed and can only really now be in the public eye

I've known guys whos fathers were gay as well. They say its a gene inherited from the mother that causes one to be gay but I have my doubts.

That sounds unhealthy. o_o

@@ridiculouscuteness3 How exactly?... I mean... She was tired.... And she already knows... I'm sure they discussed it further in the morning😅

Gary Lee rather rude. This vid isn’t rlly for homophobic people so leave.

Gary Lee I love how you just got so offended that you felt the need to reply 3 times. Like that’s a lotta effort man.

@Gary Lee just drop it man, ur not helping here. look for the beauty in others instead

Gary Lee lmaoo ok bud

Gary Lee I’m not homophobic but I’m gay and sometimes I rlly wish that meant I didn’t have to be in the lgbt community. Yes I’m attracted to men. No I don’t like the lgbt community because it’s full of a lot of drama.

Fixing typos and grammatical errors, Unfortunately this isn't the sadist Mormon "coming out" I've heard about. This amazingly courageous and strong boy made it. Many don't! It's the 21st century and the Mormon church has just recently decided that "gay was the way you were born," but they try to emotionally blackmail the gay kids into NOT ACTING ON IT. Gay Mormon kids are told that life on Earth isn't that important, and when you die, you won't be reunited with your family in the afterlife! Basically what they are telling you is that you are useless, because you're not going to marry a girl and produce 4 or 8 or 10 kids to add to the population of the church. One ex-Mormon boy I met was told to leave home and town, because it was emotionally to difficult to get to know him now, and they would miss him too much in the afterlife. He lucked out. The cop who was going to arrest him, took him to his Pastor's house, not jail. Another boy's father had a long distance trucker take his son 500 miles away, well across the state line and leave him on the highway. He was 15. He left home without a dime. No clothes. No ID. He lucked out. The trucker had a gay brother and felt sorry for the boy, so he brought him to his mother's home. They took care of him, loved him, and he's been their son ever since. If there is a god, I'm sure he's not Mormon. Both boys would end up as students at the college where I teach. They are the lucky "throwaway kids." Lots of them wind up as male prostitutes, drug addicts, or commit suicide because of family rejection, shame, guilt, and church causing depression. You are not alone. Google the nearest Gay Youth Hotline or center. YOU ARE NOT ALONE. P.S. Highly doubt this is all true, you claim to be a college professor yet cannot even use commas properly. The end is one of few redeeming qualities that even makes this worthwhile in the slightest. You do you. Edit: capitalization

The saddest stories are actually the ones that end too early. Whenever the Mormon church comes out with some new anti-LGBTQ "REVELATION" the number of teen suicides go up. Every...single...time. Love should never be conditional. I grew up like that and it's like an arrow to your heart. I got out of Utah and realized people were a lot more accepting than I thought possible, even in the 90s. If you are hurting look for your own family, your community, it makes all the difference. Whether it's the youth drop in center or the Drama Club (mine back then) in your school, there are safe accepting spaces for young queer people. In Mormonland you just have to look a little harder.

@@diabolicalandi Hi Andrea, thanks for your responce. We have a lot to talk about and if it's ok, i'll send you a long responce (rant) later. Luckly, i was raised christian (not mormon or evangelical) ! Church and related youth activities, was a place parents sent (dumped) their kids to get them out of the house. Free babysitting. haha It wasn't a place to fill your heart and mind, with fear and hate. I'll get back to you later, when i have more time. Thanks again for your reply

@@diabolicalandi I still live in Utah and there are so many people who are accepting, maybe not so much within the older generations but the younger ones have clearly gotten so much better

The devil's playground? Lily Dale and the spirtualists there? No, you are so wrong if you say that. The devil's playground is in my underpants! I am proud and strong.

Mel J do you think IVF and surrogacy in straight couples is disgusting as well?? Since it’s unnatural??

@Mel J is that based on facts and research or your own anecdotal view

Mel J soooo adoption is unnatural to you??? lmaooooo

So SO true

Celeste R thank you:) and THANK YOU for supporting your best friend while he navigates life ♥️

Ainsley Rose Hey I’m kinda in the same situation with you except I’m a 14 year old boy and not a Mormon but a Catholic. I’m confused on my sexuality too. I recently noticed over the past two years. I recall when I was younger feelings of being gay, but just now realizing it. I tried to deny it for so long. Right now I’m stuck in the middle of Bi, or gay. I have no intentions of coming out anytime soon, especially since I need to know who I am first. It’s just hard you know. I think my family would accept me, we are catholic but not the really religious family. I believe in God and pray and wanna go to church more. It hurts me when I see all these posts from Religious people saying being gay is a “lifestyle” or a “choice” when if it was I would just want to be straight point blank period! And also, I know God loves us all, and put us on thus earth who we are for a reason. But yeah I just thought I could tell you since A) it’s KZfaq and B) You’re a stranger 😂 I don’t even know if I can tell my best friend yet. I’m too afraid, I feel like I am gay but I wanna deny it. Anyways, thank you for reading my ted talk 😂 😊

I am almost in exactly the same situation. Thank you so much for talking about your struggles. I started looking at girls a little differently a while back and just trying to push it down, and ignore it. Eventually general conference came around and I finnaly realized that I am bi. I know for a fact that I'm not looking to get busy with anyone and I want to be respectful of the lord and the cards I've been dealt. I haven't talked to my parents yet and am still sorting out how to do it. I hope evrething goes well. Best of luck! ❤

Marrying a girl would have been a terrible thing,,terrible. why hurt them. jimmy

DARRYL B ♥️

Crazy Horse Trading ♥️♥️♥️

If you believe God made us all, then ?????

As long as your mom is cool with you the rest will come too

Felipe Gonzalez ♥️

John Moon ♥️♥️♥️

Thank you:)

J Florez 🖤🖤🖤

Laykin Renee thank you:)

Joseph, I'd like for either one of us to reach out to one another on Instagram or another form of social media. You an find me on Insta: @apinchofspence The picture that I have of myself here on KZfaq is the same that I have on Instagram. 👍

my family isn’t perfect but glad I could trust them growing up to come out to. lots of friends I’ve had weren’t as lucky .

TheDemonShipper there was a time not too long ago that Was sure I was never going to tell anyone. No pressure either way though, you’ve got to do it in you own time and I’m you’re own way, if you end up doing it at all!

@Gary Lee Maybe you haven't been in the same shoes as others. Sometimes people choose suicide instead of coming out.

@Gary Lee probably because people who DARE to be different are treated like garbage and yes gay people are courageous for coming out. There are people like him being killed in the streets because they don't conform with societal norms. I don't know you but maybe you should gain some perspective before you go on the Internet and blast your ignorant opinion. I dunno seems like a good idea🤗🤗🤗

@Gary Lee Please elaborate on how gays have more rights. About the activists you clearly disagree with, their actions don't mean you can generalize an entire group of people and demonize everyone who is gay because of the activists who "turned the community into a freak show".

@Gary Lee I don't understand why we are all professional victims simply because we talk about our experiences. Please elaborate.

@Gary Lee I know what your talking about but this goes back to my argument where I explained that the generalization of gays is prejudice and in an argument its not good to take a complicated topic and put a vague title on it. I say this because you say that gays are" a protected class" in that sense yes western gays in 1st world countries have it better than the rest of the world and to some VERY small extent the minority card has been used to wrongly cause harm where it shouldn't have been. But to say that gays are a protected class would be inaccurate considered the recorded violence towards the LGBTQ+ community not only in the U.S but in the rest of the world.

Jonbudy, sweet message, man. My hunch is that Joseph, who is incredibly nice himself, will be glad to have received it. I think you have been quite brave and positive and now deserve a full measure of happiness of your own.

Salt Lake is pretty liberal though, not very Mormon compared to the smaller cities and towns in utah

@Gary Lee Really, when did you decide to be gay, straight, bi or what have you? I ask because I decided to be straight all throughout my adolescence until I realized that my decision had no effect.

@Gary Lee Beyond repeating right wing talking points, "professional victims" and misusing the word "sycophants" (look it up) you might actually have answered my question. But you don't have an answer to it. So, you do the right wing thing and change the subject. All of which doesn't explain why you are watching guys' coming out videos, does it?

@Gary Lee calm down. Idk what a sychophant is but I rlly think both of you should cool it with the right wing and gay hero nonsense. Firstly, it's fine that you want to comment your disagreement, but it's not very polite at all to spread hatred even if it's with good intent. Secondly we shouldn't attack each others opinions like they don't matter. Don't make baseless assumptions about people you don't know. I guess what I'm trying to say is. Calm down.

@Gary Lee personally I don't think you should assume people lie when you say they are "professional victims". Find some empathy and you might learn that a lot of these people are truly hurt and healing and on their own personal journey. You could try to see other people's viewpoints before you assume them for your own

@Gary Lee "there is no gay gene so it is a life style" Call it a life style of you want to, but there are many things about a person that don't change, yet aren't decided by genes. Like your personality, mental health etc. People just don't like it being called a life style because in that way your comparing it to a choice they made which clearly they didn't.

I agree,Thomas, very nicely said. Tragically, regarding suicide statistics they are as high as ever and go up year on year,particularly in UK & Europe.Many times,particularly in the USA the suicide statistics are manipulated, so the families don't have to accept they drove their children to death! I have been fighting for LGBT rights since mid 70s and though we've been given back the equality, each of us are born with,in certain countries; having had them stripped from us once we tell the truth about who we are!! In many more we're seeing fundamentalism of all flavours pushing to negate those hard won rights . In 70+ countries, around the world, we are criminalised or killed for being who we are. Hate crimes against LGBT people have gone up greatly, even in supposedly "civilised" countries like USA & UK! If you're reading this comment & are in a country where you're lucky enough to have a vote, please use it! If a country can decide that women don't have FULL AUTONOMY over their bodies,it won't be long before you see the rights of the LGBT community being eroded & recinded slowly or just taken away with one signature, as happened recently in America where Trans people have lost their rights in the US military for reasons that when looked at properly aren't even true. It's just pressure from the Hardliners, which in the US are the fundamentalist Christians. Joseph's brave story is one of the many that have a happy ending. The sad reality is the ones who weren't able to deal with the hate and bullying, aren't here to tell their stories. One of the reasons you don't see many older Gay men,making use of the relatively new political platform for Gay/LGBT friendly politicians is that thanks to the human rights abuses perpetrated by Ronald Reagan & his Republican agenda - nearly 700,000 - people have died of HIV in America(also remember when it was first diagnosed he and members of his government with support across the whole country,not only called it a "Gay Plague - that we deserved - but,also wished to put ALL Gay men in America into camps!) At this very moment that same Republican mentality is forcing the hand of law makers in the USA. For you brave younger generation Gay men and ALL the younger LGBT community, please don't take the rights you have for granted, the older men who should now be high up in Government died before they were 30. And remember, that though HIV is now treatable, if a Government decides to make that treatment expensive .....,well you can see how that goes? ! I'm sorry I don't mean to lecture or detract from Joseph's story ,but, all of us WORLDWIDE need to keep educated and fight on till we reach the point where heterosexual parents who produce LGBT children,will be the ones society AND THE LAW CONDEMNS if they treat them unkindly or refuse to accept them as 100% equal. A child is born a blank slate, when it comes to religious beliefs & is brought up according to the family it is born into,if we - LGBT children/young adults - are asked to respect their/our parents religious beliefs,they need to respect the scientific facts of biology!? Wishing you & yours the VERY best from London 👋🌟✌

That is the Mormon brainwashing. Trust me I know.

Love knows NO bounds 🌈💙 ❤️

@Mel J lust is found in people with any attraction, not just homosexuality. Physical attraction is an important aspect of a relationship no matter the genders