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Interestingly enough, Pearl Harbor in 1941 *DID* have a radar and it did track the incoming strike by the Japanese. The thing that removed its usefulness was the operators were told the contact was an incoming flight of B-17s (Which did turn up during the raid.)

In reality the Japanese would have broken off the attack once the first 150 aircraft were obliterated. They would have no idea what the Iroj Dome loadout inventory was, and they would have had to think about keeping enough aircraft alive to defend their own fleet from an obvious counterattack.

Fun little scenario, but the Japanese strike force came in two waves separated by an hour or so, and half of each wave either weren't targeted on ships,or were fighters not carrying bombs.

This would have to be considered a Japanese victory because you didn't prevent the attack. However, the loss of 200+ pilots and planes would have severely weakened the Japanese carrier fleet in later battles - of which there were many. So in the long run the Japanese victory -might be a Pyric one.

To be fair most C-RAMs have multiple "units" (guns) per "unit" (group). so each spot you had 1 C-RAM, there should be multiple

Pearl Harbor becomes the perfect example of mass drone warfare and the difficulty in defending against a mass attack.

😅 cap you need to play in the dirt more..toughn up ur immune system.. hope you feel better

Seeing Cap’s plane bounce while invincible gave me an idea, a spin off of the Thunderdome fights. Make all planes invincible and you have to push/ram/bump the other planes out of a set perimeter.

I expect the waves of zeroes to overwhelm the defenses. C-RAM: Counter Rocket, Artillery (and) Mortar 19:06 And here’s Brandon, demonstrating how to avoid being killed by either/both the C-RAM *and* the Iron Dome systems… by flying into a mountain. “The Navy congratulates your son on his achievement.”

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As a father of 4, I too have experienced all the joys of the milk fueled, boob motivated, eventually self-propelled, petri dish known as "Baby." My favorite equipped features are vomit-slinging and sleep depeprivation screaming every 4 hours. Close in third is the diaper filler in the early days known as meconium. Real poop gives me no problems at this point. You will look back on these days of sickness and exhaustion with a smile on your face. Give it 2yrs. You will beg for the days the ankle biter was mostly immobile. Remember, your wife is your teammate and this is an endurance match. Keep comm lines open, both of you need to be frank about even the smallest of complaints. Find a day once per week to go somewhere both of you can vent. Eat your veggies and enjoy the ride.

The little lump on the side of the CRAM is a GoPro for extreme KZfaq subscriptions.

Love your work Cap and team, keep it up.

To answer the question of if the Japanese would have known about Iron Dome... Probably. They wouldn't have known its exact capabilities, but their spies would have likely have had some information on it. And the locations of the launch sites would probably have been known too. Assuming, of course, this tech was developed naturally and not the result of a time traveler just handing over the units. And that has its own issues like "Why use the underlying tech only for this system, rather than mounting radar, targeting and missiles on fighters".

Torpedo attacks were a bigger thing during the actual attack. Also the hit rate of the bombs (and torps if you had them) will be WAY over at that skill setting.

I have seen the iron dome in action first hand in Ashkelon in 2012 - very effective.

This was a fun one!! Great flying as always Grim Reapers!! Super Cap, I wish you a speedy recovery!!!

It would be interesting to see this with lockheed martins 300kw laser & raytheon laser weapon system.

I am very upset and took this very seriously. C-RAM: Counter Rocket Artillery and Mortar

Thanks CAP and the boy's for another GREAT video!!!

Counter-Rocket, Artillery, Mortar = C-RAM

what about an AEGIS air defense system vs every plane japan had at the time of the bombing of pearl harbor

22:18 At this point, with 1/3rd of the Imperial Fleet down, would the Imperial Navy have ordered their planes back, not knowing if these flying telegraph poles destroying their planes were out of ammo or just getting started??? 🤔

Best video you guys have put out in weeks!

Here's hoping for a speedy recovery Cap, all the best from Toronto Ontario Canada!

Cap, can you do a timely scenario of Russian forces trying to stop a column of Wagner forces approaching Moscow?

It was so enjoyable, thank you for your work!

Six well-targeted missiles have knocked out the 4 carriers, then take out two battleships. Or, just take out the oilers trailing behind.

I can always count when you guys put a production together it going to be very well done

First-time commenter, thus far, short-term viewer. Premise: If the Pacific fleet and surrounding bases had been fully staffed and had the appropriate alert, could they have reasonably fought off the Japanese? They did have warning but the bases ignored it believeing it wasn't possible Japan would attack.

"Oh he's still alive!" *switches to camera showing him getting hammered* "I'm so proud of you" 25:15

Boy, you all have great imagination when coming up with these scenarios😁

Hey Cap, hope everything is going good with you. Covid sucks, I can't even imagine four times! Feel better!

As someone thats actually lived on Guam this was pretty fun to watch lol

Great video, guys...👍

I think it is pretty cool that you are using Apra Harbor on Guam 🇬🇺 in place of Pearl Harbor. We just had a US congressional hearing on the island last Thursday, about the planned 360-degree missile defense system. We already have a THAAD battery on Guam. They are looking to add Aegis Ashore and possibly a Patriot battery for layered coverage.

Great content as usual! How about loading a few squadrons of Blackbirds with a sidewinders and a MOAB each, but they can only launch from Miramar once the zeros start hitting Pearl? See how much damage they can inflict and how much they protect the harbour??(yes, I know they don’t have hard points, but the joy…!?!?)

What tipped the server was a significant number of Japanese planes were now completing their bombing run and heading for home rather than being destroyed.

Hope you feel better soon. Fun video.

There’s no Midway with that Japanese loss of airmen. That’s the cream of their air-arm that just got deleted.

The official simba fan club would like to note as much as cap complains about having not setup things in the sim because he is ill, we still get a feature length video to enjoy. Keep Cracking on, m8! TYFYS

This is my first comment ever on this Channel. You guys are simply geniuses think of things that I would never think of contemplating what would happen

Regarding the Iron Dome launchers. When you zoom in on the face of a launcher, it is very obvious that the silver square is unfired, and the gold color slots have been fired. At 26:10 you zoomed in on one that has only a silver square in the upper left, all the rest are gold. It fired right after you zoomed out I think. You zoomed in on one at 26:43 that is empty with all gold. I also thank they fired from bottom to top. Upper left looking face on, should always be the last to fire. The trick is to zoom in on the face of the launcher at full screen, to be able to easily see the difference.

Awesome video, only small issue is that Pearl Harbor happened 7.Dec.41, not 7.June.41. Other than that awesome video again!

B-52H gunner here. M61-A1 in the 52 is equivalent to Navy CWIZ, since we stole it from them. 😁😅🤣 In ground tests against Firebee drones, I had been told, a unit had killed a drone with a THREE round burst. In trainers we were pitted against fighters and missiles and had to destroy both. With a pitifully small ammo can. I always exited the trainer bathed in sweat and nerves shattered. Mandatory trip to the Airman's Club for multiple Rum and Cokes to come down from the combat jitters. But my crew did survive on a lot of those make-believe missions. This was in the late 70s. Also they had tested me on reflexes or reflexive responses. At 19 I had 4/10 of a second. Medium to high for their purposes. I still died in those scenarios. But not all of the times. Those were also back in the days of CRT displays and vacuum tube-based transmitters. I will now go back to the video from 8:46 and see how well the grandchildren of my old system fared.

'pure raw skill' proceeds to get absolutely destroyed

Covid AGAIN, Cap? Get better soon. BZ Team, beautiful explosions video!

Did you know that C-ram can shoot down ordinance, right? It very well might have fused only be shot down by a C-ram.

The Japanese casualty rate of killed pilots was much higher here,this would have had a bigger effect in the next battle than in real life.✌️❤️🇬🇧

The chance that ww2 pilots would know how to dodge missiles is basically zero. The anime zipang did a good job illustrating this when the mirai (the main ship of the anime) engages the USS wasp and it's planes. Most of the wasp's air wing got annihilated before they could even comprehend what was about to happen. Just the sea sparrows and the Phalanx CIWS the ship used were enough to traumatize one of the surviving pilots so badly he could barely hold himself together while describing the ship to his superiors.

A fun anti ship mission might be to do the American carrier raids on Japanese bases. It was a part of the Island hopping strategy. Rabaul Harbor or Truk Atoll would be fun to recreate with different fighter generations

You're mistaking the meaning of "PK ratio", it isn't about having 200 missiles kill 200 planes, it's the probability of any missile hitting it's target, and as we saw in the vid, some planes were fired on with multiple missiles and some were hit more than once, and others were being accurately tracked but the plane hit the ground before the missile hit the plane. The fact it still had an 80% or so kill ratio even with occurrences where some planes were targeted by multiple missiles speaks to a very high PK ratio.

This reminds me of the Books from John Birmingham. About a modern nato Fleet arriving in the past just before the battle of Midway. If you are a Reader and like this kind of stuff I highly recommend it. First Book is Named "weapons of Choice"

The next simulation would be about the elephant in the room...can Wagner take over Moscow

if something like this happened, they would be out of the war, they've lost most of their experienced pilots

Cool concept this one

I wonder why the evil robotic cows have been so silent lately? Prepping for a counter offensive???😂😂😂😂

See the best part of this for me is that it wouldn’t have been a surprise. The radar of either system would be able to tell you exactly WHAT is flying in. And you’d be able to see that it’s Japanese Zeroes. So now you have to dodge Iron Dome and CWIS, but the ships would be active, aircraft would be active, ground AA would be active. Even if nothing else, the radar and command centers would prove to tip the edge HEAVILY in the US favor.

@10:06 that's where they mount the invisible selfie stick, so that you can have the POV camera. ;)

The things on the side of the missiles are like proximity sensors and also help the missile stay locked on to the target.

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C-RAM: counter rocket, artillery and mortar

"its like the fourth of july up there 😀" first time i laughed so hard my lungs started hurting

CIWS is a 20mm Gatling Gun. Sea RAM is a Rolling Airframe Missiles System, with 21 Missiles per launcher.

Grim Reapers waiting for the great CH to make a Sa'ar 4.5 and 5 or even 6 i believe in him and he have the talent to do so!

for your sickness look up the , i think its called the zalenko prototocol or something like that.

try garlic oil in the ears from capsules . keeps the sinuses clear and helps you breath .

Damn Cap, hope you feel better soon! I wonder when DCS will get the laser option for iron dome (iron laser I think?)

I don’t think the humans can take out any ships, maybe make some damage. But when all the computer players come in to play it will be mayhem. The defenses won’t be enough.

22:36 I have heard a 5 inch rocket take off from a few hundred meters. It sounded like an F-16 flyover with full afterburner.

Damn Cap.....hope you feel better!

Cap, I feel you with GR baby's farts. Our second daughter, well, we used to call her 'rumblebottom' or 'speed rumbler' (after the video game) for the amount and volume of gas she'd rumble through her diaper. It was absolutely unreal, and it was worse the time when she was about a year and change old, the wife and eldest daughter were out, and I cooked myself up a mass of lamb vindaloo and rice for dinner. Well, Rumblebottom didn't want her bowl of veggie goo, she wanted daddy's curry! And I stupidly gave her a little bowl. She loved it, double-fisting it in until the heat hit....she turned cherry red and SCREAMED! I got her calmed down with some milk and she started fisting in the curry again! repeat a few times, and when the wife got home she told me that I was on diaper duty. And did I ever regret it. Overflowed with poo on both sides, gas like you wouldn't believe, etc. etc. Not to be forgotten. So in closing, do not give GR baby spicy Indian food! (Though Exidy's girl loves it to this day.)

Would now be a bad time to point out the IJN didn't have any spitfires or FW-190s? Silly nitpick jokes aside, that was a riot to watch. Thanks for the vid!

Get well soon Cap. Any chance you could do a re match of a Chinese destroyer flotilla vs US carrier group but with type 55s?

i wonder how the german cram system mantis would do in a situation like this

One issue with all videos regarding propeller driven aircraft is that our modern missiles don't work very well against them, the IR signature is too small compared to jet engine driven aircraft and propellers do wonky things with radar(i can't remember the name of the effect atm) , helicopter reflect radar all over hell's half acre. So they likelyhood of radar and IR guided missiles hitting their targets is significantly reduced.

C-RAM = Counter Rocket, Artillery, and Morter.

I want to see you hit all carriers as they are starting to launch with anti ship missiles and see how many planes get up.

Top marks to the Human pilots for getting within view of let alone hitting the ships. Especially in pedantically modeled aircraft where the controls are in literal German :\

I would love to see somethign like this, but with Russian Mobile Weapons, something really diverse like Tors, Osas, Strellas and Tunguskas.. posssibly some old shilka's as well, spread around the port. If you say a battery is 6 launchers and you have two batteries of each linked together? I know it will probably the same result, probably faster due to lower number of missiles, but i think it could still be fun.

Wonderful

One reason I think this was unrealistic has to do with the damage models of the ships. Remember, the planes bombing the ships were all but uncontested and only managed to sink 12 ships. It's safe to say the few hits that the planes were able to land after Iron dome ran out of ammo. Wouldn't have sunk the ships they hit. We have to remember some of the ships at Pearl Harbor took multiple direct hits without sinking. Also, to add to this, it was a complete surprise. But the major reason this isn't realistic is the planes only targeting the ships. There may have been 353 planes on the air raid, but not all bombed the harbor. You had planes that were bombing other targets like the airfields. You had fighters patrolling to help protect the bombers. Among many other tasks. So, at the very most, you would have had 275-300 bombers. That only leaves 115-140 planes after Iron dome shot down well over half at 160. Do we really believe that if the Japanese lost well over half of their bomber aircraft before even making a hit on Target, they wouldn't have turned and ran? Also, the air defense systems were not positioned in the proper layered positions. Since they were so close to the ships, it allowed for the "lob attack". That wouldn't have worked at all if they had been properly positioned. The Iron dome wouldn't have been just bunched into one cluster. It would have been placed in several spots around the harbor in a layered layout used in NATO air defense doctrine. If they had been spread out in smaller groups as a layered total air defense, it would have increased its efficacy and kill percentage. Lastly, if they had only bombed the harbor using all 353 planes as bombers. Then, in minutes, the US would have had all their fighters in the air picking off unprotected weighed down fighter bombers. A massive minority of the bombers would have been picked off before they even got within range of the Iron dome. But even if you kept the basic premise the same, to test the limits of the Iron dome and CRam in DCS. First, you have to at least get a realistic figure of bomber aircraft that bombed the harbor. Second, you have to research what kind of damage these ships took before sinking and adjust the damage model. Lastly, reset the air defense systems in the correct layered positions to give them a much more realistic efficacy.

Pearl Harbor a day before the attack had an air raid drill but on the day of everything for defense had been locked up.

The Iron Dome missile does have a small interdigitated "wing" aft of the canards (at least as far as I can see in Wikipedia). That wing appears to be rectangular in planform with a diamond wedge airfoil (supersonic airfoil), which is an aerodynamic shape. That doesn't seem to match what DCS was showing, which looked like a flat surface perpendicular to the direction of flight, which, as you said, would not be very aerodynamic.

Would love to see C-Ram vs the kind of mass formations the IJN used. Would the CRAM/Patriot been able to deal with saturation attacks?

@26:05 genius for the streaming rate, but what was the size of a squadron or a wing in the japanese air forces at the time? That would have been more realistic, besides the fact that they would have tried to come in as a saturating wave anyway

Hell yes, just accepting the early warning could have made a 55 to 65 % positive difference.

Fourth time? I hope you get better soon! I've been lucky and haven't even caught covid yet...or maybe I did and I'm one of those who doesn't get any symptoms.

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For the sake of argument... once these magic demon rockets cut into the first wave pretty deeply the whole operation would have been aborted. thus saving Pearl before C-RAM even got switched on.

CIWS IS (close in weapons system), CIWS is the one on ships to protect ships. C-RAM IS (Counter, rocket, artillery, mortar) and that is the land based system usually on a truck supported by a air to air missile platform.

Phalanx can be out of bullets in less than one minute if they fire constantly.

C-RAM = Counter-Rocket, Artillery, Mortar

What is 6.9? A good thing ruined by a period.

Are there any plans to model other Israeli SAMs? Like the Arrow, David's Sling, Barak, Barak 8, SPYDER (With Python 5 or Derby)

What would an IJN pilot have thought? "Fugu this shiitake," would be my guess.

Damn Cap, hang in there. We need to take donations and buy the guy a boy in a bubble setup.

Is Djibouti included in any of the dcs maps? All of the bases in close proximity would give lots of opportunities for scenarios. Also, the jokes pretty much write themselves.

This is the silliest scenario ever!