Constantine vs Doom - Who would win?

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WebCamParrot

WebCamParrot

4 жыл бұрын

John Constantine and Doctor Doom fight! But who would come out on top? I discuss that exact subject in this video. First we go over John Constantine and Doom at their peak then we get to a good ol Base Constantine vs Base Doom speculation.
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@WebCamParrot
@WebCamParrot 4 жыл бұрын
Let me know if there are any other matchups you guys would like to see!
@imreplyingtothiscomment2378
@imreplyingtothiscomment2378 4 жыл бұрын
Gonna do a vs battle with toriko?
@breslingabino2881
@breslingabino2881 4 жыл бұрын
WebCamParrot do Superman vs hulk
@imreplyingtothiscomment2378
@imreplyingtothiscomment2378 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tone_Of_Dials why ask?
@KiDSZN
@KiDSZN 4 жыл бұрын
Doomsday vs hulk
@oohyah7
@oohyah7 4 жыл бұрын
Hey bro! You think you could do a powerscale of super tengen toppa gurren lagann?
@christianmegachad2898
@christianmegachad2898 4 жыл бұрын
constantine had outerversal lung cancer
@JordanWheeler1999
@JordanWheeler1999 3 жыл бұрын
ok
@rememberme3762
@rememberme3762 3 жыл бұрын
@@JordanWheeler1999 Souka
@melkor9121
@melkor9121 3 жыл бұрын
And he outright forced the triumvirate to cure it
@shady8045
@shady8045 3 жыл бұрын
i mean by that logic goku had a star level heart virus
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Krypto vs Dex-Starr
@liquidsleepgames3661
@liquidsleepgames3661 4 жыл бұрын
He is a good kitty to bad about his owner.
@xen1313
@xen1313 4 жыл бұрын
@@liquidsleepgames3661 Dex-Starr is my favorite Red Lantern.
@tyronjasonhuff
@tyronjasonhuff 4 жыл бұрын
What did DeX do to you?krypto is not weak. In fact kal and krypto are more akin to a trained police officer and a k9. Krypto isn't stronger than kal but he is faster.
@JohnnyCageRock
@JohnnyCageRock 4 жыл бұрын
"Synchronicity wave." Nah mate, you misspelled "plot armour."
@jgeezjoj
@jgeezjoj 4 жыл бұрын
lol
@dimensionlordgambitmccoy9727
@dimensionlordgambitmccoy9727 4 жыл бұрын
You mean Infinite plot armour
@alfa01spotivo
@alfa01spotivo 4 жыл бұрын
what is everyone's obsession with saying plot armor as a joke?
@thereseemstobeenanerror1219
@thereseemstobeenanerror1219 4 жыл бұрын
@@alfa01spotivo it's just a way to poke fun at heroes having, absurd defenses or surviving things that they really shouldn't.
@shady8045
@shady8045 3 жыл бұрын
he explained why it wasnt that in another video
@hewhomakesnosound
@hewhomakesnosound 4 жыл бұрын
Bro, you're asking the questions no one else is willing to ponder. Good on you mate.
@walterstreete9196
@walterstreete9196 4 жыл бұрын
You’ve become one of my favorite channels more vs battles and character power videos please!
@Dionisio97
@Dionisio97 4 жыл бұрын
Walter Streete PLEASE!
@alltheworldsastage4785
@alltheworldsastage4785 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he is a comic book master and genius.
@uwotm8634
@uwotm8634 4 жыл бұрын
I asked this question on your Doom video, didn't expect you to make a video on it, really cool stuff!
@Taka-yn9ur
@Taka-yn9ur 4 жыл бұрын
Synchronicity Wave, aka, the most powerful armor in all of fiction...plot armor.
@rev.jonathanwint6038
@rev.jonathanwint6038 4 жыл бұрын
He also forfeited those Powers getting rid of his brothers soul. Which was kind of a ship move since his brother's ghost was not bothering him just kind of tagging along.
@randywilson6376
@randywilson6376 4 жыл бұрын
You've done your homework my friend, I've been reading comics for decades and you've nailed this match up greatly. People forget what makes a lot of these characters great. John Constantine is one of the greatest characters ever written. Respect Doom, fear Constantine! Nuff said.
@jormangundrs1127
@jormangundrs1127 4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@TheJayspyder
@TheJayspyder 4 жыл бұрын
The Synchronicity Wave has to be one of the most overpowered and disgustingly broken abilities in fiction. Only DC could have something like that.
@godzillakingofthemonsters5812
@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 4 жыл бұрын
If only that same effort went into their writing and characters.
@quasar3083
@quasar3083 4 жыл бұрын
you forgot goku has akira toriyama
@shiningshadow4157
@shiningshadow4157 4 жыл бұрын
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 DC characters are way better written than marvel ones
@godzillakingofthemonsters5812
@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 4 жыл бұрын
@@shiningshadow4157 That's funny
@shiningshadow4157
@shiningshadow4157 4 жыл бұрын
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 That's true
@pongopea
@pongopea 4 жыл бұрын
Constantine is very powerful, so's Doom, but damn this "Synchronicity Wave" thing is one of the biggest plot armor things I've ever seen
@danilovonsquawk572
@danilovonsquawk572 4 жыл бұрын
Constantine's greatest ability is essentially Plot Armour Incarnate?
@sussy-gussy
@sussy-gussy Жыл бұрын
Marvel fans when they don't got anything on debate :
@uglyweirdo1389
@uglyweirdo1389 4 жыл бұрын
You didnt address the other side of Constantine's luck. Yes he is always in the right place at the right time but it always comes at a cost. John would defeat DOOM in the end but it would cost him absolutely EVERYTHING. Remember that John is the evil twin.
@tctc4413
@tctc4413 4 жыл бұрын
hmmm , methinks everything + tim hunter
@monitor-mindtheover-void6712
@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, that's a good point but what ever cost will be, he will have to pay it after his work is done (which in this case is winning against doom). More importantly, his luck is not due to some magic or his demon blood, it due him being a laughing magician, which is his family heritage.
@melkor9121
@melkor9121 3 жыл бұрын
@@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 yep the syncronicity wave does not cost him anything it is his lineage ability
@monitor-mindtheover-void6712
@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 3 жыл бұрын
@@melkor9121 yah
@dclangst
@dclangst 4 жыл бұрын
Doom would find a way to beat himself. Doom is always a god in the making with the hubris to match.
@coteturpin-ellis7851
@coteturpin-ellis7851 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. A lot of people don't understand how Constantine's luck works.
@rubenvillanuevarubio1796
@rubenvillanuevarubio1796 Жыл бұрын
Neather he does. He absolutley exagerated his synchronicity wave travelling. He uses the ability on a very basic level instinctually, as it was really his unborn brother who was meant to control it, being the golden boy. It does not make John invinicible by anymeans, just gives him some extra luck sometimes, as he is not always walking through it, and makes him inmune to omniscience.
@Hellblazer-ds1bn
@Hellblazer-ds1bn 5 ай бұрын
​@@rubenvillanuevarubio1796true I mean the way golden boy used synchronicity wave left me flabbergasted
@rubenvillanuevarubio1796
@rubenvillanuevarubio1796 5 ай бұрын
@@Hellblazer-ds1bn Yeah but the golden boy was the chosen one, he had absolute control in syncronicity wave, John can walk into it sometimes and gets some luck, golen boy could control all events. He even made john get Cancer
@Band_Of_The_Falcon
@Band_Of_The_Falcon 4 жыл бұрын
So basically... He wins because he's unfair? So... Constantine can beat most people then?
@paulrazvan2425
@paulrazvan2425 4 жыл бұрын
Of course
@Band_Of_The_Falcon
@Band_Of_The_Falcon 4 жыл бұрын
What's the point of making the video then?!!?
@paulrazvan2425
@paulrazvan2425 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe making him more known to people ? I do not know.
@Band_Of_The_Falcon
@Band_Of_The_Falcon 4 жыл бұрын
Well, he could've told us that he's powered by Gods divine semen and basically no one can beat him in the character analysis... or did i miss that part
@paulrazvan2425
@paulrazvan2425 4 жыл бұрын
@@Band_Of_The_Falcon He s lesser known to mainstream audience. Putting him into VS series is a neat idea which might cause some rage to other people. But he s not unbeatable. Depends on the situation. In comics or media he s just a human. With demon blood transfused into him at some point though, but same .
@mentalvomit8703
@mentalvomit8703 4 жыл бұрын
Im a huge Doom fan but i think Constantine has this. Constantine is too sneaky and out plays cosmic beings and Doom relies on his tech more than in magic in most cases.
@therealchristian1
@therealchristian1 4 жыл бұрын
Also his tech is modified to deal with magic. Also Constantine is a pretty smart cookie but I really don’t think that he could outsmart doom. Cosmic beings are out of touch, doom also has a habit of outsmarting them.
@Dr.Osterman
@Dr.Osterman 4 жыл бұрын
Leeroy Dagnasty Constantine is just more cunning than doom
@Neon1880
@Neon1880 4 жыл бұрын
Leeroy Dagnasty ya but Constantine is just literally hacks
@mentalvomit8703
@mentalvomit8703 3 жыл бұрын
@Dami also Doom has an ego that constanine would 100% exploit
@paragmurthy5411
@paragmurthy5411 10 ай бұрын
Yea but doctor doom tricked dumb gods like pre retcon beyonder which he needed galactus tech his powers and the beyonder tech which even normal humans can use with no problem and silver surfer was being a jobber when he took his powers and in secret wars for the beyonders he needed molecule man to take their powers and gave him it than molecule man took it away
@chocolito9461
@chocolito9461 4 жыл бұрын
John Constantine It's like the batman of the magical world, he can do anything given prep time
@Cipher_Paul
@Cipher_Paul 2 жыл бұрын
Except even Batman admitted Constantine was better than him at planning 😂
@Govanna348
@Govanna348 4 жыл бұрын
I"m the greatest mate
@Govanna348
@Govanna348 4 жыл бұрын
@John Constantine Bloody hell but are u as good looking as me mate
@sonicsucks20
@sonicsucks20 3 жыл бұрын
Bug bunny: I beg ta diffa, doc.
@shawntaylor1594
@shawntaylor1594 4 жыл бұрын
I will say an awesome breakdown on both characters powers & ability and I saw no bias so I must agree with you P.S. another amazing video keep up the good work
@ccsk6548
@ccsk6548 4 жыл бұрын
This video was amazing. You need more subscribers.
@thisguy3500
@thisguy3500 4 жыл бұрын
You're mistaken if you think Dr. Doom would lower his majesty, to battle a parasite such as Constantine. A Doombot would be sent to capture Constantine for experimentation.
@maxmustermann9058
@maxmustermann9058 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered scaling Magi ? I would be especially interested in a Sinbad breakdown
@TheTiger2311
@TheTiger2311 4 жыл бұрын
WebCamParrot :I don't agree, because you fail to mention Doom genius and ability to overcome very powerful entities like Constantine fought .For example, Mephisto he pretty much consider the devil of Marvel on the same level of the Spector and Phantom Stranger ? Doom done so many feets ,for so many years all of them can't just be mention in one siting.
@LarryBonson
@LarryBonson 4 жыл бұрын
@@closegripbenchpress489 When has the living Tribunal died in canon?
@xXLunatikxXlul
@xXLunatikxXlul 3 жыл бұрын
@@LarryBonson against Lord Chaos and Master Order.
@lolxd3337
@lolxd3337 Жыл бұрын
@@LarryBonson against beyonders
@user-lp8im7ow8s
@user-lp8im7ow8s 3 ай бұрын
That's negged by his various other intelligence feats as well , so it's not a factor here.
@rev.jonathanwint6038
@rev.jonathanwint6038 4 жыл бұрын
Constantine Lost most of these powers. His luck effect was from his unborn brother..And never had them all at the same time..Match sticks wear from the tree life and he had only 3 and used them. if you keep using all powers he ever had but not at one time it be like Dr with God power beyonder power and Vibranum Power and... I could keep going..
@alltheworldsastage4785
@alltheworldsastage4785 4 жыл бұрын
Hellblazer wins, bro, give it up
@eeveemaster8902
@eeveemaster8902 4 жыл бұрын
This is fine till Constantine summons a demon or two to posses him or even to fight doom So Constantine will always have the advantage
@MUISHAGGY572
@MUISHAGGY572 4 жыл бұрын
If John is smoking a cigarette he automatically wins.
@Dr.Osterman
@Dr.Osterman 4 жыл бұрын
The Upside Down Man even stripped him of his Demons blood yet He was still able to do some Insane OP stuff. I could go on
@mahstermyne
@mahstermyne 4 жыл бұрын
Your first vs video has my two top character going head to head.....maannnn. Lol
@eddieandrews2922
@eddieandrews2922 4 жыл бұрын
Camera parrot dude IAM new to this channel and I straight up will rock with you on that beat.
@alexjones3957
@alexjones3957 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for finally uploading! 😂 but fr good video.
@italiangamer5970
@italiangamer5970 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man great videos! Uour explanations and thoroughness are better than any other on the internet! Ive only recently found your channel great work keep it up!
@blueeyeswhitedragon9569
@blueeyeswhitedragon9569 4 жыл бұрын
I'm slowly growing to love your channel I just wish you would do trigon and raven
@sedaotieno
@sedaotieno 4 жыл бұрын
Lol that synchronicity wave is simultaneously one of the most brilliant and laziest things I've ever heard of 😂😂 would it stay with John through an ovoid mind transfer?
@WebCamParrot
@WebCamParrot 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think the ovoid mind transfer would work on Constantine at all but even if it did he should still have the Synchronicity wave. It's more like a way of living than something do with his body or anything. And lazy in what way?
@sedaotieno
@sedaotieno 4 жыл бұрын
@@WebCamParrot lazy in that it wipes damn near every attack off the table off rip!! & John doesn't even have to think about using it 😂😂 Imagine that ability in a game like Injustice... you could drive people completely insane 😂😂 somebody tell NetherRealm, Constantine needs to be in IJ3 (and yeah, I know the characters aren't at their full power in the games, but it could still be awesome to watch him casually stomp a beast like Doomsday 😂)
@Thunderbird616
@Thunderbird616 4 жыл бұрын
Good video no Sprite battle but I enjoy your research keep it up!
@DrewAndrews
@DrewAndrews 4 жыл бұрын
Good analysis but don’t forget Dooms Intelligence. This is a guy who stole powers from the Beyonder. I think Doom can take some of these matchups with him. This fight could go either way
@MultiMario2306
@MultiMario2306 2 жыл бұрын
Intelligence isn’t too much of a factor in this case if both fate bends to Constantine constantly
@scerkann3966
@scerkann3966 Жыл бұрын
​@@MultiMario2306 pre retcon beyonder could remove the concept of fate so doesn't matter
@MultiMario2306
@MultiMario2306 Жыл бұрын
@@scerkann3966 Yes, but Doom can’t do that himself
@propagandalf9511
@propagandalf9511 4 жыл бұрын
If it's a random encounter Doom stomps. With prep time it's 50/50
@ryanbrown9833
@ryanbrown9833 4 жыл бұрын
Constatine slaps tbh
@punkrider8758
@punkrider8758 4 жыл бұрын
From this video: Doom: Immeasurable speed Constantine: Irrelevant speed Pretty obvious who wins
@ryanbrown9833
@ryanbrown9833 4 жыл бұрын
Punk Raydej tbh constatine stomps it’s not even funny lol. He’s extremely high into outerversal as well lol
@punkrider8758
@punkrider8758 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanbrown9833 Yeah against DC, Marvel is simply out of the competition
@ryanbrown9833
@ryanbrown9833 4 жыл бұрын
Punk Raydej it is tbh there are so many beings in dc who can like no diff all of marvel lmao.
@Cieges
@Cieges 4 жыл бұрын
Lmaoooo that synchronicity wave is simply tooo OP
@akieemroberts5
@akieemroberts5 4 жыл бұрын
About time broo
@madmanthunder9461
@madmanthunder9461 4 жыл бұрын
Love it man
@spaceman4313
@spaceman4313 4 жыл бұрын
you wouldn't find this type of battle on any other vs debate channel.
@dr4cula472
@dr4cula472 2 жыл бұрын
You deserve more subscribers
@samibu22
@samibu22 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos! Keep it up and I hope you aren't done with Bleach content:)
@user-pf5uc4ms9g
@user-pf5uc4ms9g Ай бұрын
A king god vs a homless person
@evanb1470
@evanb1470 3 жыл бұрын
Both of them are preppers too. Gotta be ready for anything.
@fundamentalconvolution1749
@fundamentalconvolution1749 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious... How did Constantine get the Synchronicity Wave? Also considering how good Doctor Doom has proven in changing things (separating the Hulk from Banner, curing the Thing, etc)... If he found out how Constantine came across the Wave, could he find a way to counter and/or block it? I admit that I don't know enough about it to say anything for sure, but am just curious.
@Yeethiggsboson
@Yeethiggsboson Жыл бұрын
I believe it’s because of he’s a laughing magician and I seriously doubt there is a way that anyone who isn’t the endless to change this
@scerkann3966
@scerkann3966 Жыл бұрын
Beyonders power could easily erase the synchronocity wave from existence like he could erase the concept of death. webcamparrot is a bit drunk if he thinks constantine could beat doom with pre retcon beyonders power
@Dont_know_what_to_name_it
@Dont_know_what_to_name_it 11 ай бұрын
​@@scerkann3966 John beat swap thing whit the power of présence
@paragmurthy5411
@paragmurthy5411 10 ай бұрын
The synchronicity wave was a threat to Lucifer Morningstar who made the death of the endless afraid of him
@UtilemUnus
@UtilemUnus 2 жыл бұрын
I've learned a lot since last I saw this video. Feel like a school boy
@FuZion1988
@FuZion1988 4 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting
@magnaz26
@magnaz26 4 жыл бұрын
How would John's "Synchronicity Wave" fare against Yhwach's "All-Mighty"? In theory, Could the capabilites of the "All-Mighty" successfully undermine John's "Synchronicity Wave"? Just curious of what your opinion is on this question parrot.
@kfork814
@kfork814 Жыл бұрын
Nope synchronicity wave slams as it's hax is on a higher scale although all mighty seems very powerful
@magnaz26
@magnaz26 Жыл бұрын
@@kfork814 Thanks for sharing your opinion.
@imreplyingtothiscomment2378
@imreplyingtothiscomment2378 4 жыл бұрын
More toriko content
@zelhomoukai6144
@zelhomoukai6144 4 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine Doom would experiment with Constantine's Synchro wave. Doom would still lose of course, but still.
@percytheone
@percytheone 4 жыл бұрын
Zelho Moukai And that would literally be apart of the synchro waves “plan”
@zelhomoukai6144
@zelhomoukai6144 4 жыл бұрын
@@percytheone I know Doom can't win. As much as I love Doom and hate to say it. Doom can't win. But with Doom studying the synchro waves. It'll just add to Dooms knowledge. Doom might find a way to mimic it's effects. Although again he still loses to the real thing.
@mvp746
@mvp746 4 жыл бұрын
Please get into Anime vs DC/Marvel vs battles,Love your Channel.
@iforgottbh4488
@iforgottbh4488 3 жыл бұрын
As a smoker named John be warned. Once that cig is lit we can’t be stopped🤷🏿‍♂️
@levaithan325
@levaithan325 4 жыл бұрын
Trigon snapped his neck like someone paid him to do it
@markozerdin9784
@markozerdin9784 4 жыл бұрын
Doom got this. He beated GODS, stronger than Constantine. Also, magic wont afect him because of his armor.
@edvz8896
@edvz8896 4 жыл бұрын
One word for why even base Constantine slaps God Emperor Doom : Synchronicity wave
@markozerdin9784
@markozerdin9784 4 жыл бұрын
Doom have the ability to steal power. + he have energy absorption
@markozerdin9784
@markozerdin9784 4 жыл бұрын
Force fields. Doctor Strange coud not transport Doom into a dimenson and Magneto's magnetisem coud not affect him while he was in his force fields. They survived blasts of Silestials. And Doom coud simply send Constantine to the end of worlds with time transport.
@markozerdin9784
@markozerdin9784 4 жыл бұрын
and yeah, energy absorption is build in Doom's armor, and he has device he invented to steal other powers, if you wach the absurd power of doom you should now that
@markozerdin9784
@markozerdin9784 4 жыл бұрын
Doom's force fields have protected him from magic before. And he can fire while they are on. Doom also have the ability to block other's powers
@HeatForce
@HeatForce 4 жыл бұрын
I'm rooting for John but I think Doom has had infinite power several times already.
@lorekeeper685
@lorekeeper685 4 жыл бұрын
Doom pretty op
@Cipher_Paul
@Cipher_Paul 2 жыл бұрын
Trololololol
@some_shitposting_idiot3023
@some_shitposting_idiot3023 Жыл бұрын
Infinite power doesn't mean infinite power It goes by dimensions and levels of infinity Infinite 1d power is less than infinite 2d which is less than infinite 3d etc etc etc
@lordvader619
@lordvader619 4 жыл бұрын
I think you're underselling Pre-retcon Beyonder's powers a lot. He has arguably more feats than Michael and Lucifer combined, and his power level seems to be on par with TOAA or The Presence, only difference being that Beyonder has actual feats to back up that power. Additionally, Constantine's luck doesn't always save him. Look at Doomsday Clock, where Manhattan (basically a nerfed Beyonder) made quick work of everyone, including Constatine himself. John also seems to struggle against non magical/celestial beings. Moreover, you're also giving Dr Doom some prep time! The guy has done the impossible, and I'm sure he can come up with a few ways of countering Constantine's arsenal in one way or the other. No that he really needs to, as John's actual power level doesn't even come close to some of the beings Doom has fought before. Most of his feats really come down to trickery, outsmarting or manipulating gods (and other similar beings), something that Doom can easily see through. Plus, Doom has done similar things before using only his intelect. Doom with prep time could potentially upgrade his Hex Nullifier to counter the synchronicity wave (I just realized I sounded like those prep-time Batman fanboys, I'm sorry). While I agree the synchronicity wave would give Constantine the edge against a base Doom, he cannot dream in outsmarting someone like Victor with prep. Anyway, these are my thoughts. Great video anyway. Would be cool if you could make "The Absurd Powers of Green Lantern Hal Jordan". He does have some of the most impressive feats out there.
@WebCamParrot
@WebCamParrot 4 жыл бұрын
Pre ret Beyonder is most definitely not on the level of Lucifer or Michael at all. Something you have to realise is that anything beyond the Monitor Sphere in DC essentially just claps all of Marvel because of the huge differences in each of their cosmologies. But lets say I granted you that Beyonder = The Presence that still wouldn't help him. Did you miss the part where Constantine depowered a presence level being using a match? Constantine takes on presence level opponents all the time. Even without his gear he still stomps and I'll elaborate on why. As for Dr Manhattan he would beat this Doom too but that's not how the synchronicity wave works. Constantine only rides the wave of fate, that doesn't mean bad things can't happen to him, they absolutely can. He wont die or suffer any kind of catastrophic loss ever though unless something actually overpowers the synchronicity wave. That's how batman can punch him but not the Spectre because Batmans punch wasn't going to be a negative for Constantine and the Spectre would have killed him. Doom has never been able to do anything on the level you are implying and not with this particular kind of hax either. The powers of the laughing magician (the synchronicity wave) literally exist as the ultimate fuck you to rules all the way up to The Presence. Doom can't just whip up something in his lab to disable that, never-mind that he would be fated not to do this as a result of the ability itself. Plus Constantine has way better prep feats than Doom already, so whatever random headcanon prep you are going to grant Doom would just be worse than whatever Constantine brings anyway. Like I said in the video the Primer Mover is one of Dooms best accomplishments something he was only barely able to achieve and for Constantine fate hax on that level would be a disappointing Tuesday.
@godking1257
@godking1257 3 жыл бұрын
@@WebCamParrot do you like lucifer morningstar? Pls Don't downplay him, pls.
@lolxd3337
@lolxd3337 Жыл бұрын
@@godking1257 I have read vergito Lucifer many times he is not downplaying it
@user-lp8im7ow8s
@user-lp8im7ow8s 3 ай бұрын
Beyonder nearly got killed by the Phoenix Force and pre recton Dr Strange . Both of whom Constantine can Scale above thanks to the fact An amped Swamp Thing can't do crap to him and Swamp things powers are superior to the 5th Dimension which is close to the White Hot room in terms of structure.
@NoName-yu1qc
@NoName-yu1qc 2 жыл бұрын
You're telling me Doom can't prep for a single punch on Constantine? Lol
@WebCamParrot
@WebCamParrot 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, it would just be fated to never happen at all.
@uwotm8634
@uwotm8634 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know any good respect threads for Constantine? I can't find a lot of the feats you presented in most respect threads
@anirudhghatani3835
@anirudhghatani3835 3 жыл бұрын
Watch justice league dark apocalypse
@karlcollins2106
@karlcollins2106 4 жыл бұрын
I love all the DC/Marvel stuff but would appreciate some manga/anime powerscale vids
@MrMannie1524
@MrMannie1524 4 жыл бұрын
Power scales are sooo dumb though
@karlcollins2106
@karlcollins2106 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrMannie1524 I enjoy watching them
@MrMannie1524
@MrMannie1524 4 жыл бұрын
@@karlcollins2106 fair enough.
@karlcollins2106
@karlcollins2106 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrMannie1524 cool. I accept your concession
@HeatForce
@HeatForce 4 жыл бұрын
I liked this. Maybe make this a monthly or something.
@quasarspirit574
@quasarspirit574 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent Analysis! I am eagerly awaiting more DC analysis from you! :) Do you think Constantine's Blackmare form could match Dr Doom's raw power if for some reason he had to match his raw power? He was able to fight Blight with it.
@CerealExperimentsMizuki
@CerealExperimentsMizuki Жыл бұрын
If he could go toe to toe with BLIGHT in terms of physical power then he'd accidentally kill Doom just by existing.
@kfork814
@kfork814 Жыл бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki W
@kfork814
@kfork814 Жыл бұрын
W
@GKRcnnct
@GKRcnnct 4 жыл бұрын
Another influx of people to the discord hope you guys are ready
@JayLeePoe
@JayLeePoe 4 жыл бұрын
*Laughs in Council of Reeds* edit: "unlock the basement, Reed 432"
@KravenTime
@KravenTime 2 жыл бұрын
I think Doom has this...Reasons 1. Doom Always has his Bots who are exactly like him in every way do his work, meaning if One of these Bots would come into Contact and lose to Constantine, he'd see how he works and maneuver around him. 2. Doom has been on God Tier level a few Times and said that it was Beneath Him. (Probably because it was to Easy for him.) 3. His Magic side is as Good as His Techy science side, he was even considered in line as Sorcerer Supreme if something ever happened to Strange. Doom is Just on a Whole Different Level. But that's just my thoughts
@tkthebeyonder6714
@tkthebeyonder6714 Жыл бұрын
This is clearly biased, the fight between base Constantine and base Dr Doom is much closer than what he made it seem. Then when we give Doom the Beyonder's power this becomes an overkill. Constantine has no chance againt power on the level of infinite dimensionality where reality becomes the very whims of Doom.
@KravenTime
@KravenTime Жыл бұрын
@@tkthebeyonder6714 like I said it's my thought = Opinion, it's not Biased, if I was Being Biased i would've said "he wins without a Doubt and no one can tell me Differently" you have your opinion I have mine, no need for a debate that was never Started
@tkthebeyonder6714
@tkthebeyonder6714 Жыл бұрын
@@KravenTime No i meant webCamParrot is biased
@Dont_know_what_to_name_it
@Dont_know_what_to_name_it 11 ай бұрын
1 yes but John can beat him if they go into housse of mystary 2 not realy good cince John have feats of that to like most of the Time 3 John can matche dr fate who IS better than both
@derrickchavis
@derrickchavis 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to see you do videos like this on Toriko characters. They have crazy hax abilities that would be good for discussion. One of them is gourmet luck.
@Cipher_Paul
@Cipher_Paul 2 жыл бұрын
His first video is a Toriko video
@allright6743
@allright6743 4 жыл бұрын
idk why people down play the pre retcon beyonder... even though he was shown to be outerversal him self. static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125547/3253262-05.jpg
@punkrider8758
@punkrider8758 4 жыл бұрын
Constantine is High Outerversal tho
@Dr.Osterman
@Dr.Osterman 4 жыл бұрын
nobody is downplaying beyonder lol.
@punkrider8758
@punkrider8758 4 жыл бұрын
@Dami How?
@punkrider8758
@punkrider8758 3 жыл бұрын
@Dami It is quite ironic when you say that I am the one who ruins comic fandoms but at the same time you're the one being extremely toxic
@punkrider8758
@punkrider8758 3 жыл бұрын
@Dami So is that your excuse for being toxic?
@elizabethbastian9466
@elizabethbastian9466 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful.
@isiahalcindor6278
@isiahalcindor6278 4 жыл бұрын
Good one how bout Constantine vs CA superman or mandrak or classic doctor strange
@goofybutserious4807
@goofybutserious4807 4 жыл бұрын
Do a top 10 most powerful characters in fiction that you know of? Please?
@jalontf2
@jalontf2 Жыл бұрын
Constantine is the magical version Batman in terms of prep and plot armor. There's no contest.
@dfailsthemost
@dfailsthemost 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, I was hoping you'd address the time manipulation factor.
@MrMannie1524
@MrMannie1524 4 жыл бұрын
You're crazy to think Doom would lose a fight to Constantine. You get a draw or no contest before Doom takes an L to someone batman knocked smooth the fuck out. Discounting Dooms character to analyze and not just go for hacks. He would definitely see the magical prowess and cunning and simply punch the shit outta John. But these are all our opinions at the end of the day.
@samuraiblack8840
@samuraiblack8840 2 жыл бұрын
Lol salty
@CerealExperimentsMizuki
@CerealExperimentsMizuki Жыл бұрын
No he won't loose a fight against Constantine but he will definitely be unable to get any victory against John.
@scerkann3966
@scerkann3966 Жыл бұрын
nah batman is more powerful than pre retcon beyonder who is far more powerful than perpetua, the presence etc
@alphacenturion1812
@alphacenturion1812 4 жыл бұрын
Constantine is one of my characters but even I have to say it's weaponized plot armour
@dfailsthemost
@dfailsthemost 4 жыл бұрын
So, who beats Constantine? Aside from God Sphere characters or pre Secret Wars (modern) Beyonders. Maybe Superman?
@CaptainAmerica930
@CaptainAmerica930 4 жыл бұрын
It seems to me The Prime Mover & The Synchonicty Wave would cancel eathother out. I have disagree with this outcome.
@WebCamParrot
@WebCamParrot 4 жыл бұрын
They wouldn't cancel eachother out for several reasons, for one The Prime Mover creates a future for you based on Dooms Will where as the Synchronicity Wave directly takes your already preordained fate and completely ignores it giving you exactly what you most need instead. More importantly though the Synchronicity Wave just works on a way higher level, the Primer Mover only affected one universe but the Synchronicity Wave subverts The Presences plan and works throughout all creation in general. It also works on beings like Lucifer Morningstar and The Spectre who can effect all of creation in DC which contains many infinities of universes as well as numerous transcendent realms beyond the multiverse entirely.
@ugandanknuckles3981
@ugandanknuckles3981 3 жыл бұрын
WebCamParrot but what if doom had the full power for the pre retcon beyonder. How would the fight differ
@ThelastShepherd.
@ThelastShepherd. 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Doom has immense magical powers on par with a sorcerer supreme(if not more), so to say Doom can not affect Constantine because of "magic" is ignorant. Higher power means your magic is more likely to take affect.
@RyuukishinoKain
@RyuukishinoKain 4 жыл бұрын
That is the point. Constantine himself doesn't really have great magical power in the begin with. Constantine literally scorn people that use magic to do flashy things because he knows there is nothing in the world is free, and every magic has it cost. But despite all of that, all magical (and smart non magical) beings in the whole DC universe rather have no business with Constantine if possible. There is scene in Books of Magic comic book when the entire room full of world most dangerous mages attempting to harm Zatanna and Tim Hunter, 2 of DC's strongest mages, with no fear, but they ended up ran away asap when Constantine showing up at the door. This is not about who had the biggest firepower, but that simply about how dangerous Constantine really is when it counts. Most of the fight he won are by outsmarting the enemy, rendering the enemies abilities useless or even using their power against themselves. Also Constantine have curse that make everyone that have business with him, are fated to die. The records are quite impressive, since one of that victim, apparently, is the god/presence himself.
@ThelastShepherd.
@ThelastShepherd. 4 жыл бұрын
@@RyuukishinoKain In a death battle Doom would win 9/10. The 1 time he would lose is because of "hacks". The video is not a death battle just a 1 to 1 of what powers they have and how Constantine could run away from Doom.
@RyuukishinoKain
@RyuukishinoKain 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThelastShepherd. if anything, death battle is actually the thing that Constantine do best and worst case scenario for Doom. He is a "Laughing Magician", which people with bloodline that destined to smack gods and magical beings in the face and spits on them as they fall. All people that carrying the name Constantine in DC universe destroyed gods and enslaving them for the lulz. It is like asking Buffy the Vampire Slayer to do the death battle with vampires, that is what she literally do best. Constantine will cheat, lie and manipulate everything to escape death. The best chance for Doom is actually non life threatening game, like poker or bar brawl, which something that not really matter.
@ThelastShepherd.
@ThelastShepherd. 4 жыл бұрын
@@RyuukishinoKain In a realistic death battle you can't cheat death mate. He would get 1 shot. Relying on cunning and intellect means nothing to Doom. GG
@RyuukishinoKain
@RyuukishinoKain 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThelastShepherd. what is realistic death battle? By what rule? And that is not even true, because in that case the death battle would remove healing factor, teleportation, immortality, unremovable existence, omni presence, etc because that is some form of cheating death. Also Doom got outwitted by Reed Richard most of the time, so that is also not true either. Constantine literally outsmarted gods, demon and even person with omni-presence. I guess that alone put him out of Doom's paycheck range.
@caveman3744
@caveman3744 4 жыл бұрын
Can the Project Superpowers Green Lama and the Swamp Thing do a combo?
@darthbrutalicious6066
@darthbrutalicious6066 4 жыл бұрын
Please do The Mandarin VS Captain Planet!
@MUISHAGGY572
@MUISHAGGY572 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make Chaos King vs Mr. Mxyzptlk
@DarkChillMisko99
@DarkChillMisko99 4 жыл бұрын
Great video could u do Constantine vs Rick Sanchez
@l.raphaelnery7299
@l.raphaelnery7299 2 жыл бұрын
John Constantine doesn't fight to win he fights so his enemies lose...even if he has to screw over everything and everyone else... sometimes himself included no matter how hard the enemy is with that willingness to do just about anything to win along with his ruthless cunning all his enemies die because they won't do the one thing he can do screw themselves and for go their own ambitions to beat him And let's not forget with the number of beings who want John dead makes him paranoid and want to be prepared for anything at all times
@br41nb0x7
@br41nb0x7 3 жыл бұрын
Constantine's Synchronicity power sounds like Bink's power from the Xanth series.
@Gamerfreak1313
@Gamerfreak1313 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe I’m misunderstanding would any of dooms stuff even be relevant if he is using Pre-Retcon Beyonder power? Even with synchronicity wave idk if that would survive a blast from pre ret Beyonder which destroys multiple dimensions but maybe I don’t get it but it seems Beyonder stands above fate manipulation given in his original story he was basically his own TOAA kind of
@punkrider8758
@punkrider8758 4 жыл бұрын
Constantine is extremely high in DC, Doom is extremely high into Marvel, and from what I've heard the most powerful characters in Marvel wouldn't even scratch characters weaker than Constantine
@Gamerfreak1313
@Gamerfreak1313 4 жыл бұрын
Punk Raydej we could have a debate on that but ultimately that’s not the point Pre-Retcon Beyonder is a beast in terms of power and is stronger than many beings but I’m not even saying I can’t be swayed that Constantine can beat Beyonder Doom but I doh think synchronicity thing Beyonder stands above
@drago939393
@drago939393 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious how Pre-Retcon Beyonder powers still aren't enough, wtf. Does that mean that IG or HotU Thanos also can't defeat him?
@lassehoffmann625
@lassehoffmann625 2 жыл бұрын
well if you have the power to manipulate reality you can maybe beat it, so scarlet witch might be able to do that but that is completly speculatively
@user-xn3nz4dd5p
@user-xn3nz4dd5p 2 жыл бұрын
finally a worthy opponent
@benparrish672
@benparrish672 3 жыл бұрын
We need a Live Action Rated R John Constantine movie that is similar to the comics
@levaithan325
@levaithan325 4 жыл бұрын
All I heard was, “ he wins because the story wants him to.”
@calebchampion7781
@calebchampion7781 3 жыл бұрын
And if Pandora's box has no effect on him I doubt that anything else would.
@magvs_maestro216
@magvs_maestro216 6 күн бұрын
What about Forge v Doc Doom? Who you got?
@397llederson6
@397llederson6 4 жыл бұрын
So basically plot armor with that logic then every hero should win
@Cieges
@Cieges 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not the same tho.
@maxmustermann9058
@maxmustermann9058 4 жыл бұрын
VS are set outside any particular story or arc so plot armor in the form of plot contrivances do not apply, powers that merely facilitate similar results do however, it is also unfair to say all heroes have plot armor, half the time they fight each other anyway, at other times the plot weakens them, like Superman not catching up to bullets in time to create a tragic moment in For Tomorrow, villains also get thick plot armor so that they can continue to stick around, plot-armor is a meaningless argument on several levels
@397llederson6
@397llederson6 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cieges How is it not?
@397llederson6
@397llederson6 4 жыл бұрын
@@maxmustermann9058 Here is thing you happen to be in the right place at the right time in stories happens a lot,plot armor makes heroes a lot of the time especially silver age superman seem stupidly broken and yes villains have plot armor but who usually wins? Who finds some way to do an asspull? Who usually happens to survive the unsurvival like Batman with the Omega beams for example?
@maxmustermann9058
@maxmustermann9058 4 жыл бұрын
@@397llederson6 None of that is relevant to the VS context and as I said different from Constantines power, again villains also come back from Impossible circumstances and amass massive power again, neither side wins conclusively, it is a constantly shifting tug of war, the Omega Beam also was not meant to kill Batman but sent him back intime as a bomb, they are also just one of many powers and there are plenty of entities above Darkseid
@romanmay2867
@romanmay2867 2 жыл бұрын
it’s close but i would say doom, there is just so so so so much he could do and send to constantine, magick and science. he’s basically invincible to magick with the suit of armor
@user-lp8im7ow8s
@user-lp8im7ow8s 3 ай бұрын
Moon blade would still work .
@romanmay2867
@romanmay2867 3 ай бұрын
@@user-lp8im7ow8s there is probably a counter
@socretesturtelli4577
@socretesturtelli4577 3 жыл бұрын
Do more vs battle
@godskey8170
@godskey8170 4 жыл бұрын
Can we get Composite Hulk Vs Composite Doomsday👀
@hazyshade9648
@hazyshade9648 4 жыл бұрын
Finally.. Constantine gets his due
@brandonandrews2186
@brandonandrews2186 2 жыл бұрын
The hax Constantine has is insane lol
@punkrider8758
@punkrider8758 4 жыл бұрын
Your view to like ratio is crazy so far
@Mokey_MokeyLordofPuns
@Mokey_MokeyLordofPuns 9 ай бұрын
Doom: FAILURE IS BENEATH DOOM Constantine: Shame aint it
@marcosmartinez3158
@marcosmartinez3158 4 жыл бұрын
I made a comment on another channel, it was Thanos vs Superman and everybody was saying Thanos would slap Superman. And i said in a straight strength battle Superman would win. What are your thoughts on that?
@lukaskrivda9374
@lukaskrivda9374 4 жыл бұрын
version of thanos and superman?
@shady8045
@shady8045 3 жыл бұрын
lol everyone in the comments hates the synchronicity wave also what about emporer god doom? saying that constantine can beat that is implying he could solo most of the marvel universe, as it scales about the living tribunal and the infinity gauntlet.
@achimpanzee9210
@achimpanzee9210 3 жыл бұрын
Well Constantine threatened the presence who is dc’s one above all
@DanielSmith-mp4le
@DanielSmith-mp4le 4 жыл бұрын
I actually have a question: if Constantine literally can't lose why does anybody even read his comics? I'm not trying to insult anyone's taste I genuinely don't understand.
@enochmenor5671
@enochmenor5671 4 жыл бұрын
If one punch man can't lose, then why does anyone watch the anime?
@wadegreenjr.2014
@wadegreenjr.2014 4 жыл бұрын
It's not as simple as the video makes it out to be. In the Constantine comics, he often has some special knowledge, an item, or something that his antagonist wants from him. His stories often play out like whodunits, mysteries, which give him time to manipulate, trick, and pull off the long con.
@DanielSmith-mp4le
@DanielSmith-mp4le 4 жыл бұрын
@@enochmenor5671 for the comedic subversion of expectations and the world itself is kind of interesting
@DanielSmith-mp4le
@DanielSmith-mp4le 4 жыл бұрын
@@wadegreenjr.2014 I'm not quite sure I understand but to me it kind of sounds like he's definitely in the Mary Sue territory...
@wadegreenjr.2014
@wadegreenjr.2014 4 жыл бұрын
@@DanielSmith-mp4le You are correct. He is in the Mary Sue category. His books are usually good because we get to see , "how does he get out of this mess".
@Band_Of_The_Falcon
@Band_Of_The_Falcon 4 жыл бұрын
Wow and i thought batman had plot armor
@RyuukishinoKain
@RyuukishinoKain 4 жыл бұрын
Even Batman knows to not playing around with Constantine.
@dfailsthemost
@dfailsthemost 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, pre retcon beyonder is intense.
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