"σιφοναριοι" is a Greek word this unit is inspired from the famous Greek fire. It was a weapon mainly used in ships around the Byzantine Empire era:)
@drazenbabic47063 жыл бұрын
interesting, thanks mate for the quick teach
@MarbleHit3 жыл бұрын
@@drazenbabic4706 thank you for taking the time to respond❤️
@thealmightygonk26442 жыл бұрын
These guys were real though
@michaelweston409 Жыл бұрын
Did ancient flame throwers like this actually historically exist? Serious question.
@pykeblinder4754 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelweston409 yes my friend. Byzantine empire was an example. They used the "liquid fire" (υγρό πυρ) at naval battles.
@Jixxor3 жыл бұрын
Today I walked my Symmachean Paladins up a siege tower. There were some Pikes inside of Imperial Spearmen. But sadly there were also some flame throwers you could absolutely not see in there, and 19 of my Paladins died within 1 second. Their burst damage is unreasonable in my opinion. Their AoE already allows them an insanely high damage potential, but the fact everything in their way dies within just a few seconds is 10 times worse than Pavise Crossbowmen ever were.
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
They are certainly pretty damaging! I to have fallen victim when they are hiding and I haven't spotted them until it is to late
@drqarma27973 жыл бұрын
I love how I got a Conqueror Blade ad in a Conqueror blade video
@Ian-qb4qn3 жыл бұрын
Always hated playing against them. Guaranteed stun on hit regardless unit or hero and hero wise you can't dodge roll or use skills to escape. It's the ultimate stun 🤔
@sophiearcher61533 жыл бұрын
because the game needed more CC to CC chain from 100%- dead with no counterplay.
@secretAZNman_3 жыл бұрын
great video! this confirms my thoughts on how good the cooldown reduction from top vet line is. i need to hurry up and level these
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And yeah a very powerful unit once they are fully levelled up :)
@rpavangchhia89533 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ! Thats an insane!!
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
XD
@jordicl43253 жыл бұрын
arbalist can shoot through shields and hit 2 enemies per arrow, what allows them to kill flamethrowers through shields. underrated unit that can counter the most op unit right now. javelin sergeants have a really high block break chance (90%) so they can jav through shields and kill flamethrowers too. this unit is not op, just unknown and people dont know how to play against it.
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
Good point about the arbalists they certainly can be countered and if they get caught in the open they die super fast, its more just the speed they can put out such high damage that makes them quite a decent unit at the moment
@halberdoh84893 жыл бұрын
@@EvoLozGaming they kind of seem to me like the ultimate glass cannon, low hp, defence and unit count but fkn insane dmg just insane.. I feel like if I see them I will take out my longbow to snipe them, maybe even use the piercing ult if they are behind shields...
@Joske00003 жыл бұрын
Yes but how many people bring arbalist to TW and anyway into sieges, and other point is that you wont bring those guys with just one shield wall you can but they are used different and that is in caotic situations where noone sees them because they are wide spread on f1 and they wont die instantly of anything and trust me even 2 of those can kill 50+ units in just couple seconds. It is one of those units that if left alone is useless and if used well they are too OP. But other thing that makes them so powerfull is that they are soo fast you can bring them from behind the walls in seconds and start a fire and than evrything is over.
@jordicl43253 жыл бұрын
@@Joske0000 it doesnt need to be arbalist, sargeant javelineers works too with 90% block break but in chaotic situations both mentioned units are safe because they wouldnt be close range so a lot of allied units would die but the flamethrowers would still get killed at first sight by javs or arbalists.
@melt68943 жыл бұрын
Namkans can be devastating since they shoot so many bleed arrows, just one will do significant damage to a model.
@Debbiebabe693 жыл бұрын
Best way to deal with flamethrower guys is to chase them off the battlefield with longbowmen.
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
They certainly suffer badly when they get hit by arrows :-D
@tonyli83683 жыл бұрын
I don’t think the longbows could have gotten a good angle in the gatehouse unless they were fairly close to the frontline. Same with the top of the gatehouse.
@Debbiebabe693 жыл бұрын
@@tonyli8368 If there are flamethrowers in the gatehouse, just dont go there. He got 136 mostly lemmings. As for anywhere else, longbowmen can make arrows come down from really unusual angles doe to their range, and their 1 ability almost makes them fire homers instead of dumb arrows. There are only 7 models and they are made of tin (FLAMMABLE tin at that!), you just have to remember to manually aim your range so it hits them and not the ISGs in front of them.
@AcceptYourDeath3 жыл бұрын
Could it be one of the best counters are their little brothers throwing flaming pots?
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
To some extent yes that may well be true, could burn them whilst they are covered in sheilds!
@HanTonyM3 жыл бұрын
That long stun to warlords is the one this this game did not need.
@Debbiebabe693 жыл бұрын
Dont mind it tbh.... heroes are waaaay to OP (especially mauls) and the game needed something to stop them dominating as much!
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
The stun can be brutal, i'm kind of 50/50 heroes can be quite powerful so i don't mind a bit of stun but equally it maybe a little to long you get trapped for whilst burning
@sophiearcher61533 жыл бұрын
@@Debbiebabe69 unless you have mauls with them....
@jafaralktaifi47413 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this video, and also I started around two weeks ago have any tips on how to play like a high level player with low level units?
@Debbiebabe693 жыл бұрын
Get pike militia ASAP. Amazing unit, especially when upgraded, and they are only a 2-star unit. Look at the team on this vid - flamethrower guys, stalwarts, martellori (despite only being half-star, they are actually the rarest and most expensive unit ingame, so forget about these for a few years), and yes, pike militia. Also get the demon spearmen (chivalric tree), they are an OK unit but they are the stepping stone to spear sergeants, a purple unit that sits in the blue tree (making them a lot cheaper than any other purple unit), which is also a very good unit and arguably the best unit ingame when playing vs AI - especially when upgraded to stalwarts.
@nightfallzero37523 жыл бұрын
Look to trade your units against higher level ones. In terms of leadership your team cones out on top.
@jafaralktaifi47413 жыл бұрын
@@Debbiebabe69 Thanks
@Joske00003 жыл бұрын
Firsth go for pike milita and then turn your way to spear sargents and rush to monastic knights after that go for hussars, and on your way unlock seson 3 units firsth condotieri and fortebracios after that go for season 2 namkham archers than on season 4 janissaires and that is good start.
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
Some good tips from others here, pike militia great starting unit the heros journey quests will give you a free t3, t4 and t5 unit which will give you a good start to your career :)
@IMnotFATbutUare3 жыл бұрын
The point of them is to stop blobbing which would be an amazing thing for CB if players actually adapted to them.
@sirdudeman61063 жыл бұрын
What a glorious slaughter lol. Cool video
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
Haha! They certainly all burned
@prakigam3 жыл бұрын
*We traded fairly well there!* entire enemy team is ded
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
XD
@Joske00003 жыл бұрын
I am glad that someone agreed that these will be new meta because they are just crazy if used well, and people doubt on them because of defense and dont give them a chance, but anyway i hope to use them on TW soon because they even uncovered can kill 40-50 in just seconds They will die but no other unit guarantees that it will kill any i mean any unit if they engage them in close fight
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
Yep I think it takes time for things like this to become noticed as a meta unit because so many haven't unlocked/ levelled them yet. As you say very effective in TW
@Joske00003 жыл бұрын
@@EvoLozGaming yeah i forget that i bought them and they are hard to grind so it is not like evryone is heaving them now, not to say that they are far from max. Mine are level 29 and one more to max hp is belove 5000 without doctrine.
@MrCakedo3 жыл бұрын
You finally used the dmg buff! Glad to see you making it shine. Also you killed MrSad, he was the guy who constantly wiped me over and over during the first season with his iron reapers lol.
@rhgwizard3 жыл бұрын
lol i got an add with you in it for this
@crzblunt3 жыл бұрын
I laughed a lot thanks !
@alvaropenademiguel23083 жыл бұрын
This unit is ON FIRE!! XD Awesome siege, better video. Greetings from Spain :)
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
haha XD
@thedabbinggamer37263 жыл бұрын
Cease
@kalgeriax10163 жыл бұрын
Out of topic here. If you guys having lag issues and you using steam, disable steam overlays while in game. I got so bad lag spikes before, so I understand how frustrated it was, with unloaded world, character free T animations etc.. Hope it will helps.
@fayte58773 жыл бұрын
did they fix the height issue with them at all since then Evo? been thinking about unlocking and using them but that's a real setback in some levels and a lot of leadership for a big downfall like that
@gabrielvillacorta64573 жыл бұрын
we need more vid of these unit pls
@DannyDimes311 Жыл бұрын
Just picked them up and they are ridiculous
@kywychoco3 жыл бұрын
Hi ! nice video dude ! such good unit ! May i ask if u can counter this ? Like the glaive spell ( heat of battle), can u skip the control ?
@pakornwattanavrangkul25503 жыл бұрын
I maniacally laugh every time I squirt them against a melee blob. I even managed to stop and entire monastic charge yesterday and stop a whole push with only 1 shield for support. Edit: Oh, you went top line? I went bottom for more burn cc duration. Edit 2: Tried and swapped back, top line is nice when you can pull it off but it becomes a 1 trick pony and heavily reliant on the 1st skill hitting, which can get tricky in areas with elevated terrain. At least with bottom line, i have 2 skills to rely one while also being slightly tankier.
@brawler88113 жыл бұрын
i think they change the way how the unit kits loss in this season. (for all units especially in t5 units)
@Alex-mv2dr3 жыл бұрын
It pisses me off that in certain siege maps, after capturing de A point, people forget we have towers to come into the city. Literally today I found this problem, we lost because we only attacked throught the main gate. People is so stupid sometimes.
@daneilocorias79563 жыл бұрын
Yeah i frikin hate players who dont push siege equipment because their units are gonna die. So we only attack at one or two spots smh🤦🏼♂️ and they dont push with me either they wait and dont push any siege
@fadeclan_yt79303 жыл бұрын
You’re the best KZfaq ever
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Man :)
@nickogecko3 жыл бұрын
Holy moly! I gotta get me one of those!
@niksoncutts3 жыл бұрын
How's the top veterancy line compare to the bottom one? I've heard a lot of people tell me to go down the bottom line so that they leave a burning AOE on the ground, but the top line looks like it just straight up does more damage?
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
Yeah The bottom damage is good and all but for me I dislike the slow deployment of the ground aoe burn I much prefer just pressing 1 and burning everything around, seems to have plenty of damage along that line
@luskieman3 жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see the defensive stat comparison between these guys and the falconetti's, i wonder who survives the most. And i was almost afraid of using them during my 3day trial because of the amount of 50k exp medals i would waste if i leveled them too much haha Not sure i agree with them stunning heroes, it makes them too effective. I also remember back pre season 1 when the fire archers and pref archers were dominant with their fire and they nerfed them by introducing a passive that ruined them, perhaps they'll do that again since no unit can even engage them frontally. Perhaps let shielded units deflect flames or at least eastern spearmen who's shields cover their entire bodies.
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
interesting thought at def stats, I suspect falco are stronger but would make for an interesting test. Yeah was quite painful having to use some unit xp cards when I worry i'm going to be stuck with those 50k exp cards XD
@MannyXVIII3 жыл бұрын
From 60 kills to 130 in a matter of seconds. Jesus.
@dukes28743 жыл бұрын
Byzantine empire was holding thanks to greek fire. No wonder they are stong but caught up in melee is a disaster.
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense from a historical point of view just a rather strong unit from a gameplay point of view
@dukes28743 жыл бұрын
@@EvoLozGaming with good synergy thia unit is broken. I m hyped to get them aswell
@tonyli83683 жыл бұрын
Only 1.3M damage though? Is there some shenanigans with fire damage or is it actually 1.3M? Maybe damage to shields normally counts and then the fire just ignores it? Anyways, I hope these don’t become another Khesig or Falconetti. We really don’t need another seasonal unit overperforming tech tree units.
@zhmir2993 жыл бұрын
great vid keep it up!
@ArmstrongHoN3 жыл бұрын
They are strong but they are getting countered by many things long bow short bow muskets pavise and arbalists and all the archer units. What I am saying is that they are glass cannon yes they deal enormous damage but when you see them you should call the longbows and players with range units so they can kill them . They are not that hard to deal with
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are certainly very vulnerable when they get caught out in the open, it's just when they get covered by a shield in a chokepoint they tend to do very well
@diggles273 жыл бұрын
eVO 'quite an interesting unit' Loz
@Zillion0073 жыл бұрын
Hey great vid man to bad you just missing assassination doctrine lots of love from zilly
@Joske00003 жыл бұрын
Better to take hp doctrine assasination is too much hahaha
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
haha would feel bad all that extra hero damage XD
@michaelweston409 Жыл бұрын
Did ancient flame throwers like this actually historically exist? Serious question.
@anonymous549 Жыл бұрын
The Byzantines actually fielded several varieties of flamethrowers Including this kind. Mostly though they were either much larger versions mounted on ships or siege towers. While uncommon they were known to field troops wielding a "Cheirosiphon" in groups of 100. Though they only had a range of about 4-10 ft (1.2-3 meters) If they are to be believed the enemy would often break before ever hitting the front lines
@michaelweston409 Жыл бұрын
@@anonymous549 if that’s true it would be crazy to think they fielded these modern weapons a 1000 years before anyone else did
@anonymous549 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelweston409 History is often crazier than fiction. Fiction has to at least try and be believable but history has no such compunction.
@noteimporta28803 жыл бұрын
And I'm struggling to get 100 kills a game with any unit elite tier.
@Kserijaro3 жыл бұрын
I am getting 160 avg with blue archers you are bad :(
@noteimporta28803 жыл бұрын
@@Kserijaro well actually now I'm averaging 100 kills plus a game with my all tier 1 unit build so .. and anyone can get high kills in a low skilled game like yours.
@khakichan79993 жыл бұрын
How do you claim the twitch drops? I got all the drops and also Im on the conqblade website but theres nothing there
@finnsverre9053 жыл бұрын
plz help me it says my game cleint cant be found and i cant load up
@thegovernor86543 жыл бұрын
Man didnt thought they can do a Unit that "was" more OP then Fortebraccio but here it is its even worse....
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
XD
@sacredmud43663 жыл бұрын
How did you get them to level 24 so quickly? :O
@generalgrievous30543 жыл бұрын
Prob unit xp
@DroxVAL3 жыл бұрын
evo, are levy calverymen ok for a starter calf, or should i ppurchase those later in expirience. i started like 2 weeks ago and im level 25
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
Best to avoid cav at very low level, they are hard to use and expensive to run
@DroxVAL3 жыл бұрын
@@EvoLozGaming oh ok thanks, cause they cost 2k honour and im saving up for the squires :)
@Tsumetaiyoru3 жыл бұрын
Definitely an oppressive unit thats also going to be a pain to balance. Nerfing either the damage or the defensive stats drastically impacts the viability of the unit because of the low unit count and high leadership cost. Still a fun unit though!
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
It is a tough unit to balance, I guess as players get more used to the unit it'll be countered more easily but as you say still quite a fun unit :-)
@user-gf9iy6yq7o3 жыл бұрын
I call them the syphilis
@blechbuddy3 жыл бұрын
Do they stop cav charge?
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
They sort of do yes but remember range is extremely short so have to be very spot on with the timing you fire the flames
@erikmindgames30583 жыл бұрын
Do they ignore shields all together or is the damage reduced or is it like lower chance to go through shields
@taejo49753 жыл бұрын
Well I used the Demanse Spearman and we use shield walls..... no matter what we got blow away by flame and killed instantly
@erikmindgames30583 жыл бұрын
@@taejo4975 yeah but im like asking if the shields help at all or they dont care about it. like cav deals less damage to shields but they kill them anyways
@Joske00003 жыл бұрын
@@erikmindgames3058 they dont care of enything shields charges even khesigs back charge evrything us stunned and deleted
@cccaaawww86853 жыл бұрын
Siphonarioi (SI-fo-nar-ee-oo-ee)
@SABER_Knight-King3 жыл бұрын
That is actually wrong & I'm saying that because I'm Greek & their name comes from the Greek word "σιφοναριοι" the right way to pronounce this is si-fo-na-ree-e yep that sound about right :)
@cccaaawww86853 жыл бұрын
@@SABER_Knight-King I just figured I’d try giving it a go
@matteocastelletti57013 жыл бұрын
Man, how can I get the same clothes that your hero have? I wanna understand how i can get that items that i love
@boazd86223 жыл бұрын
OP unit. Needs a nerf. There is litteraly no unit capable of doing the stuff this unit does. It's basically insta killing no matter the enemies armour or hp. Just go bye bye.
@rc48653 жыл бұрын
defo does not need a nerf they die so easily
@rc48653 жыл бұрын
this game evo had with them was one in a million
@boazd86223 жыл бұрын
@@rc4865 this shows that you only need a shield wall and they are op
@rc48653 жыл бұрын
I have so far played 40 games with them and in each one a long bow hero one shots them with an explosive arrow through shields or a musket as well as artillery, archers and even suicidal melee heroes kill them in seconds leading to only 50 or 60 kills with them if your lucky. You will see when you get them.
@shooter22243 жыл бұрын
these guys seem really OP i absolutely detest them
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
They certainly can be very powerful in the right situations!
@melt68943 жыл бұрын
They are very micromanage intense. You won’t be able to just plop them down in big fights. And heroes will always be trying to get at them.
@@shooter2224 that’s what chokepoints are for though.... it’s not meant to be easy to break through if the defenders use the right units. The flame throwers are excellent at taking out enemies from one direction, but fail at multiple attacks from all around due to their limited amount of men. They are like fortebraccios, with the right support and environment, you can dominate any melee fight. Get caught out and your unit will be annihilated. Also it’s not a bad thing when players work together to maximize their unit’s effectiveness. I don’t understand why stalwart + flamethrower combo is seen as broken. Teamwork should never be considered an op tactic.
@melt68943 жыл бұрын
@@shooter2224 in fact I have a hard time getting the perfect scenario like that, because the enemy always comes from multiple directions and not the one I want them to. Also, the unit automatically shoots flames, before they get in range of the abilities, so you lose the element of surprise. Once they see it, they won’t come back. Without their abilities, their fire rate is quite slow and sparse, so multiple heroes can easily overwhelm a unit of stalwarts and flamethrowers. The fire damage is great, but their real value is their hero stun capabilities, and I can see this getting nerfed. As players get used to them, they will slowly become less of a threat. Similar to how fortebraccios became less of a threat.
@secretAZNman_3 жыл бұрын
what does the Slashing Damage come from?
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
They have a small hand axe for melee, if it comes to that things have gone badly XD
@secretAZNman_3 жыл бұрын
@@EvoLozGaming oh okay.. So all the fire is blunt damage then, correct? I was bummed to see you can't add doctrines for increasing damage or penetration
@biagioi56643 жыл бұрын
Can someone please help me with some advice and give me a good unit to use and also a good hero class to be using? I like the short sword and also the spear but i feel that don't push back hard enough.
@SABER_Knight-King3 жыл бұрын
Short Sword is a tank class so if you like killing other heroes I wouldn't recommend playing this class as it's best quality is absorbing damage, Spear is one of the best class in the game for fighting other heroes, it's really strong.
@NevilleMehta3 жыл бұрын
What did I just witness...
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
A lot of flames!
@thegauntlet8603 жыл бұрын
@@EvoLozGaming Hanz brought the heavy flamer
@yamahay87483 жыл бұрын
God every new unit release is more broken than the last
@wr0ng5692 жыл бұрын
This aged perfectly
@Crescentine0083 жыл бұрын
Crazy :O
@Arkedios3 жыл бұрын
And you are not even mvp? Lol
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
XD
@temujinkhagan53083 жыл бұрын
Ther eis always that one guy with 1050 participation while having 17 deaths and 1 kill
@MrMintyfreshsmell3 жыл бұрын
Wow that damage is just insane. Lmao and the game only game you an A for nearly 300 troop kills....
@H31s3nberg3 жыл бұрын
alright, who thought of this its unrealistic
@michaelweston409 Жыл бұрын
They were real weapons made by the Greek tho
@budrothefox36663 жыл бұрын
OP unit nerf them!
@roelven12823 жыл бұрын
just not gonna unlock them, because i dont like them (failed unit historically wise) ..... and i f i dont like them on enemy it would be hypocritical if i would have em myself.... and trust me sieges will not be fun for long time once more and more will unlock the unit... untill they get nerfed ofc. ammo should be MUCH smaller, 2 bursts max because of their power but still want to thank you for youre love of Javi sgts... its my fixed unit in sieges now together with stalw and paladins (the last unit are the ultimate hero killer lol ... just keep placing formation on top of any enemy hero and press attack... instant kill, got me even to a 17 hero kill game)
@mikechansw7483 жыл бұрын
Woah how do u place the paladins on enemy heroes. which formation?
@roelven12823 жыл бұрын
@@mikechansw748 ...just drag and place their formation on top of some fighting heros with x.. .and then press v ...and see the mayhem unfold ;)
@mikechansw7483 жыл бұрын
@@roelven1282 Damnnn sounds EXTREMELY satisying hahaha thanks!! But they have to be alone, without friendly units around, or no?
@roelven12823 жыл бұрын
@@mikechansw748 friendly units are preferrred as always .. because enemy short swords/ glaive or mauls can easily disrupt youre formation
@mikechansw7483 жыл бұрын
@@roelven1282 Yea i mean the enemy commanders have to be without *their* friendly units around, in order for this strat to work haha
@g_santos_r13103 жыл бұрын
They need a nerf
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
They certainly can be quite a pain to fight against
@augustindouvillez44183 жыл бұрын
Just for this unit i’m gonna stop the game
@44kizza443 жыл бұрын
Can we just ask how he didnt get MvP lol
@LesPixad3 жыл бұрын
Didn't take enough dmg
@anthonytu73023 жыл бұрын
Voice is so low hard to hear
@benerickson14323 жыл бұрын
Yay first viewer
@bleo83713 жыл бұрын
If they at least change maps or something this is boring all the time...........................................................
@EvoLozGaming3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I to would like to see some more maps changed
@RecklessGenesis3 жыл бұрын
i am uninstalling now , Wtf is this bullshit . Why do games do this shit ?