Compression fittings. How tight do I tighten them?

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dereton33

dereton33

Жыл бұрын

Always a worry, have I tightened the compression fittings enough? Will I get a leak? Will the fitting come apart when the water goes on?
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@mjf1589
@mjf1589 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for your explanation, I did 24 fittings in my new bathroom today, without any leaks! First timer!
@dereton33
@dereton33 2 ай бұрын
Great job!
@mauroaurelio6534
@mauroaurelio6534 Жыл бұрын
Excellent tips!!! I used the 1st technique and it worked!!! Thank your so much for showing. Much respect..
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@pullman5250
@pullman5250 Жыл бұрын
That’s how I do it you just just by feel really… I’ve seen fittings well to tight by looking at the olive and how it’s starting to bite so hard into the copper pipe that the pipe starts to collapse into itself . Once again thank you for the video keep um coming
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@JohnSmith-ox7xc
@JohnSmith-ox7xc Жыл бұрын
What I don't understand is why there hasn't been any torque recommendations for compression fittings from manufacturers. It would take any guess work out of these things.
@paul_my_plumbs_uk
@paul_my_plumbs_uk Жыл бұрын
You'd probably end up paying 20 times the price of the fitting for a pair of torque spanners 🙄🙄🙄💷💷💷 if they made them
@6581punk
@6581punk Жыл бұрын
A uncalibrated torque wrench or a badly calibrated one is pretty hopeless. Too tight, or not tight enough. Copper pipe can be damaged by overtightening, it will twist.
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Guys.
@belltopcone
@belltopcone Жыл бұрын
Thanks Al another handy tutorial and I`m not going to make any rude remarks about `feeling it go stiff`😂
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
That was comming. Ha ha.
@stuartlockwood9645
@stuartlockwood9645 Жыл бұрын
Hi Al and Jan ☺, good on ya mate for giving us these instructions, and demo of how to tighten a compression joint properly, all good stuff for us diy types, lol. Cheers mate, stay safe, best wishe's to you and Jan, Stuart UK.
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks and all the best to you too Stuart
@john-robinson-content-creator
@john-robinson-content-creator Жыл бұрын
Useful video as always. Always wondered why plumbers favoured adjustable spanners or grips over the correctly sized open ended spanners?
@martinwright7093
@martinwright7093 Жыл бұрын
Because there's such a variation in nut sizes in plumbing. I generally use a 24mm fixed spanner for 15 compression nuts but they don't always fit, and its the same for 22mm fittings, there's a lot of variation. On boilers and valves its a whole other story, a huge variety of sizes.. easier just to pick up one tool rather than carry a lot of fixed spanners.
@john-robinson-content-creator
@john-robinson-content-creator Жыл бұрын
@@martinwright7093 Thanks for the reply.
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Cheers for the info guys.
@nonegiven9579
@nonegiven9579 9 ай бұрын
In normal operating conditions, after hand tightening the nut, the number of turns required to form a robust joint would be: i. 10-28mm 1 turn ii. 35-54mm ¾ turn If wanted to be 100% sure you are not over or under tightening the fitting then can use a Torque wrench in conjunction with Crow's open End Spanner Set using the following settings for the relevant pipe diameters : 15mm 40Nm 22mm 60Nm 28mm 80Nm 35mm 120Nm 42mm 180Nm 54mm 240Nmn 👌
@dereton33
@dereton33 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips.
@user-go8oj4dl4w
@user-go8oj4dl4w Ай бұрын
IMO for 15mm pipe it's closer to 0.5 turn.
@pj8964
@pj8964 Жыл бұрын
I have plumbing for a while and the time I used a compression fitting it broke now was it a defect or was it overtightened who knows ... Anyhow thanks for the video Mr. Plumber keep them coming 🧐👍👍
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Will do PJ.
@markallan9528
@markallan9528 Ай бұрын
Thank you for demonstrating this!
@dereton33
@dereton33 Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@newusername23
@newusername23 Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual thanks!!
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
No problem.
@newusername23
@newusername23 Жыл бұрын
@@dereton33 once you tighten a compression fitting, is it ok to loosen it at a later date, for example to replace something? Should you put a new olive on?
@8877jazz
@8877jazz 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@dereton33
@dereton33 11 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@deemdoubleu
@deemdoubleu 3 ай бұрын
I seem to see a lot of experts putting PTFE and Boss white on these things. I am a diy'er and have never done that because I tend to read the instructions first.
@dereton33
@dereton33 3 ай бұрын
Put them in the bin where they belong.
@Mikemeshell63
@Mikemeshell63 Ай бұрын
thanks
@dereton33
@dereton33 Ай бұрын
No problem
@RailsandSky
@RailsandSky Жыл бұрын
The grips are always placed on the fitting in the opposite direction to the spanner used for tightening the nut.
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Not always, a lack of room will mean you fit it on the nut anyway you can.
@peterevans1371
@peterevans1371 3 ай бұрын
Best plumber on you tubey
@dereton33
@dereton33 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Pete.
@sebastiang7183
@sebastiang7183 11 ай бұрын
How do you deal if you find one that has been overtightened and has compressed the pipe? Do you have to cut off the compressed section of pipe until you get to a good section, or do you have other options to deal with it?
@dereton33
@dereton33 11 ай бұрын
You can cut off the end of pipe or wrap PTFE tape around it.
@christophermason7735
@christophermason7735 6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@dereton33
@dereton33 6 ай бұрын
No problem
@hosoiarchives4858
@hosoiarchives4858 5 ай бұрын
The eternal question
@dereton33
@dereton33 5 ай бұрын
Sure is.
@rajnirvan3336
@rajnirvan3336 4 ай бұрын
I prefer using adjustable spanner with water pump pliers on compression fittings
@dereton33
@dereton33 4 ай бұрын
We all have our favourite tools.
@neil_down_south
@neil_down_south 4 ай бұрын
If the fitting has been overtightened, and the pipe slightly squashed, can/should you reshape the pipe? (Swaging drill bit or something?)
@dereton33
@dereton33 4 ай бұрын
No just wrap some PTFE around the squashed bit of pipe.
@neil_down_south
@neil_down_south 4 ай бұрын
@@dereton33 wow I really didn't think that would work. Thanks!
@Wiliuz
@Wiliuz 5 ай бұрын
I dont know why on the pack of compression fittings i bought at Screwfix, it says tighten 1 full turn. Thats way too much
@dereton33
@dereton33 5 ай бұрын
Belt and braces.
@cfcyayaya
@cfcyayaya Жыл бұрын
I am still none the wiser. Please answer in the value of the torque required in Nm or the degree turn after initial nip up. You seem to hint 180 degree. Right?
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Forget Nm or torque, you have to feel it. 180% is roughly right, but might be different for other fittings.
@cfcyayaya
@cfcyayaya Жыл бұрын
@@dereton33 Compression Fittings. How tight do I tighten them? "You have to feel it." What an answer to a totally legitimate question. Can "feel" be measured and quantified? No. So I am still none the wiser.
@sergiofernandez3725
@sergiofernandez3725 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Would be good if you remove one now and show the olive
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Sure thing.
@ZenSPIKE1
@ZenSPIKE1 Жыл бұрын
You can never go back. Once you've over tightened, you've buggered it. Always ere on the side of caution. If there is a small leak using this demo, you can always tighten a tad more. If the olive gets distorted, or the copper has been collapsed, you're starting all over again.
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Or you can use a bit of PTFE tape to take up the slack around the olive.
@geoffreycasey875
@geoffreycasey875 Жыл бұрын
Are you a geezer? lol. My friend said she didn't know much about London, just that there are Geezer's in London.. 👍🇮🇪🍀
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha no not quite a Kent man originally, before moving to Devon.
@MrTrashcan1
@MrTrashcan1 3 ай бұрын
I can never get a straightforward answer to this question. I installed compression shutoff valves. One wept and the other just plain leaked. When I tightened it further it looked like it was getting worse. I took it apart an couldn't find anything wrong. Nothing deformed. Put it back together and tigntened even more--and all this just to 1/2 turn total--but that was as far as I perceived I could tighten it. No--it was not tight enough. Forced it past what I would have considered possible and that stopped the leak. I'm assuming those who overtighten simply don't know their own strength--because intuitively I would have never thought to tighten it to this degree.
@dereton33
@dereton33 3 ай бұрын
Boss white would have sealed it without being so tight.
@user-go8oj4dl4w
@user-go8oj4dl4w Ай бұрын
How many valves? If it's just one, it could have been a faulty fitting or olive, or the area of pipe was scored or damaged. Brass or copper olives?
@colinmiles1052
@colinmiles1052 Жыл бұрын
As you say, nip it up, then if it drips nip it up a bit more. If you over tighten it in the first place you've burnt your bridges!
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Too true Colin.
@damekomsk8559
@damekomsk8559 4 ай бұрын
Nice 1
@dereton33
@dereton33 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@versatec1
@versatec1 Жыл бұрын
Hi...How do you advertise for work? I know recommendation is best...just curious...there is work out there but people just dont seem to have the money to pay fairly.
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
I do not advertise for work as I am retired now. When I was working I never had to advertise it was all word of mouth.
@versatec1
@versatec1 Жыл бұрын
@@dereton33 😊👍
@mikewilkins9484
@mikewilkins9484 2 ай бұрын
My local builders has a board where traders can pin their business cards. But there are lots of online sites you can register with, or advertise on Facebook
@Chanesmyname
@Chanesmyname Жыл бұрын
Looks much smarter than push fit too. 😬
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Yes they do.
@rickjames9477
@rickjames9477 5 ай бұрын
They’re stronger then push fit too, people use the same systems on brake line and they do hold (not on my cars) but that’s 1000’s of psi.
@jayseabie215
@jayseabie215 Жыл бұрын
Never over do it once you feel it go stiff. That could result in a very bad leak 💦😂
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha .
@edthelasttribe9580
@edthelasttribe9580 Жыл бұрын
What in flip flops, 😂 I give you a best tip take bigger adjustable wrench 🔧 hold it in a middle and use smaller adjustable wrench and you can use one hand only to tighten as a leverage, your fitting not even going to move
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info
@paul_my_plumbs_uk
@paul_my_plumbs_uk Жыл бұрын
👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿Al❤️ Torque (Nm) = force X Distance 👁️👁️🤓🤓🤓
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Sounds about right Paul ha ha.
@versatec1
@versatec1 Жыл бұрын
I seem to get a lot of indian clients who want you to work for peanuts...I cant be bothered anymore...I dont even bother looking at jobs anymore, they are mostly after a free quote, I just hang.in there for the decent work, fortunately Im doing ok for money but I cant imagine how tough it must be for someone starting out, unless they want to work for a company.
@dereton33
@dereton33 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info. It is a tough world out there.
@versatec1
@versatec1 Жыл бұрын
@@dereton33 it is man...👍
@robinschell3175
@robinschell3175 6 ай бұрын
Put pipe dope on it first.
@dereton33
@dereton33 6 ай бұрын
Not always.
@peterreid4567
@peterreid4567 9 ай бұрын
Your using the wrong grips and there’s no paste. Waste of time what your showing people
@dereton33
@dereton33 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind comments.
@pauljenkinson2870
@pauljenkinson2870 5 ай бұрын
Judge a plumber . By his tools. Nice cheap grips. I'm Surprised you've got any knuckles left. From your grips slipping off your You're . Compression fittings
@dereton33
@dereton33 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the very kind comments Paul.
@user-zp6zp1cg1e
@user-zp6zp1cg1e 3 ай бұрын
Why do people always waffle on , get to the point
@dereton33
@dereton33 3 ай бұрын
Try someone else. But dont slag me off.
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