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@rahoboclan Жыл бұрын

2022 F350 with 7.3, 4.30 gears, standard bed pulls my 16,500 5er just fine! Only been in the midwest so far but have spent plenty of time in big hills of the Ozark mountains. I'm watching my towing/payload weights carefully as we are full timers. Payload is plenty at 4K and the truck has ZERO issues pulling my RV! Very happy with the choice I made!

@herb7877 2 жыл бұрын

Your points are spot on ! Over the last 45+ years I have owned numerous trucks & rv's. My 2021 F350 was ordered with a 7.3l. I did not want a diesel. I am currently towing a 9k # tt . We recently returned from a 4k mile trip over hills & mtns with a friend that has a GMC diesel & simular tt. He averaged ~1.5 mpg'd better, but was paying $.70 to $1 more per gal than I was as well. I can buy a lot of gas for the $9k+ upfront additional diesel engine, option let alone the fuel difference. I had no issues keeping up or down hills & mtns. If I were towing over 12k # then I'd get one. The accountant in me has looked up a 4 & 5 year old trucks and compared the average list price new vs current value. Yes the diesel sells for more but it cost more to begin with. You're still facing the same % of depreciation though. So you are not gaining anything.

@clg763 Жыл бұрын

Well reasoned and explained 👍

@tkoborny Жыл бұрын

My neighbor owns a diesel repair shop. He has a large 5th wheel and bought a gasser for his tow vehicle. He said newer diesels don’t last like the pre-emission trucks did and they are expensive to repair.

@dragonbutt 2 жыл бұрын

Gas has always been an acceptable option for towing. Diesel of course is the end all answer to towing, but gas towing only briefly stopped being a "thing" in the mid to late 2000s because of advances in diesel tech and the diesel trucks becoming top of the line luxury models. A good example is the truck that rolled into our shop a few days ago to get a hitch. Late 90s dually crew cab chevy with a big gas motor, that the guy was going to use to tow a fifth wheel that had a 16700 gvwr. Plenty capable, plenty doable. Heck, towing with a full size car or wagon was common up into the 90s. If your issue is going up and down hills, slow down and downshift. How you drive > any advantage diesel or gas may provide.

@om617yota8 Жыл бұрын

100%. I have the same thing, a '98 Chevy crew cab dually with the 454. Buddy has an 03 CTD. We can keep up with each other just fine. Maybe if we both towed at the top of our tow ratings, he might do a bit better, but we don't. He does get 2x the fuel mileage I do, empty or loaded, but the premium he paid for the truck will buy me a LOT of gasoline. Ultimately, we're both very happy with our trucks, and that's what matters.

@dragonbutt Жыл бұрын

@@om617yota8 This. You can debate specifications and theories all day long, but either one will work for you unless you're absolutely maxing out your trucks towing capacity.

@fstrthnu373 2 жыл бұрын

2021 7.3 dually with 4:30 gears. Under 20,000 pounds it’s a game changer no need for a diesel. No other gas competition in this category. The 10 speed is magic. My 5th wheel is right at 18,000 and live in western North Carolina mountains. Never have to push it hard. Great setup. Cheaper to buy cheaper to maintain and time in service is non existent compared to any diesel. 7.3 and 10 speed will work for 80% of all people pulling out there.

@beerbelly6670 2 жыл бұрын

Your 💯 % correct. This new 7.3 gas engine with the 10 speed is a game changer. Most these guys with a diesel are just mall crawling anyway.

@slaytanic921 2 жыл бұрын

I am looking at the 7.3 dually with 4.3 as an option for me. It will not be a daily driver but I am still wondering about unloaded and loaded mileage. What are you getting?

@beerbelly6670 2 жыл бұрын

@@slaytanic921 un loaded at 75mph I’m at 15.5 to 16. Loaded idk yet. Around town I’m at 9.5

@slaytanic921 2 жыл бұрын

@@beerbelly6670 awesome, long bed crew cab? How are tire rotations with the extra wheels?

@beerbelly6670 2 жыл бұрын

@@slaytanic921 I’m a short box srw. With 4:30 gears. It has been a power house so far. Very impressed with the acceleration on the freeway

@maureenbessey5361 2 жыл бұрын

So timely a discussion! I think most people looking to buy a truck are considering what they plan to tow and may be making decisions to go with something smaller or lighter that a well-equipped gas truck can safely tow. If camping only on weekends or one big summer trip, the gas truck, if also used as a commuter truck, may be the better choice for the next couple years, especially if resale value holds.

@robertvela7844 9 күн бұрын

I've been in a dilemma about the issues you covered. What a great job you did! Thanks

@kendric5578 2 жыл бұрын

I went with a gas 2500 HD (6.6 L) to pull my 13k 5th wheel. Getting about 8 MPG. It handles it just fine, but down shifts a lot going uphill. The biggest issue I have with it is not being able to go through the truck lanes to refuel. It is an absolute nightmare when getting close to E and having to navigate the crowded narrow gas lanes to refuel with the 5th wheel attached.

@BigfootDadExploresMontana 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed - been in some pretty funny (as in not-funny!) refueling situations with our gas pickup and long trailer.

@brettkienle 2 жыл бұрын

I've ran out of gas several times, when the light comes on you better be looking for a gas station

@legrandechene3734 2 жыл бұрын

That's why I love Bucees. Plenty of room at the gasoline pumps

@dragonbutt 2 жыл бұрын

You gotta be aggressive at the gas stations. People wont give you the time of day, but you're the one with the combined 23000lbs

@detourautotransportllc3275 2 жыл бұрын

The fixing that issue is getting a trailer with two landing gears and not one. Take 3 trailers would be an issue. All you have to do is drop the trailer… fill and go back to the Diesel pad to connect and go.

@joecool509 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. the exhaust brake is by far the best towing accessory.... I can tow my 5th wheel 16k# down a 5% grade and never use my mechanical brakes.. it auto holds speed...

@laneblount9888 2 жыл бұрын

After owning a diesel I don’t see myself going back to a gas truck. Fuel is more expensive but I love the power and sound of my Cummins with some parts missing

@sc4808 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve owned both and my current set up is a 2007 F250 gas with the V10 and 6 speed manual transmission, I absolutely love it, I pull my travel trailer, my boat or farm equipment, trailer weights are from 5000 to 14000 and it handles them all very well. It’s cheaper to maintain and operate and my mpg runs between 8 mpg (heaviest trailer) and 13 mpg (empty at highway speed). Oh, my truck has 4:10 gears. I only drive my truck around 5000 miles per year, I have a company truck that I drive the majority of time.

@stevenfoster5737 2 жыл бұрын

Another relevant video. I have a 6.7 Power Stroke and yes I love it. However it was our choice when we were pulling a 16k lbs toy hauler. We've moved back to a TT and this F350 Power Stroke is overkill and expensive to run and maintain. It would be different if today's diesels we're damn near bullet proof like they were 20 years ago but that just no longer the case. If trucks ever become more reasonable I'll trade in for a 7.3 gasser. Well done again JD. You've become my favorite KZfaqr.

@rooftop7089 2 жыл бұрын

Just traded my 17 250 diesel for a 22 250 7.3. Was nervous about the towing experience but have been truly impressed. I need my truck more for higher payload than towing capacity so it made sense to go gas this time. With the ten speed transmission it keeps the rpm’s lower so your engine isn’t screaming up hills like gas engines of the past. So far in my calculations if diesel stays 50 cents more a gallon than regular gas. I come out ahead having a gasser in costs per mile. Obviously everyone uses there trucks differently and will have different outcomes but I am very happy with my truck so far. Also you said how everyone loves that diesel sound, I would say I am much preferring this gas engine sound over the diesel. I also don’t miss the oily diesel pumps.

@denverbasshead 2 жыл бұрын

What's your payload capacity?

@jaynen 2 жыл бұрын

@@denverbasshead I have a 2020 F350 7.3 Crew cab payload is 4104 hitch rated 15k gooseneck/5er 20k F250 should be 1k less

@claytondennis8034 2 жыл бұрын

@@denverbasshead '21 F-250 Tremor. 7.3L with 4.30 gears. Payload is 2770. 15k bumper pull, 18.7k 5th wheel. Rumor has it that Tremor 3/4 and 1 tons are the same truck, but tagged different for registration purposes.

@denverbasshead 2 жыл бұрын

@@jaynen ok cool, my 250 is a crew cab long bed with the 7.3 and mine is 3003

@rooftop7089 2 жыл бұрын

3005 lbs. old truck was 2100

@claytondennis8034 2 жыл бұрын

I have a '21 F-250 Tremor with the 7.3L and 4.30 gears. I get 15mpg at highway speed unloaded. 14.5 mpg on the interstate.

@texasguy3031 2 жыл бұрын

Timely video. When I’m ready to retire and travel more I’ll probably upgrade to 3/4 for extra payload on longer trips. My TT is around 6k as I travel with max rating of 7k. Even before the surge I was leaning to 7.3l and don’t see me going for diesel. I’d also rather have extra payload in truck vs heavier engine. Gas is definitely option some folks should consider in a superduty.

@livewithnick 2 жыл бұрын

I can remember when diesel fuel was cheaper than gas. I’m not an old man either.

@clg763 Жыл бұрын

It happened way back in 04 after the hurrican Katrina gas spike, it didn't last very long though

@bryanpetersen1334 10 ай бұрын

I remember. It was right before I bought my first diesel truck. But the reason I’ll never buy another, they are garbage now, even the GM motors.

@indiana88 Жыл бұрын

I currently own a 22 Ram 3500 6.7 CTD (standard output). I previously owned a Ram 2500 6.4. On the highway/interstate I get 21+ mpg out of the diesel. I couldn't have dreamed of getting anything better than 16-17 mpg's out of the 6.4. Towing I was getting around 7.5 - 8.5 with the gas and I now get 10.5 - 11.5 with the diesel (towing a 38' 5th wheel around 12,500 pounds). Just throwing this out here for people since I've experienced both in the last year. The gas was a great, capable truck, but she drank fuel like crazy.

@troyehnisz9907 Жыл бұрын

I think the technology of the new diesel trucks have really made a difference in the maintenance costs and decisions people make. The old 7.3 and 12 valve Cummins where very easy to work on and the parts are cheap and readily available.

@josephmaliszewski1683 2 жыл бұрын

Spot on with the weight range. I went with a gas 2500HD since I’m pulling a 11,000 travel trailer. Anything heavier would definitely need a diesel. When I bought my truck the difference between gas and diesel models was closer to $20k.

@bryan876 2 жыл бұрын

Just picked up a 22 F-250 godzilla and love it. I've always wanted a new 6.7 powerstroke but I decided gas was a better option for me. I'm planning on buying a bumper tow toy hauler for camping, with my sxs and all loaded up it will be between 11-12k. I had an f 150 ecoboost that had a bunch of power but that kind of weight is not safe with a half ton. I've been impressed with the power and towing capability of the 7.3 gas. I will only tow heavy a handful of times per year so saving 10K over buying the diesel was a good option. I was also able to get into a nicely loaded lariat for less than a base XLT powerstroke. I also did not want to deal with the maintenance of a new diesel, down the road when I have more available time to tow more often maybe I'll get a diesel but for now the gas was just a smarter option for me.

@GrotrianSeiler 2 жыл бұрын

So many good points were covered. Excellent video.

@oceanwaves83 Ай бұрын

3:27 never heard a 454 called a 7.4L lol. The number 454 is just too iconic!

@Mark-Dibble 2 жыл бұрын

0:17 Thank you! This will really help a family member of mine when I’m not able to take out their trash.

@OpenAirAdventure 2 жыл бұрын

I tow 10,000 lbs 50 hours a year with a F250 gas and I live very close to work. That's all I use the truck for so gas fits my lifestyle perfectly. Thanks for the great video. And yes lots of payload with gas and that's was important for me because I can carry four passengers, generator and wood along with pin weight and still have room.

@wolfpack3121 Жыл бұрын

Extremely grateful for all the information.

@ricwestdoesitwork 2 жыл бұрын

That is some super information JD. I am like you, I have the option to use our GMC Terrain. Because of the cost of diesel I have been thinking of selling our RV and trading my truck for a mid size gas truck. That totally tick me off. I get the best mileage I have even gotten with truck with my diesel truck gets when not towing 14.9 to 15.6 MPG. I never got that good of mileage with a gas engine truck. Thanks for all the video reviews you do and I really enjoy watching the improvements around your new property. Thanks JD

@remitremblay2091 2 жыл бұрын

Hello JD. Great video, and great challenge! We did the work, and went HD Diesel. Price of entry? Steep but manageable. We gave ours a name: (La Bête = The Beast in English). We attached our ORV HD TT (La Belle = The Beauty in English). Price of Diesel: high everywhere! Price of our lives when towing? Priceless! Peace of mind while towing… always! Safe driving friends = no price can be put on security! Remi (Canada)

@robertcampain612 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the clear, concise information! It’s very helpful. I’m researching a 1 ton dually rig for a truck camper. I appreciate your videos!

@akdisney 2 жыл бұрын

sorry add more think about I have see youtubes get flat bed truck and welding brackets to hole the truck camper down. plus side you can make cablet on side of truck camper ( where truck side would be )

@iglapsu88 2 жыл бұрын

Watch runaway roses channel

@dedalliance1 2 жыл бұрын

I would probably get a gasser if you're also not going to be towing a lot. You'll get the higher payload that you need for the camper with a gas truck.

@JB_WhoWork Жыл бұрын

Great video! Can you do an update video on your front/rear bumpers? Wanted to see how well they are holding up, would you paint them again, and would you buy again?

@jdollar5852 2 жыл бұрын

I have an F150 and a 2500 with a Duramax. We go to south Florida for fishing trips each year and I pull a 21' bass boat. Not heavy for sure but I have made the trip 20 times in the past using the 2500. This year I switched to the F150. Similar mpg but gas prices are $1 or more lower than diesel. That adds up on a 1500 mile trip. Another thing is that so many truck stops are just tiny. The F150 is a bit more "nimble" in tight spots.

@SL1800 2 жыл бұрын

I just purchased a “daily driver” 2020 GMC 1500 SLT with the 3.0 Diesel, I just like diesels. I will keep my F250 diesel for pulling the fifth wheel.

@dragonbutt 2 жыл бұрын

In the end thats all it is. Sheer preference.

@paulwuzhere Жыл бұрын

I've had a 2020 F250 7.3 Tremor since Jan 2020. Tows a 30ft toy hauler loaded about 9500lbs. Tall and widebody trailer with zero issue. Glad I went 7.3

@Dan-wt7jx 2 жыл бұрын

Bucket on the tractor and a strap is my favorite method for moving the trash to the street. I can put them both in the bucket and drop em right where they need to be

@shutupstoopid4518 2 жыл бұрын

My 7.3 godzilla does fine and I don't have to use unicorn piss in the exhaust

@GMCJay_lly 2 жыл бұрын

My diesel truck doesn't use it either.

@bmlandmanagementco4981 2 жыл бұрын

@@GMCJay_lly same here.

@dragonbutt 2 жыл бұрын

Also it sounds better :P

@Alex.AL_26 2 жыл бұрын

The biggest trailer I tow is a 7x16 utility trailer and loaded to the max it weight is about 9500 pounds which my F250 with the 6.2L gas engine can tow no problem.

@sprayhawk808 2 жыл бұрын

Even with the cost of diesel, I am very happy that we have a '20 F350 DRW Powerstroke. It is a beast and makes this #flatlander capable of pulling our 43' 14k fifth wheel through the Rockies. The pulling power is amazing, but what has made the biggest difference is the engine/exhaust brake. That is the benefit of the diesel motor that I would miss the most. And I make these comments AFTER a 4,000 mile trip to California, spending about $2300 on just fuel.

@bishopgeorge1333 2 жыл бұрын

I bought mine 2022 ram 3500 diesel because I was towing my 13k 5th wheel, well now I traded my fiver in for a 2022 gas motorhome so now I really don't need to pull heavy and going with gas will be a good ideal. I like my diesel ram and I will probably keep it but just drive it less, I just bought a new Hyundai Venue to tow behind my MH so I might just drive that more. Awesome video sir I love your channel.

@everettbrown9452 Жыл бұрын

I have a 2019 2500hd 6.0 gas, the trailer is a 297qb, going down hill the Trans brake kicks in, and does a good job, but like you said. The exhaust brake is better, have no issues towing. Love my set up

@jaynen 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I wish Ford would sell me a F450 for the better turning radius but with the 7.3

@matthewanderson9912 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with a lot of what you said. Another point that’s worth adding is if the truck also serves as a daily driver what kind of driving conditions will it be driven in. For me, I have a relatively short trip to work so my truck gets driven 30 miles a day. That’s a little tough on new diesels with their emissions and one of the main reasons I chose a gas engine this time around. I have a 2022 Chevy 2500 with the 6.6 gas. I had a 2020 Chevy 2500 with the Duramax. It got about 2 mpg better both empty and towing my enclosed car trailer. So the fuel mileage difference is not nearly as much as people think. Atleast mine wasn’t. Payload is not that much different in the GM trucks however because of the increased GVWRs. Most gas trucks have a 10650 GVWR and most diesels have a 11350 GVWR. So that’s not much of a concern with GMs.

@steverefling5595 2 жыл бұрын

Another benefit of a diesel truck is having the ability to fill up at a truck stop in the truck lanes.

@dennislarosajr7320 2 жыл бұрын

This was my biggest debate when I got my truck. I ended up with a ram 14 2500 6.4 with the 4.10 gears mb 6 years ago. I can currently sell my truck for what I paid for it. My TT was only 7500lbs and I really don't tow that much. Perfect truck for my needs. Buy the truck for your needs, not fuel prices.

@javadose317 Жыл бұрын

You can sell it for what you bought it for 6 years ago..?

@dennislarosajr7320 Жыл бұрын

@Midwest Entertainment I got mine used for $30k. Has110,000 miles on it

@bmlandmanagementco4981 2 жыл бұрын

Talking about safety with exhaust brakes,…I started thinking about the Jake Brake on the converted Kenworth that I used to own. When going down steeper hills,…I’d only have to downshift one full gear. All other hills was 17th gear, or just let it Jake Brake in 18th.

@paullutz457 2 жыл бұрын

Where I live in Crescent City, CA it costs me $145 to fill my 04 F250 with the V10. It tackles any task that I throw at it. It’s also easy to work on vs a diesel in my opinion.

@campingwiththecothrens4085 2 жыл бұрын

We just upgraded to a 2020 f350 dually KR. Excited to tow the trailer when we go to camp Fimfo in a few weeks.

@leftturnaudio5678 Жыл бұрын

The new 6.6l gas Chevy pulls 20,000 lbs and has more payload depending on package and rearend. I pull a 15,000 lbs 5th wheel with no issues. Timbren springs really improved stability as well.

@glenntalbot6756 Жыл бұрын

This is my second year with a 41 foot 5th wheel,, I Love fueling at truck stops ( pull throughs) I couldn't imagine swinging that trailer around gas pumps! They are so crowded and everyone is in a hurry.

@bryantcreech7423 2 жыл бұрын

One of the biggest pains with towing a big trailer with a gas truck is it's not always easy to find a gas station you can fit in. Alot easier to just pull into any truck stop and get diesel.

@baddawg3380 Жыл бұрын

When I was looking for a 3/4 ton back in 2018, I did a lot of research between the gas and diesel, I found the break even point cost wise on a diesel is about 150,000 miles. I went with the gas 6.0L. it'll take probably over twenty years before I'm even close to that. I pull a 33' Rockwood 5th wheel, when I'm just flat towing I get about 10 but in the hills going up to Reno it drops to about 7. Another thing I like about the gas engine is that it's flex fuel so I can run E85 when I'm not towing and right now its about 1.30 a gallon cheaper then regular gas.

@douglewis1960 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you it was great I forgot a lot reminding me a lot thank you

@xx505xxx6 2 жыл бұрын

My grandma showed me that trick at the beginning years ago lol that it was genius

@PatHaskell 2 жыл бұрын

My experience in a turbocharged diesel, is fuel mileage is much more dependent on how you drive compared to a gasoline engine.

@chrisnwilm 2 жыл бұрын

I’ll keep my diesel any day. 2022 DRW LTZ Silverado. Got lucky, dealership had it offloaded the night before I stopped by to order. I absolutely love the truck.

@joemiles6917 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2019 F150 with a diesel. I love it.

@ericvisser113 2 жыл бұрын

Yup! Also crunch the numbers... There are additional costs of a diesel to consider (e.g. oil change) however this can help in making the decision. "Miles to break even" = "cost of diesel engine option" / ("diesel cost per gallon" / "diesel mpg" - "gas cost per gallon" / "gas mpg")

@dedalliance1 2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget emissions, If that DPF filter gets clogged or breaks you're looking anywhere from 4 to 10k dollars getting it replaced. I have a 2014 Chevy Cruze 2.0l diesel and just this week was quoted 3k dollars to get the dpf filter replaced, at 130k miles. I found a company that cleans dpf filters and they cleaned it up for 550 dollars but I had to take it off and then put it back on myself, or you have to pay a shop to do that which would probably be another 500 dollars. I talked to the guys cleaning the dpf filter and they said they do a lot of work for semi drivers who get their stuff cleaned every 100k miles, probably just as preventive maintenance so they don't get stranded, but if you assume something similar on a diesel truck that's probably 1,500 or more every 100k miles just another cost to consider. Plus the actual dpf fluid. If it was 2017 and you could still just get deleted at your local mechanic that'd be one thing but not anymore unless you really know someone who trusts you.

@dmanmb 2 жыл бұрын

My experience (2013 f250 work truck with 6.2 gas engine), the truck runs out of suspension before running out of motor. Tow 12-13,000 with it and haul as much as 4000 in the bed. Neither done daily. If I were to tow much more, I would want a diesel, but also the extra suspension and tires on a dually.

@nickizcool20 Жыл бұрын

DIESEL 100%! I just went to St Augustine florida from northern VA in ONE TANK OF GAS ⛽️. I have a 2023 F250! Most amazing trick ever. So much towing power! Love it 😍 😊

@michaelfinley9988 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2020 F450 with a 68 gallon upgraded tank. Yes it hurts to fill my tank, but I tow a 14k 5th wheel all over the country many times in the mountains. The piece of mind and safety factor of having an exhaust brake and the torque of a diesel motor pulling through the mountains far outweigh the savings of a gas engine equivalent truck. Possibly having more payload and towing capacity with a gas engine HD truck sounds great on paper, but stopping or braking that rig in the mountains would be a nail biting experience in my opinion. I will always go with a diesel. There is no price to pay for safety. Plus getting gas at a gas station vs diesel at a truck stop with a large 5th wheel would be a nightmare getting in and out of the station.

@johnmorgan1629 2 жыл бұрын

In south Texas the fuel prices are not as steep as other areas such as CA, gas or diesel.

@photomasterstudios9495 2 жыл бұрын

Currently I'm towing a 6000lbs with a '99 f350 6.8L V10 is typically OK except for uphill at altitude since the truck is screaming with wide-open throttle and I'm losing 5-10mph speed-wise. I love that truck to death but it's still doesn't have the grunt that a diesel may have potentially. While at the pump it's still painful since it gets 10-12mpg unladen and about 5-7mpg towing.

@TonkaFire2019 2 жыл бұрын

I miss my 3.0l Sierra, downsized back to a Tacoma. Currently my town diesel is 5.79 and gas is 4.60. And Ct just increased the tax on diesel by 9 cents.

@MichaelVanHeemst 2 жыл бұрын

The solution is a pre-emissions diesel

@MrRod632 Жыл бұрын

They are going the way of dinosaurs now. Extinct

@MichaelVanHeemst Жыл бұрын

@@MrRod632 No, they aren’t

@troyehnisz9907 Жыл бұрын

Pre emission diesels re sale has gone way up after the epa crack down on deleting my 2001 f350 is selling for more than the original sticker price

@royalpools 2 жыл бұрын

we use the cansporter its the best one weve seen for moving trash cans easily

@edgarcorrea7866 Жыл бұрын

If you're more concerned about payload than you don't tow enough to warrant a diesel. Anyone that tows knows that there is not a lot of weight on the hitch if it is balanced correctly. If you want that long bed and high payload than towing isn't your main priority. I used to think 3/4 ton gassers were the most useless things I've ever seen. You're paying for the body of a towing vehicle then getting a gas engine that kills it towing capacity. It's so backwards just get a 1/2 ton w/ a towing package, but now that the price of diesel is so high it starts to make more sense. I've also never seen the need for such a high payload if equipment can be easily moved in a trailer. Maybe if you're using a utility bed that makes sense but I haven't heard of one of those weighing 4k lbs.

@azelshort4177 Жыл бұрын

I’ve just slowed down recently, 60mph gets me good mileage and I generally never have to slow down. It sucks at first but isn’t so bad once you get used to it.

@tattooedmillionair Жыл бұрын

In a way it is very nice (slowing down). Now (you're) driving slow enough for good mileage and let all the "crazy" drivers fly by you because they have to go somewhere, but not so slow that "a stick in the mud" as long as you stay to the right side of the road (in the US). 🙂

@thesnottynosekid9985 2 жыл бұрын

I got a 2005 f-250 6.0 diesel King Ranch with 241k miles on it. It has heavy duty rear suspension and i tow a 2022 Grand Design Reflection 31mb with it. When towing i get between 10 and 12 mpg and when im not towing i get about 17 mpg.

@The87driver 2 жыл бұрын

Just picked up a 2022 f350 dually with the 7.3 and 430 gears. Can’t wait to hook up my 13,000 lb fifth wheel and test it out. Coming from a 99 dually it should be night and day. I really hope I don’t regret not getting the diesel.

@dereknew5298 2 жыл бұрын

Please keep us updated on your new truck. I just ordered the same setup (dually F350 7.3 4:30). I will be towing a 14k FW. I am really interested in how it performs.

@slaytanic921 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, keep us posted. This is the setup I am looking at. I will be towing a 5th wheel that is 8,300 pounds empty but want the payload to load a toy on a roof deck over the cab. Won’t be my daily driver but am interested in empty and loaded mileage.

@davidcaskey4669 Жыл бұрын

If you regret it call me just what Im loiking for

@The87driver Жыл бұрын

Just got my goose box on the fifth wheel and took it for a test run with the new 7.3. Boy was I impressed by the performance of this truck. I don’t regret it at all. The run was from vegas south towards phoenix and back. It was mostly hills and interstate. Truck did well and 10 speed was more than capable of handling the 13000 lb rig. 430 gears was the right choice I think.

@michaelhotaling1931 Жыл бұрын

Getting the ‘22 F250 with the 7.3 and 4.30 gears. Can’t wait! Read elsewhere that at todays prices, one would have to go a few 100k miles to break even with the cost difference on a diesel.

@1robertmkelly 2 жыл бұрын

Where I live in Colorado, the price of the lowest octane gas is about 50 cents less than diesel, but the price of premium gas is about 40 cents more than diesel. Mid grade and high grade gas is very expensive, much like diesel, so that really affects the choice.

@Kjellmclean 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure diesel fuel prices will come back down after enough people trade-in for gas trucks! (And after '24 when we can Make America Great Again, again!) 😁🇺🇲

@riccochet704 2 жыл бұрын

In my opinion there is zero reason to buy a 3/4 ton diesel. You lose 1000 lbs of payload with a diesel leaving you with 1800-2100 of total payload. That's going to severely limit what you can tow. Forget about a 5th wheel or gooseneck unless it's a really light one. 2 adults and some tools in the cab and you have about 1500 lbs of payload left to work with. Fine for a decent sized travel trailer, but a well equipped 1/2 ton could pull it as well. At least with a gas 3/4 ton you have 3000 lbs or more of payload to work with. That opens up some decent sized 5th wheels as an option. As long as you can keep pin weight around 2300-2400 lbs. Anyways, that's my opinion on 3/4 ton trucks.

@dedalliance1 2 жыл бұрын

3/4 ton short bed diesel trucks are the most useless thing I've ever seen people spend money on lol. At least get the long bed, but yeah going to a 1 ton might be a couple thousand dollars more but you're really opening up your payload capacity. I have a 2018 GMC Sierra Crew Cab Long Bed SLE 4x4 6.0l gasser payload is 4k pounds max towing is 14k pounds, unless it's some kind of weirdly loaded trailer you can not max out the payload if you stay at 14k pounds or less. It's the perfectly balanced truck like all trucks should be but these guys wanna tow 17k pounds with their 3/4 ton diesel truck with a short bed extended cab on rubber band tires, a 6" lift and the hood praying to Jesus lol. Obviously they failed math class.

@Ken_Koonz Жыл бұрын

My wife's diesel 250 has a payload of 2747 pounds.

@fedguy9182 Жыл бұрын

@@Ken_Koonz That is pretty good for a 3/4 diesel. Many of the 3/4 diesel trucks I looked at had payloads of 1900 to 2200 lbs. My 350 diesel lariat had 3600lb payload. Just depends how much payload you need. In my case the tongue weight of the travel trailer and gear we wanted to bring required a hefty payload number.

@danielfalcon1989 Жыл бұрын

My 2021 F250 diesel has a payload capacity of 2795lbs.

@fedguy9182 Жыл бұрын

@@danielfalcon1989 Is Ford increasing the GVWR of the new 250's over 10,000 lbs? What trim package is your 21 250 6.7?

@dennyoconnor8680 Жыл бұрын

I have farms and we haul a lot so our trucks are 2500 diesels. The current Duramax diesels we operate get 17 mpg in daily running and 21 mpg at highway speeds (empty and no trailer). I would love to operate 1/2 ton gassers but they don't haul.

@michaelparks3106 Жыл бұрын

Another thing to consider is the repair cost when it breaks. I had an '89 Chevy van with the 6.2 diesel and the fuel pump started leaking one day. It was difficult to find a repair shop, and was very expensive to have it rebuilt. My '14 Chevy van has the 6.0 gas engine and tows my 7,000lb travel trailer just fine. Any reasonably competent mechanic can repair it and parts are cheap and easy to find. Personally, having had both I would only buy a diesel if my trailer was so large there was no gas option to pull it.

@kevinvanlohuizen2709 2 жыл бұрын

Love my 7.3 250. I don't tow over 10k, and runs around town and idles, would be worried doing that with modern emissions. If I towed more often and heavier I would go diesel.

@enz6312 2 жыл бұрын

Many of the newer gas models offer the ability to use cruise control while towing and offer a good amount of engine breaking. TFL tested a F350 7.4 on their Ike Gauntlet test not too long ago towing about 13K. It offered some of the best engine "breaking" out of many of the trucks they have tested including diesels. They don't use cruise control when doing this test and the cruise control system is actually supposed to offer even better breaking. That being said, the diesel would be my choice on anything over 18K in weight.

@chriswilson433 Жыл бұрын

I have recently been thinking about this alot. I have been needing to get into a larger truck for work and arrived at a F350 SRW with a long bed. I need the bed length and cargo capacity for tools, but the flex capacity to also tow. I always considered the diesel because I would be able to get a good used one for a good price(pre-Covid, obviously). But as I keep looking at the price difference for the powertrain, maintenance(and repair) costs and fuel costs, it doesn’t seem to make sense anymore. Couple that with the HUGE payload difference between the gas and diesel and I just don’t see the benefit anymore(for my application). The 7.3L gas seems to be a fantastic option for buyers in the middle, like me. Now, if a diesel would deliver 20ish mpg, then I would still consider it, but regular drivers just aren’t getting that.

@naberius420 2 жыл бұрын

Here in Wichita, I can't even fill '95 f350 completely full of diesel without going to a truck stop. The pump cuts off at $125. We are still on the "cheaper" end of the price spectrum...hovering around $5.00/gallon

@billm2516 2 жыл бұрын

JD great video. Just the price of diesel from 2020 to know is ridiculous. It costs me between $120 and $140 to fill up my 2020 Chevrolet Silverado with the 3.0 Duramax. Then you have to add $22 for 2.5 gallons of DEF. It is crazy but I will never go back to a gas truck. I can average 25mpg to 33mpg with the 3.0 Duramax. I did consider a 2020 F450 but that was the first year Ford offered the F450 with 10 speed transmission and I wasn't sure how it would hold up.

@acesh5606 3 ай бұрын

I bought 2500 hd diesel for my landscaping company and it is totally worth it, you can pull more and you get at least 30% more mpg

@armytruth6860 2 жыл бұрын

I brought a 2022 F350 XLT crewcab LB 4x4 with a 7.3 fully loaded for 62K Stop buying used vehicles for msrp,

@toddonsite4169 Жыл бұрын

i have an 2021 f350 7.3 gas srw 4.30 gears crewcab 8 ft long box lariat towed 600 miles at 11,000 lbs trailer load with a 2020 f250 6.7 l turbo diesel srw 3.73 gears 6ft box crewcab lariat loaded the same with 11,000 lbs trailer and we were 1 mpg different in fuel. 10.7 mpg gas vs 11.6 mpg diesel , absolutely game changer , the f350 weighs 9100lbs (2250 heavier) the way i have it optioned up . the diesel weighs 6850 lbs . we since traded the diesel for another gas 7.3 .

@Tobymt1925 2 жыл бұрын

We call those garbage 🗑 cans here in Louisiana...🤣 Love your videos 👍

@bmlandmanagementco4981 2 жыл бұрын

Kinda like what y’all call four wheelers down there,…we call them quads out here, lol.

@leighmcqueeney9848 Жыл бұрын

Gas is $2 per gallon cheaper than diesel here in Tennessee. And when I was touring Australia the savings in diesel was completely destroyed by the extra servicing costs for diesel.

@darkhorse2reign Жыл бұрын

I'm not a big believer in changing big ticket items because some other factor changed. I made a decision and I live with it. Usually, the cycle flips back anyhow.

@VetBodGaming Жыл бұрын

We won't ever be going over a 9-10k lb trailer but we still plan on going with a diesel. I'll have my car as a daily driver and the truck will be used for road trips and taking the RV out. We do plan on going over the Appalachians as well at least once a year so the better highway mileage and towing experience is worth it for us even though it limits our vehicle options due to payload capacity. If RAM could just up their payload by 500lbs on the 4x4 crew cab it'd be an easy buy on the 2500 cummins

@johnhenderson9255 2 жыл бұрын

I would add how often and how far you plan on traveling makes a big difference in engine choice. If you are camping 2 or 3 times a year and traveling less than 300 miles I would consider a gas a lot higher in the current market.

@VetBodGaming Жыл бұрын

definitely this, especially with the mountains. Ive seen diesels get up to 5-6mpg difference in real world testing while towing. When you go on trips 800+ miles that makes a difference and this huge price difference won't stay forever. Not to mention the peace of mind of knowing my brakes are 100% in the mountains because of the exhaust brake.

@jnk26 Жыл бұрын

The difference in fuel economy is hands down worth the $10k. Up here in Canada diesel is $9.07/gal. My 2020 Super Duty F250(HCTTP) 4x4. Just the truck is getting average 22-24mpg on the highway. 13mpg towing a 8500lb fifthwheel and a 3500lb second trailer. I test drove 4 different 7.3s and NOT ONE could hold a candle to the 6.7 and my towing mileage is near the empty milage of the 7.3.

@Ody-up6kg 2 жыл бұрын

If I am towing under 10K, I will opt for the gas engine unless I am towing most of the time. I will be content to let the engine rev up the grades. The difference in fuel costs and dramatic increase in maintenance costs for diesel makes it a no brainer for me.

@andrewnolan2228 2 жыл бұрын

I just sold my 2017 f250 6.2 for a 2017 f250 6.7 and my experience on the unloaded fuel mileage is that it’s 30-40% better from the diesel. The 17s show zero to empty around 29 gallons of the 34 gallon tank. On the 6.2 I was getting under 300 miles to zero, the diesel I am much closer to 400. That’s the only point I may challenge here. Otherwise great video great points.

@landonmccoy6369 2 жыл бұрын

In making my truck ordering decision recently it has become my guideline that of I'm towing heavy enough to require dual rear wheels then the diesel would be my choice. In deciding to stay with a single rear wheel I favored the 7.3 "Godzilla" gas option. The power of that motor with the suspension capabilities of the SRW on the Superduty seem to be an almost perfect match for me...

@treeamigo8447 Жыл бұрын

I watched another review and the guy said if you order the Tremor package with the f250, it also comes with the same axle and suspension that the srw 3500 has.

@jessesneed2364 2 жыл бұрын

I'm backwards from most people. I own an ex U-Haul 2005 GMC C-5500 8.1 gas with 26' flatbed and a 2005 Volkswagen beetle TDI. I only use the GMC for hauling 10k lbs of pallets and use the VW for daily.

@SoonerMikeD 2 жыл бұрын

I can only hope my driveway is long enough one day I need to tow my trash can back and forth 😂

@timdennis5853 Жыл бұрын

Great video. It is a strange time indeed. Trucks are off the charts expensive. Buying used is very difficult because of all the options. Dealers don’t know how to explain the truck attributes over email or text. I went with the power stroke. It’s not a daily drive so diesel isn’t a major issue. Plus joined open roads to save a chunk. I still hope for fuel price relief in 2024!!!

@dchosen6341 Жыл бұрын

Really good video

@bearkatljl 2 жыл бұрын

I ordered a 2022 F-350 DRW in September and took delivery i December. I considered going with the 7.3 gas. However, I know me and I know that with my Powerstroke I can be hauling 17 bales of hay or my 100hp cab tractor and 15' batwing on my 32" dual tandem goosneck and still accelerate. While the 7.3 will move the load, I'm sure, it won't be able to pick up speed.

@tkendr01 Жыл бұрын

We are very satisfied with 2022 RAM 2500 4x4 Laramie Hemi crew cab.

@eliahsmith9512 Жыл бұрын

Hi Big Truck Big RV my name is Eliah. I have been watching your channel for a few years now. I find the video’s interesting helpful and informative I am looking to get a truck in the future for my Landscaping and Excavation Business. Because of the of the engine-break, the only engine I will ever choose (for business use) is diesel. The reasons for this is (1) for safety and (2) for downhill performance. And (3) is i do not overheat my brakes. The truck of choice is an ford f-550 with a 6.7L 450 HP and 1000 to 1100 lb-ft. I plan to get the truck RETUNED roughly back to its pickup truck counterpart’s factory setting. The trailer of choice will be a Diamond C 44’ 40,000 lbs GVWR with deck-on-the-neck. I plan to use this for hauling my equipment and supplies during my busy months and hotshoting in my slower months.

@barrobby1 10 ай бұрын

Other bigger issue with modern diesels is the exaust after treatment system that will leave you stranded on the highway someday, maybe on Christmas night travels like me and my wife. Oh, that was fun!!!

@zachsheffield1325 Жыл бұрын

There’s so many aftermarket packages that are cheaper than from the Stealerships! With enough horsepower a gas engine that’s large enough with twin turbos can make diesel torque!! You can also down to them for a few icon me when you’re not towing something heavy!?