As a paramedic I can honestly say that Zach was illegally transported to the hospital. If he was alert and oriented and didn't say he was suicidal, they couldn't take him to the hospital. A real medic would of been ecstatic that he didn't want to go to the hospital and would of had Zach sign a refusal form and been on his merry way.

Chris legitimately thought it would’ve been wise to run from the cops. He made it sound so simple by saying “you could’ve just ran between buildings and lost them”. It’s not fucking GTA, Chris!

I am an EMT in California and I can say for certain that the EMT that told Zach to stfu and proceeded to threaten him acted unlawfully and was guilty of violating multiple guidelines that outline an EMT's scope of practice, by transporting Zach to the hospital after Zach tells him that he does not want to go, he does not have insurance, that EMT is guilty of kidnapping. Then with threatening to bash your skull in, he is then guilty of assault, he could've not only lost his job for those instances but lost his license and not been allowed to work as a first responder again

Zach experienced some mild abuse of power

NYPD are the worst, the exact same thing has happened to me but they also confiscated clothes and lost my shoes/ shirt before turning me loose in the middle of bushwick with a dead cellphone and scrubs

This made me genuinely angry

I wonder if the EMT laughs at Smiling Friends, not knowing the guy who he threatened to bash his face in was the guy who made it

Zach has the best stories, I love him

One of the only reasons I listen to SleepCast is for Zach

It sucks to say. But they may have thought zack was drunker than he actually was because of his voice. Not saying what they did was in any way justifiable. But it is a possibility

"I respect cops greatly, but they did threaten to smash my head in because I was locked out of my apartment" man, that is some serious respect

Zach going through all of this and still talking about how he respects cops is insane.

*DRUNK ZACH ASSERTED DOMINANCE*

I have a good friend in the police department. He agrees that the bad reputation is a problem when confronting people but he said he can't help but feel for those who were harmed in police brutality. They started a new training course to ensure nobody gets hurt. Basically just retreat from a suspect until you can take them down without using a gun. Back yourself up to more patrols and taser the suspect. If the suspect is unarmed just keep your distance. If no threat has been found approach them and pump them for information. He also said if a police officer is being friendly you must keep your guard up. They are trying to trap you in admitting you MIGHT have commited a crime.

A lot of cops bend or outright break laws for their own convenience most of those that do also cannot accept even the tiniest idea that they are in the wrong at all.

Zach should actually animate this

I legitimately got angry listening to what they did to Zach here. The cops in Zach's case escalated the situation for NO GOOD REASON.

I work in the ER in NYS, you have no idea how common these incidents are...

im gonna draw you is something i never thought could be said as a threat

I thought it said Cory put Zach in an ambulance, and I imagined sad imagery of Cory holding a dying Zach it was the funniest thing

Same thing happened to me when I was fucked up and lucid. Was forced to go to the hospital and told everyone I had no money or insurance and wasn't allowed to leave. They tried to force me to have several Iv's which would have been hundreds more of dollars. They made me stay for several hours and tried to make stay several more. I'm still fighting the bills right now.

I want more then anything for there to be a smiling friends episode that is just Charlie going through this. And he models the EMT exactly as he remembers the guy looking

I feel my heart genuinely beating hard listening to this. I hate the types of people who if given any modicum of authority, think they are above their own rules, and get off on treating people like shit. I hope those two cops and (possible) EMT all later got fired for acting in a similar fashion. Like Zach I'm not a 'fuck the pigs' guy, but I am a 'fuck the pigs who act like pigs' guy.

I would have immediately got a lawyer and sued those cops the next day if it happened to me

Zach made the right choice not running, evading would be a felony instead of being innocent and dealing with shit people

“You’re lucky you have this.”

Every time he says back take a shot

I’m willing to bet that multiple people in the NYC local government own shares of that hospital. Tell cops to grab random drunks, hire unqualified thugs as EMTs to intimidate people into compliance, and then put them through every unnecessary test and “treatment” to rack up their medical bill.

I've been taken to the hospital for public drunkenness or some malarky once (basically I went home from a party visibly drunk, and had the rotten luck of tripping and falling on my face just when a police car went by, so it seemed like I was totally trashed), and while the policemen who "caught" me were almost friendly and had more like a "sorry man, rules are rules" kind of attitude, the EMT guy was very rude, abrasive and threatening. So yeah, there ARE medical professionals who act like total asshats.

That EMT sounded very unprofessional, stunned he was allowed to be in the back of an ambulance with that attitude

Dude this sounds like such a dumb pointless incident. I got really drunk the night before thanksgiving and was literally hands and knees vomiting on the side of a hill at 130 in the morning. An ambulance showed up and cops because i was being so loud i guess. I just remember looking up. Seeing them they asked me if i needed to go to the hospital and the cops were like telling me to get in. And i just looked up said. "Nah im fine im going home just give me a minute" vomited once more. Stood up and stumbled down the hill and spent 3 hours to walk what should have been 10 minutes because i kept stopping to give my legs a break. Literally i think i was probably more pissed than zach here but i just refused the offer and went home and thats it. Maybe it has to do with the fact that im in canada but still this seems like a bullshit scenario. Feel bad for zach

Oh yes! My favourite part of sleepy cabin, thank you soo much for the upload

I feel like this is my first time hearing this and obviously I'm late. But isn't this 100% what drunk tanks are for?

I DIED on the part where Zac wiped his ass on the bedsheets 😂

Zach taking medical bill advice from the school of sam hyde

My favorite part is when he wiped his ass on the hospital bedsheets

A lot of Cops cut so many corners and don’t know the fucking laws

Thanks dad.

The obvious lesson here, which I hope Zach absorbed, is that it doesn't matter how much you trust the police or take their side. There are officers who will wrong you and transport you against your will or worse everywhere no matter who you are.

I wonder if those guys are watching this right now

Very similar thing happened to me. Cops told me if I went with them to the hospital I wouldn't be charged a thing and a doctor would see me. I sat around for 8 hours and no doctor came, they took my blood without my permission, and then told me the doctor forgot about me but he'd be in tomorrow. So sleep tight. No doctor ever showed up to talk to me and I signed myself out of the hospital. Then a couple weeks later the hospital billed me for several thousands of dollars. They also wouldn't let me use the bathroom to pee while I was there "Because Covid".

Jesus Christ, Chris’ terrible ideas

I get angry every time I listen to this story.

This is old, but in the bay area of CA, i found our a 4 year relationship i was being cheated on while staying at her house, i walked out and went on a journey heavily drinking abd threw the bottle away in a can, and to finally calm myself; i laid myself down on a sidewalk thats not normally used, and listened to my music and look at the stars (calm neighborhood with near no lights) and after 20 mins i saq flashing lights and got quesriojes by ambukance for about 20 mins, and i was honest about my situation, and they said i could go back with them to the hospital or tell the police i was drunk in public

Zach should've drawn the EMT guy and sued the police for kidnapping him then showed the judge the drawing of the EMT guy so they can identify him so he can lose his job

This sounds like a fuckin scheme to steal Zach’s kidneys or some shit.

I had a middle* ear infection and they put 'FALL RISK' on me.

Never going to drink out. Not worth the risk.

Imagine if those people were pretending to be actual officers and had a fake ambulance.

This is the best

Zach sounds kind of like when you plug your nose.

Between this and his “tar-black shit” hospital story, Zach really should work some of this into a future Smiling Friends episode.

Had a very similar experience. The only difference was the emt in the back of the truck was decently cool. I looked at him and said “man... this blows” and all he said was “yeah... I know.”

Zach from Kansas? Beast mode

how can you still have respect for cops after an experience like that

This story was very interesting but very anger inducing

It’s genuinely scaring knowing that these people are supposed to keep the country orderly

This background music sounds eerily similar to two girls one cup

I am an EMT in NYC and I can tell you that person who said that they’ll beat you up is likely true. Many EMT have this bs that they hate drunks and homless and treat them wrong.

This was making both laugh and get extremely pissed! This is literally one of the many reasons I don't trust cops

next on sleepy cabin, zach sues the city

this has legit happened to me several times, pulled it up again cause it just happened again. its the most infuriating thing. i was five minutes away from my house; ended up in the hospital the whole day, then had to walk home several miles from 9pm to midnight.

Friendly reminder that cops are trained how to escalate and very rarely are trained how to de-escalate

Zack needs to make Pim re-live these events

Also in NYC intoxicated individuals no matter if alert and fully with it, can be taken to hospital under the discretion of of PD and EMS based on if the patient is a danger to self, such as an unsteady gait. EMS will advise the patient but if they run we can’t do anything but if PD is with us we will detain you.

Fuck kinda grateful to be living in Australia and not worry about this shit, but then we do pay a fuck ton of taxes..

This is why you should always keep a spare key in your wallet.

I understand the cops line of thinking, but if i was there i would humor him, I would call the number like what’s he gonna do there’s two cops right there

Zach 'Copkiller' Hadel

Every time Zach goes to the hospital lol

is there some kind of thing going on in the US where they force people into ambulances so that they can charge them? Seems like the only place where that would make a profit.

That is crazy

I feel bad but this is fucking hilarious

Cops are never ever looking out for you

ZACH IS FROM KANSAS!!!!!!!!

This is why you never talk to the police, ever, and you don't consent to any searches or seizures

I am crazy and the Texas police have never ever talked to me this way or ambulance and I've done much much worse. NYPD is weird.

Sleepycast boi jus wanna sleep

Myself and two friends got caught smoking weed in one of our parked cars. They tried to give the guy sitting in the driver’s seat a DUI. They tried to see if any of us were processing oil by straight up asking if we knew how to make oil. They tried to say I knowingly left out admitting to having a bowl on me after I gave up all my belongings to them. They had a dog come and check the car and they didn’t find the bowl, it was found days later by the owner of the car. They also started trying to be real friendly during our detainment; one of my friends started replying and I was worried my friend was gonna incriminate himself or all three of us. We each got slapped with a $150 possession ticket, not terrible but still was a ridiculous situation.

Any updates on this story?

Imagine needing insurance for healthcare

Poor baby

Zach is a blessing. Fucking ridiculous

Sounds like the but from Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep where Deckard is taken to a police department run by the androids. I plan on going into law enforcement, and the officers were probably either power-tripping or were given some kind of mandate by their union to arrest a certain number of people. A lot of shitty cop behavior is due to union mandates, but I don't know if that PD enforced unionization.

this story made me so genuinely angry that i had to pause several times

I appreciate that Zach and the rest of the gang still have respect for EMT's and the police after Zach's little adventure. Too often people take one example like this to justify their hatred of cops and EMT's. That said, every single cop and emt in this little story should be fired.

It’s messed up that people are defending the cops. He had a right to refuse the ambulance. Yes he was drunk and got sick but he wasn’t being violent. If they would’ve just checked with someone in the building about the address it would’ve easily been solved.

Cops are great..........

Shoulda sued the shit outta PD and Medical

From a cops perspective I imagine his voice sounds like hes coming down from a weekend long coke bender not to mention that they thought his girlfriend kicked him out the apartment adds to that story. Still fucked up what happened to him, when I was in the drunk tank they stole my DL and my debit card and kept tryna argue with me while I was drunk asf I woke up later like wow these guys go to work to argue with drunks lmao

I think he was MK'd lol

man as much as I dislike rent in Canada this sounds like a nightmare thank god I don't live there

Zachs from kansas?

WOW Zach was lucky they weren't the fucked up kinds of cops he was trying to argue with. That could have gone...badly

Does ginger-ale sober you up? Never heard of that.

I'm curious what might have happened if Zach *had* made a stink for this. Like he says, he's got quite a following, and that can go a long way; perhaps enough to at least lead to disciplinary action against that belligerent EMT. Not that there'd be any chance addressing the cops' part in this. They could have booted him up and down the street and they'd receive medals for bravery, and all stirring the pot would get you is police harassment.

at some point you just get tired of dealing with drunk people and just resort to force, cause human brains have a bad habit of escalating when under stress, and the more stressed they get the more stubborn they get. even against common sense. its one of the tragic truth of law enforcement. but its a necessity for using human beings, cause AI would do much WORSE

Wait, in america they expect you to pay for the ambulance? What a hellhole. What the hell do your taxes even pay for?

Chris suggesting Zach run from cops, I don’t know if that’s an Irish thing or like “oh it’s not me, so I can I say this” I don’t know, he doesn’t have that common sense

This exact thing has happened to me! Like so very similar, I was heading back from the 7/11 across the street from my apartment under the influence, in my PJs. That's actually all I remember, they injected me with ketamine apparently. My memory returned when I woke up the next morning in an ICU bed, presenting no symptoms. Still have $2,500 to pay and no way to pay it. USA! USA!