Diesel vs Hybrid Economy Test. Is the New Hybrid Worth it?

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How does the fuel economy of Toyota's "self charging" hybrid compare to an older Euro 5 diesel? Which one is more economical in town, on country roads and at 70 mph. Are petrol full hybrids really cleaner than diesel engines?
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00:00 The cars
00:52 Diesel in the City
07:20 Diesel at 70mph
11:37 Diesel on rural roads
14:01 Hybrid in the City
18:58 Hybrid at 70mph
24:50 Hybrid on rural roads
29:00 Combined results
30:57 Hybrid emissions

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@alphalupine6274 10 ай бұрын

Just passed my test this weekend! Thanks for the videos. Took me four tries so dont give up people!

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

That's fantastic news! Thank you for watching and congratulations on passing!

@henryrolt3747 10 ай бұрын

As a rule of thumb, the more a driving environment requires you to use the brakes, the greater the benefit of a hybrid. Nearly all the hybrid economy gain is from regen braking. It's why taxi drivers love them.

@khalidacosta7133 10 ай бұрын

Precisely this ^^ Otherwise, the fuel economy is far worse!!

@James28R 10 ай бұрын

no it isnt. The reason is at low city speeds and lots of starting and stopping the electric motor is far far more efficient. the regen is just the icing on the cake.

@art322 10 ай бұрын

So, this would be true for a mild hybrid where the battery is only charged from the wheels. A Toyota hybrid has several tricks it uses to help you save petrol 1. Atkinson cycle engine - gives better fuel economy but less responsive engine, so you need to add something to increase responsiveness e.g. Mazda used a supercharger when they made an Atkinson cycle car, Toyota use an electric motor for this purpose 2. The battery is charged using the engine at more efficient revs. We all know petrol cars are more efficient at higher than lower speeds. A Toyota hybrids stores energy at that higher efficiency for use at lower speeds or power output levels (below 30 hp) 3. Never idles - You'll never catch your hybrid idling if the engine is running it's for a reason - it's either a) warming itself up, b) warming you up, c) charging the battery or d) driving the wheels 4. Discourages rapid driving - they tend to feel better when you're driving moderately and not flooring it, this also helps save petrol. Some of them will even give you a score for how economically you have driven. 5. Fast warm up - electric motors control the coolant flow and there is an egr system to help the engine get up to temperature quickly 6. Regen braking - very noticeable down a long hill just how much energy you can get from regen braking. If you fill the battery going down a hill, the car will automatically switch over to engine braking and will use extra electric power after the hill to get the battery down to 80% quickly - it doesn't want to sit at 100% for long Hope this helps

@dd9ag 10 ай бұрын

Gradient plays a big part. You’ll actually get best economy on a Toyota hybrid by not braking. You can’t capture all the energy you lose so you’re better off keeping it.

@jamescaley9942 10 ай бұрын

Unfortunately the vast majority of drivers do the vast majority of mileage on motorways. In this case the hybrid is lugging the extra weight of a battery. Even in town the regen is offset by lugging the extra weight. Then there is the extra manufacturing cost and complexity. The biggest economy benefit of hybrids is on paper.

@codyashman1708 10 ай бұрын

Your partner got a nice upgrade!

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

I think so too!

@robertocurrlos7470 10 ай бұрын

It's a 2023 car. Can't go wrong😊 but I'm glad you chose Toyota. Best upgrade for economy and engine

@maksymfedoriaka2851 10 ай бұрын

These videos are great, very in-depth. Congrats to the GF on the Corolla, it's a nice car, hope it serves her well

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@oleksiikovalenko8544 10 ай бұрын

Nice video, thanks Richard. As an owner of a 2013 citroen of the same model and engine I can confirm that it's super economical on highway at sustained speeds

@RikAindow 10 ай бұрын

Is yours also an automatic? How do you like it? Is it smooth? Genuinely curious as I've heard some say they're an automated manual and not too smooth..

@oleksiikovalenko8544 10 ай бұрын

@RikAindow mine is the "robotic" one - a manual gearbox equipped with robotic parts (I think Richard's car in the video has got the same). What you heard is true: for the most part, it it not very smooth (especially in the lower gears) and can be slow to change. In some cases, it could be in the wrong gear, too. I can live with it because i am a relatively new driver and it's my first car :) but I probably would not recommend it, especially for experienced drivers.

@RikAindow 10 ай бұрын

@oleksiikovalenko8544 thanks for replying. I still think they're a nice looking car.

@oleksiikovalenko8544 10 ай бұрын

@RikAindow I totally agree with you - the design was actually one of the reasons why I bought it :)

@gravemind6536 9 ай бұрын

They are but the thing is the gap in efficency between petrol and diesel has narrowed big time. A modern petrol now has many of the driving charecteristics of a diesel too. I have a Toyota Auris with a 1.2T petrol engine and it gets mid to high 50s on MPG going down the motorway and it does it quietly too. I know a diesel will easily get anywhere between 60-70mpg but I can live with being a few mpg lower on a run just for the refinement and smoothness of the engine and not having things like DPFs, Adblue and EGR valves and sensors that can break. In a city it makes little to no difference on fuel economy whether I drive diesel or petrol either in fact on shorter runs in colder weather the petrol is more efficent because it heats up quicker.

@Grahamvfr 10 ай бұрын

Absolutely brilliant real world comparison, thank you for the effort and clarity Richard.

@art322 10 ай бұрын

My partner has a 2019 corolla which she upgraded to from a 2008 diesel avensis. I have a 2012 prius. Absolutely everything you say in this video is true! Or at least I can say my experience matches yours exactly. I can also add that in the case of the Prius it’s very nice (and weird) to own an 11 year old car that still has 4 year’s warranty on the hybrid system. I always look forward to your videos, and this was an especially good one, thanks!

@sajpan6018 10 ай бұрын

hey man i just want to tell i was terrified of driving and because if you in 6 months yesterday i was able to just pick up the keys and drive for the first time and all goes back to you and your videos i love them never stop foing them please ❤️❤️

@fairsaa7975 10 ай бұрын

Been enjoying these types of videos, excited to watch!

@christiansills7827 10 ай бұрын

I have a 2022 71-plate Corolla Touring Sports (estate), which I bought to use as a taxi. It has the previous Gen 4 hybrid system, with the 1.8 litre 122bhp engine. Today, so far, I've done 53 miles, and the mpg meter is reading 69.1mpg. The best fuel economy I've ever seen across a full shift is 74.7mpg, which was a day of long straight roads, with the worst being 48.7mpg on a very cold winter's day in stop start traffic with the heater and heated seats on. Typically, I don't often see less than 53mpg in the winter months and not usually less than 62mpg during the summer months on a combined cycle. If you can get over the noisy CVT gearbox when you accelerate, these Toyota hybrids are brilliant.

@iainansell5930 7 ай бұрын

and the 2litre is quite quick aswell :) quite fun to drive

@chesterlester5770 10 ай бұрын

The intro reminded me of the old top gear 🤣 Thanks for helping me pass in February!!

@sensiblewheels 9 ай бұрын

I really loved this one! I was unaware that you're an enthusiast because I've only seen your driver safety videos (And I love them too). Definitely going to follow your channel more closely for the quality content just like this!

@davidpicard5376 9 ай бұрын

That is phenomenal. This was more informative than many others on this medium. A thoughtful and informative spiel. Great huge thumbs Up 👍👍👍

@dimitri9496 10 ай бұрын

I just wanna say thanks, I recently passed my test with 0 faults, and a lot of it has to do with watching and learning from your videos. Even though I'm from Australia these videos were still incredibly useful and relevant for passing the test. You're a legend keep doing what you're doing.

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

That's fantastic news! Thank you for watching and congratulations on passing!

@irvinewayne4086 9 ай бұрын

I want a diesel hybrid! It will have a combined 3.5l/100km!!! @@ConquerDriving

@fix-and-drive-diy-repairs 9 ай бұрын

@irvinewayne4086 they don't make them because they will be too economical. If that corolla hybrid had a 1.6hdi engine in it, it would be extremely economical, over 100mpg would be possible because diesel engine can handle heavy loads no problem. Hybrid petrol is a sad story, I already owned one in my channel.

@Sunshrine2 8 ай бұрын

@@fix-and-drive-diy-repairs Haha. No. Diesel hates short ways and cold starts - precisely what a petrol engine has to survive when paired with an electric engine. It would wear heavily during city runs and would likely fail under this duress soon after 100 000 km (especially the High-pressure Direct Injection - "HDI"). There is a reason behind the pidly 1.8 L petrol engine with just 98 hp - indirect petrol injection and very simple construction, no DPF, no turbo. Also, there is no need for the excessive torque of diesels, which would just need better and larger gearbox... Of course, the HDI + el. eng. might sound interesting for highways.... but... why the "+ el. eng.", then? TL;DR: There is a good reason behind pairing petrol and hybrid engines.

@fix-and-drive-diy-repairs 8 ай бұрын

@Sunshrine2 I owned both toyota prius plug-in hybrid and citroen c4 1.6hdi. I am a taxi driver. Fuel cost is the number one expense I have to reduce to survive. Citroen is the best car I've ever used as a taxi not the hybrid. Check videos I made about my prius 5 years ago! The hybrid was a disaster for me. I even built a bigger battery with a tesla module to try to cut costs but it was useless. I am speaking from experience.

@SDav21 10 ай бұрын

The Citroen is old but still looks modern next to the Toyota. I loved that Citroen.

@msg9434 10 ай бұрын

Citroën looks more modern? Are you serious

@SDav21 10 ай бұрын

@@msg9434 I didn't say MORE modern. I just said it still looks modern. As in it doesn't look like it's 12 years old.

@RikAindow 10 ай бұрын

This model of C4 did age quite well and was made for a good number of years. I had a brand new one as a rental car for my trip to Italy in 2015. It was a 1.6 diesel, but manual. Handled the trip very well, was comfortable on the longer trip and kept up with motorway traffic nicely, all whilst doing over 60mpg on the longer run between Rome and Venice. Great car.

@lesleywillis6177 8 ай бұрын

It’s French, I’d rather walk!

@michaelarchangel1163 10 ай бұрын

My 1997 Peugeot 306 1.9 TDLX has a smidge over half a tank of diesel remaining, after I brimmed it literally to the very top of the neck last time and has done 384 miles on almost 6.6 gallons. That's 58 MPG, all local, for shopping etc. The only minus aspect is road tax of £325 a year, which is an increase of £30 over last year. The car weighs about 1135 kg. The only evap worry is from my sweating forehead, as it's a non air con car.

@khalidacosta7133 10 ай бұрын

Then you should know the 306's fuel tank.. first half lasts for ages... the latter half... not so much! I averaged 56mpg in my 306 2.0 HDi over 100k miles (yep, you read that right) as fuel receipts were tracked due to business use.

@michaelarchangel1163 10 ай бұрын

@@khalidacosta7133 When standard, I only averaged 46 MPG but had a chap fettle the turbo wastegate, then fitted a freeflow air filter and exhaust, also turning up the main fuelling screw and winding back the low speed vacuum bladder compensator a bit at the same time. It's quite amazing how a turbo that kicks in at 1,500 instead of the OE setting of 2,200 RPM improved the economy. Not at constant full pelt, obviously. I dare say your HDi would've been even better if you'd had it remapped etc. I actually did have that done for my motorbike, couldn't do a home tune with that, but got an MPG boost from 42 to 48 MPG there. It does run about 4 degrees Centigrade hotter though, but there's no sign of lean burning on the plugs, so it shouldn't compromise longevity. Famous last words !

@khalidacosta7133 10 ай бұрын

@@michaelarchangel1163 Most likely the turbo was set to kick in at 2200 rpm due to needing to meet emissions. Mechanical fueling means it can't adjust the fuelling as accurately and excess air produces more NOx. During the latter half of it's life, it was remapped to 120-130bhp :) Now got a 407 Coupe with the 2.0 HDi, I get 56mpg out of that stock... somehow for a 1.7 tonne barge!

@michaelarchangel1163 10 ай бұрын

@@khalidacosta7133 That's a very luxurious car you have there. Sadly, my garage is too small for more than a small car alongside the bike. I do have a Bosch fuel pump and ancillaries as spares and replacements for the Lucas, just in case diesel prices go through the roof and if I may wish to be able to get a veg oil conversion. All's good at the mo though and at 83,000 miles I'll leave it well alone. All the best to you.

@andrewwaller5913 10 ай бұрын

Just open the window, free old school air con !

@iSniffTheFarties 10 ай бұрын

Just passed my test today with 3 minors. Thank you so much for your videos, it has been like having a second instructor! Much love 🙏🏻❤️

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

That's fantastic news! Thank you for watching and congratulations on passing!

@johnkeepin7527 10 ай бұрын

Good to see the tests done with both types, and in particular the latest Corolla hybrid. I now run the current Yaris hybrid, which to a large degree is very similar, albeit smaller - better than the previous Yaris. The Corolla is made in Derby, with the engines in North Wales, whereas the Yaris is assembled in Valenciennes, northern France. Years ago, the last diesel I ran was a Honda Civic with the 1.6l engine, which was the most efficient one I had, at least for long runs. It did well at higher speeds, because it had lots of tweaks to drag down the aerodynamic resistance - even low ground clearance (not nice on rough surfaces, though), sealed doors, other minor items etc, and it had the Michelin “energy saver” tyres on. On account of all that, it just came under the zero road tax figure on test (when there was zero tax below 100 g/km, to encourage the use of modern diesel engines, in 2013). In round numbers, at higher speeds about two thirds of the resistance is down to air resistance, with the other third being down to wheel resistance, with that bit being variable with the tyre products. Thus the latter bit is more important at lower speeds. I often do day trips that are affected by the wind direction - east/west typically, which is quite noticeable on the trip meter display. So a 30 mph headwind at 70 mph is like 100 mph on a calm day. The best figure I had was with a named storm behind me one day! The confounding factor when comparing diesel with petrol thermal efficiency is, of course, the notably different thermal content of the two. It’s roughly 9.7 kWh/litre for E10 petrol, and 10.7 kWh/litre for diesel. Of course, the excise duty is per unit volume, not energy content, so the less we get, the more we pay (with VAT on top), although petrol is often a bit cheaper per litre than diesel, depending on the season.

@TollyTolly 6 ай бұрын

I have yaris 2015, hybrid. Tbh feels like worst car I had.

@matthewjones9733 9 ай бұрын

I have a Toyota Corolla 1.8 hybrid . I bought it in September 2021 and I have found it to be very economical and also a great drive .I enjoyed watching this video . Thanks

@l4p4k1 9 ай бұрын

Love the fact you already knew you were going to record the 2 car shot later yet mentioned it before haha

@Xenon777_ 10 ай бұрын

One of our 1.4 tdci cars gets around 64 MPG doing 30 miles a day on a range of speed limit roads. It is manual, no DPF or stop start either.

@PhoenixsWorldVideos 10 ай бұрын

That is so nutty. I have to drive the 2nd gen prius like a nerd to keep it over 50mpg

@Undisputed_King 9 ай бұрын

Bet the emissions would trigger the ulez cameras

@yowhaatsup 9 ай бұрын

What car?

@OrangeUp 9 ай бұрын

@@yowhaatsupProbably Ford Fiesta.

@iainansell5930 7 ай бұрын

@@PhoenixsWorldVideos the hybrids have come along way though since..

@marijankagerkoren1400 9 ай бұрын

I own an 2012 Auris Hybrid and it is the best car I ever owned. It's very reliable, reasonably comfortable, easy to drive and extremely economical. Low maintenance combined with low running costs hits at least my spot... we have driven this car across Europe and it has 240.000 km on the clock and I use it as a daily driver to work and back. Little to no problems at all. It's on its second set of brakes, first hybrid battery, had to change the AC cooler last year and a stabi rod on the suspension and that's it. Rust is no issue so far and the car is holding up pretty good for its age and mileage. Fuel consumption is around 4 to 4.7 liters per 100km depending on the road conditions. In the city one can achieve figures below 3.5l/100km, on country roads around 4.2l/100km and.on a motorway app 5.5l 30:22 /100km. I will drive this car until it dies on me, no need for something else and my next car is either a corolla 1.8 or a RAV4 hybrid.

@SergioGarcia-jg3yy 7 ай бұрын

Very informative and deep video! Congratulations!

@ciudadanomadrileno6643 9 ай бұрын

Congratulations for your video. As an owner of a Corolla 140H I completely agree with your comments. I love driving it in any condition as it always provides the best driving experience (for me) in terms of efficiency, response, etc.

@ivansa9669 7 ай бұрын

Excellent video. You have one new subscriber.

@rasch19785 9 ай бұрын

Good job on using all common units of fuel consumption measurement 👍

@bennewton3560 10 ай бұрын

Hi Ritchard Id love to see you do some diy car reapir and maintinace content on your other channel I can tell you are really enthusiatcic and knowledgable about cars and me and many others would love to see it!

@kostas1003 10 ай бұрын

Well done, thank you!

@cicnos13 6 ай бұрын

Very useful video . I will keep my diesel since i drive 90% of the time on highway

@WolvesInferno 5 ай бұрын

Great video as usual Richard. I have a late 2012 Toyota Auris Hybrid, and even in this cold weather, I'm getting between 64 to 74 mpg. My commute to work is fairly short. But even on the open roads doing about 60 mph, I get well over 70 mpg, sometimes even over 80 mpg! I do have a very light foot though.

@William-Anderson 10 ай бұрын

Tuesday 27th June - 6 weeks and 6 days ago! The early days of summer, I miss those days. 😀

@javierckyip 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for doing this very scientific and rigorous experiment.

@johnsummers9790 8 ай бұрын

Having just bought a brand new Hybrid Corolla I thought I would have a look at this video. I have now come across this reviewer quite a few times and find his information and presentation excellent.

@mibo747 5 ай бұрын

Amazing attention to details.

@peacem8574 10 ай бұрын

The corolla will be my next car. How it can just sip fuel is incredible.

@oliverdewen1632 10 ай бұрын

Great video . From experience of new cars, after 3000, 5000 miles the economy should improve as the car beds in.

@Nolimitgang999 10 ай бұрын

I wanna congratulate you for the great choice of your new car, Toyota hybrids are unmatched

@robc8593 8 ай бұрын

Great bit of research, I did anticipate the results - One thing you didn't mention is the fact diesel is more expensive too so if you compare the running cost of those mpg the hybrid/diesel differential widens even further. Its then an open and shut case hybrid win.

@lce124 9 ай бұрын

I have a 2013 Lexus GS450h with an older version on Toyotas hybrid system, it amazes me how good on fuel it is. Even though it is still a 3.5 V6 i can easily manage high 40s on a run, ive even seen over 50mpg on a steady run.

@mariemccann5895 10 ай бұрын

So as most electric cars don't have gears, does that mean if I pass my test in an electric car I can only drive automatics?

@chad9711 10 ай бұрын

yes

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

Yes, if you pass without a clutch pedal you can only drive cars without a clutch pedal.

@SK-pg9mi 8 ай бұрын

great video!!

@V_2077 10 ай бұрын

Just passed today! Thanks for the videos. Does anyone else feel like they aren't good enough even though they passed 😂

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

Congratulations on passing! You will likely feel more confident with practice. It's best to start driving as soon as you can after passing the test.

@brianfeely9239 9 ай бұрын

Good work. Thank you

@jorgemtds 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for putting the "L/100Km" info. That's what we use here in Portugal.

@lawrencedale7387 5 ай бұрын

Great video. You didn't mention what mode you were driving in. Eco, normal or sport.

@hgerfgr9614 10 ай бұрын

It's my turn to say thank you for all the help from your videos! Passed today first time with 4 minors, thought for sure I'd failed haha, will continue to watch and learn!

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

That's great to hear! Thank you for watching and congratulations on passing!

@Sairus. 9 ай бұрын

That's a really good in-depth review of Toyota's Hybrid system VS diesel * One thing worth mentioning is that diesel cars is not ideal for people who looking for do short journeys or drive it in cities as the DPF system will get clogged* it's best for long journeys and motorways

@stevenclarke5606 10 ай бұрын

My previous car was a Vauxhall Insignia sports tourer ( Estate) 2.0 Diesel ( Manual Transmission ) and I regularly make a journey from Staffordshire to Norwich a distance of 175 miles and as long as I stayed within the speed limit I was able to get 66 mpg . I now have a Vauxhall Mokka 1.4 t petrol ( Automatic Transmission ) and doing the same journey I can only get 45 mpg .

@michal88gno 9 ай бұрын

How about driving this C4 with robotized automatic gearbox? Once I wanted to buy 3008 with this system but in the end I decided into 2.0HDI with 6speed hydrokinetic. Am I right they combined 1,6HDi just with robotized manual, when it comes to automat.

@micheals1992 10 ай бұрын

I dont think its entirely fair that the dual carriageway/motorway is emptier in the hybrids test even if the speed is the same as when you're around traffic on a fast road like a dual carriageway or motorway it creates allot of turbulance and air movement in the direction of travel. Larger vehicles can also shield you from the full brunt of the wind. I know in my car gets about 65mpg at 60mph on an empty motorway, on a fairy busy but flowing motorway it can get 77mpg at 60mph.

@dmc6617 10 ай бұрын

Man, that s not city driving. It s a joke of a traffic. I see the roads are almost empty. Test it in stop and go traffic, that s actual city driving. My 2.0 TDI CC consumes 11-12 l/km in heavy traffic. I recently took a Toyota Prius in an Uber at asked the driver how was his gas consumption. Bearing in mind that the driving conditions were the same, crowded as usual, his car reached around 5l/100kms. Basicly half of a typical 2.0 TDI and even more compared to bigger engines.

@Kraven83 9 ай бұрын

That peugeot-citroen 1.5L diesel engine was a marvel of efficiency. I owned the previous C4 model (the coupe one): coupled with the insane aero and light weight it had excellent fuel economy especially on the motorway. Pity that the 90hp version didn't have a sixth gear.

@AmaanKhan-te8ll 9 ай бұрын

Diesal engines are usually more efficient in lower gears ,for example, in 30 mph zone, you would be in 4th gear in a diesal but be 6th gear for petrol.

@adiosm57 9 ай бұрын

1.6 liter turbo for my case. I drove peugeot 208 in my town, having a lot of elevations and heavy traffic. Stop and go including the huge capacity to start the engine again without hitting the battery, I was so impressed on its insane level of efficiency. I miss it but I moved on to Clio mk 4 because it's the only option I can have in this crazy Hyundai's kindom.

@TheCrankshaftRotator 8 ай бұрын

Very interesting! You seems to know, what you're talking about, which is quite rare these days in my opinion. One question: My experience is, that the accuracy of the trip computer is different, depending on how I drive. In my car (BMW 523i E39). It is very precise, when driving without cold starts. But when cold starts occurs, the accuracy becomes bad, about 0,5 ltrs/100 km. Is this also your experience, and how you included it?

@rainfadeaway1305 7 ай бұрын

Hi Richard - Good evening, What's your view on C4 diesel, are they reliable and cheap to maintain ? Would appreciate your response. Thanks

@MrWestcliffe 9 ай бұрын

12 year old Diesel ( with 136k miles on the clock) vs brand new Hybrid. OMG. And yet not a lot of difference...apart from their current purchase prices approx. 2k vs 32k! The old banger still running good, but not very clean for sure. Next time please compare the 23 cars for more relevant result. Cheers

@barry5138 5 ай бұрын

Had the same thought. While fuel costs may be similar, there's a few tank fulls in 25k purchase price!

@smollguy68 10 ай бұрын

My brother's Seat Leon from 2001 1.9tdi after chiptuning goes 3.6l/100km on a highway and I know it's a highway so revs are low but still that's really good

@josephmarsh8235 10 ай бұрын

I do think this was an excellent test Richard. Toyota really do prove they do an excellent job with their petrol hybrids, and its no wonder the Toyota Corolla, not just the estate but all the different body styles, are best selling cars worldwide. About the end of the video where you mentioned about channel 4 with the hybrids emitting more harmful gases than diesel is interesting to me too, and also I find some emissions regulations a bit strange. For example, my Ford, with a 2.0 diesel, is Euro 6, but unlike most Euro 6 diesels it doesn't use adblue. I was told by the dealer Ford was late to bringing adblue, but its strange to me how it's Euro 6 compliant. I dont know much about emissions and how they work much. I do care a lot about fuel economy, and there was one thing about the Corolla and Citroen. I don't know their drag coefficients, but sometimes longer, lower ground cars are usually better efficient than small hatchbacks, because they are more like a tear drop, than a box shape. I don't know if thats the case, but I just learned it from videos online by car channels and social media. Whats your thoughts? Loved your video by the way, its great

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

I don't know the drag co efficency of the Citroen but the Corolla estate and hatchback have the same.

@luckas1234321 10 ай бұрын

To my understanding, the Fords use DPF (diesel particulate filters) to keep the emissions standards in line with euro 6.

@josephmarsh8235 10 ай бұрын

@@luckas1234321 it does make sense with a DPF, because my Ford has one, but I've found other cars with both DPF and adblue, including new Ford's. For example, I found VW used both to meet Euro 6. That's why I get a bit confused with Euro 6, and unlike petrols, Euro 6 is very strict for diesel, especially in ULEZ, because you only need a Euro 4 petrol car, or Euro 3 motorcycle, to be compliant. On the other hand, diesel has to be Euro 6.

@micheals1992 10 ай бұрын

@@josephmarsh8235I know the older Hyundai Ioniq is one of the most efficient EVs. It's a similar shape to a Toyota Prius. But it can do 150 miles with a 28kwh battery pack. The Nissan leaf does 104 miles with a 30kwh battery pack. The Ioniq 6 is supposed to be even more efficient. The Ioniq 5 is a hatchback and is less efficient then the original Ioniq.

@josephmarsh8235 10 ай бұрын

@@micheals1992 makes sense. There could be a number of reasons, especially with weight, driving, tyre pressures, batteries, engines and more. I just learnt a lot online through car channels like Donut Media, Carwow, Top Gear and my favourite online mechanic Scotty Kilmer.

@corstian_ 10 ай бұрын

Would like a review of the new car after you owned it for a bit! Nice video

@quinnobi42 10 ай бұрын

The trip computer on my car is always 100% accurate. Because it doesn't have a trip computer. I just work out the economy myself from the pump and miles. (well actually Fuelly does that for me but...)

@ksrele 10 ай бұрын

20 deg C in a car is too low, aren't you freezing? I put mine at around 25 degC both in winter (outside temp is around 0 degC sometimes goes below) and in summer (outside temp is around 35 sometimes 40 degC)

@Drew-Dastardly 10 ай бұрын

Are you female? It's pretty well established that women like warmer environments than men. I personally hate temperatures above 20C. I guess it is my metabolism. GF's treat me as a human hot water bottle / electric blanket in the winter 😉

@ksrele 10 ай бұрын

@@Drew-Dastardly No, I'm a man but it doesn't matter because 20°C is low. But I think that because on UK there is not so hot like in my country (Serbia) so we like it little bit wormer. And it is not healthy to have very big temperature difference between outside and inside. Max 5-10°C difference. For example this days temps here are around 35°C so it is OK to set AC to 25°C and thst is max. If you set it to lower than that imagine the shock when you go outside on 40°C in the street (it is 35°C in shades).

@Drew-Dastardly 10 ай бұрын

I will say in the UK it is not just the temperature, but especially the humidity. We are an island and it gets very humid which is horrible. A dry heat can be 10C hotter than a wet heat and be fine.

@ksrele 10 ай бұрын

@@Drew-Dastardly It is humid in Serbia too, maybe not so much like where you are but it is not dry like in Egipt :D , but we are used to that kind of climate like you are to your's. Back to topic, car will use more fuel if you set the AC to the very low temps in summer, but it will use the same amount of fuel to heat in winter. EVs, in the other hand, will use more energy to heat in winter then to cool in summer ;)

@martinwoodworth3715 8 ай бұрын

I had a Citroen C3 1.4 diesel for over 17 years & traded it in for a new Suzuki 1.2 soft hybrid Ignis last March. They both did about 70 mpg. So what I want is a hybrid diesel so may get 100 mpg then 😁

@MarkThor_11 9 ай бұрын

Nice scenic drives around Essex

@Bodga 8 ай бұрын

I’ve had a 70 reg Corolla Design spec from new. It has now covered 62k the total average is 59.4 mpg however, my boot is always full of work tools etc. this figure will lower during the winter months and increase as we approach the summer. It also has the adaptive cruise as shown that works really well in traffic.

@fix-and-drive-diy-repairs 9 ай бұрын

Taxi drivers get around 50mpg because of heavy loads, rushing, and get even less mpg if they do a lot of airport runs! Hybrids don't like steep hills and heavy loads!

@erdemgulcin5474 9 ай бұрын

I too have a Corolla Hybrid (sedan). Trip computer calculates the fuel economy very precisely but the claimed range is too far off. Last time my dad got down to almost 5km claimed range and only got 36 litres of fuel (43 litre tank) from the station. I am curious if this is the case for only me

@Oleg-fp9hn 8 ай бұрын

take both cars hybrid and diesel from 2011 and compare in 2023. do you think it is fare compare new car and 12 year old one?

@czarliw1644 9 ай бұрын

Świetny test! 😀👍

@petermoses8518 9 ай бұрын

Now, this is just the amount of fuel. In our country diesel is cheaper than petrol, so it almost evens out if calculated in money instead of liters. On top of that, the older diesel is much less capital lying on the road, so financially, the diesel is far better off. A stronger version of this diesel engine would have had a better torque and thus an even better mileage.

@Vinni-2K 9 ай бұрын

my cars trip computer is like 50% inaccurate lol was this a normal thing back in the 2000s or do i need to get it checked

@MichaelFlatman 10 ай бұрын

Did you tune the vx220 yourself? Or at least tweak the fuel tables yourself. cars with ITBs must be quite difficult to tune, do you just rely on throttle position sensor? I'd love to get into tweaking/tuning.. I've got more experience with diesels. I feel like without a rolling road you'd not get a reliable way to test things though.

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

I got the base set up from a tuner using a rolling road. I spent many months maybe even a year tweaking the setup. Especially for different weather conditions. It would have been easier with an electronic throttle as the cable would stretch and due to it's location would get a bit wet meaning it rusted and got sticky. It taught me to appreciate factory setups and all the effort that goes into making them reliable. Probably my last modified car.

@90Rido 5 ай бұрын

I have a question is the 2.0L engine having biggher engine and more hp consume less?? or they are on about the same ??

@nicholasriley3569 10 ай бұрын

Toyota Hybrids are very efficient and reliable. That's why virtually every Uber etc car is a Toyota Hybrid. Other car manufacturers are not nearly so good. As you pointed out there are various forms of 'Hybrid' technology and I think that Dispatches Documentary may have been looking at some of the less efficient cars on the market that don't perform as claimed.

@Henry_Jr_Watsson 9 ай бұрын

Yep! Only the DC/DC convertor tends to break during the warranty period. Mine broke too on my ~5 year old Corolla Hybrid with ~90k km, but got fixed for free at the dealer. It's a 2k Euro component excluding labor though haha.

@RedPanda_00806 9 ай бұрын

In Spain Uber is about 70% hyundai ioniq, 29% corolla and 1% Fiat Tipo and Ford Mondeo

@shaneleslie8968 7 ай бұрын

How can you tell it’s doing a dpf regen? I think this will effect fuel economy

@haoding9076 9 ай бұрын

so the question would be does the saving from Hybrid would be cover the extra maintenance cost compare to diesel car?

@jpscsa Ай бұрын

Could you also compare maintenance costs?

@jimmychin8313 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for such an interesting video. I know that you would have checked the tire pressures on both cars before your tests, would be nice if you mentioned it. Also the level of the traction battery in the hybrid at the start and end of each test would indicate possible economy variance. The aircon for both cars would add more discrepancies as their operations are totally different. Maybe best to test with them off on a cool day when heating and cooling are not needed. Would love to see another economy test of the Corolla in the winter.

@dd9ag 10 ай бұрын

I drive a rav 4 hybrid awd 2020, get about 600-650 miles out of 49l e10 unleaded in summer. I coldest winter months can drop to about 520 miles out of the same amount of fuel. This will happen between about December and February.

@dd9ag 9 ай бұрын

@@andersriksson100 yes not nautical miles.

@andersriksson100 9 ай бұрын

@@dd9ag 😄😄 good one! I had gallons in my head when I asked... 600-650 nautical miles would be awsome, however not to be expected. 600-650 miles is still impressive for a SUV!

@dd9ag 9 ай бұрын

@@andersriksson100 i was thinking are there some other kind of miles I’m not aware of lol!

@barsorrro 10 ай бұрын

Great video -- as always, impressive dilligence and methodic approach. Also, your narrative is clear, informative and straightforward, and yet it's very pleasant and engaging to listen to. Congratulations for the car -- it does look like a great, modern, advanced and very sensible market offer. I have nothing particularly wise to say about that, apparently rather sensationalist, documentary you mention towards the end of the video, but one may wonder why the petrol engines employed in hybrid-powered cars should produce more dangerous polution than other combustion engines. On the face of it, it doesn't make any sense, since in such setting the engine gets to work in its optimum rev range the most often, and engines, I believe, tend to produce less toxic exhaust (and one most efficiently dealt with by the catalytic converter) when they are at their optimum revs and load. So, unless the "trickery" involved in the Atkinson cycle may lead to different emission characteristics than those of a regular petrol engine (which, admittedly, it may), it would indeed appear quite incredible.

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

I was thinking that the Atkinson cycle may change things but I don't know.

@MichaelFlatman 10 ай бұрын

I feel like most concerns for hybrid emissions are based on times where you put your foot down and wake up a cold engine and have it deliver near full throttle without it warming up. Older cars used to run rich on startup but direct injection and heated O2 sensors probably minimise this a lot. + I think some hybrid cars preheat the engine.. Hopefully reduces any engine wear from cold thrashing.

@nidjo057 10 ай бұрын

Finally, a reviewer who understands how Toyota hybrid works

@MarkPMus 10 ай бұрын

Hastings to Colchester! I love both places! Will we be seeing a video of your adventures in Hastings?

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

No video of Hastings, I was there with my other half for the day.

@Ethan7_7 10 ай бұрын

This light at 4:53 makes no sense to me, whyd one put lights at an exit of a roundabout?

@durgymp 9 ай бұрын

It would be also interesting to compare things such as service costs and reliability. For example Toyotas are known to be bullet proof, unlike Citroen that doesn't have as good reputation on reliability long term. Hybrids do not have any big maintenance works other than various fluid changes and health-checkup for the hybrid system (including battery).

@pelocitdarney5718 8 ай бұрын

Elephant race! (8:50). That's the first time I've heard a truck on truck dual carriageway race called that.

@daviemac9925 10 ай бұрын

That's a lovely car Richard! Your other half sounds a bit like me, I admit to being a nervous driver and used to let my other half do most of the driving especially the motorways. Just me now so I have to do it all, I don't want to be a nuisance to my Children they're all busy getting on with their lives, I'm not as bad as I was though.

@gchan2669 10 ай бұрын

Really interesting video as always! May I ask whether you mainly drove the Toyota hybrid in “B” or “D” mode? I’ve been driving a full hybrid for a few months now and haven’t quite worked out which is more fuel efficient due to seasonal temps impacting my tests. I think driving in “D” mode as standard (only switching to “B” when going downhill) is proving more fuel efficient but the debate rages online with regards to whether keeping the car in “B” over “D” makes a difference (increased regenerative breaking vs coasting). Is this something that you’d consider testing?

@NEXUSsS11 10 ай бұрын

As an almost 2 year Toyota Hybrid owner, I keep it in "D" and only use "B" when going downhill. I think even in the manual it specifies that "B" mode should only be used downhill. I believe it uses more regen braking but also some interesting Toyota designed engine revving to make the car slow down harder without putting on brakes, so it should be less efficient when used in other places.

@gchan2669 10 ай бұрын

@@NEXUSsS11Thanks! The manual also advises using “B” for the downhill but I’m not especially mechanically minded so have just been testing and lurking on car forums to try and understand why. Will continue to drive in “D”!

@gchan2669 10 ай бұрын

Just had a closer look at the hybrid’s driver display and realised that Richard was in D. Question answered, should have paid closer attention 🤦🏻‍♀️

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

As far as I'm aware B mode should only be used downhill. I think using it all the time decreases the efficiency of the system because less of the kinetic energy goes into recharging the battery when you're slowing down. However, I could be wrong.

@gertfredrikson4584 7 ай бұрын

B is to be used for engine breaking while driving downhill past the point when the battery can't take any more regen energy. Otherwise you will have to use regular breaking to keep the speed down.

@fix-and-drive-diy-repairs 9 ай бұрын

2023hybrid euro6 vs 2011 diesel euro5? Fair comparison? Next time, compare same age! 1.6hdi, absolutely amazing economy. I have 2 now. As a taxi driver, I owned both prius plug in and 1.6hdi. My verdict, as a taxi driver, Citroen is better. Cheap to buy, cheap to maintain, good economy(800 miles from a tank). All this is in my channel. I just paid less than 5k for a 2016 Citroen c4 grand Picasso 1.6hdi. A 2016 toyota prius/auris/corola hybrid would cost ~£15k~£20k. It doesn't make any sense for me! I am staying with Citroen until 2035 or later.

@ianfrost3529 10 ай бұрын

Years ago I did something similar. My grandad brought is first hybrid it was a Toyota Prius 56 plate. My dad had a VW Bora tdi 130 sport. We found the Prius to be more economical around town but the bora was much more economical on a run. So it looks like it’s still the same as before you need to look at the type of driving you do and pick the type of car that suits your needs. Me and my wife have gone down to one car we did have a seat Altea 2.0tdi dsg and a Toyota Yaris 1.33 MMT We kept the Toyota because cheaper road tax around town the economy where most the driving is done the Toyota was more economical. A roads very similar it was only on long motorway journeys that the diesel would be a lot more economical and you were looking at nearly 20 mpg difference. But it’s rare to do such long trips.

@RennieAsh 8 ай бұрын

I prefer litres per hundred as a 20mpg difference at 50-70mpg is smaller than a 20mpg difference at 20-40mpg.

@ianfrost3529 8 ай бұрын

@@RennieAsh 20 mpg is 14.1 litres per 100

@iainansell5930 7 ай бұрын

but then, if diesel is more expensive, wouldn't that negate the better mileage?

@ianfrost3529 7 ай бұрын

Still not enough to warrant buying one if you were doing lots of motorway miles. If you do lots of town driving the hybrid wins hands down

@arsena1978 9 ай бұрын

We have a Honda Jazz Cross Hybrid. Excellent car, very relaxing drive with full aids and assists. We decided on it over the Corolla due to the larger interior space (especially the rear seats) although the boot isn’t the largest. Currently averaging around 65mpg on short runs, but has been upto 70 on longer country runs and down to 60 on motorway jaunts.

@jacobthompson8507 10 ай бұрын

5:33 Genuinely interested… I’ve got an Audi A3 and i’ve had it from brand new. Every single time the car starts (unless engine has been on just minutes prior) it idles about 200-300 rpms higher than normal for around 40 seconds. I know there’s nothing wrong with the car because i’ve got 2 family members with the same engine in their VW group cars, and those cars do the same. It also sounds quite loud and noisy (even if the engine is warm) and it does not sound like this once it’s finished this “start up cycle” Because of this, I have sat for 40 secs idling every time i have turned the car on, because for some reason it feels wrong for me to start driving whilst it does this. Does it actually do no damage?

@khalidacosta7133 10 ай бұрын

Let the car idle for 10 seconds... then drive normally until it's fully warm. When cold, the engine vibrates more, so raises revs to smooth engine out. Nothing to worry about, my car does it when it's below 2c.

@MichaelFlatman 10 ай бұрын

It depends what driving you do aswell. I usually reverse my car out then drive up to the top of the housing estate road (reaching around 10-15mph before I have to give way) and then go onto a 30mph residential road. This is quite low stress on the engine People that live near dual carriageways that require you to go 70mph I wonder if it hurts their car engines.

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

My SEAT sometimes increases idle speed during a cold start as do many cars. I start driving it within 10 seconds of starting it usually. What it doesn't like is if I start it and turn it off without driving it. The next time I start it, it misfires, I think some cars can suffer with this due to wet spark plugs from not allowing the engine to get hot. The car has over 200,000 miles now so driving it before it has warmed up doesn't seem to have done it harm. But turning it on and off without moving it does seem to cause problems.

@RikAindow 10 ай бұрын

@@ConquerDrivingI do love the look of your Seat. It's clearly well maintained. ❤

@SteveDarrow69 8 ай бұрын

What's the market price for both

@jage6126 9 ай бұрын

PSA doesnt show the extra consumtion due to regeneration of the FAP/DPF, hence the diff. The computer only shows engine consumption. You can change it to include that in the calculation, but then you need a diagnostic device.

@robertocurrlos7470 10 ай бұрын

These mpg are insane. Is this true for local busy roads. My fiesta says 35mpg and its a 1.2 zetec, 2010. For £20 i get 110 miles

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

The hybrid is very economical on busy city roads below 40mph.

@francisvanlangenhove1731 10 ай бұрын

Hi Richard can you make a video about how to drive the most economically with a hybrid .Thx

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for your suggestion, I may do in the future.

@elcrackdelblack 10 ай бұрын

Richard thank you for this video. Can you make a video of fuel efficienty in old diesel cars with manual transmissión. Thank you. Take care

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching. I may do in the future, it shouldn't be much different though as it's a robotised manual, meaning fuel economy should be the same-ish.

@OrangeUp 9 ай бұрын

@@ConquerDrivingI don‘t think he meant a robotized manual, but a normal manual.

@HeetThakkar 10 ай бұрын

I'm considering buying the Corolla in a few weeks. What trim is it? And I'm guessing you'd highly recommend?

@wintersun398 10 ай бұрын

defo go for the corolla. Excellent efficiency as seen on the video. Build quality is also excellent. Id also recommend the estate version as it’s not much longer than the hatch but more practical. I just wish they could double the battery in it so it could store more regen.

@ConquerDriving 10 ай бұрын

So far we're really happy with it. The trim is Excel.

@wintersun398 10 ай бұрын

@@ConquerDriving that’s the top trim! what does it have over the mid spec? a sunroof?

@andersriksson100 9 ай бұрын

Beeing primarily a petrol car I'm quite impressed with the fuel consumption of these Toyota hybrids. They have a small battery and I wonder what a battery twice the size or preferably (?) more would do for overall consumption - is size optimized by Toyota as is or would it improve mileage to the point it would do Plug-in hybrids rather redundant at least for those that doesn't comute longer distances on a daily basis...?

@RennieAsh 8 ай бұрын

I guess they figured the small size it is, is enough to accelerate the car to cruising speed, where it can perform recharge or just cruise on petrol. A larger battery may slightly increase regen capacity down hills or maybe slightly improve acceleration/quiet, but then you'd need to recharge it more which would make cruising fuel economy worse.

@iainansell5930 7 ай бұрын

@@RennieAsh it uses the passive waste momentum of the engine while cruising to recharge, and it would only recharge normally to about 20% of capacity- if it had to switch the engine on just for the purpose of recharging...sitting idle for instance, would only get the engine to switch on and charge to that approx 20% state of charge.

@mat134 10 ай бұрын

id love to see this between the toyota and a diesel hybrid

@afonsocarneiro 8 ай бұрын

why do you use tank volume in Liters and then ... you use MPG ?? per galon ??? why ?

@Kyntteri 8 ай бұрын

Citreoen seat vs Tv seat?

@draganku 9 ай бұрын

For me the best average use have from Toledo 1,6tdi 65-75mpg. It's 9 years old wv engine.. very satisfying. Cheap to maintain, service ,drive.

@Grimwriggler 10 ай бұрын

Thanks . This popped into my reccomended as i have been looking for a while into getting a new hydrid. i still run a 98 1.9 TDI Seat and is still in good health 25 years and 400 k KM on and it uses less the 4 L 100kl but the lack of airbag, Abs and now a broken AC with no refinement it really is time to go . Cars life average a lot longer in warmer climates, i am in Spain and my Seat has not any rust anywhere and was on the coast most of its life