These battles just keep getting better and better.

25:10 the amount of missiles in the air is insane. Props to the DCS engine for being able to handle this kind of air-to-air carnage without inflicting time dialation or anything like that. Outstanding scrap so far!

Here's hoping that such a scenario won't be happening anytime soon. Hopefully.

So, after watching the results of the anti-ship missiles, yes I understand it didn't work in multiplayer and the targeting needs work per the singeplayer test, but I think it's essentially a draw if you factor in some more real-world attributes. For example, once the Chinese threat was gone from their nearby jets/A-to-A missiles, all remaining friendly jets in the air would have been coached and coordinated onto the incoming anti-ship missiles. Per Violet and Matrix, the AIM-260s lock onto the missiles quite well. Add in a real-world data link, expert professional pilots, and dozens of command and control personnel to assign targets (vectors/altitude/deconfliction) plus the SM-2/SM-6 net, SeaRAM, and CWIS, I think there's a very good chance the missiles don't make it through. Finally, a somewhat minor note but it would presumably play a difference in defending this massive anti-ship missile attack. If the USS America is there (and the entire 7th fleet in general), then there should also be the four additional supporting amphibious ships (LSD and LPD) that travel with the LHA/LHD flagship: the USS New Orleans (LPD-18), USS Green Bay (LPD-20), USS Rushmore (LSD-47), and USS Ashland (LSD-48). I only mention them as they collectively have an additional 168 (!) missiles to assist in short-range defense with the SM-2 network due to each ship carrying two SeaRAM weapon systems (8 x 21-round RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missiles in total). Each SeaRAM missile has a reported range of 10 km, so they should have time to see the coming and fire before impact, but it would be close. It also depends on the whole scenario, but I'm assuming they would travel with their assigned Marine Expeditionary Unit that's typically onboard as long as they're sailing in support of the USS America, and either be caught unexpectedly within this naval batal, or be on patrol without carrying the USMC infantry/their equipment due to no planned littoral invasion plans. : )

Make a battle in the city with tanks helicopters and planes please please

I just came across your channel and wow - this is super fascinating to watch and love your passion while narrating. Subscribed and sharing for sure!

I can’t wait to see this scenario develop further, the Taiwan campaign was an awesome set of videos!

The model for struck ships is amazing!! Keep up the amazing work!

Luv these videos...keep up the great work

That simulation was so, so impressive. I'm going to join your patreon right now.

Wow. Confirmation that the YJ21 and other hypersonic anti ship missiles are in the works is exciting. I hope you get DF17s and Zircons too.

Now all thats needed is to update the SM-2 family of missiles in game. IIRC the DCs still uses a fairly old version of the SM-2. Should be using a mix of SM-6 (150 mi range), SM2 SM-2ER Block IVA, and RIM-162 for air defense. Edit: Also worth noting that DCS seems to count the public fire rate for 1 VLS cell pack as the fire rate for the whole ship. So actual launch rates should be 6X - 8X depending on what block of Burke or if its a Ticonderoga.

I can't wait to see the SM-3/SM-6 missiles to be added to DCS

THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR LETS GOO

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This just keeps getting better and better.

Even with this bug with the YJ-12 it is still turned out to a HUGE BOOMBOOM. :D Love this videos mate. Its just makes my day better. Not just because of boomboom but because how interesting these things. I love this military stuff. From weapons to logistics. Everything about military stuff. Love it! Love to watch it after a hard working day! Keep up the good work mate! You got the Meteors working, you got the LARSM working, you got the PL-15 working, you got the Russian asstets wroking with the hypersonic missiles, everything. Go, and make a USA/UK vs Chinese/Russian Carrier Strike Group 2025 fight! Only stuff is that try to launch the YJ-12 from AI J-15 jets or from Human anti ship jets. Maybe that will sort the problem out. If not, use the old YJ-12 and the Russian Anti Ship missiles together!

Your wargame series are great thanks

Nicely Done, I can only guess how much production time that took... Thx GR

My step father works for a defense contractor here in San Diego that does this exact thing (war gaming scenarios) and PRoC is their focus, His take is that you guys are using US standards for their weapons systems which is a good thing because its worst case scenario (that's what they do also so they plan accordingly and this is how the defense industry plans new systems).

I absolutely love what you have done with the wargames series, such an improvement from the taiwan games.

Waking up this morning to a massive battle, hell yah!!

Love all the ways you try to fix weapons capable and , all the military technology of military assets involved

The F-15s in Okinawa are being permanently replaced with F-22s in the near future, announced last week I believe.

Great battle - but I would doubt the US Awacs would ever come under threat as IRL it would have guided assets to take out the threat as a priority.

Awesome video 😎

Love the new(ish) lose counter you use now

It would be very interesting to estimate the total value of the assets deployed and losses. Also as role play it could be interesting to let the players chose what assets to deploy, which would be limited to the actual 7th fleet on the US side but the Chinese side gets to pick from their vast inventory. In this "battle" it does not make much sense to use the J10s for example, if the targets are ships simply max out on anti-ship bombers. H6-J and H6-K can carry 6 or 7 YJ-12 IIRC, so one regiment can launch 100 missiles. Estimated cost of a YJ-12 is IIRC less than $2M, so 100 missiles match the cost of a single US destroyer. I'd love to see what the fleet can do against say 800 missiles. Add a few J20 only for cover or recon if you want. 😉

"I wish you all well,....kind've" 🙄

I have become obsessed with these videos

Been waiting for this.

Hey Cap, would love to see this revisited with all of the updates and new assets that have been made lately!

17:28 "My social credit score is rising faster than my altitude" LOL!! :D

"It will be in Stealth-Mode, not Murder-mode" .... is I think, the best way, with which to define the two operational parameters of the 35. Well played, sir... Well played. EDIT, now 17 minutes in... What a lovable bunch of knuckleheads you have going, Cap... Kinda makes me nostalgic and wish I had marketable skills as a simulated fighter pilot. Keep it up lads! More laughs == more likes

"My social credit score is rising faster than my altitude!" Hilarious 😂

Great content as always. I am pretty sure that China wants to upgrade the J-20 with thrust vectoring to improve it's manuverability to a SU-27 style of capability but I also am not sure when they want to do this or if it will even happen.

the F-35 weapons bay is being upgraded to carry 6 AIM-120D or AIM-260s and should be in service when the new AIM - 260 missiles are available (Project Sidekick) also a little further down the line is the new GE adaptive cycle engine that provides a 20% boost in Speed, Range and Acceleration.

The Japanese Navy now has 2 Izumo class carriers capable of carrying F35. The Liaoning class carrier has a similar aircraft load out to the Izumo, a fight between their fleets is likely in the future if this scenario were to play out.

the aim 260 is so strong i wonder how it'll compare against the meteor

I wonder what this would look like if you combined the Chinese side with a big drone offence. Given that China is investing massively into drones and that you don't yet have the PL-21 and Type 055 modelled in game, using cheap drones to drain the US' rockets and clutter its radars seems like a realistic and the most salient addition to this scenario.

Here’s an idea, have your 8 main guys each command a Fleet of their own for a truly unique and realistic experience of what world war 3 would look like. Of course I’m thinking end of year episode. Put some time in, some phone calls and Computer power and I think you would have a hell of a viral video.

Would be nice to see Japan getting involved in a future scenario. The US fleet in this video started pretty much in the area of some Japanese outlying islands. The JSDF acquired F-35B in large part for reactive temporary basing on smaller Japanese islands such as these. A couple of JMSDF aircraft carrying “destroyers” [legally distinct from helicopter/VSTOL carriers] are tasked with transportation and maintenance of F-35B but not necessarily operating from them directly. The public information on their strategy seems to imply that they would drop off a load of F-35B on these islands near Taiwan as a conflict appears imminent and then withdraw to load more from the main islands. JASDF also has F-2, F-15J, and F-35A that might engage intruders. I suspect reaction time would be somewhat slow due to the way that JSDF command system works [paramilitary dependent on civilian leadership approval for actions]. In game, just leaving them as AI on ground with their slow launch time might simulate this. JGSDF does have some good air defenses such as Patriot that might be available from some islands. And of course the JMSDF is likely to have some frigates and destroyers in the area. JSDF also has their own quite good AWACS and MPA. Perhaps a scenario with the US out of position at time of the PLA strike and thus charging in with a fleet late to the fight. PLA goes after targets in Taiwan and Japanese outlying islands, plus perhaps a ground towards Okinawa. Taiwan and Japan defending on their own, trying to bide time until US fleet arrives, coming from position somewhere South of Tokyo.

Looking at the loss counter - great job adding it by the way - I see that the human losses are not counted. Just curious, could they be counted separately?

**I have not watched the video yet** I'm not sure it can be implemented by anyone other than the designers: AEGIS can datalink and share targeting. Ships with the NTU or equivalent can join, I do believe, and be controlled by AEGIS. That way what always happens here won't occur. 1 inbound gets 37 SM-2s, 1 gets 2, and some get ignored. Rather annoying. F-22's and F-35's also have that ability amongst themselves. Also, replacing some SM-2/6's with ESSM. It's 1:4. Increase short range defense and doesn't need that terminal illumination. Also, the carriers all have that 21-round RAM launcher, in addition to CIWS. I don't think that I ever see RAM get fired. Also, big gator freighters, all have ESSM and RAM (+CIWS), and can operate F-35B. Inbound vampires can also be engaged by the CAP or whomever. E-2D should be able to see them and fighters can shoot on the DL. So can the ships BTW. USN CEC is very powerful. I'm sure this will be great one way or another. You guys put so much work into these. Thank you.

great video! but was just wondering about the australian RAAF paintjob on the US navy f18f at 24:41?

Thank You Cap for using the picture of Pakistani J-10C.

It would be cool if someone models modern versions of the SM, for a more equal fight

Day 2, U.S. would have more than 4 planes flying cover. Ok now let's watch and see how battle turns out.. great job guys and gals

These wargames are so good, really enjoy watching how things play out and how unscripted they are.

How well is the SLQ-32 modeled? It would also be interesting to see the NULKA and especially the EA-18G modeled. The Growler is extremely powerful. It pumps out a lot of trons and very intelligently too.

How quick are you planning on adding SM-6 and SM-4 capabilities to the fleet? I feel that the carriers are missing a large part of their defensive capabilities without these vital missiles.

Suddenly, I have a craving for General Tao chicken

Do you know how an ugly car doesnt look fast? This is exactly how I feel about J20s - they dont look like they would perform well.

Damp was cracking me up with his Pooh-loyalty. 🤣

Awesome!

New sub here. I love these battles. I'm trying to figure out why, more effort is not put into taking down the AWACS? As you know, no AWACS, no extended guidance for the most part.

God bless Sock and his rising social credit score!

Great battle.

Cap and team with bangers every time

This was a good video, I think with modern warfare that one AWAC Plane would be well in front of the main Carrier group, by at least a 200 miles with at least 6 escorts with a few of those 50 or so miles ahead of the forward AWACS, more so if it was near China . I would also think their would be picket destroyer group that would be way in front of the Carrier group clearing the way and offering missile support to the forward AWACS and Air patrol. You would probably have another AWACS air patrol to the back of the carrier group especially if China had already attacked Twain , the aircraft carrier group will be on full alert in that area and would probably dictate the extra Air patrol aircraft, and would see the Chinese aircraft coming well before they even reached the Chinese Coast because that's how we always operate near hostel shorelines

Considering this is hypothetically off the coast of China, why was the Chinese air wing so small? Especially if the idea was for an overwhelming decapitation strike on the 7th fleet.

The sonic booms give me goosebumps...

I think the US would possibly be able to help defend, but would sustain such losses that it would devastate its capabilities. China has great tech and so many forces especially anti ship missiles that it would be hard to stop.

The first wargame with tawian it was a compounding scenario based off the last and that aspect with comment interaction was very interesting seeing the domino's fall.

BRILLIANT!

Whoever did the DW, Boogity Boogity Boogity! Let’s Go Racin! You sir, deserve a medal. The most American possible thing to say as you buzz the tower of an America class carrier on your way to defend The fleet. A bald eagles screeches , as a tear runs down Washington’s face at Mount Rushmore level America shit.

for maps like this one would it work to assign the Chinese two blank carriers? With no airwing taking off, just to give them a base to RTB? I don't play DCS so not sure if they need to take off from the carrier or not. This way planes that would RTB are not taking up un-needed missles or attention?

Wow! I'm that guy that winks and says wow right now

Do you have plans to add the IDS300 nval decoys to the sims. From what i understand they are designed to be a bigger radar target than the ships they protect.

Violet (Boom Boom) Moon is THE ultimate force multiplier !

Cap, Do you think the YJ-12s never went for a target because the southern ChiCom AWACS got taken out, and the northern one was out of range to see the ships? Just spit balling. As always, excellent work. Much appreciated.

I know you like doing multiplayer for these but I would really like to just see these in single player but maybe with everyone’s commentary in real time? It just works a lot more consistently and keeps things pretty fair since it’s all just AI like a real simulation. Idk just a thought.

We need the Flight IIA Arleigh Burke-class destroyer in game, which can use the ESSM

Man, I'm buying a new computer and a yoke to try playing with you guys

When setting the RCS for the planes do you take account of the weapon load (i.e. stealth isn't stealth if carrying external stores).

I think, It's the way the missiles have been fired. I think they have assessed a wave threat and attacked the destroyers. In reality that's what a Destroyer should be doing (so they did their jobs). A destroyer is calculated at something like a life span of 30 minutes in a cold war battle. If the bombers did wave attacks in a more flowing wave, I'm sure that would work better. I'm liking the new Ship models. I think you need to do this again in a 90's mode in a test to see what happens. The destroyers are floating targets designed to keep the carrier safe.

The Awacs would be protected by a pair of fighters.

So I've just started watching these vids, extremely impressed. My only question is how "realistic" would this battle be?

The radar reflector under the left belly of J-20 need to be removed tho

Nitpicking: 0.05 meters squared (what Cap said) is not the same as 0.05 square meters (what was written on the screen). 0.05 meters squared is a square five centimeters on a side or 25 square centimeters. 0.05 square meters is 5% of a square meter (10,000 square centimeters) or 50 square centimeters. And obviously, it's minutiae, but since GR is all the way down in the nitty gritty details, I think the distinction is important. Probably you know which is which, and which is being reported from your data sources, but just in case you didn't, I figured I would remind you. Thanks for your hard work and dedication. Love your simulations.

So how does one get your modded files? I would buy 15 Patreon subscriptions for all your new tech

when you plan on redoing this battle with flight 3 burkes and type 55?

With the Chinese AShM two possibilities, first the AI is only targeting the carrier on their first shot and then launching the subsequent missiles as any target. Another possibility for their behaviour might be explained by them being initially launched at the carrier location but then switching to self-guidance as the datalink cant see the ships (in the multiplayer the closest awacs was shot down after launch). Does DCS model the ships AN/SLQ-32 ECM which can jam missile guidance?

I feel like the single player simulation afterwards wasn't fair since all of the planes in the air were capable of shooting down the vampires

They now have 2 carrier strike groups in the S China Sea. How would that fare? What about Subs? Could DCS handle the missiles launched on both groups?

Significant flaw in this simulation: You don't have SAM coverage in Mainland China. If the H-6J's can launch the YJ-21's from basically the coast of the PRC, that means they can do so under friendly PLA SAM coverage, but you're missing that the way it's set up.

My social credit score is rising faster than my altitude! lol great line

these simulated battles are impressively great at pinpointing future and/or present needs. for instance as i watch the battle, i would think the two best needs for a fleet located off another countries borders would be either, spy satellite capability of real time air space monitoring from the coast inland 100 miles, or high altitude stealth real time air space monitoring for the same area. this way you could at least be observing for incoming assets that are beyond the awacs range. secondly, if you are going to have a fleet off the coast, you might want to consider deploying a few subs even closer inland just along the coast loaded up like surface to air missile trucks, just in case they were needed.

You are missing one big character in US side, EA-18G with new jamming pod.

Would be cool to see us ships with sm-3 and sm-6

Perhaps a different tone for the next Taiwan video, perhaps scenarios of the US running a Chinese blockade of Taiwan? Trying to stay unseen with SV-22 osprey or some other transport choppers avoiding a Chinese air/naval patrol that is tasked with spotting and intercepting them. It would be interesting as this scenario might be more realistic as to how a Taiwan war would play out, with the US trying their best to avoid war with China but wanting to discreetly help Taiwan

@GrimReapers Mr. Reaper, could you run this scenario with 3 more hypotheticals - one with Raptors instead of Hornets, one with all 35s and one with Hornets - 35s and a Raider? I would very much appreciate it. Thank you

Yay

2 way data link from the a260 missile as I understand it allows for both reporting of location and status back to aircraft and also allows for overriding guidance to target in event of electronic warfare etc... But it got me thinking... Could a missile be created as probe. Fired ahead of the aircraft and sending back radar Contacts etc

It’s a GREAT DAY!

Quick question for you Cap, why did the F 35s not use the sidekick ability with their missiles in this?

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About those Anti Ship Missiles going for the destroyers, word is; Commanders of frigates/destroyers would deliberately get between the Missiles and Carrier/s....since the CV is the most expensive, heavily crowd, flagship of the CSG. (don't quote me on that, just something to consider)

Violet you saved America!!!!

Malfunctioning stuff from China sounds par for the course to be honest.