Contemporary Dancer Analyses Ten & WinWin - Lovely! (RE-DO)

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2 жыл бұрын

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@Koko3op
@Koko3op 2 жыл бұрын
*NEW Channel intro! What do we think? Do we likeeee??!! * One thing about me ... I always try to improve wherever I can and though some people can be disrespectful, for the ones who expressed disappointment about the previous reaction whilst being respectful made me realise our error in the previous reaction and thankfully Ceecee felt the same and for the first time EVER I was more than happy to give it a try again even though she had to read some horrible comments, she was a great sport and I love her more for it! Hope you guys enjoy this take #2 lol, we had a lot of fun shooting it. Join my Patreon here for more exclusive content: patreon.com/koko3op
@MilkshakeCowboy
@MilkshakeCowboy 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually really big of you both to take the real criticisms and respond. That just shows you really respect what you're doing. I really enjoy her reactions so I appreciate we get to see her give balanced feedback on the performance. Also, never mind the ignorant comments about her facial expressions etc. personally I like that she is keeping it neutral and not afraid to ruffle some feathers by giving her honest opinion.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op 2 жыл бұрын
@@MilkshakeCowboy Thank you! Yeah those irrational criticisms go straight over my head tbh cos people want fake OTT animation from people and I personally find it jarring lol
@shryseaauthornim454
@shryseaauthornim454 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't watch her first reaction on purpose to stay focus on her dance analysis. Considering she doesn't know completely Ten's background training ( basket ball and gymnastics actually, that's how he has such impressive leg muscles I assume in comparison to all other SM dancers lol) and not so much about traditional Chinese dance she analyzed it quite well. She is so right about their gravity center and their shapes (the lines) and once again about their clothes. This choreo only lacks an analysis from an actual choreographer to truly give an interpretation of the whole performance. I have always felt that Ten should have been the darkness instead of the light if we take in consideration their specific of dancing. Ten can display strength, sharpness, fluidity, use the space, and have a lower center of gravity ( maybe thanks to basketball), he is used to hip hop, urban dance in general and contemporary which are dances where dancers work a lot near or even on the ground itself. While win-win have that airy way of moving, delicate, light, polish, clean with a tendency to extend his limbs higher, he is thinner too so it match the lightness as well. But maybe they wanted to break prejugees about light and darkness... art is always subjective after all ;)
@shryseaauthornim454
@shryseaauthornim454 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it will be welcomed considering it is another channel, you can scratch it if you want^^ but I would like to recommand this video analysis about win-win way of dancing which seconds mainly what CeeCee pointed out but with more technical analysis and visual comparison of dancers and dances : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fJ6bqphzr6jJk2Q.html It ismade by a nctizen ballet dancer ( I'm sad because she won't analyze other sm members apart from nct's, herkai analysis could have been great with her knowledge)
@taviss6871
@taviss6871 2 жыл бұрын
I love this reaction. I think is good to have diversity and to acept other people point of view. Plus I love when people are honest in ther reactions. Yes, we all want to just hear quick and nice coments of the things we love but sometimes we forget we are all diferent, and that is beautiful and valid, that is what make us all special, our own label. I really enjoy this video and her view of this coreography. I'm hoping to see more of her reactions ❤ (Greatings from Chile✌)
@luizamodestosilva
@luizamodestosilva 2 жыл бұрын
i watched the first one and i personally didnt think you "owe" us a re-do but i appreciate it nonetheless! loved her comments even tho i dont 100% agree 😊 she definitely fits "analyses" better than "reacts" i think that's what put people off in the first video bc when they click to see a reaction they expect a more expressive demeanor but anyways like i said this format works better for her i'd love to watch more
@Koko3op
@Koko3op 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree! Sometimes I forget the importance of the right wording lol. Re-do's will definitely be a rarity lol but it felt important for this one because it's such a beautiful choreo and so many were looking forward to it initially this felt right.
@artistblue18
@artistblue18 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed her insights in this Re-Do. While I love Ten, Im happy to see WinWin get the recognition he deserves but rarely gets
@shanekasydial
@shanekasydial 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say now that I have finished watching this vid I like that fact that you spoke more expressed yourself a bit more and didn't backtrack on anything you said in the prev video. Yaasss for the energy this vid.... I find it cool or interesting how the prev vid I think you mentioned Ten catching your attention more but this time it was Winwin.... but its only natural
@spiderlile
@spiderlile 2 жыл бұрын
ten is my favourite dancer, so i know quite a lot about him. for anyone watching this dance analysis who might be unaware of ten's background, he has quite a lot of dance training and experience under his belt, and he's extremely athletic. - in his pre-teens he was in a dance group called "we zaa cool" in thailand with his friends, bambam (got7) and lisa (blackpink). - in his mid-teens he was enrolled into a dance school and had private lessons. (alongside his academic studies at "shrewsbury international school" in bangkok). - he passed an audition with "yg entertainment", but because of his young age, he declined the offer to move to south korea and join the company. - in 2011, he participated in the thai performance based variety show "teen superstar" and won the opportunity to sign a contract with the k-pop company "starship entertainment" in south korea. this offer he also declined. - in 2013, he passed a global audition for "sm entertainment", moved to seoul, and joined the company 5 months later. - from 2013 to 2014, he was part of sm's pre-debut training program "sm rookies". - in 2014 he participated in the mnet produced variety show "exo 90:2014". the show starred his lablemates exo, where they danced to k-pop songs from the '90s. - in 2016 he debuted as a main dancer with nct/nct u. - 3 months after debut, he participated in the mnet produced dance competition show "hit the stage" with senior lablemates hyoyeon (girl's generation) and taemin (shinee), along with other industry idols. teaming up with the dance crew "prepix", he won the uniform challenge in the 6th episode. - in january 2019 he debuted as the main dancer of nct's china based sub-unit, wayv. - in october 2019 he debuted as one of the 3 main dancers of the capitol records and sm entertainment collaborative k-pop supergroup, superm. - in october 2021 he was a guest judge on the dance competition show "street dance of china". - he is rumored to be a dance mentor in the upcoming youku and canxing media dance competition show "great dance crew". - he has training and experience in the genres: ballet (fendamental), b-boying, hip-hop, tap, popping, locking, modern, lyrical, waacking, jazz, urban, theatrical, and contemporary-as you see in his "lovely" collaboration with winwin. - besides dance, ten also sings, raps, plays piano and guitar. - he speaks thai, english, korean, mandarin, and japanese. - he is a champion gymnast, he has taken taekwondo, plays basketball, badminton, swims and dives, skateboards, skis and snowboards, bowls, and has recently taken up rock-climbing. - he is an artist, graphic designer, and avid photographer.
@bibibabibo697
@bibibabibo697 2 жыл бұрын
Ten is not in the we zaa cool group, only lisa and bambam. He from the TNT show.
@spiderlile
@spiderlile 2 жыл бұрын
@@bibibabibo697 there are sources that say he was in "we zaa cool". an article about lisa on "thekoreabuzz", and one on "koreaboo: these are the 6 thai wonders of k-pop". of course, i suppose it could be misinformation, but i would hope these sites fact-check before they publish. and tnt was ten's stage-name on the competition show "teen superstar"-the show wasn't called tnt.
@10velywayv
@10velywayv 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for the RE-DO appreciate it a lot. love your chanel love your reaction. thank you for showing love and support to ten and winwin their just both amazing and talented dancers. they really did their best to show their fans this amazing masterpiece. im not tired of watching this dance cover performance. ❤
@valoriec
@valoriec 2 жыл бұрын
Despite my disagreement with the first reaction video, the opinions expressed were your own, and you're entitled to your feelings and interpretations. That said, I really enjoyed this redo (though you didn't owe us one). It's so nice seeing WinWin getting the recognition he deserves. He's often left to the wayside and less recognized for his talents, though he is very talented. Thank you for this. Your analysis was very good, and I didn't notice some of the things in the video until you pointed them out, for example, the loose clothes on Ten and the tighter ones on WinWin. It was a nice observation!
@londynjoleigh
@londynjoleigh 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry you guys felt the need to do a re-do! On the first video (while I didn’t get to far into the comments) I agreed with the fact that there was some context missing for her when it came to the dances theme. But other than that, I really liked and respected what she said even if I didn’t agree 100%! I can’t wait to watch this again!! 💖 Edit: I think you guys addressed the situation professionally in the beginning without making it feel preachy or overdone! Ireally appreciated the more in-depth commentary and how CeeCee took the time to learn even just a little bit about traditional Chinese dance. Having a bit of context can open someone’s eyes and mind up to a lot of things and this video is a testament to that!! Overall I really enjoyed this take two!! I hope you guys can avoid hiccups like this in the future, and that people can respectfully share their differing opinion and/or educate the reactors on this channel!
@Koko3op
@Koko3op 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! lol thank you!
@londynjoleigh
@londynjoleigh 2 жыл бұрын
@@Koko3op omg 😱 no problem! I literally binge watch this channel while doing school work, so it was a little disheartening to hear that you got such bad feedback!
@Teodora4537x
@Teodora4537x 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t get a chance to see the first one, but what I can say is that I think this was informative on both positives and negatives, which is what I enjoy, especially coming from a professional. Thanks for the review!
@simplyk.y4598
@simplyk.y4598 2 жыл бұрын
Love the reaction! I didn’t see the first one but really great commentary and Ceecee is my favorite!!!
@Koko3op_CeeCee
@Koko3op_CeeCee 2 жыл бұрын
Well aren’t you sweet 😊
@lovemochi86
@lovemochi86 2 жыл бұрын
Jeez sometimes fans can be so toxic. dance is art- it is open to interpretation. Sometimes you watch a performance without having a background and you interpret and feel things based on what you've seen. sometimes you like a performance and sometimes you don't. i may not agree with her first reactions but i respect her opinions.
@yaelfica
@yaelfica 2 жыл бұрын
Is totally fine to say you don't like it. She didn't say that. She said it was made for skinship based on what the company told them for sure. I don't see how that is a dance reaction..? If you haven't seen Rainbow V i invite you both to see it to be able to truly say why you don't like it. Skinship had nothing to do with what they thought while doing the choreo.
@Koko3op_CeeCee
@Koko3op_CeeCee 2 жыл бұрын
@@yaelfica that’s not what I said at all.
@yaelfica
@yaelfica 2 жыл бұрын
@@Koko3op_CeeCee if someone said...don't mind them girl...the Kpop girlies are mad blah blah bc giving fan service is their JOB....and you said "such a level headed response" 👀 that's agreeing or i don't understand English? How that related to their dancing and the way they created the choreo? If you had said a lot of negative things about their dancing i wouldn't even cared and moved on. These are two very hardworking artists who are not well known yet but they deserve respect for their talents even if you don't like them which is FINE. Talking about skinship how is that valid here? If you haven't seen the whole creation and ideas behind it how do you know. That's my only problem with it.
@nyasha7721
@nyasha7721 2 жыл бұрын
@@yaelfica sweetie? I never said fan service is their job. We got a PATHOLOGICAL HABITUAL LIAR in the building who needs to go back to school and pay attention in comprehension classes 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you're delusional sweetie and love to twist things to suit your narrative get your head out your ass and maybe just maybe you wont be on the internet typing the shit you're obviously full of and backed up with😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@jdca6891
@jdca6891 2 жыл бұрын
I viewed both... she was more intimate with the viewer in her approach this time. I wanted to learn from her as I do with all of your guests and she delivered this time.
@treeflamingo
@treeflamingo 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t find anything offensive about Ceecee’s original reaction to this dance, but I reallllllly enjoy all the extra info she gives in this analysis! I’m also super pleased that this time she was drawn to Winwin cuz he’s my fave 😊
@1985Sefi
@1985Sefi 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the other video, what a crime 😉, so I will share my perspective on this one. I loved this one 🥰 I thouroughly appreciated the deep dive in the technical terms and true appreciation of the piece eventhough it was not a personal fave for you. I loved how respectfull you were while pointing out differences and things to improve for these dancers. And I completely agree that art is up to interpretation both on a general spectrum and a personal one. I loved the pauses and playbacks to highlight your points as well. So I thank you for taking the time to make this video for us and keep them coming ❣
@charityewilson276
@charityewilson276 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, CeeCee! Thank you so much for the 2nd reaction. In addition to your technical critique, and personal opinion you also highlighted aspects of the dance you really enjoyed and it was fun to watch. Also, really like the new opening😁
@olivial5558
@olivial5558 2 жыл бұрын
This was such an insightful reaction! I loved every minute of it despite the fact that it was brought on by people being disrespectful. It was wonderful to hear all of your thoughts on the meaning of the routine and your appreciation of Winwin's technique. I think he gets looked over as a dancer a lot because hiphop (which is primarily used in kpop) is not his forte, but I love that we got to see him flourish in this performance. Ten on the other hand is much more of a hiphop dancer and I think it's awesome that he tried something new here. They were both fabulous in different ways and thank you so, so much for this amazing reaction. Probably my favorite one to this routine. Edit: also, Ten and Winwin said themselves that you can interpret the theme in many different ways, so don't worry about that :)
@marcyburgos9977
@marcyburgos9977 2 жыл бұрын
I love the reaction! I also interpreted this as light and dark, like Yin and yang, but thank you for the great commentary!
@thaigei3538
@thaigei3538 2 жыл бұрын
These are my babies. I love all nct but at the same time I welcome criticism and opinions because everyone’s entitled to their’s and I really like her I feel like she’s honest and true to herself and if you don’t like it she’s not for you and that’s OK.
@a_maze_in_kwangya
@a_maze_in_kwangya 2 жыл бұрын
Winwin ate this routine! I can't stop looking at him whenever I watch this video.
@sunai9381
@sunai9381 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE the way Ceecee interpreted and explained Winwin's pirouette... it opened my eyes to a whole new perspective of the dance...I have watched that dance many times and never noticed that small but so very important part...love this analysis !! 💫
@Koko3op
@Koko3op 2 жыл бұрын
Right? It blew my mind. I never would have ever thought of that myself!
@officially_holywater6345
@officially_holywater6345 2 жыл бұрын
Winwin appreciation!!!😭😭💓
@artistblue18
@artistblue18 2 жыл бұрын
Im sorry that in the last video you guys had to deal with so many disrespectful comments about CeCe’s disposition and the one comment doubting her dancing capabilities. CeCe would not have been asked to react/analyze on this channel if she didn’t have the background/experience/skill to do so properly.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op 2 жыл бұрын
Tell them again!!
@artistblue18
@artistblue18 2 жыл бұрын
@@Koko3op I was disappointed in the people who liked the op’s comment .
@kloudful9822
@kloudful9822 2 жыл бұрын
I watched the first reaction and couldn’t finished it not because you didn’t like the performance but because you let your preconceived notions about kpop idols cloud your judgements. You basically said their whole performance was a fan service made by their company when in fact it was all done by Ten and Winwin from beginning to end: from song choice, clothing’s, choreography, props, everything! How can you as an artist yourself question someone else’s integrities as an artist without knowing anything about their backgrounds? I hope for future reactions, you approach every mvs and videos with respect and an open mind. You don’t have to like anything because they are your opinions and people will respect them but you have to respect the artists you are reacting to too.
@Koko3op_CeeCee
@Koko3op_CeeCee 2 жыл бұрын
No, that’s not what I said. There was no cloud in my interpretation of the dance initially. I could go into depth about how labels work but I’m not into long comments. I stand by everything I said in the initial video, I focused the analysis in the dancing, the reaction still stands.
@schabba1561
@schabba1561 2 жыл бұрын
i love how you two were willing to do this even though you really didn't have to...shows what great character you have and to me shows that you guys' appreciation for the art of dance and music is truly genuine
@lucisventusnoctis
@lucisventusnoctis 2 жыл бұрын
Love the increase in analysis, our boys need strong feedback like this to get better! I love how there's a difference in type of control for ten and win-win. in the first video she liked the control of ten which imo is because first glance the overall vibe is how well you weld with music and ten excels in thatand in the second she focused on the technical control of win-win
@camrosie
@camrosie 2 жыл бұрын
i didn't see the first video, but i really enjoyed this one! i liked how you talked about different moves
@misterapplesyd
@misterapplesyd 2 жыл бұрын
Really love how u mentioned that u can tell the difference between the two and their respective genres through their lines and form bc that's what makes this even more interesting. Like you said, Winwin approaches it from a technical space whereas ten, though not as tech, is embodying the routine w the background has/in his own way. Both hit the mark and both looked so beautiful.
@mamoopink
@mamoopink 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you CeeCee, you are very brave to redo. Personally, I respect your opinion, even though I don't like it because I'm Ten bias.😄 For this video, I like more than the first that you analyze and detail in terms of professional dancers. Makes me get more knowledge. I want a faithful comment Because I want to know that the artist I like has weaknesses. What are the strengths in every field? I also like watching your channel. I will wait to see new react from you.😉
@Koko3op
@Koko3op 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@peachykai8254
@peachykai8254 2 жыл бұрын
Went back to watch the first reaction after seeing this one. I found it interesting how ten stood out to her the first time around, but after watching it again she seemed to favor winwin. Have to say I agree that Winwin definitely shined in this routine! I think she compared their dance lines and movements beautifully. Felt like she went more in depth with this one and I enjoyed it!
@ravenarceneaux2283
@ravenarceneaux2283 2 жыл бұрын
Yay some win win appreciation i luv him😫💞💞
@femmebrulee5053
@femmebrulee5053 Жыл бұрын
I never saw the original reaction but the dance was about light vs. dark.
@eileen8047
@eileen8047 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, I am sad to hear that you guys had to face harsh comments on the first video but you handled it like champs. And I must say even if I think you didn’t needed to make a re-do I absolutely ADORE this bcs her explanations and analysis were so elaborate and informative on this one. That was the part I felt was slightly missing in the first vid. P.S. Cee Cee you are amazing 🤩
@Koko3op_CeeCee
@Koko3op_CeeCee 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks sweets, I’ll try to find the balance between both in future. So I can be both honest in my opinion about the concept and routine presented
@ruslan_kasimov
@ruslan_kasimov 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the redo! I was really confused after watching the first one, because WinWin really outshined Ten in this video for me and was able to show his forte, which he usually doesn't get a chance to show 😒 So i was confused whether I'm dumb or CeeCee just didn't notice some details about the dance. Glad that both videos came out!
@Koko3op_CeeCee
@Koko3op_CeeCee 2 жыл бұрын
You’re never dumb for seeing something I don’t see! Enjoy the art, don’t worry about what stands out to others. All of that is entirely subjective, no right or wrong with art interpretation tbh
@chibiittomi1575
@chibiittomi1575 2 жыл бұрын
Totally loved every part of it!! Got to see much more commentary but I’m really sorry you guys had to read some of those displeasing comments, although I’m really happy Winwin’s getting much more recognition as he often doesn’t get particularly noticed for his dance a lot but Ofc I could trust professionals like you!!! Ten stans, Winwin deserves this and has always had some classic traditional Chinese dance while we all know Ten was originally trained as a bboy/hip hop dancer anyway so let’s not get that offended shall we? 😅
@ckohala
@ckohala 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the way she shares her point of view
@smpmpm0880
@smpmpm0880 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to do reaction of Ten x Winwin​ -​ Lovely💕
@sandman3384
@sandman3384 2 жыл бұрын
Love you Winwin
@tanithrea
@tanithrea 2 жыл бұрын
There can be beauty and comfort in your inner darkness just as easily as your light can be cruel and cold. I take this as the struggle to be both the person we think is ‘perfect’ as Ten tries to squash Winwin down but it’s not possible to eradicate the darkness from ourselves because we need both. And without the light and the dark we wouldn’t be human. Sometimes we have to embrace either side of ourselves to cope with the situation at hand and I saw this in their coming together at times where we are in balance and sync with ourselves, try to dominate over one side but then at the end ultimately we need the comfort and support as the traits that come with each archetype are the things that can maybe be the use of the darker side to fight back or protect ourselves just as the light can reach through trauma with kindness. I had also seen life and death in the trees and sorrow and grief cannot exist without love and company. But that it takes both to survive. A tree might die or be burnt but seedlings will grow in its place kind of thing. Winwin has some really beautiful stage pieces but they aren’t as easy or prevalent to find cause well frankly SM fails on China line in most groups but the lack of Winwin lines/screentime/content is among the worst. It would be interesting to see a reaction to his trained dance style. I can’t say I see skinship for it’s sake when it comes to dance it’s usually to me a means of telling the story and giving the link between the characters in contact in how and when it how often. But I know some fans go crazy the second two male idols touch or combo in choreo lol at times in the mvs or stages it’s just for hype and they are working, it’s their job to get the audience wound up. Lol
@annaa4274
@annaa4274 2 жыл бұрын
Even if I disagreed with some of her interpretations in the previous video, I feel sad that you felt you had to do a redo. The good thing about it is, that she had the chance to explain the movement in detail. I really enjoyed it, because she explains so well and I hope she will do it in upcoming videos, too. 👍
@marycarolmoran
@marycarolmoran 10 ай бұрын
Winwin placed first in China (I think in 2015) in classical Chinese dance, which is similar to western ballet. That's first place in a country of 1.4 billion people! Think gold medal at the Olympics good. His real name is Dong Sicheng. He's also a fine actor in Sweet Games, aided by his graceful movement and sense of space, and his expressive face. I've watched some videos of Baryshnikov recently. He is arguably the best dancer ever born, and he shines in explosive power and charisma. Winwin, to me, excels in controlled strength, graceful line and flow. I can't take my eyes off either of them.
@Weeping-Angel
@Weeping-Angel 2 жыл бұрын
It’s interesting to know how winwin’s traditional Chinese dance background has influenced his dancing. It would be cool if someone could watch the whole thing from the making! I wonder if it could add to one’s perspective.
@kenyanbee753
@kenyanbee753 2 жыл бұрын
The new intro will need some getting used to. I found myself singing the old one and yes I appreciate the re do. Thank you
@Koko3op
@Koko3op 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta keep you all on your toes! lool
@shanekasydial
@shanekasydial 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched this vid yet but I liked your previous commentary as I saw nothing wrong with it or anything you said.
@MiddleNamePetty
@MiddleNamePetty 2 жыл бұрын
Never met a monotone girl who has told a lie ever. So I had fun both times.
@chibiittomi1575
@chibiittomi1575 2 жыл бұрын
You know, speaking of how she likes interpreting things and beautiful body lines, I can't be the only one who thinks she'd like Ten's Hit The Stage Devils Performance(preferably dance practice ver cuz MNET...), other then that would also like to know her thoughts on Taemin Goodbye!
@gabigrl1968
@gabigrl1968 2 жыл бұрын
Just show her Rocky "Ice Flower" His dancing so beautiful and he does point his toes (haha) sorry little joke but yeah Rocky from Astro has very beautiful dance routines.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op 2 жыл бұрын
We filmed that also ;)
@nunu1401
@nunu1401 2 жыл бұрын
Always love to see her analysis of these performances! They are so honest and I love how she points out and recognizes things that us non dancers would have never noticed or appreciated. I would love to see her do a reaction/analysis of BTS’ Jimin!
@Koko3op_CeeCee
@Koko3op_CeeCee 2 жыл бұрын
Will you be able to cope if what I have to say isn’t favourable regarding Jimin’s dancing?
@nunu1401
@nunu1401 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I think I’ll manage.
@TaylorAmani
@TaylorAmani 2 жыл бұрын
I found both reactions to be wonderfully informative! Unfortunately, some fans tend to feel personally attacked if someone doesn't warm-up to their faves right away. You're doing great! Your analysis of winwin and ten's juxtaposition reminds me of this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fJ6bqphzr6jJk2Q.html What you correctly pointed out as winwin's polished technical style is referred to as an accent that winwin can't lose. I think you'd enjoy this off camera, Cee Cee!
@Koko3op_CeeCee
@Koko3op_CeeCee 2 жыл бұрын
Gave it a watch, very insightful. I think I mentioned in the video the similarities between ballet and traditional Chinese dance (my VERY limited knowledge). Thanks for the recommendation 😊
@treeflamingo
@treeflamingo 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I haven’t watched that video in ages. Thanks for bringing it up! It was a delight to watch it again~
@wowwow6488
@wowwow6488 2 жыл бұрын
would love to see her analysis/reaction to nct u's universe and coNEXTion
@gaddielladiengdohropmay6441
@gaddielladiengdohropmay6441 2 жыл бұрын
Ceecee looks like Lauren hill in Sister Act
@Koko3op_CeeCee
@Koko3op_CeeCee 2 жыл бұрын
Is this a good or bad thing
@gaddielladiengdohropmay6441
@gaddielladiengdohropmay6441 2 жыл бұрын
@@Koko3op_CeeCee good of course 😊. She's pretty...both of you are.
@Koko3op_CeeCee
@Koko3op_CeeCee 2 жыл бұрын
@@gaddielladiengdohropmay6441 aww, that’s nice of you to say 😊
@r.a.h1146
@r.a.h1146 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a very important detail in the conversation between Ten /Winwin in the making of this project (they chose their own partners…it was Winwin approached ten) Winwin “Have you ever done contemporary before?” Ten “No but I’ve always wanted to try it?” Winwin “Me too” Case in point…it seems neither of them had ever done contemporary before, this was a first regardless of their individual background. Winwin obviously Ch traditional (yes she spotted right…many similarities to ballet) and Ten originally a champion gymnast (hence the name Ten..more like a freak of nature in some of his other solo stuff OUUUUUUICH!!!🤯). As far as dance goes all I know is Ten’s own words “I learned from watching Step up, a LOOOOOT.”
@lynettetracht1836
@lynettetracht1836 2 жыл бұрын
Ok now I feel bad for what I said :(
@Koko3op_CeeCee
@Koko3op_CeeCee 2 жыл бұрын
Good 😉 lol it’s all good, I honestly am not hard pressed. Let me be me and it’s all gravy
@sabrinacarvalho6716
@sabrinacarvalho6716 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for taemin's video, " just me and you "^-^
@paulamusik2509
@paulamusik2509 Жыл бұрын
Big respect and thank you to her that she made another video about the routine! I have to be honest: I also didn't like the first video but not because of her skinship comment but just because I was hoping for a more in depth analysis because this choreography is contemporary-dance-esque and I was really excited that a contemporary dancer was reacting to it. I was kinda bummed that she didn't like it that much. And she is of course entitled to her opinion. But I just felt like she just had a very negative opinion of the dance from the get go and didn't really want to get into the dance much because of that, which I thought was a bit unfair to the viewers who were excited for the analysis and the dancers she was reviewing. I don't know if that is true of course, that was just my perception while watching the video and I don't want to hate on her or anything. I am all here for critical judgement but I just personally didn't like how some of hers was phrased in the last video. But like I said: She is of course entitled to her opinion and maybe some of the things she said seamed more harsh to the viewer than they were intended from her. I don't think that she deserved any of the hate she got and I in general think it's horrible that so many people in the comment section were so disrespectful. I really appreciate that you didn't let those comments get you down and still took the feedback of the comments with good intentions seriously and let it influence a new video. I really enjoyed this analysis and this deeper interpretion of her with the background knowledge to the choreography and that she gave us a more differenciated view on the choreography and some of comments in this video really gave me a new perspective and understanding of this routine. So thank you to the team and her
@perfectlyimperfect2719
@perfectlyimperfect2719 2 жыл бұрын
art is an explosian - KATSU
@victoriatortorici8034
@victoriatortorici8034 2 жыл бұрын
please make her react to its black swan and DNA OR FAKE LOVE
@ahmedabbaker5569
@ahmedabbaker5569 2 жыл бұрын
It's OK
@giulmao7800
@giulmao7800 2 жыл бұрын
i love Ceecees analysis and how honest she is, she adds another layer with the details its amazing. AND you can tell she knows what she does. she's so serious and genuine i love watching her reactions
@scholar-gd9cu
@scholar-gd9cu 2 жыл бұрын
I heard that you had to redo this reaction? Actually this is the first time Ten and Winwin tried contemporary dance, they tried it without proper coaching, and they directed and produced the whole video themselves. So I always expected constructive criticism for this dance cover. She's a pro, so she knows better than us.
@christopherbangbang1943
@christopherbangbang1943 2 жыл бұрын
I think this was a lovely (ha) analysis, sorry for all the rude comments y’all got last time everybody’s got different opinions :(
@elham4129
@elham4129 2 жыл бұрын
Please show her singularity from Taehyung stage cams 🥺
@Koko3op_CeeCee
@Koko3op_CeeCee 2 жыл бұрын
Love that song
@paris2______
@paris2______ 2 жыл бұрын
I love CeeCee. She is a complete mood! She has her own opinions and interpretations. If you don't agree, okay. But again, her thoughts are HER OWN. Let's just appreciate that they take the time to record, react/analyze, edit, upload, etc... Thank you for your time 🤗
@koriboyd9530
@koriboyd9530 2 жыл бұрын
You did not have to do a re-do for those people that don't know how to be respectful in the comments, but I appreciate it. First off, you can interpret this dance how you want, I saw it as light and darkness are trying to restrain or destroy the other, but then realizes at the end there's not one without the other. I also thought about Yin Yang, so whoever told you you're wrong, probably don't know what they're talking about. Dancing is up for interpretation, even if the dancers tell you what the dance is about, you still perceive it differently and people need to understand that.
@elias7858
@elias7858 2 жыл бұрын
Please always be very critical like you always do, I really enjoy people who are very critical in their criticism IGNORE THEM HATERSSS
@neoculttech
@neoculttech 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with her review, if u watch ten and winwin dancing to 90's love, ten feels so comfortable and in control since he's dancing a hip pop song and if u check winwin's debut with firetruck u can notice he was really struggling while learning the choreography, he's an incredible dancer but it's the different genres that make one shine on different songs
@moonthelisa
@moonthelisa 2 жыл бұрын
I love this Analyses bring here more times!! I want to see her commenting everything...let the haters bark!
@leydarachadey465
@leydarachadey465 2 жыл бұрын
Ten es genial. Pliss reacciona a TAEMIN
@laysd2576
@laysd2576 2 жыл бұрын
She wasn't nice the first time. But it was nice to see now..
@Spideymania
@Spideymania 2 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda salty you have to re-do this but I'm happy to see Ceecee again because she's awesome. I like her critiques. She's not the type to kiss ass and it shows. Everything she said in the previous video stands. I like her analysis and thoughts on dance. I want more!
@Koko3op_CeeCee
@Koko3op_CeeCee 2 жыл бұрын
@spookarella I like me too! I don’t kiss ass because I don’t really care enough about anything to do so. Glad you enjoyed my analysis… what would you like to see more of??
@Spideymania
@Spideymania 2 жыл бұрын
@@Koko3op_CeeCee I'd like to see your reactions to group dances. Like other choreo. I love dance so to have your critiques is cool. Maybe other groups who have members with backgrounds in dance?
@StyxDipped
@StyxDipped 2 жыл бұрын
I think people forget that this is a reaction channel and it’s okay for that to include criticism or dislikes. Those are still reactions. These artists don’t need to be defended to the point that you’re being disrespectful to anyone who doesn’t like them and I’m so sorry that you guys felt the need redo this. I love that you keep honest opinions in your videos, I know some reaction channels just don’t post the video if they didn’t like it? But hearing WHY professionals disliked it or hearing what they’d change is so interesting as opposed to faking enjoying it all. So thank you!
@Koko3op
@Koko3op 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed but not everyone is as mature because they see idols are vulnerable 6 year olds that need to be defended as if they’re not mature artists with minds of their own who are very used to criticisms lool
@Emily-sc9vy
@Emily-sc9vy 2 жыл бұрын
A thumbs down from me cos I really don’t think it’s necessary for her in specific to redo the video. Biased or not, first video was her true reaction and she did say what she said. nothing to apologise for. But probs cos of the previous hate comments, she seems a lil too defensive in this video. Making me doubt if she is actually commenting from her most neutral stand point. Regardless, thank you for the effort.
@mjtaladua1881
@mjtaladua1881 2 жыл бұрын
If you're a dancer you will understand what she's saying, different genre really give out different stance, execution, move etc. Ballet, classical, hip hop, break, traditional/folk dancer do have different way of training and how they execute a move. I'm a dancer since pre school until the 1st and 2nd year of my work life but still can't do what other dancers can do or even i can execute that move i can't perfect how a trained dancer of that genre can execute a certain move. Great analyzation.
@itacv8185
@itacv8185 2 жыл бұрын
the fact that you had to film a re-do is RIDICULOUS, she's a professional and I really appreciated her opinion whether I agree with her or not. I do appreciate the fact that you both took the constructive criticism and applied it UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE that apparently cant respect other opinions. I gotta say it felt a bit forced and she was definitely restraining from fully voicing her opinion which is so annoying because I HATE when reactors just say positive comments about everything because of fear of backlash from fans. like if you're being respectful and objective theres nothing wrong with different opinions. I really hope you have her react to more things and that she finds her happy middle where she doesn't feel forced to just say positive things or having to apologize when she critiques something because that's the whole point of having professionals react to the videos. ultimately Kpop fans need to grow up and stop being so butthurt. Once again I hope she can react to Taeyong and Shotaro!
@Koko3op
@Koko3op 2 жыл бұрын
Oh trust me, she wouldn’t force herself to say positive things just because lol. I think there was just more to say since there was more details to point out.
@itacv8185
@itacv8185 2 жыл бұрын
@@Koko3op good!! I hope she always feels she can say her opinions because it’s really interesting to see her point of view!
@Koko3op_CeeCee
@Koko3op_CeeCee 2 жыл бұрын
@@itacv8185 I’d rather say nothing than be forced to say something positive I don’t believe lol. I have more to say from an analysis perspective, whereas a reaction is me saying whatever springs to mind in the moment based on what I’m seeing or hearing. Whatever comes out my mouth will always be an honest opinion or perspective that is always mine and mine alone, I don’t mind people disagreeing with my perspective/interpretation
@ec7897
@ec7897 2 жыл бұрын
@@Koko3op_CeeCee I’m really interested in learning more about the intricacies of dance performances so I loved hearing your analysis! It would be amazing if you could do more analysis videos in the future!
@nicolebowers4571
@nicolebowers4571 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why everybody got so mad about the other video, It’s not like she was disrespectful or anything, she watched it and gave her opinion on what she saw. The other video where she watched the live performance I can see perfectly how she might think that it was a bit overly skinshipy because the crowd in the background got louder and more high pitched whenever they touched or got close. Also you couldn’t really see very well so you couldn’t get the emotions on their faces which is exactly why she didn’t watch the whole live video. She went back and watched the original performance video so that she could actually see the emotion and the meaning of the dance. She didn’t do anything wrong and I really wish people would calm down and stop getting so offended because someone doesn’t react in the way that they wanted them to react. Just because she doesn’t look super excited over something that you like doesn’t mean that she’s bored and even if she was bored who cares everybody’s opinions are going to be different and the fact that she might have an opinion that you don’t like doesn’t make her a bitch. Like y’all watch these videos to see their opinions so don’t get mad when they give it to you. Also not everybody watches things in the same way as some others might. She isn’t watching these from a fans perspective, she’s watching these videos with the more critical gaze of someone who has a dance background and is analyzing them to give her opinion.
@Koko3op
@Koko3op 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Nicole!
@yaelfica
@yaelfica 2 жыл бұрын
The only disrespect i saw was from someone saying it was skinship commanded by their CO...who said that? Ok If you haven't seen Rainbow V you have no valid opinion about how the choreo was created and the idea behind it If you say "i didn't like it for this or that" it's FINE. NO PROBLEM. You are completely allowed not to like it Two different things. I won't watch this one bc it was not necessary for her to do it again. Let's be more mature and respectful when giving an opinion the next time :)
@Koko3op
@Koko3op 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone has a valid opinion to "interpret" a dance performance. They don't need to see the behind the scenes in the same way fans do to form a valid opinion. Art is meant to be interpreted by the audience and not every audience has full context about everything. You should watch it again, you'll be surprised how many great things are pointed out here.
@yaelfica
@yaelfica 2 жыл бұрын
@@Koko3op saying it was made as fan service is not about the dancing. I have seen many reactors say they don't think this part or that part was necessary or certain position was forced etc. That's valid. Some may even say they don't think they're good dancers and that's ok too. Saying someone had "level headed response " bc they agreed with you saying " the kpop girlies are mad"...i don't see how that's a mature opinion about two artists performing Hey i can share the SS thru twitter anytime you want lol Let's be serious and accept our mistakes without blaming it to "kpop girlies" shall we?
@Koko3op_CeeCee
@Koko3op_CeeCee 2 жыл бұрын
@@yaelfica what mistake is there to accept? I stand by everything I said in the first video… I didn’t say that the whole routine was done for the sole purpose of showcasing skinship. I said it’s something labels and members KNOW is popular, they will add it in to things from time to time to spark more interest. Celebrity thrives off of parasocial relationships, that is global and not unique to the kpop industry. Anyway I’m not in the business of writing thesis in comment sections. But at some point I will dive into MY theories and perspectives on the music industry. But in short, I said what I said.
@yaelfica
@yaelfica 2 жыл бұрын
@@Koko3op_CeeCee what in the world does that have to do with a dance reaction...if you both got so much flak for that video there's a reason and you're the ones redoing a reaction. That's says it all at this point
@yaelfica
@yaelfica 2 жыл бұрын
@@Koko3op_CeeCee what in the world does that have to do with a dance reaction...if you both got so much flak for that video there's a reason and you're the ones redoing a reaction. That's says it all at this point
@neowaffle
@neowaffle 2 жыл бұрын
fake reaction? no, thanks😐🫥
@Koko3op_CeeCee
@Koko3op_CeeCee 2 жыл бұрын
Not a fake reaction, this is an analysis. Everything I said previously still stands.
@urijoosus
@urijoosus 2 жыл бұрын
You can also see the difference when they dance hiphop so they have different forte.... so no need to be sarry
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