They learnt from American advisors and beat them in their own game of mass production and lean manufacturing. Especially Japanese. Now American and European companies send their representatives to Japan to learn about these concepts.

Same story with the 2000gt. Toyota loves making cool cars just to show they can, and then never making many, so that they become collectors items.

Yep, same as the 2000gt. Toyota loves to make beautiful badass cars that nobody can afford and then end them so people can only talk about them and never see them while they continue to make eco boxes

Definitely and I think it’s a way better looking car than the body we got of the current Supra.

I don't care what Toyota or anybody else says, the LFA is the REAL Mark V Supra.

Exactly. I cant get parts for my soarer too

the yellow one along Dandy Rd dealer?

@@liquidmakor6793 Iirc it was white, at the Brighton dealership, might have been yellow

@@liquidmakor6793 After googling, yeah,. the yellow one, apparently it's delivery km's only

Also true I hope the next supra is and be a longer wheel base

Does she still have the LFA?

Play stupid games..

Trying to look younger lol

100%

The Honda NSX of the current generation is expensive. That's one of the reasons why it sells poorly

The current NSX is cool & I'd love to own one but there's nothing really remarkable about it. I doubt it'll ever have the appreciation the LFA has now.

The GT-R was not competing with it. It was competing with the 911 Turbo. Plus the GT-R was based on a shared platform and this was based on a bespoke carbon fibre platform with a bespoke engine. You're comparing apples to oranges.

@@traviswalker8933 i didnt say they were competing. im not even comparing. im talking about the overall market. the lfa's release kept on getting delayed and in that time the gtr came out and blew everything away. the video said the lfa was ahead of its time. im saying it wasnt. it was 10 years late and when it was finally released other cars, like the gtr with more modern tech had already been released.

@@adamhayhow_recomp_coach the GT-R came out two years earlier than the LFA. It was more like an affordable alternative to the 911 Turbo than a competitor to the LFA. Toyota was competing in a different market with the car.

It is super expensive at this point as well.

You can also customize other Lexus vehicles without any issues. The IS300 got the street cred because it was using the 2JZ engine which was being overhyped at the time.

​@@traviswalker8933At the time?

@@RyuusanFT86 yes, the comment refers to the time when the car was in production.

My buddy had a nice red manual is300 w cwest kit on it axis wheels on tien suspension. I loved driving that thing

Unfortunately there’s not much to talk about it. The car got stolen and crashed shortly after appearing in the movie.

No.

It was a mid-engine car. Mid-engine doesn't mean the engine has to be in the rear of the car.

@@traviswalker8933 front mid ok still didnt have the supercar roofline.

@@CRAPO2011 that's a self made standard. Not really what defines a super car per se.

@@traviswalker8933 ok yes but cant remember anyone saying it was beautiful, the v10 made up for thr styling but damn i cant take it over a murci SV

@@CRAPO2011 it was differently styled. Much more in-line with the kind of styling the Ferrari 458 had.

Who? The Supra comes with about 400 hp in stock form with inline-6 and can be easily boosted to 500 hp with some simple mods.

Sure let's talk about it. The lowest center of gravity car under $80,000 is a $28k toyota with a subaru engine. Its a genius concept, dreamt up by Akio toyota, it is the first affordable FR sportscar with a boxer engine, inspired by the porsch 911 and the toyota ae86 and misunderstood by most Americans who only want to drive in a straight line and merge on the high way. In the new model, in the event of a front collision, the boxer engine detaches and slides under the the vehicle completely, making it much safer, and the ONLY car to get a perfect safety rating according to the new safety rating system in 2022. An incredible feat for a sportscar, which are usually not top safety competitors. All thanks to the misunderstood boxer engine.

@Treaxvour 1. Why does every 86 owner think of a motor swap in the first hour of owning it? 2. The piston heads are not designed for boost, oil pan not baffled. 3. Why not a 2.5 Turbo? 4. Why not offer a 3.0 flat 6. 5. Why not a V6. Bottom line 2.0 Flat shit. Wheels to small and thin. Great chassis I should know. I drive it every day. 5.

Initially when the car came out it didn't sell as much they were 375k msrp they stopped making the LFA now that it's a collector car the prices shot up

Popularity and worth does not determine failure/success. Profit does.

@@TylerM1611 It was a limited edition. They only had plans to make 500 cars, and 165 were allocated to Japanese market. Toyota/Lexus was extremely picky and only sold to people who wanted the car, and customized vehicles for them. Allocation was something like 10 cars for Australia, 17 allotments for Canada, 60-70 vehicles for Europe, and 150-170 allocations for the US market. All orders were already placed by 2010. And in North America, Lexus forced a lease agreement to avoid any quick sales of the vehicle by speculators. They had no need to do that for European and Japanese customers. Perhaps that is why you mistakenly think the vehicle didn't sell.

And why does his opinion matter?

​@@traviswalker8933.. because of his decades of experience in the car industry.

@@phillydelphia8760 his personal opinion isn't the final word.

@@traviswalker8933 It holds more merit than most.

@@KyCloud69 not really, I would value an unbiased opinion more and there are other car journalists who are judging the cars on fair grounds. There have been many cases where his opinion of cars has proven to be wrong.

Yes, it is a Toyota, but many Supra fans still wonder why Toyota went into a partnership with BMW to build the new Supra. Why use a BMW chassis, engine, gearbox and even much of the BMW running gear in a Toyota sportscar? The obvious reason is saving money, but that kind of goes against the no-compromises philosophy Toyota has used on the previous Supra's and a re-engineered version of the famous 2-JZE would be a much more obvious choice than the BMW engine. Many of the die-hard Supra fans still think in terms of "go for broke or go home" and they still feel Toyota should have gone home instead of producing the new Supra this way. And as the Supra has always been a niche car with a very dedicated following, it kind of makes you wonder if Toyota did the right thing with calling this car a Supra.

​@@tjroelsmaIt's clear you got a bad understanding. Toyota did the right thing of partnering with BMW for the new Supra(MK5), especially for BMWs tried-and-true inline 6, the B58. Along with the fact that the partnership literally kept the price of the MK5 Supra low, it would've costed too much for Toyota to "just build a Supra by themselves" .

​​@@tjroelsmaAlso you mention the 2JZ. You do realize that the 2JZ series ain't from the Supra (MK4) right????? It originally began in the Toyota JZA147(Aristo)/Lexus GS Sedan. While the Supra MK4 literally came from the Lexus SC400/300 and the SC300 already had the 2JZ series with it...long before the MK4's existence. Y'all call ya'll selves "die hard Supra fans" yet literally don't know of those facts I told you, and the fact that the MK4 A80 Supra was a sales flopped car since it debuted(the MK3 A70 Supra is still the best selling Supra today). And wasn't all that while stock(literally the MK4 A80 Supra RZ Turbocharge trim had is hands full against 1990s stock base model C4 Corvettes that also costed a few thousands less that the MK4 Supra RZ trim).

​@@tjroelsma"Why use BMW chassis, engine, gearbox and even much gear in a Toyota sports car"? Lol, the Chassis was developed by both Toyota and BMW. Plus the generation (G29) BMW Z4 wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for the Supra MK5. Last Generation's Z4 flopped bad in sales. And you mention the gearbox? The ZF8 Speed Transmission is literally in other cars from different manufacturers/automakers such as Aston Martin, Jaguar, Bentley, Charger and Challenger (from Dodge), Etc. And as for the engine, Toyota ain't gonna just spend funds to make a inline 6 engine for one car(2JZ was put in different applications. Not just the Supra MK4. And the 2JZ didn't even start in the MK4 , it started in the Toyota Aristo!). Therefore, the B58 passed the Toyota test which literally there's B58s rackin' over 800+ horsepower (or above) on Stock Bottom End. Take a chill pill homie

@@tjroelsma Quite a few misconceptions in this reply so let's tackle them one by one. First off, BMW has nothing to do with the ZF8, it's the same gearbox that's used in Hellcats, Audi's, Jags, obviously BMWs including the Ms. It's widely regarded as the best automatic in the business in terms of reliability, strength & speed. Frankly it blows the door off any transmission currently found in a Lexus or Toyota. I can understand the gripes with co-developing the chassis with BMW as recent BMW's are notorious for feeling synthetic & over-hyper which the Mkv certainly does as well. Regardless it's still a good chassis with a ton of potential, another benefit to it is it's very light for a modern chassis. The last thing I want to say is there is no path where Toyota "redesigns" the 2JZ as it's an ancient engine architecture with almost zero thought to emissions or fuel regulations & if there is such a thing as a redesigned 2JZ it would look something like the B58, which has proven over & over to be super stout. I mean seriously those engines are putting VR38 level power numbers on stock rotating assembly/block for half the price. The B58 is also considered as quite possibly the most reliable engine BMW has ever made. If you actually take the time to read about the B58, it's pretty interesting. The block is a closed deck AluSIl from their diesel i6 & the rods/crank are also very similar to that of the diesel engine (hence why they're known for taking sooo much power.)

1972 VW Beetle had a seat belt light combined with a most annoying BUZZER. Dad castrated the wiring to it, and that was that. PrePan the LFA was as low as 280k. Should have bought 2. I can see myself with the dash out just to find that annoying beep.

Yeah that's stupid. With as much tech in the thing you'd think it would be an option easily toggled on the infotainment system.. nope.

There was a PT cruises in F&F?

In Europe, not in US

Not in Australia you don't

​@@lotusfanaticBENo, they're all over the place here too. They're the fucking civics of supercars.

Great way to ruin it. If you want a turbo supercar go buy a McLaren. The LFA wouldn't be special if it was boosted.

The USP of the LFA was the handcrafted engine, the digital dashboard and the sound of the engine tuned by Yamaha.

It failed in SALES.

Yes because only 500 were made🤣@@samsonCoby

@@harkimo6 Your point?

​@@samsonCobyit was never meant to be a sales success. It was made to show the world that Toyota was not a maker of boring cars. They have the engineering prowess to make something special.

@@traviswalker8933 True, yet weren't popular by the masses? Just like the MK4 Supra. That was criticized as well. Hence, low sales throughout the 1990s(and early 2000s in Japan)

You're right, but they're good at it because they have a culture of taking pride in their work. The American equivalent is a bunch of trailer-trash slacking off all day just to get a pay check.

How is it un-skilled when you're literally learning a skill before being deployed on the assembly line?

Working in manufacturing....I see good people come and go. Investing in workers sounds like a good deal until you factor that the majority are just looking for a check. They take it very personal when you offer 'criticism' of their work. It will be a big problem for aviation if they fail to keep the slacker mentality out.

You’ve never been in a wrx

@@johnshukeireh5804 I've been in enough of them. Only 1 was ever impressive. I enjoy showing them my tail lights more than riding in them. wrxs aren't impressive.

Mazda3 Turbo

​@@johnshukeireh5804are you serious 😂😂😂😂 a WRX is more likely to blow a head gasket than produce good torque.

My 1983 280zx has 145 hp and 156 torque. More torque than hp. On a 2800 lb car, I'd say that's a good amount.