Who do you think had the best showing at Pinball Expo this year? Let me know in the comments below!
@canadaphil606810 ай бұрын
Best summary of the Expo put out thus far! It's amazing how much info you were able to pack into this one short video. Thanks! 😊
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, glad you liked the video!
@canadaphil606810 ай бұрын
@@cooltoyAnd... I cannot disagree with anything you said about the Atgames/Zen launch "grand reveal". Some of this is really unfortunate.. like completely unforced errors.
@paulberres987810 ай бұрын
First time going and agree it was an amazing event. Brought my son and played just about every table on the floor. Loved Pulp Fiction and Toy Story 4. Didn’t wait in line for Elton John. Maybe next year for the 40th. Heard Rob Berk say he wanted to add an additional day. Probably need to stay down there next year for a couple days. Good Times!!
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
I’m sure he’d like to add an additional day, but I know that’s likely a difficult decision since it takes so much effort to move everything in and out for set up and tear down
@paulberres987810 ай бұрын
I would like to do the Stern and JJP factory tour next year, if possible. I guess staying offsite would be good too, since everything is so close
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
I wanted to do the Stern tour, but I backed out when I was told there was no photos or video recording allowed.
@MichaelSmith-fd9ec10 ай бұрын
Good to know Mr.Beres is a pinball fan!
@paulberres987810 ай бұрын
😂 Mike, I didn't know I was, but I'm starting to really enjoy it. I'm looking forward to playing more in the near future. Good to hear from you, bud!
@RichieCavsRetrocade10 ай бұрын
Good to hear about Pulp Fiction. I put a deposit down on the Bad Mother Flipper Limited version months ago. It'll be my first brand new out of the box pinball and can't wait for it.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Nice! I’m sure that bad boy when bring you loads of enjoyment when it arrives. 👍
@geneg13610 ай бұрын
Amazing time at Pinball Expo! Pulp Fiction was the winner for me - absolutely amazing. Already have played Venom and The Big Lebowski but they are my other 2 picks for recent and or great newer games. All had that one more play factor!
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
I’ve got a friend who has Pulp Fiction on preorder, so I’m looking forward to spending more time with the game and learning it more when his machine arrives.
@Lithonion110 ай бұрын
You solidified my reason for not per-ordering the new AtGames pin. I will always have a V-Pin so I can play the pins I can't afford and with the way the prices have gone, that's a lot of them. lol Might just keep my Gen 1 and put a bigger back box on it.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
happy I could help!
@cwafflestx10 ай бұрын
I’m sure (hopeful) that Zen will tighten the code up on Addams Family before its release. I have this pre-ordered as part of Wave 1 and really don’t want to be disappointed.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
The Zen side of things is the least worrying to me, it's the AtGames side of this arrangement that has me worried. AtGames seems to get in their own way a lot of the time and fumbles new product launches with oddball choices.
@cwafflestx10 ай бұрын
@@cooltoy Part of my reason for getting it is for the OTG mode and the ability to hook up a PC (like I have now on my modded A1U) and run my tables from there on 4K screens. This seems like it would be a good setup for running VPX on a 4K playfield in theory. I don’t have the skills to build my own vpin from ground up.
@kantidinda621810 ай бұрын
Very nice to meet you on the weekend Doug. I agree, show was fantastic and well organized. Some great games and great people. Now to bed after 8 hours in the car lol.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Absolutely, great meeting you in person and getting to chat with you! Rest up, I know my butt is sore from all the driving I did today to get back home.
@ien202310 ай бұрын
Finally some real critique about ALP HD. They should of center the buttons with the faux coin door and not the cab.
@ScottParisi10 ай бұрын
Super recap. The adaptive booth had some amazing innovations. I was impressed with their gear. Really played well. The new Namco bowling game was also great. Good time for sure.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Yeah the bowling game was super cool, I loved how that machine also doubles as an at home jukebox
@TerryRed10 ай бұрын
Thanks for mentioning the off-center coin door on the ALP4K. It drives me nuts, lol :)
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
I’m seriously blown away that something like that would pass “the sniff test” of a product before it goes into production. It’s so glaringly obvious that it’s off center that it boggles my mind that it wasn’t changed.
@asianpussykat3310 ай бұрын
Glad you talked about the lag on the @games virtual pinball table. I wanted to like it but that lag was terrible!!!!!! Went from thinking maybe I'll get one one day.. to nope I'll just build my own
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
yeah it really was a terrible gameplay experience due to the delays in gameplay on Addams Family, certainly not how you want to introduce a product to potential new customers. Especially at a pinball expo when the majority of the crowd is going to be VERY familiar with how Addams Family should feel and play already.
@EQOAnostalgia10 ай бұрын
4k at 60hz is the likely culprit... should have shot for 2k 120hz.
@EQOAnostalgia10 ай бұрын
@@cooltoy Yeah i noticed on Wagners stream, a couple played for a bit and dude turns to the camera with a grimace lol. Not good.
@TiltingT10 ай бұрын
I had an absolute blast at Expo..and I agree Labyrinth absolutely won Expo! It's was awesome getting to play a few games with ya. The Atgames was terrible so much flipper lag it was unplayable. Hope to see ya at next year's expo!
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
So glad we got to meet and play some pinball together! Fingers crossed I can come up to expo again next year.
@TiltingT10 ай бұрын
@cooltoy Yeah brother I had a blast playing with ya and talking would love to do it again next year!
@therexershow10 ай бұрын
Good video Doug, thanks for the recap.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Any time!
@hvntr10 ай бұрын
Beautiful video production! And cool documentary of the event. Greetings from Helsinki, Finland!
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, glad to hear you enjoyed the video!
@richardabkstorm900910 ай бұрын
As far as AtGames goes.... I am a big fan as I have owned 2 ALPs now and am a fan of their products... I was so excited to see their 4K machine there and my first thought was...Why are the Start and Home buttons so small and why is everything not centered?! Then playing the machine, the lag was too much on the flippers to me, and I had a hard time believing some of those games were 4K... Do better AtGames. Please.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Definitely not the kind of grand reveal they were hoping for. The whole 4K thing just comes across as a marketing gimmick to me on that machine. It’s just not nearly big enough nor a high enough quality to really be anything the average consumer would notice a difference in. A 120hz screen should have been their priority with this machine and not 4K.
@richardabkstorm900910 ай бұрын
@@cooltoy 🎯🎯🎯
@ChrisAguilar10 ай бұрын
yeah, a 1440p screen and 120hz seems smart. Addams Family plays smooth as butter on my mid level gaming pc at 1440p and up to 165 fps (tho' I generally cap at 120 or 144). @@cooltoy
@jerrytorres47879 ай бұрын
that was cool seeing all those new machines! i thought i would never see hercules pinball again more like cueball if you played it. redondo beach ca. boardwalk last time i played it many years ago.
@thebrokebrick775510 ай бұрын
The quality of your videos is always top notch. Great editing, too. Loved the Expo but never spotted you or Cary! Looking forward to Barrels of Fun getting an ip I care about because Labyrinth was an outstanding first effort even if not my dream theme. Honestly, the build of that machine had me FOMOing and wanting one even not caring much about Labyrinth. Sounds like you may be buying one because you're fond of the source material. Awesome! Great staff at this event. They deserve a lot of credit all around for keeping it all running smoothly and great.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. Sorry we didn't get to bump into each other. I know it's kind of hard to meet people when most of us are facedown staring at machines looking the other way a lot of times.
@bystander8510 ай бұрын
The AtLegends machines would be much more interesting to me if it had a 120+ Hz screen and had the ability to bring the screen closer to the lockdown bar if you opted not to use the arcade stick add-on
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
You and me both, those two things would certainly enhance not only the look, but the overall gameplay experience
@Bearcade10 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the show and was great to meet ya in person. Thanks for chatting.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Glad I ran into you!
@theiceman197210 ай бұрын
Thanks for being honest about the atgames Adams family machine. It’s very much appreciated.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Always! I hope they work out the kinks because more pinball options out there wether its virtual or physical is always good for customers. But in it's current state, this machine just does more harm than good for the pinball player.
@adamkalb141210 ай бұрын
❤next level pinball news here ! Great work Doug🏁
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
@adamkalb141210 ай бұрын
@@cooltoy ❤️🏁
@MidwestVillain_Z10 ай бұрын
My local pinball arcade actually has a Hercules, very cool to play in person
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Wow, that’s impressive
@stringerfilms.10 ай бұрын
Great meeting you in person! Have a safe trip home bro!
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Thanks, had fun chatting with you too!
@jeffmeyers841710 ай бұрын
Looks like a lot of fun! I will be there.
@YourRetro-Cade10 ай бұрын
Bummed you didn't stop by and say hi!
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
I'll have to catch you all next time!
@patrickheim78239 ай бұрын
Yes, I have a personal interest - I put the anti-reflective coating (that's what we call it) on both sides of the glass. Thank you.
@MichaelBtheGameGenie10 ай бұрын
Great video Doug! Glad to hear Pulp Fiction is good. That’s on my radar to check out. Did you get a chance to check out Turner Brothers Ninja Eclipse?
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
I did check out Ninja Eclipse, game was so so, the most impressive thing to me was his coinless point of sale system he had created. I think he should have been trying to sell that to game operators and not trying to sell Ninja Eclipse honestly. He's got a huge money saving idea that has loads of upside potential for game operators but he seemed to be focusing on trying to show of the pinball machine itself more than anything.
@kjhoskins10 ай бұрын
Looks like you had a blast. I wish I could have been there. Thanks for sharing.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Next time definitely make it out if you can, I had a wonderful time there!
@BrigetteSinging10 ай бұрын
Great summary !!! Thank you.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Brian-kn1qw10 ай бұрын
The show was amazing! Labyrinth was cool but the code has a long way to go to make it a keeper!
@SpringfieldsPerfecTint10 ай бұрын
I wish I could’ve made it but I’ve spent the last five days building a fence. I’m glad to hear playing Pulp Fiction was a good experience for you, I’m looking forward to getting mine. First I’ve heard of Magic Girl, I’m going to do some research on it now. Thanks for showing the Expo experience, I hope to make it next year. I’m hoping to go to TPF, in March.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
I'm also going to see if I can make it to TPF in March. Texas weather in March certainly beats the hell out of what we have in Missouri around that time of year! Plus I'm sure we will have some more new machines ready to be shown off from some of these companies by then, so I'd love to check those out.
@BiggggyD10 ай бұрын
American pinball did well with Galactic Tank Force but I've also enjoyed Hot Wheels.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Yeah both were really fun to play. American Pinball definitely put on a good showing and display for all their products at the expo.
@jzielinski47239 ай бұрын
Nice, succint summary. Well done and Ty
@cooltoy9 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@ProjectGenesisMusic10 ай бұрын
Definitely gotta go back next year I had a lot of fun for being a casual pinball player.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
What was your favorite(s) machine you played at the show?
@cyanidechrist7 ай бұрын
Nice work. Right down to business.
@cooltoy7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@patperez410 ай бұрын
Great coverage of the expo this weekend!
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
thank you so much!
@IanJacobyandcompany10 ай бұрын
Good to meet ya, bud. I still owe you a mag!
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
It was a pleasure chatting with you man, maybe I can catch you at the next big show.
@dangerdonk667010 ай бұрын
I bought a Labyrinth, can't wait.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Nice! Did you get any of their other accessories to go with your macine?
@King_Henry10 ай бұрын
What a badass rundown man!! I need to check out your older content; I like your ‘cool cat’ attitude without the hardass mentality. Subbed!
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Awesome! Glad to hear you enjoyed the video. I appreciate the kind words and feedback!
@svenop10 ай бұрын
The ALP HD with s screen upgrade to 1440 is the way to go
@jdteney10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked pulp. Pretty much everyone who plays it ends up liking it a lot
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s a key factor that points to a well designed game, if it wins over the neigh sayers the moment one plays it, then it’s clearly a winner.
@richardabkstorm900910 ай бұрын
Too bad I missed you Doug...I live 5 minutes from there in Schaumburg and was there every day...👍🙏
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Bummer, maybe I can catch you next time! It’s hard to bump into people at the show when most of us have our heads down facing machines a lot of the time. Gotta say I thought Schaumburg was a really nice place 👍
@timothyroth495510 ай бұрын
It was good meeting you at expo
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Yes sir, glad we got to meet!
@nerdloftgaming9 ай бұрын
Shame for the buggy build on the AtGames 4KP. The faux coin door misalignment is an issue that’ll be addressed by them thankfully. I agree if folks are adding the SSF, it should be preinstalled before reaching customers. The UI is a huge improvement over the ancient one they’ve been using across their home arcade lineup. I wouldn’t blame AtGames if players aren’t familiar with a vpin UI, because it now follows a traditional setup - new players would be a little confused with navigation controls in a vpin setup, AtGames or not. That said, awesome coverage good sir!
@silentlyjudging10 ай бұрын
This year they had two stern stranger things one was modded with extra dice / cars in the playfield pretty cool. Had to get a pinball expo t-shirt the designs are great every year. Woodfield mall nearby has a new restaurant with some pinballs/arcade/bowling. For next year I hope the convention center would book something pinball-adjacent instead of home & garden whatever that was going on at the same time!
@Diskoboy197410 ай бұрын
I still don't see how Elton John won best pin of 2023. 1. It hasn't even been shipped yet. So most pinheads haven't played it yet. 2. Foo Fighters should've won. It's one of the best shooting games I've played since TZ. 3. I'm more hyped for Pulp Fiction than any other pin coming up, with the exception of possibly Jaws.
@burnoutjunkie4210 ай бұрын
Love the AtGames criticism, you might be the first one who gave out some really good advice before the release in December/January. The navigation menu looks awful, why oh why is it set up that way?
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
hopefully someone listens over there and takes the free advice
@EQOAnostalgia10 ай бұрын
@@cooltoy Eh, i doubt it, they are surrounded by a bunch of yes men who want dibs on free product and algo priorities. Thanks for keeping it real as usual man. We appreciate you here!
@rushmore39279 ай бұрын
@@EQOAnostalgia Most companies are- even the military. They don't want to disrupt their job or promotion opportunities.
@deanmcmanis939810 ай бұрын
Thanks for your video, and especially unbiased Atgames review. I pre-ordered the 4K pinball, and it will be my first virtual pinball game. Hopefully they will get the delays and bugs sorted out before deliveries begin.
@rushmore39279 ай бұрын
AtGames should have disabled the special effects, since that graphic layer at 4K is a GPU burden for that ARM chipset. Probably would have played smooth then and they could say the effects are being worked on.
@kiodiekin10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
My pleasure
@LordCyler10 ай бұрын
I was personally surpised by the lack of pinball themed tees/hoodies/hats/etc for sale. Felt like an obvious gap in the market at the Expo.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
I did see lots of merch for sale, but I found them way off in corners and far out of the way of general foot traffic, which definitely is not ideal for the sellers and vendors.
@gwildor854310 ай бұрын
Seems like we are very much on the same page. Labyrinth was best in show for me and I also loved the flow of Elton John. I also played Ninja Eclipse by Turner Logic and wasn’t impressed at all. It actually felt more like a homebrew and I don’t like the design choice for the cabinet. It definitely won’t look nice in a pinball lineup. Also what doesn’t sit right with me with Turner Logic/Pinball is there connection to Deep Root and Chris Turner’s purchase of all the leftovers of Zidware/Deep Root. I feel that alone is a curse.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
The best thing about the Turner Pinball thing was their new point of sale coinless application thing. It would be far and away cheaper for operators to use that system he was marketing than buying a card reader for each and every pinball machine they own. I agree, Ninja Eclipse felt more like a home made game than something that was a polished product, and having the reduced cabinet size makes it feel like a lesser product automatically, and certainly not something justifying a premium $7K+ price tag.
@Rushlarz211210 ай бұрын
Bummer about atgame. I preordered mine and looking forward to a fun Christmas getting it first. Love Addams Family the pin and the Zen licensing really made it more. Hope the bugs are fixed. Your word is trusted I know your and AEW fan so maybe we just gotta trust the story
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
They really need to delay shipments of the machine if they can’t get the bugs worked out quickly. Because if you opened this up on Christmas morning and played it in its current state you’d be very unhappy,
@scottgul17410 ай бұрын
Shocked you didn’t show Elton John showcase!!!??? Crazy long lines and one badass pinball machine! I would have put Labyrinth 3rd or 4th best due to lack of anything in middle of the machine. But cool sound in it!
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
I already posted a dedicated video on the Elton John machine prior to this video. Didn’t feel like rehashing it a second time
@CombatandCollecting10 ай бұрын
Great video. Kudos.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@LesZaldor10 ай бұрын
My son was there as his friend helped out with the Elton John game... Surprised you didn't have any footage of the Elton John game!
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
I have a dedicated video already uploaded on the channel about the Elton John game.
@BiggggyD10 ай бұрын
Great video, PD7 said he gave you a fist bump at the convention, looking forward to meeting you someday. Are you going to Texas pinball festival?
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Not sure yet, I’ll have to figure that out as that show gets closer. I definitely want to attend, it would be a good excuse for me to visit some of my Texas family while I’m down there.
@acidgougewaltz10 ай бұрын
that line-up of atari pinball was pretty rare. and there was an Olympic Hockey there (which i'd never personally seen) years of being in the pinball hobby.... many many conventions, shows, etc..... never seen myself in anyone else's video.... but there i am in your video.... and i need to lose weight
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Did you enjoy your time at the expo?
@acidgougewaltz10 ай бұрын
@@cooltoy of course. good game selection. lots of familiar faces. always a good time
@thesmoness8 ай бұрын
RIght on glad you liked Alien - I have 6 machines now that include like GZ prem and my Alien LV is my most played and it's not even close. Amazing game, takes more tweaking and dialing in but once you got your machine dialed its epic. PB has been the best service and support in the industry as well. However I am worried about them going foward I think Queen was a flop and rumor has it ABBA is next but all the Pinball design talent seems to have been at Hwy not PB.
@jasenwm9 ай бұрын
That KZfaq money will. Pay for that magic girl. Next video I want to see a review of it in your house
@cooltoy9 ай бұрын
lol the KZfaq money I make didn’t even cover my gas to drive up to this event.
@jasenwm9 ай бұрын
@@cooltoy we appreciate your hard work sir!
@HitnRunTony10 ай бұрын
Was looking forward to the AtGames, so I hope they fix the bugs
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Fingers crossed because in its current state it’s not something customers will be happy with
@MichaelSmith-fd9ec10 ай бұрын
Very cool seeing those pinball modifications! Atgames dropped the pinball😮
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
There was lots of cool pinball mod vendors throughout the show, from little simple things all the way to super complex. Definitely something for anyone and any budget.
@MichaelSmith-fd9ec10 ай бұрын
@@cooltoy I liked the mods aimed at people with special needs. I’ve never thought about someone who had a disability and not able to use hands and still be able to enjoy pinball, but after watching your video it really made an impact. You’re the only one I saw cover that. Remember Xbox made a special controller, but never saw mods like pedals for pinball etc.. Well done Doug.
@GuitarsAndSynths10 ай бұрын
I am waiting for the new Jaws and Metallica pinball machines to drop next year.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
I’m really hoping an Elwin Jaws turns into a reality!
@GuitarsAndSynths10 ай бұрын
me too!@@cooltoy
@Jambon_Emmental10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid. I think it would annoy me having a virtual cabinet with Addams Family artwork if it was mainly used to play non-Addams Family games. Maybe that's just me being OCD though.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
glad the video has helpful!
@photograph1710 ай бұрын
So disappointing to hear your impressions of the 4k pinball! Out of all the machines, this is the only one I could ever hope to afford. I held off pre-ordering as I have no affinity for the Addams Family thankfully. Hoping they might release an Indiana Jones version, and of course have the bugs fixed by then.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
I'm sure Indiana Jones will likely get it's own skinned cabinet release from AtGames. I think they said something like 15 different special editions are getting made, so I have to believe that would be one of them. It's too iconic not to be.
@paulcleary808810 ай бұрын
Labyrinth looks fantastic. Legends 4KP is disappointing, but not unexpected. Most of use were suspecting that the internals were underpowered. Still, at $1,500 it might be a viable option for modders/ plug n' play for VPX, FP and Pinball FX. I don't know if I could build a cabinet with solenoids, buttons, artwork, glass for that price. The playfield screen at 60Hz is really the only thing holding me back.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
yeah all things considered the main display really should have been a high FPS monitor for the best overall experience, it's a shame they choose higher resolution over higher frame rate
@Johnny-Five10 ай бұрын
Did you get a chance to try Ninja Eclipse? I was wondering how it was.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Ninja Eclipse to me felt more like a home made game than something that was a polished product, and having the reduced cabinet size makes it feel like a lesser product automatically, and certainly not something justifying a premium $7K+ price tag. There was nothing to me really wrong with the gameplay, but also nothing really exciting or impressive either. I think the best thing about the machine honestly was the coinless point of sale app that he has developed. I think Turner should have been selling and marketing that at the show to operators and not trying to sell his pinball machine.
@joplinpinball91610 ай бұрын
How much was the invisiglass at expo? I looked at buying some but thought it might be cheaper at a show.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
I paid a show special price of $180 a sheet from one of the vendors there
@joplinpinball91610 ай бұрын
@@cooltoy thank you. I'll wait and get some at TPF or another show.
@moobutt10 ай бұрын
How do people watch the LCD screen while they’re playing? LCD screens are the most worthless added expense to a pinball machine. Don’t understand why people like or want them.
@crw313997 ай бұрын
can you show off the glass you purchased?
@cooltoy7 ай бұрын
Not really, I mean it’s a sheet of non reflective glass. Not something that exactly shows up on a camera really
@joeyjojojunior488610 ай бұрын
AtGames is going to drop the ball on the 4K roll out. They make big promises but I doubt they will deliver a good finished product. I’m old enough to remember playing the Hercules pinball when it was new.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
That Hercules machine was such a funny thing to attempt to play. Quirky as all get out but still a fun experience that will bring a smile to pretty much anyone's face.
@joshua.hintze10 ай бұрын
This seems empty and smaller compared to Texas pinball festival. Can anyone who has been to both confirm? I like the more empty part if true
@robertschweikl882710 ай бұрын
Yes anyone thinking about an ATGames pinball keep in mind just use it for what it delevers an seriously buy a pc to build for it an strip it back to run off of that as At games any model is so under powered
@arcadetalk10 ай бұрын
Zen has only been working with Atgames for about a month now so does not surprise me that That Addams Family table had issues. The first new game on a new platform is always the hardest one.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Very true, but if they knew they had a big public reveal and testing showcase coming up at one of the biggest pinball conventions in the world, one would have thought the emphasis would have been made to make the flagship title run flawless. Otherwise you do more harm than good with trying to impress potential new customers.
@arcadetalk10 ай бұрын
@cooltoy I imagine those layoffs at Zen did not help matters.
@ChrisAguilar10 ай бұрын
Gen currently (after the layoffs) still has 30 more employees than they did in 2020, so I doubt it's a huge factor. @@arcadetalk
@MidniteClimax10 ай бұрын
Regarding pinball adventures, the owner andrew macbain is well known for his complete lack of understanding of IP rights, and he's also known for copying lots of other things, stealing people's art, and give swaths of his website are plagerized. That's not even getting into all the other slimey stuff he's done over the years
@EQOAnostalgia10 ай бұрын
Atgames really dropped the ball. They are leaving their original fans in the dust with Zen. . . i mean wtf!? lol. I JUST got this thing last year and paid almost $900 with the shipping cost, then i find out people were scooping it up for $350 at Sams etc. . . the right solenoid popped loose about 3 months ago and rattles like a bastad! Now i find out the best tables available pretty much for Vpin, is locked on their 4k model? The things runs at like 60hz... why not 2k ad 120hz? IDK... no idea lol. But what are they smokin over there alienating their original supporters and pulling this stunt?
@DavidBrown-bs7gg8 ай бұрын
The Legends Pinball machines look homemade. The marquee needs to go, and the Addams Family topper is an embarassment
@davidhill244410 ай бұрын
Seems like Stern is the one to go with.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
They are the biggest and most successful manufacturer in the business by a large margin. Everyone else is a much much smaller scale in comparison
@davidhill244410 ай бұрын
@@cooltoy They look really nice and durable. I think they run about 5k. It's just trying to find room in my office/game room. Ha
@tyarnold408810 ай бұрын
@@davidhill24445k? What? They start around 7k and go up to 13k
@ehyouman10 ай бұрын
What a major disappointment about the atgames table, glad I didn't pre order
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
these days it typically doesn't end well for the pre-order and early adopter crowd, in most instances it's better to wait until these things have been officially sold to the public first.
@purdue9810 ай бұрын
Won’t be buying atgames take $1000 and put towards a real machine. Saw a ff pro for $5800.
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Yeah the market has softened quite a bit on used machines in the last 4 or 5 months recently, certainly some good deals out there to be had.
@gonagai135910 ай бұрын
I'm the one who said what's up outside my car window to you lol. I meant to come by and say hello to your in a normal fashion but you appeared busy and a bit tired lol. So I just let you do your thing
@cooltoy10 ай бұрын
Ha ha yeah I’m almost stopped to talk when you said hey in your car, but then I realized I was standing in the middle of oncoming traffic 😂 Hope you had a good time at the show 👍
@gonagai135910 ай бұрын
@cooltoy lol yeah man. I had a great time. I'll go next year as well.