What does the fuel pump solenoid do? Why did you change it? Thanks

@@darkknight17 it did not send signal to the fuel pump when I turned the key to the on possition, it was water damaged, I added dialectric grease to the connector before replacing.

Ya it’s a tight fit but it does sneak out the left side!

Did you have to replace any seals or gaskets on the coolant tube? That was my only worry. Didn’t want to be held back waiting for parts.

Yup I definitely let the smoke out haha!

I have another video where I checked compression and valve lash on my bike because I thought the same thing! It was almost due for an adjustment. Everything was in spec on my bike still. I think I had roughly 26000kms at the time.

@@JT2JZ Damn so it was the starter all along then mmm ok, ima replace the starter myself the easy way thru the wall on the left fairings and coolant draining.

Thanks boss. I do have some older videos on the supra as well if you are into the imports 🤘

I did remove the thermostat. Do you mean the hard pipe between the engine and thermostat? That pipe does interfere a bit. I just didn’t want to replace any extra seals or gaskets

​@@JT2JZwell, no need to remove the tank, the airbox and the throttle bodies. Just remove the thermostat on the left side.

I had this issue. My r1 originally had starting issues. I replaced the started and it solve dit Then the bike was stolen dropped then towed laid down on a flat bed. Now it won't start again...

These bikes have a sensor to kill the engine if the bike is dropped so that they do not keep running with no oil pressure. I would check that sensor and make sure the small component inside the sensor is not stuck and moves free from side to side.

See it

If your bike is a 2009 or newer good chance your starter is failing just like my bike.

Yea it’s a 2009 I had a feeling it was the starter since it’s pretty common. Can it also be the crankshaft position sensor because I’m getting a code 12? Or will it still try to turn over with a bad crankshaft position sensor instead of just making a single click sound?

What does the code 12 description say? My thoughts if you hear a click that’s the bike sending power through the relay trying to start still. Battery power would be live at the starter So I would still think the bike is trying to start. If the code was the issue I would imagine you would hear nothing when trying to start

Hey man I know this is an old post lol, mine was throwing a code 12 as well, took the starter out and the brushes were fried. But as for the code 12 I think it just has something to do with the starter not working anymore. I seen another video of a starter replacement and his bike was throwing a code 12 as well. I’ll update after I install the new starter to see if it goes away.

@genedoolittle1930 mine didn’t have a code but the starter did fix everything.

Anytime brotha

Glad to help. Yes factory plugs are good quality

Most Japanese applications (Bike and Cars alike) recommend NGK plugs, and NGK plugs happen to be some of the best plugs you can get. Arguably the single best for Japanese engines. Some people swear by their AC Delco or whatever here in American because of their old car (and old wives tales) but many fail to realize those were American engines, and often AC Delco is recommended.... Pop some Delcos in a Honda civic and watch it miss and spit and sputter. Slap some NGK in and then she purrs like a kitten.

Agreed. Use the right plug for the right application. Ac Delco is my go to plug for all my chev trucks but definitely not in my bikes or my Toyota supra. Ngk goes in all my imports

Check your battery first. If the battery is healthy it sounds like a starter. Mine did the same thing before it completely failed and wouldnt crank at all.

​@@JT2JZ thanks man. Yea, the starter is bad

No worries. Unfortunately it’s a common issue with these bikes but don’t stress. The job isn’t as bad as it looks

Battery is the easiest thing to check first. Starters are very common issue though. I also had corrosion in my starter relay connector. That’s another easy check. I have a separate video on that repair.

@@JT2JZ the thing is I already replaced those two. Did battery and starter and relay too, spark plugs were the last thing I did. Bike is at 20100 miles rn

@@JT2JZ only thing I can thing of is that I wasted the starter while using the bike in the meanwhile. Had to press it like 1-5 times something for it to start

@ExtraSync sounds like the starter will be the root cause of your issues then. Only component left. That’s roughly the same mileage when I had my starter fail as well

@@JT2JZ what starter should I get? The one I got was a 70-80 one on Amazon.

I struggled with issues for many years as well

Likely a starter aswell. They get a lot of heat soak that’s hard on them

@@JT2JZ I'm thinking about make a replacement of the starter. I saw some starters in alliexpress, but I have questions about their quality. Here in Brazil this part is very expensive who prevents the purchase.

I bought a cheap starter off of Amazon and it worked better than I expected. Same issue here in North America. Yamaha starters are expensive and nobody had them in stock.

@@JT2JZ Do you now if the starter which you bought is 2 brushes or 4 brushes?

I did not disassemble the new starter so I am not 100% sure to be honest. I assume it would be a 4 brush.

Ya mine is just a cheap starter as well. So far so good though. Hopefully it lasts.

Definitely sounds like a starter issue to me. With how hot these Crossplane engines run the starters get a lot of heat soak.

@@JT2JZ thanks mAn gonna order one now I'll keep you

No worries. Ive got a link in the description to the one I bought and have had success with on my bike.

No I haven’t ran in to that issue. What’s the code description for 60 error ?

I know the feeling very well. I had a good year where I spent more time working on the bike than actually riding it. It makes no sense why this bike is still my favourite lol! It may be possible doing it that way but honestly the tank comes off relatively easy / quick and gives you more visibility / light and room to work with. If I were to do the job again I would likely still take the tank off. You could start with the coolant reservoir and take a quick look in at how tight it may be but I personally wouldn’t waist to much time fighting.

​@@JT2JZ I agree man. Thank you for the reply. You've helped me in the past on here as well and I appreciate it. I'm mostly a ZX10R guy but I adopted this R1 into my family and I've got a soft spot for it. It's nice having two types of bikes one with a cross plane and one with a flat plane two different animals. The ZX10 makes all the power up top which to me has to be ridden like a two-stroke to stay in the power. Hopefully my issues with this bike will be done after the starter is replaced lol

I’m always happy to help out other bikers in the community when I can. Hopefully I saved you some time and hassle. Less time wrenching and more time riding! My bike has been good since the starter replacement so I’m sure you will be too.

I would replace the starter relay if it’s what’s causing your buzz

Right. I learnt that the hard way. When my starter failed I was 1200kms from home. Not the most enjoyable ride home bomb starting it at every gas station! Cold bomb starts are tough too. Took me probably 4 attempts running as fast as I could for a cold start at roughly 8c ambient temp.

you aint bump starting a R1…

You definitely can when you are forced and have no other options. It takes everything you have running as fast as you can though. Not enjoyable at all! Flatplane r1s start a lot easier bomb starting. My Crossplane was a bi”ch especially with a rear tire that was cold and worn out. It just wanted to skid instead of rotate.

This model fires up just fine in 2nd gear

Maybe in a warm climate. Definitely not on cold starts just above 0c*

Hard to say. I think the starter was weak the entire time causing my issue. My starter ended up failing shortly after putting a massive lithium ion battery in the bike. I think the extra starting power finally caused the starter to completely fail.

@@JT2JZ either way thanks for the vids I got a 11 raven I'm going to have some fun on in florida this summer

I bet you have some awesome riding in that area! The raven is definitely my favourite colour combo

@@JT2JZ think I’m having the same issue with my starter. Currently pulling it apart. I’ve got the white, red and silver 09 r1

Very likely. Starters are probably the most common issue with these bikes unfortunately. My new starter is still working great to this day even though it was a cheap replacement. I’m Very happy with it.

Check out my other older video where I found corrosion in my starter relay. It’s a $40 part. Something easy to try anyway

@@JT2JZ thank you! I will try that.

They are just cheap bulbs off of Amazon believe it or not.

Is that a supra!?

I’m pretty impressed with the cheap starter so far. Since the install it’s never failed to start on me a single time. Knock on wood but all my issues are still fixed.

@@JT2JZ Thanks! Good to hear, will be doing my starter and plugs this winter then.

Good choice. It’s better to do it early and not get stranded away from home like I did!

I feel your pain! Mechanical issues can be very stressful. I fought with my bike for nearly a full riding season

You definitely have an issue. My guess would be the starter relay or starter it’s self. I had lots of starting issues with my bike over the years. Check for corrosion in the starter relay. Your starter is likely getting weak ( very common issue on these years )

From what I gathered, it's a heat ordeal

That’s unfortunate. Was it a genuine Yamaha starter? Or just a cheap one?

@@JT2JZ it's between cheap and genuine. The genuine arrives in 3 months. And as I use the bike daily I cant wait that much.

Hopefully mine lasts longer than that. Mine is a cheapy but the bike is parked for winter now. Won’t be able to really test it until next season.

www.amazon.ca/dp/B08B83KPVN/ref=nosim?tag=jt2jz00-20

Try that link and see if it works. This is a fairly cheap option that I have had good luck with. It’s likely not the best quality but I had the same issue. I Couldn’t find a factory starter or upgraded one anywhere. My cheap starter is still going strong today today though believe it or not.

Starters and starter relay are both common on these bikes. Check the starter relay under the seat. Mine had corrosion in it.

@@JT2JZ mine had a little bit of corrosion in the prongs but even with a little corrosion that’s usually what causes it? My r1 has around 16k miles

Could be many things but that relay is just one of the easiest / cheapest things to check and replace. I have a video on my channel. My bike wouldn’t crank at all and that relay fixed it. Maybe check the stator if the bike was crashed.

Link is in the description. It’s aftermarket but works like a charm 👌

Fitment and operation is perfect. I’ve been using it over a year now and still no issues.

Sounds like you covered almost everything. I wouldn’t replace the starter again, that would likely be a wast of money. Check the starter relay under the seat. Mine had corrosion in it that caused intermittent hard cold starts. I replaced it with a cheap Amazon relay for like $40. Oem is 100ish if you want to go that route. Definitely an easy thing to check / start with.

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@@JT2JZ I did do the relay too actually, used a cheap one from Amazon, but the shop said it’s good

@ExtraSync does your bike have a lot of kms? Maybe a compression check might be a good idea just to make sure the engine isn’t getting tired. While you have the tank off I would ohm out the starter circuit end to end just to make sure there is no high resistance or anything the might affect that circuit. Other than that make sure the battery cca is 280cca at the minimum. These bikes are known to be harder starting even when working correctly so it doesn’t take much for them not to start unfortunately. I wish I had more insight for you.

@@JT2JZ it has about 21800 miles. I’m pretty sure they did that. I know they tested the starter and said it was getting its power. And yea I know these bikes are know to be an ass with starting up

Still works perfect believe it or not. I’m surprised considering it’s just a cheap unit off of Amazon

I would start with checking your battery. Those older years are not as common for starter issues

@@JT2JZ thank you bro

No worries

I am very interested if that is true as well.

@@JT2JZ its is true, how he does it only GOD knows. But from the look of things,i think it will work

Thanks for sharing. That’s very useful knowledge.

I had the exact same fear using a cheap starter but ended up buying it anyway because my dealer could not get one in a reasonable time. I use the bike as a daily driver all summer and have had zero issues so far. It’s never failed to start even a single time. Very impressed with the quality so far considering how cheap it was!

@@JT2JZ Thank you so much for the feedback man!! god bless. i kust posted a clip of how my bike behaves. im just hope its not a wire harness issue ):

If it’s a Crossplane engine I would bet money it’s the starter and not wiring. They are a very common issue on these bikes unfortunately. I found out the hard way!

Roughly 16500miles

They are just cheap leds off of Amazon. H7 style bulbs. I think I payed around $40 and they work great. I’ve put roughly 5000kms on this season and the bulbs haven’t skipped a beat.

Always nice when something like that happens!

Ktm does the same thing for bikes older with open recalls 👌🏾 good to know these companies kinda care about us consumers lol

@JT2JZ i hace the same problem with my bike thank you for the video its gonna be more easy than what i was thinking the way you do it

I’m glad I could help! The hardest part is not knowing what to expect. Hopefully I saved you some time and effort 👍

Yes it is. Unfortunately I had to learn the hard way!

26000kms

I have 31000kms now and it’s still going strong after the repair

I believe it’s stock on the 2012+ bikes.

@@JT2JZ ah okay. I have another question for you, does your r1 make a couple of clank noises when you FIRST start the bike up and then it goes away as soon as it starts? Mine does it and it’s coming from the clutch and my clutch is working fine. I’ve even had a buddy say his r1 did the same on the cold start. Just wanted to know what you thought cause you’ve dove into your r1 a lot more than I have

I think I know the noise you are talking about. Almost like a slight rotational noise and usually goes away after cold starts or if you pump the clutch a few times? Ya mine has a bit of noise from the clutch side as well when cold. I’ve never had the cover off, clutch is still working perfect for me as well so haven’t worried about it to much. My only advice would be just make sure no rattle is coming from the timing chain tensioner on the right side of the bike. Apparently those tensioners are a common failure item as well and usually make noise on cold starts when they are on the way out.

@@JT2JZ glad to know you hear it too lol but nah I don’t think it’s the tension chain cause the engine is running fine I think. I’m kinda having the same problems you were having. It’s having a hard time to start and all of that. BUT I will say that at the moment it’ll pop really bad at like 5000-5500 when it’s hot and I’m cruising or just when I hold the throttle there. I keep getting told it’s my spark plugs going out so I’m hoping that’ll fix it for me. I have a video of it but I can’t send it on here so hopefully you get what I’m saying lol. But if the plugs don’t fix it then I don’t know what else I could do. Maybe tune it but that’s pretty pricey for me right now 💀

ya I try not to listen to close to the raw engine noise on cold starts. These engines are kind of clunky / rattly down low at the best of times. Just listen to the exhaust and nothing else lol If it’s only popping on deceleration at 5000rpm that’s normal on these bikes with the factory emissions air pump and aftermarket exhausts. Mine does it at that rpm as well even with a tuner ( power commander 5 ). If it’s popping or missfire when you are on the throttle that’s definitely not a good thing.

It’s still working well for me over a year later 👍

Ya prices from the Yamaha dealerships are ridiculous. The only thing I buy from them are my oil filters. I bought my starter on Amazon for under $100. Probably not the same quality as a genuine Yamaha starter but it’s doing it’s job so far.

I was having a hard time finding any starters in stock. I ended up just getting a cheap one off of Amazon for now. It works but not sure how it will hold up In the long run. I spent under $100 so I don’t have a lot of faith in it to be honest. Time will tell. Unfortunately my riding season is over so will have to wait until next season to put some more hours on the bike.

Thanks. I’m having the same issue. But I’m getting the starter, Stator and starter relay all at once.

No problem. Replacing everything is a good idea to save yourself from any future headaches.

Ya I do like the fz design for how out in the open everything is! Even simple maintenance like oil changes are twice as fast.

Ya It’s always a risk

It all breaks sometime

Very true unfortunately