Company Driver VS Lease Operator 🚛💰 (Pay Comparison)

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@arturofuerte180 Жыл бұрын

For the past 2 years I gross $114k and the year after that I gross $125k as a company driver. So their is money to be made as a company driver. You just have work for the right company hauling freight that paid the driver good.

@ravshanormsby Жыл бұрын

Did you strictly work on eld clock or? Just curious.

@youngtrucker9475 Жыл бұрын

What company are u at ?💀

@kisht7469 Жыл бұрын

@@youngtrucker9475 He’ll never answer this question🤣🤣🤣

@mosthated8190 Жыл бұрын

@@youngtrucker9475 I want to know the company name. Everybody says the same thing, “you just have to work for it” what does that exactly mean? No home time ? Just working all day like a donkey ?

@karma6768 Жыл бұрын

Zeller Transportation

@concertscoastersandnitro725 Жыл бұрын

As a company driver you get benefits like paid vacation with no headaches of the truck

@kylehooker3710 Жыл бұрын

Doesn't make it worth hardly making any money. As a lease operator or owner op, you take off whenever you want.

@concertscoastersandnitro725 Жыл бұрын

@@kylehooker3710 and your not paid when you take off work ...no vacation time

@offroadvehiclelover 11 ай бұрын

@@kylehooker3710that's my next move, lease operator with a paid for truck hauling reefer units to dcs. Consistent work year round. Gross between 5 to 6k weekly. Company driver is for the birds.😊

@scottlemiere2024 10 ай бұрын

@@offroadvehiclelover Minus 2k a week in taxes, plus truck payment, plus repairs, plus fuel. Take home is realistically about $1500 a week and you get no health insurance, vacation pay or sick pay. Lease operator is a scam.

@JTmovingweight99 5 ай бұрын

1k per week isn’t shit

@robertpolkamp Жыл бұрын

It is always a bad idea to lease a truck from the same company you depend on for your revenue, ALWAYS.

@stephenmathis3299 10 ай бұрын

Amen

@Danally1123 6 ай бұрын

Not really, a walk away lease is less risky. It’s also an avenue to build business credit in a low risk situation

@bufordmaddogtannen5164 Жыл бұрын

We need to eliminate brokers.

@alejandrobarcena8564 Жыл бұрын

The only way to eliminate them is by becoming one yourself

@alexiscobian9146 Жыл бұрын

Then you have to find your own loads.

@jeffreycairns767 Жыл бұрын

Brokers aren't the issue. They try to make as much money as possible, just like us truck drivers. The issue is companies that are willing to haul cheap freight.

@charlesbrown6258 Жыл бұрын

@@jeffreycairns767 which is still the issue brought by the broker. You just contradicted yourself. Brokers are useless to have anyway. It's just an extra hand to take more money off the load

@jeffreycairns767 Жыл бұрын

@@charlesbrown6258 I didn't contradict myself. If brokers weren't around, yes the loads would pay more but the shipping companies would be so backed up trying to book loads with drivers that every shipping company would need many, many extra workers to keep track of every load and every truck picking the load up that there would be no extra money for the trucks. It may work for smaller shipping companies but only very few. Not to mention that they could promise the same load to 15 different trucks so it would be nuts. A third party company (brokers) is the best way to go unless you can work out a deal direct with a trucking company to haul only for them. Truckers want as much of the rate as possible and so does the broker. If a trucking company is willing to haul cheap freight than it's on them. Trucking companies have to say no to cheap freight and the rates will go up but until that happens, and I doubt it ever will, brokers will keep making more. I'll never blame anybody for wanting to make more money and if people are willing to take less, again, that's on them. I, personally, will never haul cheap freight but that also means my loads aren't as available. Truckers want to drive 389 Pete's, drive 80 mph and still make $10,000 for no miles. It's never going to happen, not with mega carriers out there with aerodynamic trucks, cut back to 62 mph and excepting every load they can.

@trucker8084 Жыл бұрын

Hourly paid took home 85000 last year. These drivers need to make a move!

@shaydesofblue2281 Жыл бұрын

Depending on locations. In TX, my hourly truckers doesn't get paid that much.

@goshawk4340 Жыл бұрын

Pay is around 24 to 25 an hour in Dallas.

@ne9835 11 ай бұрын

@@goshawk4340 😱😱

@TheGSoutherland 8 ай бұрын

These are 6 month statements

@LeAlexo 8 ай бұрын

First one literally makes more than you lol

@dcdelta3316 Жыл бұрын

Nobody on here is paying attention to what he said. This was only covering SIX MONTHS worth of pay. Meaning both amounts should be DOUBLED (x2) if you want to account for an entire year’s worth of pay on either.

@Loucfr Жыл бұрын

I love how when anybody talks about owner operator vs company driver, the only thing they really point out is the pay difference. But what they don’t tell you is all the permits you have to get, the registration you have to complete, the ludicrous insurance you pay, and all the red tape associated with being an owner operator. Not to mention you could have your truck break down and be out of work for days if not weeks. Sure being an owner operator is nice but it’s no where near as stress free as being a company driver, and there is nothing stress free about being a company driver. In a perfect world everyone would own their own trucks. But the reality is a lot of people don’t want to deal with all that bullshit. So really it depends on the individual.

@CowboyQuan 10 ай бұрын

its a extra 800 a week in take home pay . ur already clearing 1300 hundred a week as a company man.

@marylandman8638 Ай бұрын

I actually know people that started out as company drivers then became owner operators then went back to being company drivers because of the expenses.

@softlifejasmine 23 күн бұрын

Not to mention the high taxes you pay as a business owner(lease operator)

@jasonv1984 Жыл бұрын

I did not see federal income tax taken out for the lease operator but it is taken out on the company drivers statement. Once the lease operator pays the federal taxes both drivers will make about the same.

@TheAutisticTrucker Жыл бұрын

That's because lease operators are 1099 workers. They pay their taxes at the end of the year. W2 workers aka company drivers it automatically comes out

@MrJshsedgwick Жыл бұрын

@@TheAutisticTrucker obviously, which is why the guy you are commenting on said "once the lease operator pays the federal taxes..."

@charlesbrown6258 Жыл бұрын

They pay their own taxes, they're owner operators buying a truck through the company

@jeffreycairns767 Жыл бұрын

Federal and provincial tax.

@dominickjustave3558 Жыл бұрын

@@charlesbrown6258 no there not

@trace1k478 Жыл бұрын

Eliminate brokers and actually run more loads, with a smaller company and you’ll bring in over 120k as a lease operator.

@ukroadgoat 5 ай бұрын

US$53k before tax. Compared to 49k before tax as a company driver I don’t see much advantage in coping with all the hassle, risk potential liabilities or SLA penalties headaches, etc unless one is looking to expand and run a fleet.

@kennethlopez4217 3 ай бұрын

@@ukroadgoatdo your own research outside of here, as an owner operator you can definitely make a lot more money but you also have a lot of freedom and if you get used to that freedom and forget about the work part, you’ll definitely make more money being a company driver

@ukroadgoat 3 ай бұрын

@@kennethlopez4217 you do not make much sense, dude. Let's put it to rest. Whatever. Peace and keep safe out there.

@NomadHorizon Жыл бұрын

This is just for his company if anyone was curious. Lease drivers will always be payed more, but will have many deductions for fuel, food, lodging, maintenance, downtime, etc. Company drivers have all that paid for them but will have decreased pay. But that doesn't mean you'll always make more money in either specific area. At my job, company drivers make more than lease drivers. But most of our drivers are outsourced to another company who has their own company drivers.

@willynaylor7356 Жыл бұрын

I work local 12 hours a day,60 hours a week,grossed 94k last year

@laosbboie Жыл бұрын

Very nice

@reinaldostrobel81 Жыл бұрын

What's your employer?

@kenerythompson88 Жыл бұрын

@willynaylor7356 what was your net?

@bubbles6883 Жыл бұрын

@Steve H yeah I dont want to do that

@nia6849 Жыл бұрын

@@bubbles6883 why you say that? Explain

@satcom916 Жыл бұрын

You wonder why there is a driver shortage. 2023 is going to be a scary year. 😨 drivers should be at 180k a year and exempt from all federal taxes!!!

@brandonglick8956 4 ай бұрын

Don’t forget that lease operators are under 1099. He may have made $52k but 25% of that goes to the government for taxes which is like $13k so really he made about $39k give or take. I’m guesstimating don’t come for me.

@XxXNinjaFanXxX Жыл бұрын

My newest driver is netting 95k and thats after a year of being with us. We haul our own freight, all drop and hooks. You choose where you want to go, and we have every fucking type of truck you can imagine. Im talking flatnose, cabovers, nextgen 680's, we have something for everyone.

@AnonymousTbag Жыл бұрын

That's basically minimum wage. If a company driver is not making at least $100k, you're with the wrong company. I was a heavy haul driver for several years in fairfield, CA, I was only making $25-35k annually. I went to HFC and make well over $109k my first year. And every year they give an extra $1000 bonus monthly. So after my 6 months, I made $2200 from my CPM and then my monthly bonus of $1000 which I was making over $10k per month. Now it's my 3rd year and each month I get $3k on top of my cpm weekly bonus. Hfc goes up to 10 years = $10k monthly bonus. Bonuses are taxed. But I'm able to live in a medium household living in California with no money issues. Anything less then $80k, you're basically working minimum wage. Time to find a new job.

@PallasRil Жыл бұрын

It's not minimum wage. It's 6 months. Double each amount.

@MarlonMcKnight-dm7yw Жыл бұрын

How can I apply to hfc

@benab5912 Жыл бұрын

How much experience did u have prior to working for HFC?

@AnonymousTbag Жыл бұрын

@benab5912 8 yrs. Mostly heavy haul. Flatbed, lowboy, military freight. Rarely ever reefer/dry van. You don't need experience. You get paid the same straight from school or 20+ yrs of experience.but they don't provide schooling. Training yes. Training can be done really fast. We have 2 trainers and they're awesome. Obviously I didn't need one. I just had to drive 20 miles around town with the supervisor. Not sure if I mentioned before but you have to provide your own way of getting to omaha or sidney, IA. They pay for hotels. The only reason they don't provide transportation because it costed them alot of money when people never shown up. I flew from Sacramento to omaha. It costed me around $400. You get whatever money back from getting there real fast. Note: I'm not a recruiter, I don't get an compensation for recruiting. I'm just one of the drivers who enjoys the company that doesn't give bs. Yeah. The dispatcher can be a hard ass at times but every single person in the office including the boss drives too. Except for the Bpss's daughter. So nobody bs you there. I'm still walking away in a couple years because I want to get I to bull hauling and I miss driving a kenworth w900 and I miss driving the long nose, especially a manual transmission that's not governed. That's just my preference.

@DarryModz Жыл бұрын

Dude spoke facts if yeen making 100 your making minimum wage just off the fact inflation has cause housing,car market,food,gas everything to sky rocket 1000 a week use to be good money years ago not anymore 🤝

@user-gq2yv2bs8g Жыл бұрын

Don't be a lease operator for NO TRUCK COMPANY, because the company IS NOT gonna give you the Ratecon with the original LOAD PAY RATE, and the CUSTOMER INFORMATION, if you can't call the broker or customer to confirm the Pay rate, then the company's RIPPING you OFF

@cauledmonson8579 Жыл бұрын

What he's not telling you is as a leased driver you are 1099 so in the end you make the same if not less due to all the taxes plus self employment tax

@David-vb8ih Жыл бұрын

L/O $53K is a pre tax number vs company post tax net of $35K. There is more to the story so make sure you hold back 25% to pay your personal income tax with , then pocket whats left over.

@toddwieland7664 Жыл бұрын

Mile pay is a rip off Everyone steals from the driver

@usaverageguy Жыл бұрын

If the company driver only netted $35,600, the company is robbing him. I netted $53k most of my last 10 years. And if the truck blew an engine, it was not my problem.

@biggerbill82 Жыл бұрын

I’m home every day and off on weekends and make more than the lease driver does. I would never work for a company that paid that low.

@chasewilliam1902 Жыл бұрын

It's for 6 months lol

@Bama_Boy Жыл бұрын

@@chasewilliam1902 William didn't say he made more in a year, I'm sure he has at the very minimum basic knowledge in order to understand the pay given was for a 6 month period.

@charlesbrown6258 Жыл бұрын

I doubt you make more than a lease if you're a company driver which you didn't say, but yeah for a fact you don't if they have the right loads being hauled and you're home every day. You probably work long as hell hours doing local

@musayildiz9189 Жыл бұрын

@@charlesbrown6258 I agree but who ever that guy is leasing with isn’t making much

@truck_the_world6137 Жыл бұрын

Stop lying to yourself just to make yourself feel good 😂🤣 people that jump into lease purchases can come up if they know what they’re doing. I’ll go stub for stub with you as a lease vs company. If you’re talking about lease companies like Schneider, JB Hunt, Werner etc, then I believe you, go ask the guys over at Vl trucking lease the amount of money they’ve made and has changed their lives.

@user-sh8cl3it2m 5 ай бұрын

So a person working at my local SHEETZ convenience store who worked 70 hours a week (like a company driver normally works) making sandwiches and selling gas would make $5k MORE than a trucker... No wonder there's such a shortage of drivers...

@SagatClan108 Жыл бұрын

Proof that their company is robbing the company driver blind. If he's only taking home $35,000 in 6 months. And only 54 Grand when you're an owner operator. I'm almost certain that at Amazon employees get paid more than that.

@CowboyQuan 10 ай бұрын

The owner op makes around 200k while the conpany guy makes around 80-90k a year . The difference is 30k a year in take home pay witch is about 600 hundred a week.

@Nino1Hunned 5 күн бұрын

For company driver that is still almost $1500 weekly. Being that you’ll be in your truck you can cancel rent and bills like electricity…and even if you get a day or two back home you can get a nice Airbnb all in all making $1500 a week you can save $1000 weekly

@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News 5 күн бұрын

Hmmmm, not a bad prospect though I think there are a lot of factors to consider. For example, what if they have a family and can't do the recurring rentals?

@austinsalyer8966 Жыл бұрын

Honestly at those prices I could not see myself or king for that company. At the standard rates across the board your company driver should be making at least what the lease driver makes and the lease driver should be doubling that.

@mikerenello295 Жыл бұрын

It's amazing how you show just how guys who are drivers should not walk away from that company they should run away from that company what a crook

@brendanberto-jones3352 Жыл бұрын

100k a year is not bad 🤣

@scottlemiere2024 10 ай бұрын

@@brendanberto-jones3352 that was six months and no taxes were taken out on the sucker. So you can deduct another 40% from that $53k.

@pauldruckerman4469 Жыл бұрын

Totally underpaying your drivers you should have more respect for them in the sacrifice they take away from their families and give them a raise

@rankhornjp Жыл бұрын

$35k/yr working 70hrs per week. What a joke!

@TheDeane 10 ай бұрын

He said six months so 70k. Still crap tho

@superseries7007 Жыл бұрын

No profit driving trucks... Thank you. 👍

@turbo12v Жыл бұрын

@@calvinjulian2092 thats 99% of truck companies steal money from drivers while they pocket all the money. This how they get new shinny trucks for new drivers.

@alelectric2767 Жыл бұрын

@@turbo12v Then go start your own company. 👍

@jeffreycairns767 Жыл бұрын

This company charges minimum of $2.30 per mile but pay the lease operator $1.50 per mile Including fuel surcharge. I make $2.05 per mile minimum (depending on the miles. Shorter hauls pay more per mile) plus $25 per pick/drop. I make $20-$25,000 per month. Plates, insurance, elog, ALL maintenance, etc is included in my lease agreement. I also have a walk away deal should I ever need or want out.

@jesslittle7110 Жыл бұрын

Lots of profit driving trucks .... just not for them .

@TheDeane 10 ай бұрын

Not with ET transport. There are plenty of other companies that will pay you a lot more than that. I do very well and there are plenty of guys who are doing even better than me as company drivers

@Jonny.batt.1990 9 ай бұрын

We need to go back to the old days and re-regulate the trucking industry when the trucking industry was regulated you made money there was big time brokerage firms and trucking companies made money big and small

@robertpandi5893 Жыл бұрын

There’s just no way that’s what a driver makes. These numbers will be valid for 2023, but this is just a very very different year. This is not the norm. Can’t be. Rectification … the pay period was February-July 2021. Look closely. So, a lease operator will net over 100k for a full year. That looks a lot more realistic.

@thecount1929 Жыл бұрын

How many hours did each work?

@yosecretsquirrel Жыл бұрын

Both are making crap wages. The risk involved regardless of the contract is significant but the pay is not. No wonder we have supply chain issues.

@ryanpatterson336 Жыл бұрын

That’s what happens when you go to a big company, the pay sucks.

@markdubois3512 Жыл бұрын

I make 15000 more than the lease operator. And I work at a group home. Who is doing driving jobs for that little money. That's crazy to me

@N54God666 Жыл бұрын

Both are absolutely horrible pay, 2 years ago when I was a company driver I pulled 110k. Now it's 400k with my own truck. What do I do? Deliver containers to the port

@quiet9088 Жыл бұрын

What'd you do to get your own truck ?

@N54God666 Жыл бұрын

@@quiet9088 can you not read?

@TheGamingChad. Жыл бұрын

@@N54God666 im thinking about becoming a truck driver, would you say owning the truck is arguably a better way to go as long as i can pay cash for it?

@N54God666 Жыл бұрын

@@TheGamingChad. you don't even need to pay for it cash but that will just be better. Doing your own thing if significantly better as long as your not just doing load boards

@TheGamingChad. Жыл бұрын

@@N54God666 what does an F650 classify as? Does it still have plenty of opportunities when it comes to trucking?

@gator5081 Жыл бұрын

I know one company I'd never even consider going to work for...

@squonkers762 Жыл бұрын

Western Express

@reinaldostrobel81 Жыл бұрын

@@squonkers762 what's wrong with western express?

@squonkers762 Жыл бұрын

@@reinaldostrobel81 lol

@eugeneanthony4623 Жыл бұрын

@@reinaldostrobel81 Everything. They got worst pay 💰 in the USA 🇺🇸

@lamentingdriver 8 ай бұрын

I'm stuck there for another 4 months until my contract is done. 2 months in rn.

@scottlemiere2024 Жыл бұрын

You got about 25k in taxes to take out of that lease operator still. Lease operator is a scam.

@RonLennard1020 16 күн бұрын

Don’t forget write offs, leasing is a business model , not a company job with no overhead to operate.

@sapperveteran245 Жыл бұрын

Seems like some drivers are working for peanuts.

@gsinghpbx007 Ай бұрын

Uber driver’s make more then this in NYC

@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Ай бұрын

I hear that... and I believe that

@shadnunemaker5869 15 күн бұрын

What's really amazing is that 26 years ago as an Owner Operator I was making $120,000 a year. More than this guy today. And I think there's this thing called inflation which means the value of his dollar is worth about half what it was 26 years ago. So in reality the Owner is making about half as much as the company driver.

@harryharmon7720 Жыл бұрын

a company driver is drug tested a lease driver is not

@392nightrunner 10 ай бұрын

Any cdl driver is tested

@El_Borrego_Negro Жыл бұрын

Lmao both those numbers are weak, I make more then the o/o as a company driver. The way I see it both of them need to look for a better place

@Yannick3585 Жыл бұрын

For 6 months its not that bad. Depend on how many days out.

@El_Borrego_Negro Жыл бұрын

@@Yannick3585 my schedule is 17-7 thats 5-1-5-1-5-7, every 1 day I'm home then I get 7 days off. Like getting a vacation every 17 days. As a company driver you should be around 30k at 3-4 months. If you're not there, I would advise to keep looking

@michaelhenson9507 Жыл бұрын

This is a Canadian, and talking about 6 months. So take that in mind.

@CartoonWeasel Жыл бұрын

Lease doesn't seem to get taxes take off and hes paying no benefits. Company would be better in this case since taxes are taken off and also retirment pay etc....

@amazinggrace313 5 ай бұрын

Leasing from a company that controls what you eat is a fools island . NEVER DO THIS GUYS!!

@hoseapierce2118 Ай бұрын

I did it to make more, which I did in comparison. Only that swift dedicated account for Walmart as a company driver would have got me more than any other company job I’ve had. The highest net pay I’ve done was with bay and bay transportation, a lot of weeks I’ve made over $4900 net pay. I bet close to $90,000. Things did fall off in March of 2022, that’s when I left the road. My DM was crap previously safety and slacked off. Listen to people when they say come get under my DM.

@waqasnoor2808 Ай бұрын

You should also mention home times of both as well. Leasing is the worst decision any trucker makes. As a company driver you have the upper hand while in lease you’re their slave.

@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Ай бұрын

Leasing blindly will sink you very very quickly

@davemartin4424 10 ай бұрын

Lol I'm a company driver my gross pay last year was 117.000$. Lmao and I drive a new company truck. .065 per mile 35.00$ drop and pick and first and last plus wait time at 27$ after an hour.

@JTmovingweight99 5 ай бұрын

I netted 76k in 2023 but man was it a grind, 47 weeks on the road to touch that as a company driver. 130k miles and lots of tarping

@bobjohnson1212 Жыл бұрын

I make 70k as a company driver and only stay in the US. I don't have to drive 3k miles aweek.

@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing Bob!

@truckingjourneys Жыл бұрын

God damn you don't pay your driver shit do you I'm a company driver over here making $100,000 in the US you guys are fucking paying shit aren't you let me guess you're paying your company drivers 36 Cpm 😂

@warlocksnevereverdie Жыл бұрын

It's over 6 months

@chipinfoos Жыл бұрын

How are you making $100,000 as a company driver for 6 months????

@itsallovernow2929 Жыл бұрын

@@chipinfoos That's lease operator for 6 months

@chipinfoos Жыл бұрын

@@itsallovernow2929 so trucking journeys is a lease company driver making $100,000 in 6 months? That would be pretty good 👍

@CartoonWeasel Жыл бұрын

@@itsallovernow2929 the comp driver also was for 6 months

@geraldsteam1056 Жыл бұрын

Have to dispatchers for my company don't even answer the phone it's very frustrating

@SaigeRori 7 ай бұрын

That company is disgusting. Companies that pay that little should be embarrassed .

@badhabit3737 Жыл бұрын

Lease operator is the biggest mistake ever.! If you want to be an owner operator then go buy yourself a truck of your choice from a dealership. Get your own authority and you just might stand a chance of making it.

@lpage601 Жыл бұрын

Walmart truck drivers start at $90,000.... This doesn't make any sense...

@akbarshoed 5 ай бұрын

This is an important video! Awesome job! Thanks. Will watch again!

@sidallen685 Жыл бұрын

Both are low paying jobs.

@alelectric2767 Жыл бұрын

Take home of $53K is not a low paying job.

@lordpowell3788 Жыл бұрын

@@alelectric2767 yes it is. Anything at or below 1000$ a week after taxes is low slave wages. This was for a 6 months period so it's not bad. But anything less then 1000 a week is exploitation u will never build a future or have anything to leave your kids but the opportunity to trade time for money the same way u did.

@simbos174 Жыл бұрын

@@alelectric2767 I took home 86k I think that’s low… I’m an electrician

@laosbboie Жыл бұрын

@@simbos174 Keeping the lights on

@codym7960 Жыл бұрын

@@simbos174 he said these numbers are 6 months not full year.

@MysticalMagisters Жыл бұрын

Hey that’s pretty cool how much did the company make off those two drivers?

@tnhomestead Жыл бұрын

Ouch! Going to stop complaining about my pay, make more than both home daily, every weekend and holiday off! Make about 1200 a week for 40 hours

@nia6849 Жыл бұрын

How many days a week do you work to get 40 hours?

@tnhomestead Жыл бұрын

@@nia6849 usually 6 hours a day, 5 days. I do get 8 or 9 hour days on occasion which suck as far as I am concerned!

@kerryc.7438 7 күн бұрын

I’d be broke if I’d work for you, we’re doubling that in ny / nj not even breaking a sweat

@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News 6 күн бұрын

Congrats!

@davidspiegel5159 Жыл бұрын

This is why I left the industry. Too much time away from home and rude customers for the money

@pfernandes8982 12 күн бұрын

Company driver will sue u for workman's comp

@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News 11 күн бұрын

Workman's comp?

@MuhammadTayyab-iv4rd Жыл бұрын

No wonders this industry is at its brink to collaps…. All that hustle and stress for peanuts…..No thank you….

@clydeweaver3569 Жыл бұрын

6 month statement

@stephenmathis3299 10 ай бұрын

A truck that is generating only $227k a yr gross is only avg $4540 on 50wks. If your truck floor isn’t $7k then your running with the wrong company. I know it’s slow now but that didn’t mean you have to settle for rates that low. Pick a new industry if you have to. I drove for lease operators last two yrs: oilfield my truck wkly avg $11,400 (and it was slow), harvest $10,800, OTR $10,250. My current truck that I bought and put a driver in avg’s 9k a week van. $7k is the floor.

@jeffjustus4969 Жыл бұрын

No matter how much money you make, it’s not enough, for sacrificing your life for a truck. Don’t waste your life, or your family’s life, for a truck.

@GONZOTHETRUCKER Жыл бұрын

I have questions. 1-are both paid per mile? Or is the lease op paid %??? 2-if the lease op is paid %, what is the comparison for miles driven between both of them? I ask because as a lease op I typically run far less miles per week than a company driver for my company. But still clear higher.

@rolando4812 Жыл бұрын

This dudes a crook. Doesn't care about his drivers

@craigcp7455 10 ай бұрын

EXACT SAME THING I THOUGHT!!! IN ALL HIS VIDEOS HE TRIES TO GET DRIVERS TO BE COMPANY DRIVERS BY DEMOTIVATING THEM WITH FABRICATED EARNING - hes shit, dont ever work for his company, we truckers know such types

@benchillwell7498 Жыл бұрын

Ronen you said company driver for the first one but there's a lease deduction, how can he be company driver yet he's paying for a truck?

@squonkers762 Жыл бұрын

You can lease a truck. The company I drive for lease all their trucks so they don’t have to spend money on repairs or maintenance.

@spamspammingtom6397 Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure he just misspoke. It is pretty clear the second one is the company driver info.

@adamsaintgermain6622 Жыл бұрын

wow! i knew canadian drivers made less than usa drivers but i didn’t know it was that much

@itsallovernow2929 Жыл бұрын

The average hourly rate in the Toronto area is $23/hr. I'm lucky, I make $26/hr but I only work 5-6 hours a night. I can't stand driving through Toronto during the day. 8-12 lanes each way and still bumper to bumper from 6am to midnight or later.

@El_Borrego_Negro Жыл бұрын

@@itsallovernow2929 I remember my first part time job lol

@itsallovernow2929 Жыл бұрын

@@El_Borrego_Negro LOL, except I'm 18+ years trucking and considered full time.

@CartoonWeasel Жыл бұрын

@@itsallovernow2929 im a rookie and being paid 25/h in QC.

@CartoonWeasel Жыл бұрын

What he showed was for 6 months. Also the lease op doesnt get taxes taken off or any retirement funds of any kind. In the end, company driver is better off. He gets retirement dollars auto taken, taxes auto taken and other benefits. Lease has none and you need to pay taxes at the end of the year.

@daveed2812 Жыл бұрын

Neither are doing that great. when you think about how little the dollar buys. Also the lease operator assumes significant responsibility for what does not amount to significantly more.

@thegamingleo7503 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing us not to work for your company

@johnsteele1449 7 ай бұрын

Essentially you just told everyone do not work for your company as a company driver because that is on the low end of what they should be making. As a company truck driver from the company I drive that I bring home after taxes 110,thousand a year.

@manuelgarc9600 8 ай бұрын

Honestly a lot has to do with luck too. I seen an owner op go broke due to constant repairs on his truck and i have also met an owner op with a 2.8 million mile truck woth only one rebuild.

@kylehooker3710 Жыл бұрын

That lease operator is actually doing very well considering they're buying a truck too.

@KimoGotIt 2 ай бұрын

In 6 months…35k ain’t terrible.

@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News 2 ай бұрын

Errr, I'm not sure about that. Granted, there are people who barely make that in a year

@alexdreychan566 Жыл бұрын

35g for company driver!!! Are you nuts

@chasewilliam1902 Жыл бұрын

It's for 6 months. Do your ears work?

@alexdreychan566 Жыл бұрын

@@chasewilliam1902 my ears are working just fine

@A_Dog_Formerly_Known_As_Cat 9 ай бұрын

As a company driver, I'm at 110,000, in a full year. That company driver is not doing so great, and that lease operator is getting hosed

@zachbrust3672 5 ай бұрын

There is no way I know company drivers bringing in over $80,000 a year he is just trying to get people to lease out so the trucking company makes more.

@briangleason5597 Жыл бұрын

Thank You for you're video's. I rely appreciate you and all you do for us Driver's. Thank You.

@TurkVladimir 4 ай бұрын

Thanks Great Video Presentation Very Clear Camera Lots of information Thanks Again

@jmh4ggg 8 ай бұрын

I like how everyone in the comments section is making 150k a year, full benefits, home everynight with 1 month vacation.

@cryptek7882 8 ай бұрын

bro this company is ripping off their drivers i started driving class A last year fresh out of driver school 100k/year

@swingbag12 Жыл бұрын

You never deducted income tax from the lease operator….it’s a wash. Better to be a driver. You can keep the headache

@markpartis4167 Жыл бұрын

Was the mileage same or similar?

@chuckD87 6 ай бұрын

If this is only 6 months worth of pay not bad but if this is a year that’s absolute dog shit

@mikeHubbell 8 ай бұрын

If your only making 43k as a company driver, you need a new company, your only making 20.60 a hour

@TitusPullo08 6 күн бұрын

It would be 53 against 49 don't forget oo have to pay taxes as well.

@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News 6 күн бұрын

True!

@TitusPullo08 6 күн бұрын

@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News had to edit 53 not 43. Lol

@guruoo Жыл бұрын

Can't understand why you'd want to be a lease driver, when you could just get your own authority, and drive completely independent. Thoughts?

@Whoa532 Жыл бұрын

The difference!? Company driver gets paid! Lease driver doesn't!

@yvescarmel1765 9 ай бұрын

We are getting paid.80 cents a mile plus all extras border crossing n.y bridge switch pickup around Montreal few companies paid really good money for regional home every second night I will not do anything else good luck people make your research

@geraldbraxton2555 7 ай бұрын

No. The difference is IF THEY LIKE YOU. Nothing else you said even mattered...!

@Gman767 Жыл бұрын

Okay. Where are the taxes to be paid by the lease operator because he still has to pay taxes which will basically bring it to the same as the company driver

@elreal1342 2 ай бұрын

If you make 35 k a year as a cdl A driver get out now

@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News 2 ай бұрын

Haha, yup

@Coachplayer 24 күн бұрын

You didn’t watch the video close enough

@elreal1342 24 күн бұрын

@@Coachplayer I did is 35k for 6 months that’s 70k 1 year that’s crazy low for a OTR truck driver that’s around 1,500 weekly that’s way to low, I’m a company driver to I make 2,100 to 2,300 weekly home every week

@iraniantrucker9311 Жыл бұрын

Company driver is better than lease operator because that $53000 comes with tax with no deduction but company driver pays tax in each paycheck. I was a year lease operator at the end I paid $4500 just for my tax by $21000 net. Lease is just scam

@oscarmarquez7295 Жыл бұрын

Bro I not gonna lie u doing a good job

@carljones8306 8 ай бұрын

Leave that company… bottom of the industry when it comes to pay… what a joke 😂

@michaelleith4938 8 ай бұрын

Damn, I made 158k gross in 21-22 and 155k gross 22-23 financial years in Australia, I don’t own a truck, just drive for a small sub-contractor in Australia What’s the average for non owner drivers in the US

@curtis7599 10 ай бұрын

"Take home". If you are a local driver. I seriously doubt OTR drivers take their money "home" every week. They use it to pay bills on the road and to eat.

@daMillenialTrucker 10 ай бұрын

Bro I'm 31 years old, I have no bills outside my car, insurance, cellphone. If imma take home time I either take it at my parents house or at a friend's house. All my money gets saved 😂

@curtis7599 10 ай бұрын

@truckerrawb4895 So what you are saying is that wherever you spend "home" time is where you are taking tons of money being saved up by living in your real home on wheels on the road.

@Bama_Boy Жыл бұрын

HOW ARE PEOPLE SUPPOSE TO KNOW THE BEST OPTION WITHOUT KNOWING ALL THE DETAILS? -What was the total working hours for each driver during that 6 month period? -How many miles did each driver travel during that 6 month period? -Within that 6 month period, how many nights did each driver have to stay on the road and not get to go home? -During those 6 months, how many hours did each driver work over the weekend? -What benefits does the company driver get that the lease driver does not get? -What incentives does the company driver get that the lease driver doesn't get? -How easy and less stressful is it for the company driver during a typical work week vs how easy and less stressful is it for the lease driver during a typical work week? -Are both drivers home every single night? -Are both drivers off every single weekend? THE SIMILARITIES VS. THE DIFFERENCES

@joeseabert8391 Жыл бұрын

Let’s talk about liability. A lease operator takes on liabilities that a company driver doesn’t. That deserves compensation. Lease operator does not get paid vacation. Company driver does. Lease operator doesn’t get overtime. Company driver does. I can make over $90,000 per year working 68 hours every 6 days and be home every night. If there is no work and get sent home I’m compensated for 10 hours. Lease operator gets shit. Now a lease operator can choose loads, able to change company much faster than a company driver. Even still with 12 years experience I could get another job within 3 days snd that’s with me sleeping two days straight.

@jarrodschobert9763 Жыл бұрын

This company pays horribly evidently I haven't grossed under 60k as a company driver in over 5 years wtf are they doing starving there drivers and 115k as a lease driver sounds scary as hell seeing as my dad owned his own and was leased to a company clearing 200k a year solo