Common Misconceptions When Building Football Manager Tactics

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Here is a list of common issues when building tactics. WHICH ONES CAN YOU RELATE WITH?These misconceptions were originally encountered by pheelf while trying to learn how to improve his understanding of the tactical side of the game..
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@JaCKDaNiiELsLP
@JaCKDaNiiELsLP 4 жыл бұрын
wait, so you are telling me there is more than just downloading a tactic and press demand more and get creative during the match?
@Permuh
@Permuh 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO that's exactly what I did after seeing a couple "best tactic ever" videos. Worked well enough to get me to PL, but now I'm getting smashed pretty much every match - definitely getting relegated. Should've stayed in the championship a couple of seasons, but that PL cash inflow is too good to say no to 😏
@JaCKDaNiiELsLP
@JaCKDaNiiELsLP 4 жыл бұрын
@@Permuh looking for a tactic online is actually a really good idea. even with greater knowledge about the game. you may see something you never would have thought about. for me it was the inverted wingback (especially on attack). it's so great to see your fullback being heavily involved in the attack. if you have a dani alves type of defender or a winger with decent defensive stats go for it. with the addition of overlapping on the right he cuts later into the middle and just works wonders with an inverted winger. one of them is cutting inside and the other one is providing width. with playing one twos this can be deadly. i just love it. i have a possession based tactic with very short passing. just this tactic with derby county and jayden bogle is a really good fit on that level, but i found an incredible brazilian rightback in my dortmund save. really the next dani alves with amazing crossing, which isn't quite common with regens. they usually tend to have bad crossing stats. don't know why. or i just got really unlucky in fm20 so far. he had like 190pa and 180ca. checked it after i decided to start a new save
@dariuspalmer2829
@dariuspalmer2829 4 жыл бұрын
@@Permuh There is nothing wrong in downloading tactics but you have to understand how it works. You can't expect every opposition to play the same way that's why it it is useless to use other's tactics when you don't understand it.
@topoisomerace
@topoisomerace 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest misconception is that tactics determine most outcomes. Often you will win or lose due to talent, luck, player inconsistency, form, etc., and not because of any tactical decisions.
@dariuspalmer2829
@dariuspalmer2829 4 жыл бұрын
I actually disagree games are won or lost by tactics and tactical decisions by playing inconsistent players that is down to your poor decisions , failing to check where your attacks breakdown is another poor tactical decision. Yes you do get the odd lucky goal but it is up to make the changes in order to win the game.
@tumppuman
@tumppuman 4 жыл бұрын
#10: This one you should remember yourself when streaming! You constantly say you're dominating based only on the number shots. ;)
@Malaskeeper
@Malaskeeper 4 жыл бұрын
A very good video, i Will surely share it
@dundeedolphin
@dundeedolphin 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video.
@PESExpert
@PESExpert 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@sameepshah3835
@sameepshah3835 4 жыл бұрын
Loved it..
@gm2407
@gm2407 3 жыл бұрын
i find that my tactics usually work and it is only a tweek of instructions and a couple of substitutions that turn the game. Your oponent has strengths and weaknesses you can adapt to with instructions rather than formation changes.
@aydincustovic6972
@aydincustovic6972 4 жыл бұрын
I watched the training video you uploaded a few days ago, does it work for lower league teams?
@Smith89123
@Smith89123 4 жыл бұрын
The team instructions one is a massive debate. Most op tactics that you can download have tons of instructions. But you then get the more “snobby” fm players who think you only need 4 or 5 instructions and tweak from there.
@bigmaguire9714
@bigmaguire9714 4 жыл бұрын
I always use lots of instructions for my players and team as I want them to do exactly what I say. Otherwise I don't feel comfortable
@Smith89123
@Smith89123 4 жыл бұрын
Eoin 97 best way in my opinion, who’s to say too many is wrong if you’re winning and enjoying it
@doctort434
@doctort434 4 жыл бұрын
I don't agree too many team instruc make your team predictable and leaves little room for tweaking when things go wrong
@utsavbasu1048
@utsavbasu1048 3 жыл бұрын
Just don't watch anything fkcing do what u want. It's what I learned . Trial and error, u may lose get sacked but who cares
@MateGamer1994
@MateGamer1994 4 жыл бұрын
Ok now some livestream would be good 😄
@footballmanagerraw
@footballmanagerraw 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jamie @ FM Scout I have been playing football manager for years, always trying to create my own master peices of tactics but always scratching my head at what buttons to press ect ect. Within this video you have souly given me the eureka moment where it's all just clicked I started a fresh save pre season and created a possession cautious tactic, a balanced hybrid, and a direct attacking for the different scenarios for the season. I've never seen such beautiful football Possession 6-0 win 1at game Direct attacking 10-0 1st game Balanced 13-0 Instructions used did not in the slightest conflict each other. In fact the balanced tactic had only stay on feet, regroup and counter You sir have lit my fm world. I always do well but now I can do even better
@fmscout
@fmscout 4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing to hear, really glad you enjoyed the video! We have a discord channel with a really nice FM community so if you've got any questions or want to get involved, just use this link to join. discord.gg/j9ugdzX
@Masked_Official
@Masked_Official 4 жыл бұрын
"As you can see here, we have a 4-4-2" - and it's a 4-2-3-1 lol
@edwardmm737
@edwardmm737 4 жыл бұрын
It can be seen as a 442
@Masked_Official
@Masked_Official 4 жыл бұрын
@@edwardmm737 Are you blind, it's clearly a 3-4-1-1-1 (im kidding don't attack me online).
@thiagogfalcao
@thiagogfalcao 4 жыл бұрын
Weirdly enough, some FM sites will consider this a 4-2-4. I personally think the current FM formation system complicates the use of the most common formation currently. There are 5 workable 4-2-3-1s at FM now.
@Masked_Official
@Masked_Official 4 жыл бұрын
@David Clinging It's a 4-5-1 at best if we are being vague. :P
@thiagogfalcao
@thiagogfalcao 4 жыл бұрын
David Clinging oh yes, of course. I agree.
@jovicaduro7204
@jovicaduro7204 2 жыл бұрын
1) first misteak..mentaly..if you play e.g with balance but your team dont have ball you change in cautions..now playing carefull
@javierramirez1569
@javierramirez1569 4 жыл бұрын
The "misconceptions" are actually a way of saying: "SI isn't properly explaining their tactical options" - that's when you know you have to make a video explaining that certain options "don't quite work the way they're described".
@juniorbarra8296
@juniorbarra8296 4 жыл бұрын
That was GOLD 🤣 Lazy and Lingard go together like a charm! 🤣🔥
@aquilotti1987
@aquilotti1987 4 жыл бұрын
How is lingard lazy with a 17 work rate?
@fmscout
@fmscout 4 жыл бұрын
I aint a fan of Lingard. xD We have a discord channel with a really nice FM community so if you've got any questions or want to get involved, just use this link to join. discord.gg/j9ugdzX
@RedM1ST
@RedM1ST 4 жыл бұрын
Did I really just watch a video that was completely ripped off from an article on passion4fm and passed off as your own work? Really?
@alistairwilliams9074
@alistairwilliams9074 4 жыл бұрын
Just found the article. Thank you for this information.
@superzcz
@superzcz 4 жыл бұрын
If you have Jose Mourinho as your assistant, then you can trust him for sure.
@panic_seller
@panic_seller 4 жыл бұрын
Biggest Misconception HAS to be the Attributes. Dribbling Attribute of 1 doesn't mean he's a bad dribbler. If his Concentration is 18 he has all the right to suddenly become MESSI and score the teams first shot on target at the 90th minute And Ruin everyone's day including boo your Wingers who have 20 in Dribbling, Flair, Agility, Finishing, Technique, and have been trying to do that whole game but could only hit the corner flag.
@hogopipo
@hogopipo 4 жыл бұрын
Is it okay if I want to change the mentality during the game? Usually my team breaks down when I do this, but then there are some matches in FM where like, you're supposed to LOSE, while being unbeaten in all last 26 games of your season and lose to a team with woeful form.
@thiagogfalcao
@thiagogfalcao 4 жыл бұрын
I think so. Actually, I usually do it.
@igoroliveira1449
@igoroliveira1449 4 жыл бұрын
Not only want, but you should change your mentality when things aren't going your way, most of the time I use balanced/positive mentalities and you would be surprised by the amounts of times I changed to Very Attacking in the last 15 minuts of the game to rescue a draw or even win the game, of course you need to use the correct Team Instructions, when you find youself in this losing scenario, consider going a bit wider, asking to press higher, playing in a higher tempo, asking to be slighty or purely more direct in the style of passing, deselecting play out defense, and some others like hit early crosses or shoot on sight, etc, it might help. Bare in mind that I am not saying that you should use all of this Team Instructions at once as sort of a combination, depending of circumstances, just a little adjusting here and there and you probably will overturn the situation in your favor. Hope I could help, and if I said something wrong, everyone is free to alert me on my mistakes and correct me.
@thiagogfalcao
@thiagogfalcao 4 жыл бұрын
Igor Oliveira I completely agree and do pretty much the same. Mandou bem!
@igoroliveira1449
@igoroliveira1449 4 жыл бұрын
@@thiagogfalcao Valeu amigo, bom FM para você!
@Jay-hh9wn
@Jay-hh9wn 4 жыл бұрын
One of my younger players as developed the fears big matches trait, is there a way to get rid of this?
@Prof.Mokster57
@Prof.Mokster57 4 жыл бұрын
play him more in big matches and if he is doing very poorly against big teams, then basically just sell him.
@Jay-hh9wn
@Jay-hh9wn 4 жыл бұрын
@@Prof.Mokster57 ok thx
@damianhills1533
@damianhills1533 4 жыл бұрын
I have always let my assistant do the opp instructions and done me no harm so I have to disagree with that bit. I do agree however with the bit about players that enjoy/relish big matches. I always look to buy players with that in a scout report. I also look for whether they are susceptible to injuries.
@dariuspalmer2829
@dariuspalmer2829 4 жыл бұрын
You must have a good assistant lool. Usually the ones with 12+ tactical knowledge tend to set up opposition instructions better.
@yorkie6013
@yorkie6013 4 жыл бұрын
#3 is not 100% true because ive yet to select low crosses and get players to actually follow that instruction, and thats using numerous different tactics.
@bashir5668
@bashir5668 4 жыл бұрын
what makes a tactic attacking, i struugle with it,
@jovicaduro7204
@jovicaduro7204 2 жыл бұрын
2) dont turn TI let go empity..why?in posseion tell teams early crossing but opponett have very good head and jumping..it is misteake..
@jhbBouwmeester
@jhbBouwmeester 3 жыл бұрын
what do you guys with your staff advice?
@foleylad54
@foleylad54 4 жыл бұрын
Do you guys watch the matches or use key/extended highlights or just commentary?
@yorkie6013
@yorkie6013 4 жыл бұрын
always 3D full match. Only problem with doing this is that you easily see just how broken the ME is.
@Draven.G
@Draven.G 4 жыл бұрын
@@yorkie6013 ME?
@yorkie6013
@yorkie6013 4 жыл бұрын
@@Draven.G match engine
@Draven.G
@Draven.G 4 жыл бұрын
@@yorkie6013 ty
@smileplease7225
@smileplease7225 4 жыл бұрын
1. Not using a back 3. Back 4 in a league 1 side like Lincoln City then you have Macclesfield next the coffin dancers look at you funny and it's carnage
@davyprendergast82
@davyprendergast82 3 жыл бұрын
they need to make a basic version of the game where you can choose to have like 1 tenth as many things to do, just as an option, cos man there are only so many hours in the day. How long will a season take if you are settin instructions for every opposition player, setting detailed indivdual training, tactical briefings etc? It must be like an hour for each game. Remember the good ole days of tonton zola mokouko and a young zlatan ibrahimovic, boom, one 10 hour session you have done a season and tonton has scored 50. This game takes me probably 30 or 40 hours to do a season, its too much, and the AI relating to player interactions, teamtalks etc is too stupid and limited at this stage to bother including such features. Looking forward to the metaverse AR/VR super realisitic FM games, with machine learning personas of the players and shit like that lol. But until then, every time I have to tell a player that "I have faith in you, get out there and make a difference" I just cringe lol
@themetanerd1
@themetanerd1 4 жыл бұрын
Should you be using Instant Result a lot in your save? (Available on downloaded skins)
@ssultan5275
@ssultan5275 4 жыл бұрын
Can you win the league with one tactic or must you change every 5 games ?
@KingLamink
@KingLamink 4 жыл бұрын
if the tactic is good you can win the league with only that tactic
@rossing4463
@rossing4463 4 жыл бұрын
Ive used the same tactic in my milan save for 3 seasons. Ive won league twice and UCL . So yes you can use same tactic if its a good fit for your club
@ssultan5275
@ssultan5275 4 жыл бұрын
Ross this game won’t let me use the same Tactic after 5 games 😂😭
@KingLamink
@KingLamink 4 жыл бұрын
@@ssultan5275 I have no idea what you just said
@ssultan5275
@ssultan5275 4 жыл бұрын
Reece Bell what formation do you use ?
@nifemidosunmu4435
@nifemidosunmu4435 4 жыл бұрын
Stop making excessive promises, it never ends well.
@theicekiller7574
@theicekiller7574 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you just have to be a dick to players, you can't please them all
@nifemidosunmu4435
@nifemidosunmu4435 4 жыл бұрын
Forget tactics, in FM if you lose the locker room, you lose the game.
@fmscout
@fmscout 4 жыл бұрын
This is true.
@nifemidosunmu4435
@nifemidosunmu4435 4 жыл бұрын
@@fmscout Have you been fired before? I get sacked all the time, just because of the dressing room. Any tips?
@99dndd
@99dndd 4 жыл бұрын
Nifemi Dosunmu I found that my issue was reputation. I created my manager with no experience and the basic coaching badge. The League 2 team that I was managing didn’t want to listen to me. If your reputation is low, look for a similar reputation team to manage.
@nifemidosunmu4435
@nifemidosunmu4435 4 жыл бұрын
@@99dndd True. Age also. When I first started, my age was 24. So the older to some extent the better.
@dylanjones5572
@dylanjones5572 4 жыл бұрын
Does the other AI teams learn your tatic and be able to counter it
@MrCardiffian
@MrCardiffian 4 жыл бұрын
Yes in the sense of adjusting its tactic to Defend or Counter against your Positive or Attack during the game or before, or visa versa.
@smithy8856
@smithy8856 4 жыл бұрын
It’s nothing to do with your tactics, it’s unfair AI advantages that screw you.
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