I genuinely believe this and XD gave the most shits about making interesting/difficult Pokémon battles. Shadow Pokémon could have been lazy but instead they made a legit system. The game was challenging. And XD made a puzzle mode basically which is sick!

"Welcome to Mount BATTLE" "Oh, nice! What happens there?"

For the Agate Village walking trick, you can also unplug the controller and plug it back in while holding up on the joystick. The Gamecube always assumes the stick is in neutral when plugged in, so resting the stick back to neutral will be read as holding down.

Honest to God, Lyra, you learning your type matchups and realizing "Huh, maybe unga bunga isn't the best way to play..." already makes you better than 70% of players I run into. I watched you list this Mt. Battle team and flinched from how unbalanced it was... But it worked out anyway. Good job. Can't wait to see how you handle XD: Gale of Darkness, my 2nd favorite Gen 3 title.

3:30 seeing the words "SHADY GUY LYRA" together is terrifying, you know something is wrong because Lyra is the most wholesome person ever. Meanwhile, "wholesome" Lyra: 34:18

From personal experience: you learn about Thunder's interaction with Rain by growing up during Gen 2 and playing the heck out of Pokemon Stadium 2 rental battles xD Also the "school" in Pokemon Stadium 2 is actually really great (if now outdated) for teaching battle strategy, I was really hoping something like it would be included in the new Scarlet and Violet since that is all about going to school xD

Glad to see you ended up liking Colosseum a lot more than last time, and that you cleared the Mt. Battle challenge so well. I haven't yet done it, but after watching this, I think I might have to construct a team to try it myself.

Happy to hear you enjoyed it! Fell asleep during the stream and have not watched the vod yet. Now imagine trying the 100 fight challenge with a team not tailored to deal with it as most did back in the day and you can imagine why most people would need a ton of continues.

If anything, this video showed the importance of type coverage

I will forever love Colosseum for giving us Umbreon and Espeon as a starter 🖤🩷

Goddamn, im actually impressed how much your battling improved for this! At this rate, i cant wait to see you start factoring in physical/special stats and knowing when super effective isnt the most effective 😂

I'm really glad Colosseum really pushed for a better understanding of battle mechanics. I love this series, but I must admit that watching a few clips of the battles in prior episodes was a bit difficult to watch as a competitive Pokémon hobbyist. I don't expect perfection of course, this is a Pokemon capture series, not a battle one, but I'm happy lessons we're at a more well-rounded spot now.

So glad to see how much your opinion on Colosseum has improved! It really is an awesome game that doesn't always get the love it deserves. And congrats on the Mt. Battle wins, too! Nice thought put into that team- I usually just run with the team I used to beat the story mode. A lot of my victories heavily involved my Feraligatr and Plusle doing the same basic thing your Raikou and Suicune did, but with the addition of Plusle's Helping Hand to power up Feraligatr's Surf even more.

The best part of Mt. Battle is all the theme teams

Lyra, your content is truly amazing. I'm glad you gave this game a shot and are willing to play Gale of Darkness next! Thanks for another great video!

I feel like Lyra had flashbacks to the Invincible Ludicolo during that last fight. XD Thank you for a fun video!

It's good that you got to enjoy Colosseum more than before, and hopefully you get a lot of enjoyment out of XD. By most people's accounts, it's the better game out of the two, and I happen to agree, but I'm interested to hear what you think about it once you play it!

Gen 3 w/ emerald battle frontier colosseum and Xd taught me a lot about strats the use of none attack moves and gave us the ultimate content

Loving the living dex series in each gen you've done.

Theres bound to be a npc tucked away on some island up stairs in some house who explain that weather conditions can effect accuracy. He'd say something like "did you know that weather conditions can effect how often some moves land?! On rainy days i bring my pikachu to the roof and power my generator with its thunder!"

NGL Mt Battle is super easy, it's just time consuming lol. I did it on the run-up to Ultra Sun for the Ho-oh, and the worst part is just how long it takes. Especially in the early battles when all you're doing is slapping down the baby trainers with Colosseum's lack of set mode/turning off animations (a lot of which take a long time to play out).

I love how you began to enjoy and understand double battles :D

The beginning of Pokemon XD starts with a tutorial battle, and there's a lot more that you can do if you want to learn more about Gen 3 battling. It's actually pretty decent at teaching some things. Too bad a lot of the mechanics change by the very next generation.

Every time this channel releases a vid i learn about new depths of possible skill issues one might have.

Love watching Lyra having an existential crisis over Latias being small

This was very enjoyable to watch, you have really great narration and are easy to follow. Was interesting

I loved seeing you getting more and more into strategizing, I hope you'll keep this taste for combat!

Great video! Technically, you are still missing 3 pokemon from Japanese Colosseum. They are locked behind the Pokemon Battle e+ cards.

I wish I'd known about the ball glitch back when I played Pokémon Colosseum when it originally came out. It would've saved me a few headaches trying to catch some of the later Shadow Pokémon as well as the Legendary Beasts. I still remember freaking out during the first battle with Dakim because one of his other Pokémon greatly damaged Entei with Earthquake, so I had to catch Entei as quickly as possible and I was lucky enough to get it with either my first or second Ultra Ball. Also, I don't know if you've ever played Pokémon Stadium 2, but Earl's Academy offers lessons and tutorials on the various battle mechanics of the Gen 2 games, at least one of which explicitly mentions Thunder always hitting while it's raining in battle, as well as Solar Beam bypassing the charge-up turn to immediately hit during strong sunshine, confirming that the Thunder Dance and Sunny Beam combos have existed since Pokémon Gold & Silver.

You keep up this kinda fun and soon you'll be posting Pokemon VGC videos soon! Awesome video!

Grats! And glad you found the joy of battle tactics and type matchups! Also agree that double battles and triple battles is grossly underrated for a interesting format!

Man I love your series so far! I can't wait for you to be done with gen 3. I'm starting to collect everything I need for gen 4 myself but I'm at a loss for how to start planning my runs. Platinum will definitely be my hub game tho.

After the previous Colosseum video, I'm really glad the story of you and this game seems to have had such a glowing ending. That, and I'm so glad to hear you enjoying taking battles seriously, after you previously said you didn't enjoy battling that much and relied mostly on level brute force. This was one of your best videos in terms of growing as a player.

Lyra, you are amazing, luv. Thanks for another brilliant video. You rule. One love ❤️

You skimmed heavily over how you were able to trick the Celebi bonus disc to accepting an NA save file, how were you able to do that? Feels like it’d be a lot harder than you made it out to be. Also good luck on XD, there’s a lot of quality of life improvements there that will make things significantly less tedious on you, on top of you actually having more options to work with both in teambuilding and in battle decisions. Will be happy to see how it goes!

I'm so happy for Lyra. Learning about the inner workings of Pokemon's systems is a special kind of high the series rarely pushes people towards, and the Orre games focusing on that really makes for a special pocket of the series. Makes me wonder if he'll get into competitive pokemon through this. Dude took a bite of the fruit and I could _hear_ the frustration from wanting more during that final match.

I mean this with all due respect but the contrast between all the lengths they go through to set up these extensive lists for national dex completion, setting up and going through with plans to make full living dexes and then complaining about how they only now found out how thunder works just floors me. like it's just such an enigma...

I've never played Colosseum, but I can appreciate it for being an introduction to actual teambuilding and strategy in Pokemon. The battle system has always been surprisingly complex, and it's always interesting to see what people come up with.

Though in all seriousness, some of my previous comments might have come off a bit negative, but I've loved your content and I'm glad you gave Colosseum a try and appreciated something new! I'm looking forward to seeing you blast this Gen 3 living dex :D

PERFECT TIMING!!!! I am replaying Colloseum at the moment

Fun fact: you technically have to do Mt Battle twice: once in Story mode for the time flute, once in Battle mode for Ho-oh with your story team. The trainers, teams, and strats are different for both runs (and even in Single or Double battles for Battle mode), and the final boss of the challenge is as well. In Story, it’s a bodybuilder modelswap named Somek or smth like that, while in Battle mode it’s either Eagun reskins Infin or Inity depending on if you challenged Singles or Doubles. While Doubles is probably the most completed version, Singles still has some decent tricks up it’s sleeve.

I was in the streams on your other channel! It was fun to follow along your suffering Lyra :X

I played colosseum to do the ribbon challenge and it's my favourite spin off so far! the way this game glorifies battles, the take on stolen pokemon and the level of difficulty it's something I really enjoyed,

Love these videos! I’m subbing for more living dex gen 3!

When i was a child i played that 100 trainer challenge and was able to complete it with my team from Leafgreen, consisting of Venusaur, Pidgeot, Nidoking, Gyarados, Alakazam and Snorlax. Nowadays i am surprised that i did it, since i wasn't very smart at battling,

The journey to see you enjoy battles was quite pleasant. Usually only post game stuff like battle frontier offers any actual challenge, so only people into competitive and ribbon masters bother learning more than necessary. It was nice that Colosseum gave a reason to learn more than just beeg damage.

Just wanted to say your catch em all series inspired me to get a gamecube and colo+xd and all that cable guff for the authentic complete gen 3 experience. Haven't started them yet so I'll watch this later but hope your quest is going smoothly

I'm impressed! I didn't think you'd go back to this challenge after all after having given up on it initially. Props to your perseverence. One thing I'd like to mention is that I'm pretty sure you could have avoided hitting your own Pokemon with Earthquake by using Protect.

My head is still spinning over how you got Celebi! I've been trying to read the thread about it but i feel really dumb not understanding aha. Still gotta finish the game myself anyhow. Nice work on this!

glad you enjoyed battling :D

Another good video Lyra !

I love how he left the base game in disgust, but came back and had the time of his life doing the post game he was dreading. I never actually played this one, but some friends loaned me the sequel a few years back, and that game is actually good. They properly automated the purifying system into something somewhat creative. Also, Battle CD's are a fantastic idea and a fun way to learn mechanics and strategy. I'm honestly sad they don't have anything like that in any other games.

You are a hundred percent right about the game not telling you about how moves interact, and about that being super frustrating at times! I'm not sure if it helps at all, but I believe the reason Gamefreak included so many details like that is because Pokemon was always intended to be a social game. The idea was that people would learn, pick up, and discover certain mechanical details over time, and would share them with their friends, therefore creating a stronger community of people sharing all the truths, myths, and rumours about how exactly the games worked. You'll see this in the Regi caves for RSE - it's my personal belief that those were created as a nod to the crazy internet stories about how to get ultra rare legendary Pokemon by adopting a series of weird and arbitrary maneuvers which were typically complete timewasters. Don't get me wrong - I still think it's a pretty reasonable conclusion if you think that it's dumb and unnecessarily obfuscated. That said, if the question is 'how on earth was I supposed to know that?' I personally think the answer is you ultimately learned in the exact way you were supposed to; someone else who had played the games told you about it.

About Thunder: Isn't there a Schoolboy to the west of Ecruteak who calls you to tell you about niche move interactions like Stomp doing more damage against targets using Minimize and Thunder being 100% accurate in rain? I know for certain he says those things in HG/SS, and he probably also mentions them in G/S/C.

Good job on finishing Mt. Battle and enjoying Colosseum! Kinda funny how your leads for this were Suicune and Raikou, and my leads were Suicune and Stantler. Stantler == Raikou I guess, I knew my boy could do it!

I’m glad to see you ENJOYING battles instead of approaching them as a gate for progress. Makes me smile.

I just finished watching this whole series for a 2nd time on Friday so its nice to see a new video up so quickly. Also 1 hour gang here! 🎉

This was a cool veido. I don't think I completed a living dex until Pokemon Home came out.

I’m so happy I have finally found someone who pronounces Chimecho’s name the same way I do: “Chime-cho”. I know it’s actually pronounced “Chime-echo”, but I don’t care and this validates my childhood misunderstandings.

I did this as a kid, the real difficulty was not dying from boredom. Fights only got interesting after the first eighty. . . I also didn't use any glitches, but did use a Kyogre which made it trivial! The Ho-oh was cool. Good use of celebi flutes and oils made the purification pretty easy.

You know it’s a good day when lyra posts

Here’s a team I used for my play through of gale of darkness. It will help you through the main story. Espeon Ampharos Dusclops Walrain Zangoose Houndoom Espeon, houndoom and zangoose are the main damage dealers. Dusclops is here as a tank to assist with helping hand and give opposing pokemon burn status. Walrain as a slow but heavy hitter that also acts as a THICk defensive wall to take hits. Ampharos is here to use thunderwave and alongside espeon help set up light screen and reflect respectively.

I was worried you had given up on this, but based on the video length this leg just tool half past forever to do. Edit: And you discovering battling is hilarious, all it took was the hardest main line game.

18:25 It's not small.. It's definitely average, even above average

It's actually so cool to see someone learn battling through Colosseum's Mt. Battle

Congratualations on winning both Ho-oh ad, Jirachi, and getting Celebi as well. I havd Channel, so my Celdbi will come from there, but I'll have to beat the Elite Four for it first. If onlyb I could get Celebi the legit way as well.

This was an extremely fun video! I love your content... Waiting for the XD video.

9:19 I understand what you mean but here's some trivia... In Pokemon Stadium 2, there's a Pokemon school of some sort that you can play. There, you learn a buttload of hidden mechanics including, you guessed it, Rain Dance + Thunder combo. So, yeah, at some point, GF _did_ explain it but I understand that they didn't again since then. EDIT: Oh yeah. In that mode, you also learn the Defense Curl + Rollout combo as well. EDIT2: Maaaaaaaan... if I would have read the comments just a little bit more I would have known that I'm late to the party in saying this.

"Ok the Raikou and Insane the Suicune...don't worry about the names, they make no sense." 10/10 line 😂

And somehow this isn't the toughest challenge Genius Sonority came up with. I want to see someone beat Pokémon Battle Revolution, Stargazer Colosseum Round 8 with only Rentals. Of course it isn't possible with the ones you start with, but after beating the game once, Gateway Colosseum becomes a Battle Factory of sorts, where after you defeat a trainer, you can trade permanently one of your Pokémon with them, and on the higher rounds this give competitive Pokémon. But Stargazer Round 8 is tough even with optimal teams, so despite having good Mons, it still is a nightmare to complete.

In hindsight the 100th Floor in Mt. Battle should've consisted of like Ho-Oh, Sunflora, Groudon, Sunflora, Latias and Sunflora then it would've been super tricky. It is interesting how Sunflora was broken as an opponent's pokemon in this challenge and not literally any other pokemon.

Now you need to clear the Emerald battle facilities

So I haven't bothered to look, but the detailed interactions with weather (thunder in rain, can't freeze in sun, etc.) were clearly stated in Stadium 2. I do wonder if they are mentioned in game elsewhere in books at the trainer school and such.

"I don't want to be THAT GUY who gives up on a challenge when it looks too tough." I do, or I want to be known as "THAT GUY who gives up on a challenge when it looks too tough because he has better games to enjoy than those that make him have end up evolving into Annihilape because he died from rage." ;p

Man I love this series, been having a lot of fun watching your living pokedex videos. I have one question, is it legitimate to do a gen 1 and 2 living pokedex using the remakes? Would love to try completing those games and was wondering if it was acutally legitimate, also having a living gen 1 remake living pokedex would also be a great time saver for the gen 3 livign pokedex later on wouldnt it?

Congratulations! If i may make a suggestion in case you ever decide to take on gen 3 battle frontier for fun. Use shadow ball over psychic on Metagross. In gen 3 ghost is physical which Metagross will use better than the stab

Gen 3 living dex is by far the most difficult. Afterward, gens 4 and 5 become a lot easier :)

Really great stuff Lyra. Since this is 2 months old I'm guessing you played XD by now, I'll have a look for the video, am curious which you prefer.

Love seeing colosseum making new fans still ❤️

Never finished the Mt Battle as a kid, stopped around 80-90 I think... Hopefully I can find my old memory cards to one day finish it.

Maybe you don't know, but... in Gen 3 spread moves like Rock Slide and Surf (the ones that only hit the foe) do half of the damage in doubles, so they're very weak. Spread moves like Earthquake and Explosion, so that hit even the teammate, do 100% to everyone, so they're very strong. In the later gens, they do 75% everytime Note: Rain Dance + Surf should technically do 75% of the total in this case, so it's like a 72 base power move. It is lowered to 48 due to being a double battle (yeah) + the 50% of this number, so it will go up to 72

Glad you enjoyed it. Hope you like Gale of Darkness

There is usually an npc that does explain the weather stuff like thunder and solar beam, but coliseum doesn't I think.

I literally just rewatchrd the OG colosseum video. And I’m doing a second(or third) run through to get all the rare berries

To be fair, I think one of the later games explains that Rain Dance makes Thunder always hit, but I don't remember which one (maybe Gen 6 or 7). It is silly that it was present but never explained in the early games though. Also wow, this doesn't look too bad. I was expecting something like Stadium 2 with rentals only or something.

It was almost twenty years ago since I did it, but I remember Mt. Battle not being hard, just VERY tedious. Specifically in the latter half I had to stop numerous times because it was so boring and no one could pose even a remote challenge.

I sure had more patience when I was a kid and did all this. I rarely bother with things like this nowadays. Just cant do it.

Are you planning to upload a vod of the run. I would like to see that

Rain Dance makes Thunder always hit "How are you supposed to know this?" Well by buying the official game guide, of course. Thought you were done buying things? 😂

Oh god, he actually did it. The madman.

One of the very best pokemon games. God I love this game.

Congrats on finishing this challenge. It takes A LOT of work to finish this and I'm glad you enjoyed it . Also the way you mispronounce 75% of the Pokemon names drives me insane. lol

I do kinda sympathize with the Thunder thing! I learned it from Pokemon Stadium 2, which had a little 'Academy' to teach you more advanced mechanics, including how some moves interact with weather. I stopped playing back in gen 3, so I dunno how I would deal with newer weird interactions...

I have such fond memories of this challenge. I beat it with a choice band Hi Jump kick Medicham and sleep powder Jumpluff 😂. As most people say the hardest part is the grind to purify and how long it takes to simply sit through 100 battles on Colosseum's slow engine

Seems about right. As I recall from back in the day, the final battle 100 was the only one I ever struggled with.

I had a relatively easy time purifying all 48 shadows. What I did was I would play through the game, then when I would have to put the game down (such as for the night or to run errands, etc) I would do the Agate walking glitch with a full team of shadows with the pokemon with the biggest heart gauge in the day care. I would also use the day care during the playthrough to purify a pokemon passively.

Sweet! You get a great pokemon! Immediately after it would be useful...

"This challenge is so hard I didn't want to attempt it....Here are some restrictions to make the challenge harder." 🙂

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27:23 "He's starting to believe"