Convair XF-92A Model 7002 (1948)

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13 жыл бұрын

This airplane was the world's first jet aircraft to fly using the radical delta-wing configuration pioneered by Germany's Dr. Alexander Lippisch during the 1930s.
The Convair Model 7002 was completed in 1948 as a flying mock-up for the proposed delta wing XP-92 interceptor. (In 1948 the Air Force changed the designation from P for pursuit to F for fighter.) The XP-92 was to be powered with a new propulsion system that consisted of a ramjet engine with several small rockets inside the combustion chamber. It would have been a short range, Mach 1.65 interceptor with a flight time at altitude of 5.4 minutes. The Model 7002 was designed to investigate delta wing behavior at low and high subsonic speeds.
When the XP-92's engine proved impractical to build, the project was shelved in 1948. Even as the XP-92 program was ending, the Model 7002 was being prepared to fly. The 7002 was initially powered by an Allison J33-A-23 turbojet engine and later the J33-A-29 turbojet with afterburner. It was formally delivered to the USAF on May 14, 1949, and named the XF-92. It was flown by Air Force test pilots until its nose gear collapsed on landing on Oct. 14, 1953, ending its flying career. With the experience gained from the XF-92 program, Convair was able to win the competition for the "1954 Interceptor" program and to build the successful delta-wing F-102.
Only one XF-92A was built; it was delivered to the museum in 1969 from the University of the South, Sewanee, Tenn.
U.S. Air Force Test Base in Muroc, California. This film covers the first test flight of the Model 7002 (Air Force designation, XF-92A). The scenes show the XF-92A No. 6682 as it was being towed from its hangar by tug, the pilot as he boarded the aircraft, fast taxi tests, a low flight over the runway, takeoff and landing. The film also includes aerial shots of the XF-92A in flight and as it approached for landing.
National Archives and Records Administration - ARC Identifier 66653 / Local Identifier 342-USAF-22783 - Research Tests of Convair Model 7002 Airplane - Department of Defense. Department of the Air Force. (09/26/1947).
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@scootergeorge9576
@scootergeorge9576 10 жыл бұрын
It should be noted that delta wing aircraft like the XF-92 and follow on F-102 were not capable of supersonic speeds in level flight untill the countour of the fuselage was changed to a coke bottle like shape that was the basis of the so called "area rule."
@jcforge
@jcforge 5 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's not "so called" it IS the Whitcomb area rule or transonic area rule. It helps to calculate drag, taken as a cross-section of the air-frame at all points along it. They didn't know about this at the time so these planes dramatically under performed compared with expected result. Now most fighters, and bombers, have a blended body design, also use the area rule to determine and design around total drag.
@scootergeorge9576
@scootergeorge9576 4 жыл бұрын
@chris younts - Beyond being a bomber interceptor, what qualities as a fighter aircraft did the 106 have?
@thetreblerebel
@thetreblerebel 3 жыл бұрын
That's why the F5 is a smooth supersonic fighter. It's area rule developed fuselage.
@scootergeorge9576
@scootergeorge9576 3 жыл бұрын
@@thetreblerebel - When I retired from the Navy, the adversary squadron I was assigned to, VFC-13 was flying the A-4F. They later transitioned to the F/A-18A and now fly the F-5.
@Airsally
@Airsally Жыл бұрын
Think they also changed the inlets on the 102.
@PhilippeRR1
@PhilippeRR1 8 жыл бұрын
Highly educational. Thank you for uploading.
@ecurb10
@ecurb10 5 жыл бұрын
Great watching these old videos....thanks for posting!
@Brera011
@Brera011 13 жыл бұрын
For 1948 this plane was way ahead of its time. It looks like, later, Delta Darts or Delta Daggers.
@MrLuvOldies
@MrLuvOldies 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Very interesting video.
@LTF85199
@LTF85199 13 жыл бұрын
Just in time, I was researching on a delta wing design for my RC plane
@proberts34
@proberts34 4 жыл бұрын
Snazzy aircraft, considering that Chuck Jaeger flew super-sonic just 2 years earlier. But boy-oh-boy is that a big rudder.
@deetjay1
@deetjay1 11 жыл бұрын
Wow! Nice vid Air...I was born in 1948...Along time ago!
@LanceWinslow
@LanceWinslow 10 жыл бұрын
It's great to watch these videos of #aviationhistory
@jimburig7064
@jimburig7064 4 жыл бұрын
Hope this old girl is sitting preserved in a museum.
@MehrLovin
@MehrLovin 4 жыл бұрын
This video has sold me on a 60 degree sweep for ALL aircraft
@silvereagle2061
@silvereagle2061 13 жыл бұрын
Forward swept wing design is also good. In rocketry I used such designs.
@garymckee8857
@garymckee8857 4 жыл бұрын
Futuristic.
@billbright1755
@billbright1755 4 жыл бұрын
You can see the big tail that the 102 had to be retro fitted with. Mainly the 102 suffering from low power jets of the time. Put an F 16 engine in one and see how she performs. It was intended to intercept in coming bombers. With more power and area rule waist it probably would still be formidable in certain roles.
@0MoTheG
@0MoTheG 13 жыл бұрын
60° is rather a lot 55° are more common. That they encountered lower drag than predicted was normal, the theory of supersonic flight was off back then, they didn't know that the drag becomes lower once the shock-wave is penetrated. The engine in- and out-lets look small.
@PhilippeRR1
@PhilippeRR1 8 жыл бұрын
From what I read, Chuck Yeager and Scott Crossfield did not have a high opinion of this aircraft (it's J33 engine being underpowered did not help).
@checkyoursix5623
@checkyoursix5623 5 жыл бұрын
J33's were centrifugal compressor designs. Best they had at that time. Axial compressor designs hadn't evolved yet ...
@KB4QAA
@KB4QAA 5 жыл бұрын
PR: It was a research plane on the bleeding edge of the unknown. It didn't have to "impress" anyone.
@chopchop7938
@chopchop7938 5 жыл бұрын
@@KB4QAA He said it was Crossfield's and Yeager's "opinion" of the plane. He didn't say anything about being "impressed." Totally different.
@trjnsd6874
@trjnsd6874 5 жыл бұрын
@@checkyoursix5623 The German Messerschmitt Me262 used Junkers Jumo axial flow engines..in 1942.
@johnhardman3
@johnhardman3 5 жыл бұрын
Dr. Alexander Lippisch was working on delta-wing research in WW2 for the.Luftwaffe: witg others, he designed the Me163/263 rocket-powered fighters, and was later shipped to the U.S. where he helped create the Convair deltas that culminated in the F106.
@johnorlitta
@johnorlitta Жыл бұрын
I believe there was a documentary that I watched here on KZfaq, in the documentary Dr. Lippish is completely discredited with the Project 7002 delta design, saying that it was in the works way before Dr. Lippisch's work was accessed by the allies.
@killer1963daddy
@killer1963daddy 3 жыл бұрын
Brought to you by the makers of lawn dart!
@thetreblerebel
@thetreblerebel 3 жыл бұрын
So underpowered I'm surprised it even made supersonic flight at all. These were not great times for the jet fighter except for maybe, the F86
@Pimp-Master
@Pimp-Master 4 жыл бұрын
Looks in profile somewhat like a MiG-15 with the huge tail in proportion to the fuselage.
@scottleft3672
@scottleft3672 4 жыл бұрын
TZis ist zee Lippisch mobile....the same fellah that gave us the sound breaking Me163 Komet.
@LTF85199
@LTF85199 13 жыл бұрын
Airboyd is there a way to post more engineering or aerodynamic videos like these in the future please.
@scottleft3672
@scottleft3672 4 жыл бұрын
I half expect to see one of the characters from "I dream of Jeanie" address the camera.
@simonchaddock4274
@simonchaddock4274 6 жыл бұрын
Area rule fuselage. Did the supersonic prototype English Electric Lightening (F1) have area rule? The Mach 1.2 P1 definitely did not - I was looking at the original just 2 days ago.
@scottleft3672
@scottleft3672 4 жыл бұрын
Speed made it redundant.
@maxsmodels
@maxsmodels 13 жыл бұрын
they were heady times.
@wayneyadams
@wayneyadams 4 жыл бұрын
These old films remind me of the films we used to see in elementary school. The narrators all sounded the same. Come to think of it, maybe they were the same guy.
@tomcline5631
@tomcline5631 4 жыл бұрын
Chuck Yeager flew a lot of the test flights for this aircraft. Now You Know
@planeterry
@planeterry 7 жыл бұрын
Very educational. What is up with that burned out airplane at 6:15? Looks like it was a B-29 that did a belly landing & caught fire.
@bushpilot172
@bushpilot172 7 жыл бұрын
It may be the first prototype Republic XF-12 Rainbow. It was damaged in a landing accident in july 1947, possibly at Muroc, California (Edwards AFB) which is where the XF-92 was being tested starting in April 1948. I don't know how extensive the damage to the aircraft was, and the XF-12 looks a lot like a B-29. The 6:15 image could be a B-29 for all I know.
@robertmarx8430
@robertmarx8430 6 жыл бұрын
If that B-29 is sitting like that at Muroc in that timeframe. It could very well be sitting in the pit that they connected the X- planes to the B-29 mothership that would do airborne test launches. That would be my guess.
@checkyoursix5623
@checkyoursix5623 5 жыл бұрын
It's probably a hulk dedicated to fire fighting practice for the crash fire crews. AFB's have two fire crews - structural and crash ...
@trjnsd6874
@trjnsd6874 5 жыл бұрын
@@bushpilot172 From the shape of the fuselage, tail and engine nacelles I'd say its a B-29. Definitely looks burned; fire-rescue training?
@troydevenberg9107
@troydevenberg9107 4 жыл бұрын
bushpilot172 o
@andysolution62
@andysolution62 6 жыл бұрын
ein klassischer Lippisch-Entwurf nicht mehr & nicht weniger....
@scottleft3672
@scottleft3672 4 жыл бұрын
Jah.
@austin1839
@austin1839 4 жыл бұрын
An operational version of the F-16 was made with a Delta Wing and was quite promising. Of course it was never put into production. Politics kills all good ideas.
@spidez8407
@spidez8407 13 жыл бұрын
yes!!! got my aircraft fix hey airboydi kno this is a stupid question but you got any p-51 mustang vids??
@jimparsons6803
@jimparsons6803 4 жыл бұрын
Them were the days? Not cool enough for the more modern pilots, maybe. I think that at mach 1 and higher there is a bit of a lock up between the flaps and the wing proper. It works a little better if the whole wing/flap moves at the same time. That's why the conard (spelling?) with some later aircraft. Informative, though.
@TheSpoon369
@TheSpoon369 8 жыл бұрын
wonder what the story of that downed 4 engine plane is at 6:18
@MrRobster1234
@MrRobster1234 8 жыл бұрын
It's what is left of a B-29, an aircraft that was famous for engine fires due to the high temperatures they ran at.
@Pimp-Master
@Pimp-Master 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrRobster1234 Leaving it to rot in the sand...I wonder if pilots felt that could be bad luck?
@johnjosephfontaine2712
@johnjosephfontaine2712 3 жыл бұрын
Das ist Duetsch!!!! I’ve seen the model from the 30s😺😺😺😺
@adnanhalofi8995
@adnanhalofi8995 3 жыл бұрын
Lippische....??
@adriandecu6846
@adriandecu6846 5 жыл бұрын
Avro cf 105 Arrow...🙂 Two engines...
@cristianhott937
@cristianhott937 4 жыл бұрын
Lippisch P13 - P20
@colerend4431
@colerend4431 3 жыл бұрын
No it's not a lippisch copy. P. 13 maybe looks similar but those two are not the same.
@swunt10
@swunt10 3 жыл бұрын
@@colerend4431 actually lippisch developed this aircraft when he was send to the US after the war.
@colerend4431
@colerend4431 3 жыл бұрын
@@swunt10 yes but only wings resemble p. 13 fuselage is totally different.
@swunt10
@swunt10 3 жыл бұрын
@@colerend4431 Lippisch changed it ever so slightly. so what's your point? he still developed it.
@colerend4431
@colerend4431 3 жыл бұрын
@@swunt10 he said that it was p13 and its simply not true. I don't care if lippisch designed them both.
@beverlychmelik5504
@beverlychmelik5504 4 жыл бұрын
The music sounds like Russian marshal music
@myronplichota7965
@myronplichota7965 5 жыл бұрын
"And then some peckerwood's gotta land the son of a bitch, and that's what we call a pilot."
@Yosemite-George-61
@Yosemite-George-61 Жыл бұрын
Those were the days... build a jewell of technology and take it to the dessert to expose it to fine sand dust and salt... 🙂
@RetroAmateur1989
@RetroAmateur1989 12 жыл бұрын
how much did cameras with color cost at the time?
@joemeyer6876
@joemeyer6876 4 жыл бұрын
Fine German engineering
@Grommo
@Grommo 13 жыл бұрын
@Brera011 If you think it looked ahead of it's time, check out what the grandfather of it was: watch?v=MvtxjSrImHw
@billbright1755
@billbright1755 6 жыл бұрын
102 written all over it. 100 air intake,, 105 exhaust cone, 86 canopy.
@user-rc1ke1ef3t
@user-rc1ke1ef3t 4 жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Lippisch
@modulfleirfall
@modulfleirfall 4 жыл бұрын
German WW2 Science. Alexander Lippish.
@RocketTCoyote
@RocketTCoyote 11 жыл бұрын
Looong afterburner!
@soaringvulture
@soaringvulture 5 жыл бұрын
No afterburner on the original engine.
@flutter8712
@flutter8712 7 жыл бұрын
should be very scary to fly this out
@buckbuchanan5849
@buckbuchanan5849 4 жыл бұрын
Looked unstable, from the video during takeoff and touchdown phases.
@ghostdiaries369
@ghostdiaries369 3 жыл бұрын
That looks like a german design
@diana8259
@diana8259 5 жыл бұрын
Copia de un avión alemán de los Años 30. EL TIMÓN DE COLA ES IDÉNTICO . ...SORRY NO SPEAK ENGLISH. ..
@adriandecu6846
@adriandecu6846 5 жыл бұрын
El nome del avion aleman?
@diana8259
@diana8259 5 жыл бұрын
@@adriandecu6846 es el primer video que tengo en mi canal Son difíciles de recordar esos nombres alemanes. Como el 'messertmtich' y creo que lo escribi mal
@adriandecu6846
@adriandecu6846 5 жыл бұрын
@@diana8259 es possible Messerschmitt 262.... Ma no delta wings... 😉
@diana8259
@diana8259 5 жыл бұрын
@@adriandecu6846 En el video se ve volando , es casi es igual y hecho hace más de 80 años , además ellos admiten que era un proyecto alemán. .
@diana8259
@diana8259 5 жыл бұрын
@Max Montana los increíbles proyectos alemánes , muchos no se llevaron a cabo porque perdieron la guerra. Y CUAĹ ERA EL ARMA MARAVILLOSA QUE IBA A CAMBIAR EL Curso de la guerra? Creo que tenían un proyecto atómico en iban por delante del proyecto Manhattan , nunca se habla de esto Hasta donde llegaron los nazis con su bomba atômica. .. ? Nunca lo sabremos
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