Could Strategic Bombers Be Used For CHEAP Precision Stand-Off Mass Strike? (WarGames 140)

Could Strategic Bombers Be Used For CHEAP Precision Stand-Off Mass Strike? (WarGames 140) | DCS

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We investigate whether large ageing US strategic bombers can be used to deliver cheap stand-off precision strike missions.
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@parmvirgrewal6145 Жыл бұрын

Keep up the awesome work man. Can you do a video where the Patriots system has to defend against hypersonics? I know what will happen in real life I'm just curious what will happen in the sim. Thanks 👍

@Firedad376 Жыл бұрын

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@grimreapers Жыл бұрын

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@Mark-xv5lb Жыл бұрын

@@grimreapers What scenario would show how Ukraine could best use 40 F-18s? Sounds like US greenlighted Australia transferring them. No idea what model they are.

@stupidburp Жыл бұрын

Best use of Hornets or Super Hornets would be dispersed in the East and South of Ukraine, operating from rough, damaged, or austere airfields with their reinforced frames and strong gear and side intakes. Upgrade Hornets with Super Hornet radar as the USMC did. Missions would be a combination of air to air and air to ground plus eventually some patrols over the Black Sea. Crimean unsinkable aircraft carrier in the future. In the near term they would be mostly used as wild weasels to destroy remaining Russian air defenses inside Ukraine. HARM + MALD + JASSM + JDAM trucks with enough AMRAAM and AIM-9 to keep flankers mostly inside Russia.

@parmvirgrewal6145 Жыл бұрын

@@grimreapers how'd u fucking do that... Must be a time traveler it's the only explanation 😂

@Echowhiskeyone Жыл бұрын

"Somebody did a thing." It would not be a GR mission without somebody doing a thing.

@grimreapers Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@dexlab7539 Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂…perfect GR ending

@RedTSquared Жыл бұрын

GR Videos... Came for the Mission, Stayed for "Did A Things"! Never change GR, never change!

@erikerice9068 Жыл бұрын

I wonder how many AIM-54'S could the B-1R carry?

@pogo1140 Жыл бұрын

None, because they don't have the radar

@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын

Lol about as many AIM-260's they put on it, perhaps a few less ;)

@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын

@@pogo1140 lmao the B-1R was a concept concentrated on air-air engagement! So what are you talking about?? Just didn't kno? Or are you talking about Phoenix missile bc The AIM-54C should absolutely work!👍

@exAirMover Жыл бұрын

Mod a B-1R with a super AESA Radar. It's got a large nose that could probably accommodate it. I recall a series of books by Dale Brown Inc. Flight of the Old Dog, which introduced the concept of highly modded Battleship Bombers. A B-2 modded to launch AIM-260 (?) by data link could provide large area Air Dominance, whilst being undectable

@stupidburp Жыл бұрын

B-1B already has been upgraded with SABR AESA radar. Essentially a super sized version of the radar in newest F-16s. Should be capable of supporting new AIM-54 variants if they reentered production. B-1R would likely have the same radar or better if built. Any of the old phoenix missiles used on F-14 are probably expired by now. Currently I think that Iran is the only country producing them, in their local copied variants.

@meganjarrod Жыл бұрын

Matrix showing the ‘older and wiser’ method of coming in to land, stand clear of GR on final approach 😂

@bloodtypexneg Жыл бұрын

I love the B-ONE! Its my dads plane. He was a wind tunnel technician with Rockwell International when the B was being tested for deployment. I have a picture of my dad working on a scale model as they were testing supersonic airflow over the open bomb bay. I also have several operation manuals for some of the testing as well as a general manual for the wind tunnel. The B-ONE will always have a place in my heart!

@johnvtedder87 Жыл бұрын

Please give your dad a fist bump from me cause the B1 is one of the coolest planes to cruise the skies. I can't even imagine how much fun it was to design! He probably has tons of wild stories about the design progression. 👍👍

@bloodtypexneg Жыл бұрын

I wish I could ask him. He sadly passed away in 2009.

@dexlab7539 Жыл бұрын

Thx - I was wondering why they called it that. B-1 (one)

@CyrrusNL Жыл бұрын

The B1 has always been a favorite aircraft of mine. It's such a sleek, menacing-looking airframe. The Tu-160 gives me the same vibes by the way.

@dexlab7539 Жыл бұрын

Me too…but TU-160 is still my fav

@theoneneo5024 Жыл бұрын

I've watched a lot of these videos but for some reason this was one of the most entertaining. Good job team!

@skibum1610 Жыл бұрын

I like the scenarios because it kinda of gives us a perspective where everything is perfect. Real life scenario there are variables like unmanned, untrained, un maintained air defenses, morale, etc.

@exAirMover Жыл бұрын

Excellent co-ordination and team work there guys 👍🙂

@gosborg Жыл бұрын

Wow! A complete success. How un-GR of you, but in a very refreshing way.

@dobster5819 6 ай бұрын

Beautiful video Cap, many thanks.

@henrygibson9613 Жыл бұрын

Love multi task mission strikes, some specific near peers one would be very interesting.

@TheWeatherbuff Жыл бұрын

Thank you, CAP & Reapers Crew. I so much look forward to your daily videos, (subscriber and donator).

@jrizos06 Жыл бұрын

Seconds after Cap's great flyby at 32:20 and the stream of BONE comments, Matrix makes one the best unintentional follow ons - " F-16 pilots, you see the white stuff coming off the wingtips?" classic GR, can't script that..

@dexlab7539 Жыл бұрын

Haha yup, Matrix didn’t seem to catch that 😂

@judgehelbigii3885 Жыл бұрын

Someone was flying with a VMFAT-101 skin F-18! I was at that squadron for 2 years. That’s awesome! Thanks for including it.

@shanearchibald9477 Жыл бұрын

I remember watching the show Dogfights and they theorized that in the future a plane such as a B1B Lancer would be loaded with BVR missles and stealth jet would fly point and use data link to mass lob missles. Ive always loved the B1B design.

@statickevin Жыл бұрын

GR did a couple videos on this concept -- look up Grim Reapers B-1R

@eyxom Жыл бұрын

"Uh oh, uh oh, uh oh" 😂😂 Well done, boys. Great video!

@darrellseike3185 Жыл бұрын

I love it when a plan comes together!!!

@380Scania Жыл бұрын

Enjoyed that one Cap

@kenhelmers2603 Жыл бұрын

Cool little mission! and a GR ending LOL

@timblack6422 Жыл бұрын

Well done!🎉

@geekpoet7443 Жыл бұрын

GR idea - WW2 Germany has small group of heavy bombers defended by me-262 trying to attack various locations in England.

@henrygibson9613 Жыл бұрын

I see the B1s occasionally in UK now, very very nice!

@saintuk70 Жыл бұрын

Loving the footage coming from RAF Fairford at the moment with the 4 B-1's visiting. They are just lovely 'craft, despite being old.

@choctaw2sticks193 Жыл бұрын

love these videos, you guys are great . . . 👍

@roytelling6540 Жыл бұрын

I was half way down the runway at the Farnborough Airshow 2008 and seen the B1B Lancer doing a fly by WoW. I did take my headphones off to listen to it ROAR

@SeanPower-yr9rh Жыл бұрын

Thats a mouthful mate.

@imellor711 Жыл бұрын

Great vid cap, wouldn't it be nice if multi crew and flyiable bombers like the Lancaster, Hinckle, Vulcan, backfires, F111 and B1 come into DCS.

@hernerweisenberg7052 Жыл бұрын

Hello valued Super Cap and GR, I hope you are doing wonderfully well :)

@nathanellis3111 Жыл бұрын

Had to comment on a post to maybe get money. It was what do you eat and watch at midnight. GR and Cap while eating apples and oranges

@nathanielrose6782 Жыл бұрын

I got to see one of these in flight when my unit was at Fort Polk for training, I still maintain that the B-1 is the LOUDEST aircraft I've ever heard.

@the_beef4762 Жыл бұрын

Like these that have multi objectives inter linked more than the standard 1 bone vs whatever. More 'realistic' scenario. Do more like these with prepping a target for an air to ground strike. Great video!

@bartekpabian4869 Жыл бұрын

Love the polish raven paint scheme

@ourmaninjapan16 Жыл бұрын

So this concept is pretty much Dale Brown's concept from 30 years ago. Updated B52s with massive amounts of precision standoff weaponry acting as bomb trucks to smash huge numbers of targets.

@AJPMUSIC_OFFICIAL Жыл бұрын

Love the videos. Out of interest how do you select which 10% you end up doing? The most interesting or the most viable to test? I'm always amazed with the amount of effort that goes into these. My favourite was the Tomcat vampire carried scenario quite a while back, big red storm rising nostalgia from that one. Cheers guys!

@superflyguy4488 Жыл бұрын

Had a nightime show of force from a B1B in Helmand, it was deffo lower that they initially told the JTAC, man that thing in full reheat close overhead is loud.

@mark97199 Жыл бұрын

The USAF has paired JDAM-ER with quickstrike naval mine fuses. Precision, standoff, ariel mine laying, much like what you've done here. The big difference is the defenses. I wonder how this would go against modern SAM and if the US/Taiwan could use them to mine Chinese ports in the event of an invasion

@markewilliams4667 7 ай бұрын

Excellent!!!

@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын

Yo Cap! Please run a scenario with the boy's using both F-15E's and A-10C's!🙏👍

@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын

A-10 Thunderbolt II, SU-25 Frogfoot, MB-339 Aermacchi, Super Tucano, OV-10 Bronco, and Pucara VS Warbirds!🙏👍

@EfEmDee Жыл бұрын

Not demonetized until @32:30 Well done!! 😅

@grimreapers Жыл бұрын

thx

@SeedOfElijah Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that was a beautiful shot of the B-1 after takeoff, and still looks like a new machine.

@SGTJackMorgan Жыл бұрын

ED, give us an official B-1 module! Awesome video and great work to Cap and the Boys!

@bigcountry5045 Жыл бұрын

i LOVE seeing b-1s form my home town of Abilene TEXAS ( DYESS AIRFORCE BASE ) in game .... i believe we have some over in the U.K. at the moment !!!!!

@Mendezmaybe Жыл бұрын

Great stuff Bone-R for the win

@jasonosmond6896 Жыл бұрын

Matrix, the speculation is that the F-16As for Ukraine will come from the Netherlands, Denmark, and Norway, to be refurbished by Belgium. Poland doesn't want to give theirs up until they have F-35. and Romania doesn't have *any* replacements due for their F-16s (in fact they just bought most of Norway's fleet).

@dexlab7539 Жыл бұрын

Exactly - everyone will only give up their F16s if they get new F35 (for free ??)

@JasonEllBowling Жыл бұрын

My thought during the takeoff roll: "I wonder if DCS simulates wake turbulence..."

@s4ss.m8 Жыл бұрын

:F16 **absolutely struggling to overtake** :B1R **litterally just cruising**

@JohnDoe_Poland Жыл бұрын

That F16 scheme is just wow

@timallison8560 Жыл бұрын

great mission!

@Fred_Lougee Жыл бұрын

Ending a mission where everything goes perfect with a mid-air. Just what I have come to expect from the Reapers. Unironic Bravo Zulu, guys.

@dryphtyr Жыл бұрын

I love watching Cap chase big B-ONE R's

@kdaltex Жыл бұрын

There's a new modification to the Rapid Dragon program that attaches a rocket booster to a carrier that contains JDAMs to give them a tremendous boost in speed and glide range. After boosting the bombs release from the carrier and glide to preset targets. Could you make a version in DCS? It'll allow longer range cheaper strike capability. Supposedly it triples the glide range to 120NM It's essentially a bomb shotgun

@nazarsalama7503 Жыл бұрын

video Idea: replicate the 1991 invasion of iraq but With DCS AI (kinda like your naval battles) but make it so there is ground and air combat.

@yuuzyerbrejn9603 Жыл бұрын

Landing with a B-One-R is HARD! It's STIFF feeling and you have to be careful of sudden EJECTION. But it is a very SATISFYING climax of emission, I mean a mission.

@morrielarsen Жыл бұрын

I was working at a warehouse in downtown Phoenix just west of Sky Harbor International Airport in the early 2000s when a B-1B took off with full afterburners. It set off every car alarm in a five mile radius. Alarmingly loud.

@-Hardstyle- Жыл бұрын

Sweet take off boys!

@AusExplorer Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see how the F-111c [Australian version] would perform if you bring it up to the spec that was planned before they were scrapped. I've heard™ that with the engines it would have got [and that one was tested with, from what I'm told] that they no longer knew what the thrust-based max top speed was because the new limit was thermal from friction. [around mach 3 at high alt.]

@SeanPower-yr9rh Жыл бұрын

Starfighters are just dangerous..

@gail_blue Жыл бұрын

Hmm... I really want them to do one of my requests... "Could MISSILE hit PLANE?"

@loonhauler Жыл бұрын

These videos are quite entertaining. Having not done anything on flight simulator programs, how much time would you recommend learning how to fly somewhere else before even trying out the DCS world?

@splatoonistproductions5345 Жыл бұрын

Can’t wait to see those type 26 frigates in action, could even lead to possible joint operation scenarios between the uk, Australia and Canada in areas like the pacific, that’d be pretty neat

@tom23rd Жыл бұрын

Crazy when it all goes to plan, lol 🎉🎉🎉

@alisilcox6036 Жыл бұрын

Cap, would you consider a match in which teams of players form a "nation" and are given a budget, then allowed to procure whatever weapons they like within the budget and then battle it out? It would be interesting to see what missiles, aircraft and air defences players would choose on a "fantasy" team... Or if any of them would choose to spam hundreds of cheap stuff instead. Perhaps let them chat (and lie, mislead) about their choices beforehand and then only unveil the choices when the match is set up, or when they encounter it...

@jasonosmond6896 Жыл бұрын

Mission Brief: Use an *aging* USAF bomber to perform a standoff strike. Supercap: I'll use a super-high performance variant of the B-1B that never existed. Science!

@darthgamer2014 Жыл бұрын

7:50 I didn't know that full air to air mode involved removing the joystick. 😂

@giannamolinari3065 Жыл бұрын

32:22 that was cool tho!

@subjectc7505 Жыл бұрын

I didn't know the bone was falling apart.

@Kaelland Жыл бұрын

I understand there is a natural preference for full fidelity planes, but when you're doing a mission where you need to carry a bunch of AMRAAMs while also carrying enough fuel to keep up with a B-1 bomber, I don't get why you don't use the F-15C. F-15C carries almost as much fuel with no bags as an F-16 does with 3 bags. Just adding the center bag to an F-15C gives it almost 3,500 pounds more fuel than a fully laden F-16, and it can tote a couple more AMRAAMs, too. Just seems like a better choice when the mission is air-to-air.

@rerd6614 Жыл бұрын

B1 is nice. Actually I like the Vulcans and Aaardvarks more. The main reason being, that they lack this big boxy air intakes. They ruin the lines of the B1. 36:49 I was looking at the formation and was thinking about the XB-70 Valkyrie accident and guess what... But boner kept flying.

@bruzer75 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see if you guys could build/model a B-58.

@dexlab7539 Жыл бұрын

B58 is very sexy

@petertyson4022 Жыл бұрын

Doing so well . Tell the end. Almost perfect. Lol👍😁

@bluemen9647 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see the Raptors vs the SU-35, but instead of having the same number of aircraft, I think it would be a great experiment to match each sides price. So the stealthy US fighters vs. the Russian 4th gen fighters that are equivalent in price.

@sargisdrake Жыл бұрын

Damn, I would love the see the point of view of the other pilots when Cap zoomed between the F-18, F16 and the B1 at almost mach 2...

@ljk7182 Жыл бұрын

Good and enlightenment entertainment and lots of funny humor is what I like.👍 Can you please do a video about those brave men who flew the flying fortress of B-24 to destroy Hitler's oil supply in Ploesti, Romania? They flew over the Transylvanian Alps and came in on very low altitude to boom boom. But the germans had a very fortified airdefence of anti-air guns and barrage balloons et.c. It was a carnage. Source: Fortress ploesti:The campaign to destroy Hitler's oil supply by Jay A. Stout.

@grmatrix6358 Жыл бұрын

That would require something like an 18 hour Wargame, a B-24 mod and representative terraim map.

@ljk7182 Жыл бұрын

@@grmatrix6358 Or you could summon it up with less plane and keep it small but accurate.

@gunzelloharris3348 Жыл бұрын

Tht wuz coolbeanz!!

@Valorius Жыл бұрын

A real Mk84 2000lb bomb actually weighs 2700lb (+ JDAM kit). It's amazing that such a simple (yet huge) detail has been overlooked by DCS.

@HandFromCoffin Жыл бұрын

The B1 is what I heard one designer say "if it looks right it is right". I have to say that mostly holds for aircraft. If you knew nothing about how the aircraft actually preformed you could come really close just by how "right" it looks.

@waynesworldofsci-tech Жыл бұрын

Gotta try this against CH’s new systems. My guess is there’d be no chance against modern air defence.

@badllama8090 Жыл бұрын

"Nice day out" 😂👏👌👍🤙🖖🤘✌🍻

@mixit2413 Жыл бұрын

I know this is probably impossible but concord converted to a bomber or very big missile truck would be interesting

@jmtpolitico80 Жыл бұрын

Good Mission guy's!

@brianvanhedel Жыл бұрын

i love the f16, used to be the only fighter in our airforce, we do have some f35s now, but the f16 is just beautifull, our f16s are also together with the f16s from the usa are the most modern. I am dutch btw. love your videos, wish I had a pc with dcs etc

@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын

When BA retired Concorde I said the MoD should have bought them up and turned them into stand-off weapons delivery platforms. No fighter will catch something capable of mach 2 for hours on end unless they get really lucky with the intercept.

@rmp5s Жыл бұрын

I was thinking, "you should never put a plane below you...that is how collisions happ...", then you collided. lol

@JanMagnusson72 Жыл бұрын

Even if an S-300 or S-400 can shoot down a JDAM-ER, the unit cost I can find for the JDAM-ER or $35k. The SAM missiles that would be used to take them out maybe up to 100x more. That is, if the opponent fires such missiles at a JDAM-ER, you win, regardless of if you hit your target or not. Quantity can have a quality all on it's own.

@ratroute8238 Жыл бұрын

I was looking for this post, win win for the good guys...

@JaneCobbsHat Жыл бұрын

Love the Polish livery on the F-16.

@Fix_Bayonets Жыл бұрын

Have you guys looked at modeling the "quicksink" GBU-31?

@nigeldepledge3790 Жыл бұрын

The BoneR has got to be my favourite plane out of all the GR videos . . .

@aland7236 Жыл бұрын

Proposal for nation names, Narnia and Mordor.

@joshwindom7882 Жыл бұрын

I was a Bone maintainer and can attest to the nightmare of maintaining it.

@HauntedXXXPancake Жыл бұрын

32:46 - The white stuff coming of the end off the bone-r ? 🤔

@YT-mn4eq Жыл бұрын

Jdams could be great against s400s. Just the cost ratio alone is amazing. Drain the sam network and dare them not to fire.

@atomicnick99 Жыл бұрын

They are an absolute nightmare as a maintainer, but they fly pretty well

@nmandmc1 Жыл бұрын

Was that a JANET airlines at 36:58???

@a24396 Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see this with the B-1 shooting SDBs instead of JDAMS. Apparently they can bring 144 of the things... Seems a lot easier to saturate the defense with that many glide bombs...

@Blue2swing Жыл бұрын

Thanks for these videos, they're great. Do you guys ever take into account GPS Jamming that seems to be effecting the JDAM's in Ukraine?

@tadficuscactus Жыл бұрын

What about the Tu-160 at mach 2, at 40,000 ft, droping FAB guided bombes?

@christospapantonakis5959 Жыл бұрын

Sorry if asked before, where can we find the JDAM-ER to use it in our own missions?

@nathanshoaf5452 Жыл бұрын

When’s the next naval battles?

@daleferrier3050 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if these cheaper JDAMs could be used in a first wave to deplete modern opposing SAM sites before the more expensive, more sophisticated modern stuff is used to actually strike the targets. Any older ones that do get through are a bonus I suppose. I only say this because from what I have observed from previous scenarios, most missiles (and aircraft for that matter) are blocked early on until through attrition, the opposition end up running short on their defensive missiles. Just a thought...