OVERRATED JDM SPORTS CARS

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Craig Lieberman

Craig Lieberman

Жыл бұрын

While I adore all of these cars, some are just overrated. Once you take away the subjective characteristics, it comes down to what you get for your money performance wise.
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@kalei43
@kalei43 Жыл бұрын
Was just talking about this with a friend, the 90s were peak car culture. Even today where we all are just trying to relive the 90s. That includes import and domestic. We had some great cars in that time frame.
@CRAPO2011
@CRAPO2011 Жыл бұрын
Id say domestic peak dayys is now. Japnese sports cars were in rthe 90s
@kalei43
@kalei43 Жыл бұрын
@@CRAPO2011 don’t know about that, only thing going on interesting now is maybe the mopars? 90’s to early 2ks muscle cars are coveted atm. Crazy ass prices for a fox body, ws6, maybe not so much the Camaro, c6 is also a hot ticket now. If we go a little earlier like 1980, then we got all the g bodies etc. I was a domestic kid at the time, car scene was awesome for the domestics. In my opinion it outshined the imports. Now adays these cars suck ass, so many nanny devices, bloated, heavy and over priced. What I would say is peak now is engine management systems. Blows me away how infinitely better they are now than anything we had back then.
@rrmetalbox4969
@rrmetalbox4969 Жыл бұрын
90s sport cars has characters and spirits, nowaday people only wants EV shits, so gay period.
@houseking9211
@houseking9211 Жыл бұрын
@@kalei43 I think early 2000s were better for american and european cars but 90s were definitely peak for japanese cars
@sambone8213
@sambone8213 Жыл бұрын
90's was peak everything
@rickym.5271
@rickym.5271 Жыл бұрын
I remember in the 90's seeing tons of mustangs, trans ams and Camaros. But at the price points at the time, I see why.
@Dejaelvicio0emiliomelendez5072
@Dejaelvicio0emiliomelendez5072 Жыл бұрын
I have a 90 Camaro and it's fun even though it's natural and full stock no turbos (it supports though)
@TheLindyHooper
@TheLindyHooper Жыл бұрын
I'm loving the NFS2 graphics and sounds. That takes me back
@SudeennnSam
@SudeennnSam 3 ай бұрын
Totally 90s
@Blue_Psych0
@Blue_Psych0 Жыл бұрын
If you look at the E36 M3 it's rly sad that you guys in the states got such a slow version of the car due to cost reduction from BMW. the Euro Version with the 3.2l engine has ~320hp and is a whole different animal.
@sportfuryman
@sportfuryman Жыл бұрын
why? gas prices are cheap here we were driving modded v8s while you had to do the best you could with 6s. Im sad your gas prices are so high as to prohibit you from driving cars with 8 cylinders....😅
@justanotherbeautiful5736
@justanotherbeautiful5736 Жыл бұрын
US or Europe BMW are overpriced trash...
@Blue_Psych0
@Blue_Psych0 Жыл бұрын
@@sportfuryman if you say so.... but you do know that there are some benefits of having a smaller,lighter engine do you? Also there were plenty enough European V8,V10,V12 or even W12 engines around. But hey I'm sick and tired of the present car culture and I won't start and arguement with you. Cheers
@JustMinecraft4Eva
@JustMinecraft4Eva Жыл бұрын
@@sportfuryman What???? We also have V8, and way more V10 and V12 and W12 than you xdddddd
@douglaslorin739
@douglaslorin739 Жыл бұрын
Due to our 25 year rule, I have been seeing Euro spec E36 M3s appear in the US. The problem is the price. Most places are asking $30K and over!!
@ReboyGTR
@ReboyGTR Жыл бұрын
*AE86* *It's a nice car. Rear wheel drive, lightweight and the 4AGE sounds amazing.* *Guess what? A Miata will do everything an AE86 does for a fraction of the cost.*
@danielthirgood1997
@danielthirgood1997 Жыл бұрын
facts lol
@braziliansheetbox2497
@braziliansheetbox2497 Жыл бұрын
And randle better too 😂
@youraveragejdmenthusiast430
@youraveragejdmenthusiast430 Жыл бұрын
Nah they both expensive for me because my country’s car prices are driven to tree And best thing yet I cannot find AE86 that isn’t a rally car and miatas don’t just exist, only the nc and what comes after it
@ShanesAutos
@ShanesAutos Жыл бұрын
These days an AE86 here in Ireland costs the same as my 2018 GT86, so overpriced in that regard but I do respect the AE86, it’s a very significant car.
@RyuusanFT86
@RyuusanFT86 Жыл бұрын
​@@ShanesAutos the GT86 costs less than the AE86 here in the states- it's disgusting.
@mrlt1
@mrlt1 Жыл бұрын
Missing the viper (non gts) and terminator cobra, terminators were grossly underrated on power. Only reason I mentioned that Cobra is because you did mention a couple JDM cars touching into the early 2000s
@jinxtacy
@jinxtacy Жыл бұрын
I mean the NSX went to 05 well past its prime and the 3000GT 99 ; Supra 98 ; 300ZX 96 ; RX7 95 versus 03. That car was really cool. An IRS Mustang with a supercharger. I kind of reminds me of a more realistic SuperStallion that was pranced out in the 90s that had me in awe before the more uninteresting metro Mustang came and the GM cars died aside from the Corvette. First gen Vipers were pretty poor cars, but the second gens produced an actual car that I love (never been in an RT though). It was so flawed in so many ways and brute forced its way in comparos versus the 993 turbo. Terminator, C5 Z06, and the GTS were a solid way to close out that 90s engineering era. I miss seeing those cars racing at the tracks. I think a questionable sports car I'd want to toss into the fray (but I get why I'm one of probably 5 people) and probably my personal favorite would be a Panoz Esperante.
@ArthurSperotto
@ArthurSperotto Жыл бұрын
You missed the title.
@Dejaelvicio0emiliomelendez5072
@Dejaelvicio0emiliomelendez5072 Жыл бұрын
JDM Currently it is about damaging engines for fame.
@mrlt1
@mrlt1 Жыл бұрын
@@ArthurSperotto no just following along what was being compared in the video to the so called grail cars.
@untilthewheelsfalloff1751
@untilthewheelsfalloff1751 Жыл бұрын
I love the objective approach, and since you’ve actually owned some of these it seems much more authentic.
@binskee677
@binskee677 Жыл бұрын
dude, he just compared hp numbers that is totally bullshit, drive one of the 90's mustangs on a track and then a RX-7 the 90's american cars were total trash cars with a big engine sitting on the front axle
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam Жыл бұрын
Road and Track “You can thank the original Acura NSX for a lot of things: It put Acura on the map in the U.S.; it forced Ferrari to clean up its act with the F355; it started the "VTEC just kicked in, yo" thing, and the list goes on. The NSX also apparently had a profound effect on one Gordon Murray, the mastermind behind the McLaren F1. If you're a fan of the F1-and if you're reading this website, you are-you should probably thank the NSX.”
@ColinStevens
@ColinStevens 10 ай бұрын
Yeah he completely missed the mark on the NSX. I typically agree somewhat with his assessments, but this abject disdain for the First gen NSX is on par with Doug DeMuro's review of the FK8 Type R. I mean, Ayrton Senna helped make the car better by test driving it and helping them hone the suspension for fucks sake. The damn thing had the world's first all-aluminum, monocoque body for a production street car. Oh and let's not forget it was the first production car with Titanium Connecting Rods. This car, much like the LFA, was a test bed for ungodly technology (of the time) being put in the hands of people who could only dream of being behind the wheel of a race car. This brought real racing pedigree to the streets. Just like the McLaren F1.
@manasseh2577
@manasseh2577 9 ай бұрын
​@ColinStevens The sad thing about the LFA it came a few years too late. It reached the perfection Lexus was aiming for just for it to fall short in the market because of how long it took to hit production.
@DblOSmith
@DblOSmith Жыл бұрын
Of all those cars, I'd love to have an '97 NSX-T with pop up headlights, and 6spd. You don't need to go fast when you look that freakin' good!
@redding4540
@redding4540 Жыл бұрын
it matters to me
@binskee677
@binskee677 Жыл бұрын
well on a track you'll be the fastest of those don't worry ;)
@jinxtacy
@jinxtacy Жыл бұрын
I think you nailed certain things like reengineering the cars for the mandatory OBD-II in 1996 and the yen to dollar that caused drastic price increases in the early 90s and the end to the era that gave us crazy value like the LS400. The LT1 fourth gens don't seem to stack up until the LS1 came around in 1998. It's kind of unfair to compare the C4 from the early 80s to the JDM cars which blitzed America. The leap from C4 (a car I loved to the C5) is pretty remarkable. Looking at the actual performance the Supra traded blows with the C5 and the NSX outperformed both it was noted as having exceptional brakes at the time). I'd say the NSX was the car that transformed exotics and in a way was the GT3. As it stretched past 98 the price rising from $78 to I remember 104kish in 03 was a bit silly. It was the car that was stubbornly Honda in engine tech rather than turbos. 300ZX was a fine comfortable car (partial to the 2+2) myself to stretch the rear a bit and move the gas tank fill. 3kgts were remarkable but in a techy nerdy kind of way, but I thought they were good-looking cars, especially in the final year. The only two sports cars on the list to me are the NSX and RX-7. Having lived with an FD for a decade, it is amazingly difficult to find a replacement, but it's much happier at the track and a bit rough on the street. Never had a GTR and have spent little time in one so can't really comment on that. The remarkable thing is '89 R32, '89 Z32, '90 3kgt, '92 Supra, '92 Rx7. If we just had that one more year of the cars at affordable levels before the SUV explosion I imagine sales might have been a bit better. In reality, even F-bodies and all sports car sales were falling during this time period.
@binskee677
@binskee677 Жыл бұрын
totally agree with your comment! The NSX transformed the world of sportscars and it was anyway built to compete with posches and ferraris on a track. If you like roadsters, the S2000 might be an option, it's fron't mid engines, revs to 9000k and double wishbone all around like the FD. Also the chassis is as rigid as a coupe thanks to the x-frame monocoque.
@Dejaelvicio0emiliomelendez5072
@Dejaelvicio0emiliomelendez5072 Жыл бұрын
Most American cars are not forced, the Corvette c4 and c5 are mostly naturally aspirated.
@jinxtacy
@jinxtacy Жыл бұрын
@@binskee677 S2K seems like the most obvious option. Driving the girlfriend's supercharged ND is a really good car, though I preferred her non-SCed ND to be honest. EPS is a little bit a turnoff for me and the ratio is too fast and gearing too short for me being used to 90s cars. I'd like to try an NC out to see how it fits.
@jenningsmills5398
@jenningsmills5398 Жыл бұрын
The import scene in America in the mid to late 90's was a special time. The American car companies got caught being lazy.
@m1xup
@m1xup Жыл бұрын
The "toggle" sound from the need for speed menu when cars show up in the video = priceless
@alexsaffamerica
@alexsaffamerica Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was about to comment that.
@ImInLoveWithBulla
@ImInLoveWithBulla 11 ай бұрын
I like how you said the NSX weighed 3200 pounds “back then”. Unfortunately, due to inflation, they now weigh 7,000 pounds. 😮
@SomebodysNephew
@SomebodysNephew 5 ай бұрын
Put them fatties on Jenny Craig diet.
@nicholaspalandra2033
@nicholaspalandra2033 4 ай бұрын
It’s cuz they reintroduced it as a new model a decade later
@DannyGodlewski
@DannyGodlewski Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was in high school in early 2000’s so we all drove cars from the 90’s. I miss my FD RX7 so much, and it was so much fun
@robbalinski1606
@robbalinski1606 Жыл бұрын
I miss the day's of getting them for under 5k here in canada, I don't know why I passed on r32 and r33 gtr's and mk4 supra's.......fucking hind sights a bitch. Now I'm just stuck with my 97 Eclipse GSX as my only dream car I've been able to acquire.
@juwanhowardhll8019
@juwanhowardhll8019 Жыл бұрын
If you find a low mileage mk4 supra and buy it for 100k then be prepared to put almost 80k into it the break lines will be dried out and you have to worry about rust underneath the windows and possibly a bad fuel tank
@JOSELUISGARCIA-pi8kv
@JOSELUISGARCIA-pi8kv Жыл бұрын
It makes me laugh how some idiots compare current cars with those of the 90's or older, man of course they are not fast cars anymore, I wouldn't mind driving a 300hp car from the 90's, because nowadays everyone is obsessed with the horsepower.
@gav240z
@gav240z Жыл бұрын
I have never lusted after a 90s era Mustang, Camaro or Corvette. I simply do not want them in my garage. However I have always fancied the FD, NSX, GTR and Supra. I think the global market agrees
@svvwoo
@svvwoo Жыл бұрын
i like the the need for speed SFX, keep doing more of those!
@Infernal_Elf
@Infernal_Elf Жыл бұрын
Great video. The 1990s where really the peak of Japanese Cars both all the sportscars mentioned and luxury cars. U had the Mazda Cosmo for an example and the first Lexus the LS 400 but sadly most of the cars where developed right before Japan ran into a very very bad recession in 1991 that they never really totally recovered from. known as the lost Decades. I have had a Toyota 1993 Corolla Gsi-16 coupe liftback myself and the build quality was impeccable did 230k to 260k Kilometers without a single problem only replaced Shocks and such in 2015-2021 In Norwegian conditions.
@izzy031096
@izzy031096 Жыл бұрын
4age or 4afe?
@Infernal_Elf
@Infernal_Elf Жыл бұрын
@@izzy031096 4AFE 1.6L 113HP
@izzy031096
@izzy031096 Жыл бұрын
@@Infernal_Elf Wonderful engines! As reliable as they come.
@kelvinsullivan1126
@kelvinsullivan1126 Жыл бұрын
if you are talking straight line performance yes us wins . track corner abilities/build quality have to give it to japan.
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam Жыл бұрын
Yup. Some people car about turning and not just beating a guy light to light.
@brandonoyler760
@brandonoyler760 Жыл бұрын
Will never forget seeing a z32 300zxtt for the first time
@SwapBlogRU
@SwapBlogRU Жыл бұрын
I saw one recently near the Kremlin in Moscow, it was yellow and in pretty nice condition. They're cool cars.
@colind7678
@colind7678 Жыл бұрын
I wanted a 300ZXTT when I graduated high school. And I bought one last year and am loving it!
@nonename7869
@nonename7869 Жыл бұрын
Two of my friends had these in the 90s. Among my group we had 2 300ZX, 1 Supra, 3 240SX, 2 Integra, 1 CRX, several Civics, 1 Mustang GT, 1 Mazda MX6, 1 Mazda MX3, and dad cars of the day. What a group!
@gsmith207
@gsmith207 Жыл бұрын
Nailed it CL. Same age as you and drove all of them except the R34. The ZR1 Vette wins everyday in my book, and I’m going to own one some day instead of the Supra I used to have.
@Und34d_R
@Und34d_R Жыл бұрын
Comparing a ZR1 vs a 20+ year old car. Sounds reasonable. Maybe you should consider people buy different cars for different reasons.
@erikw792
@erikw792 Жыл бұрын
​@@Und34d_R He's talking about the 90s ZR1. Watch the video.😆
@gsmith207
@gsmith207 Жыл бұрын
@@erikw792 yup that overhead cam GM motor is one of a kind. Especially when built by mercury, and designed by lotus.
@braziliansheetbox2497
@braziliansheetbox2497 Жыл бұрын
"Overrated jdm sport cars" all of then are 😂
@Litassa
@Litassa Жыл бұрын
Now that's a high quality one! Great job, Craig! 👌
@math-e
@math-e Жыл бұрын
Didn't know the NSX was so expensive im US. The atraction on this car was how it performed on par against some Lambos and Ferraris, but much cheaper in Japan. It has less horsepower but the aluminium structure allowed it to run and turn well
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam Жыл бұрын
The NSX made all of the exotics go back to the drawing board. So many reasons to list, but those that know, know. It isn’t all about 0-60
@xXYannuschXx
@xXYannuschXx Жыл бұрын
@@KosmicHRTRacingTeam I feel like this entire video was about power and 0-60 times.
@Tw1stTech
@Tw1stTech 11 ай бұрын
@@xXYannuschXx after everything is said and done Craig is still an American Car enthusiast, meaning 0-60 above all else and no torque must mean no fun. Drive those 90s American cars around a track then take an RX-7, NSX, S2000 etc for the same track and see. And by track I do NOT mean a straight line. American „Motorsport“ is a joke to every European and Japanese person and it’s for good reason. I get good laughs from American car journalism ✌🏻
@barrybaughman2879
@barrybaughman2879 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your videos thank you for sharing all of them.
@vermontvermont9292
@vermontvermont9292 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I miss a lot of the 90's FF nuggets . The Mazda mx-3 1.8 V6. The Nissan nx2000, so many back then.
@nonename7869
@nonename7869 Жыл бұрын
Recognition for the unsung NX2000 🔥
@bf666bf
@bf666bf Жыл бұрын
I like the NFS2SE touch 😂
@NFSBeast2365
@NFSBeast2365 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, i also love the Underground SFX
@Travis-guy-247
@Travis-guy-247 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the sound effects from when the specs and pictures are moving and changing? I noticed they're exactly the same as the ones from NFS Underground
@jasonvicars226
@jasonvicars226 Жыл бұрын
How do they compare on a road course? Love the channel!😊
@8bit_bryan
@8bit_bryan Жыл бұрын
I wonder how the Eclipse GSX stacks up against that lineup of 90s sports cars.
@Holmesson
@Holmesson Жыл бұрын
Stock? Not well.
@izzy031096
@izzy031096 Жыл бұрын
Poorly. Far better off in a Evo. You Americans got bloody unlucky there. My mates and I used to abuse Evo 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 regularly here in New Zealand. You could pick them up for sub 10k nzd all over the place.
@Holmesson
@Holmesson Жыл бұрын
@@izzy031096 Tell me about it. As a hardcore WRC fan and Japanese performance car enthusiast, it was HELL growing up with no Lancer Evolutions or WRXs. We didn't get out first WRX until 2002 and the Evo came out the following year... and even then, they were watered-down, neutered versions of their glorious Right Hand Drive models sold in Asia, Europe, and the island nations.
@izzy031096
@izzy031096 Жыл бұрын
@@Holmesson I feel for you bro. If it makes you feel any better we thrashed the shit out of them down here and drove them how they were supposed to be driven, very aggressively on b-roads. Still to this day, one the best cars I’ve driven was my mates WRX type RA with all the good bits on it.
@8bit_bryan
@8bit_bryan Жыл бұрын
@@izzy031096 This explains the heavy investment Americans made in aftermarket performance for the GSX and GS-T cars. I remember reading that the early Gen1 Eclipse cars (89-93?) with pop up headlights had a short block that was incredibly stronger than any other model in the years after it was replaced with a more affordable factory version. Is there any truth to this?
@DucatiPaso750
@DucatiPaso750 Жыл бұрын
One car I wish you would have included was the Buick Grand National and the T-Type. GNXs were pretty exclusive. Grand Nationals weren't circuit racers but I remember how badass they were. I somehow convinced a dealership salesman to let me drive a brand new one in 1986 when I was 18. I honestly think the salesperson knew I couldn't buy it, but wanted an excuse to drive it. On another note, what is your opinion on the 80s Dodge Daytona Turbo 2s and Chrysler Lasers?
@squall-dl7pe
@squall-dl7pe Жыл бұрын
I like your video but I disagree on the performance statement you made. You listed acceleration performance which was never the stronghold of those JDM Cars most of them were built for cornering with no AmericanMuscle listed in here can hold a candle to them. I have owned a 96 Mustang GT, 91 nsx and 87 rx7 turbo, and while I feel like the Mustang had good get-up-and-go there is no way I could have ever driven it at the same speed than the two others on windy roads. Now I am from Europe originally which drag race was never a prevailing type of racing compared to here. Since you've driven a lot more of those cars than I have how do you feel about their handling
@darianthescorpion1132
@darianthescorpion1132 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say these cars are over rated, it’s just that some of these cars have been ruined due to the current trends. Negative camber, wings bigger than a garage door, Lamborghini type scissor doors on cars that don’t benefit from it, fake vents, looking fast but not ACTUALLY fast, etc. I’m all for wrapping your car, but there’s a limit to that too. Just don’t overdo it.
@nolesy34
@nolesy34 Жыл бұрын
If your sick of the car options include... wrapping it Around a pole
@kl0wnkiller912
@kl0wnkiller912 Жыл бұрын
I got my drivers license at 16 in 1976. My first car was a Toyota Corona that my dad gave me. It was gutless and the engine rattled... but it ran. My first car that I bought was a 71 AMC Hornet SST, then a 66 Chevelle Super Sport (should never have sold that one), 64 Mercury Comet Caliente, 71 Impala convertible 427, 71 Challenger 340. Then I bought a used Toyota Cressida with the non turbo six... that thing was fast for a sedan! Now I have a 14 CTS-V coupe... and a 99 Mazda Protege. The V is a beast but the Mazda is low miles, all manual 1.6 liter and I have to say, after lowering it it is a blast to drive. Not fast but it goes around a track really, really well. Power isn't everything. BTW I think you overrated the 0-60 time on the Camaro. I drove some of those and they were rather slow.
@kl0wnkiller912
@kl0wnkiller912 Жыл бұрын
@@ACommenterOnKZfaq Mine is 105 HP but the car handles well and I can get 115 MPH out of it, just not quickly.
@kl0wnkiller912
@kl0wnkiller912 Жыл бұрын
@@ACommenterOnKZfaq YEah, I get it. Me too.. sometimes. My V has enough mods to be pushing almost 800 HP off the last dyno sheet. I get it, I do but my point was sometimes cheap is fun too. The Protege was $1800 with 41K miles on it and with only a few hundred dollars in mods it is quite fun to drive on a twisty course. Different kind of fun but not everyone can afford an R34... or a CTS-V. I DO wish I could find a turbo kit for the Mazda though. She just too old for a kit...😩
@seantaylor2683
@seantaylor2683 Жыл бұрын
Base Camaro's had V6's and prior to the '98 facelift there were two V8 options, the widely regarded as gutless 305(5L) and the LT1 350(5.7L)
@skvltdmedia
@skvltdmedia Жыл бұрын
NSX handled like a beast though, didn't it? And FD took more boost without many internal mods unlike standard engines. Also, where are the MR2s?
@ColinStevens
@ColinStevens 10 ай бұрын
Like a slot car.
@sambone8213
@sambone8213 Жыл бұрын
Lusted after all these cars as a kid and teen, was lucky to have a best friend who was equally immersed in the car culture of the time. All the hours we spent talking about them, playing Gran Turismo, reading our magazine subscriptions, car shows, going to dealerships just to see one on the showroom, etc, etc, etc. Wish I could go back to the late 90's and live there forever.
@zues2011
@zues2011 Жыл бұрын
0:35 i’d recognize those sound effects anywhere, Need for Speed Underground / Underground 2 !!!
@KartKing4ever
@KartKing4ever Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is all of these cars are over rated because of Fast and Furious. Mainly the first two movies.
@unknownguy1123
@unknownguy1123 Жыл бұрын
The US spec e36 M3 did not had the proper M3 engine we received here on Europe. In Europe the car had 286 HP and later got the 3.2L with 320 HP.
@Und34d_R
@Und34d_R Жыл бұрын
I still wouldn''t call these cars overrated. They are overpriced based on supply and demand. Much of the reason they're touted as overrated is simply the passage of time and cheap HP that became prevalent in the 2010s. Just like I wouldn't call a classic 72 Daytona overrated, neither are these. They're now in the category of collectible neo classics and their performance is irrelevant to value.
@LOVE-VIBES-X-PROJECT-CARS
@LOVE-VIBES-X-PROJECT-CARS Жыл бұрын
Nobody would ever compare a Daytona to a tuner car. Yes, they're overrated. They weren't 7 years ago before BaT but now they are. The nsx is the only one that makes sense.
@Und34d_R
@Und34d_R Жыл бұрын
@@LOVE-VIBES-X-PROJECT-CARS
@Und34d_R
@Und34d_R Жыл бұрын
@@LOVE-VIBES-X-PROJECT-CARS how about a hakosuka GTR compared to an R35 GTR. What about a 2000GT compared to an a90 Supra? Are you starting to notice a trend? Comparing 20+ year old performance to a modern car is just outrageously moronic.
@LOVE-VIBES-X-PROJECT-CARS
@LOVE-VIBES-X-PROJECT-CARS Жыл бұрын
@@Und34d_R .....nothing about your counter argument makes sense. Who tf is comparing one of the rarest low number cars in the world to 90s cars. And I never said anything about modern day performance. Hell I never mentioned performance in general 😂
@Und34d_R
@Und34d_R Жыл бұрын
@@LOVE-VIBES-X-PROJECT-CARS it’s comparing an old car that is “slow” by modern terms but insanely expensive because it’s collectible, to a newer faster cheaper option than offers better performance. I wouldn’t expect someone who’s dishonest as yourself to be able to conceptualize the idea that advances in technology make cars faster, but people still pay more for old cars for different reasons.
@rushnerd
@rushnerd Жыл бұрын
Underrated: The MKIII Supra (the same one you wanted in F&F 1) I've been shocked how damn good the car is and how good it looks inside and out. It gets as much attention as a Lambo these days and it's a complete blast to drive. Despite being around 3,500lbs, she's the best handling car I've ever driven by far and the prices are fairly reasonable if you can find a good one. I assume they will be "classics" by the end of the decade.
@erikw792
@erikw792 Жыл бұрын
The MK3 has some of the worst looking taillights of any car. That's my subjective opinion. In terms of objective opinions, it also comes with a so-so engine in the US and weighs more than the MK4. It's not rare because more MK3s were sold than any other Supra. It will never be that collectible. Everyone I've ever met who owned one only bought it because they couldn't afford a MKIV.
@rushnerd
@rushnerd Жыл бұрын
@@erikw792 Bro, almost no one can afford an MKIV. It's still a supra and personally I think the 1989+ plus taillight and center section are just rad, but I do like the unified 80's/90's "taillight strip" look that goes across the whole bumper. I put custom LED boards in mine, it's like Cyberpunk 2077. As for being rare, technically it's not, but I've only seen two others in my entire life and even at car shows I go to I've yet to see one. Everyone talks about them or loves it, but no one actually owns one.
@erikw792
@erikw792 Жыл бұрын
@@rushnerd Definitely not now but I'm talking about 10 years ago when they were going for $20-40k.
@rushnerd
@rushnerd Жыл бұрын
@@erikw792 Yeah I feel that. Also the MkIII went up a lot in value since 2018. They aren't exactly cheap anymore for a nice one and used parts are through the roof even since I bought it.
@erikw792
@erikw792 Жыл бұрын
@@rushnerd That's pretty much every sports car right now and even econoboxes are way up. Cars that would have been $3k about 5 years ago are now going for $7-10k. Definitely in a bubble but I think sports cars are going to keep holding a lot of their gains when the bubble bursts.
@nikm4253
@nikm4253 Жыл бұрын
Good topic. I was a 90s kid so I was a little too young to understand the car culture back then. Too busy playing N64 and riding my bike at the time. Ahh those were the days.
@MaddNomad1015
@MaddNomad1015 Жыл бұрын
I was a 90s kid but was around cars a lot.
@typicalsailor9721
@typicalsailor9721 Жыл бұрын
Great video, it would be nice to have your take on the same subject for the 2000 and 2010 decade
@jamesclegg8204
@jamesclegg8204 Жыл бұрын
I am glad that you aren’t just another old guy saying carb’d muscle cars were the pinnacle of automotive engineering
@nolesy34
@nolesy34 Жыл бұрын
No, thank God, very refreshing
@mboretzki
@mboretzki Жыл бұрын
Well, that M3 is not a very good comparison in your chart. Because you are talking about the U.S. market E36 M3 which was trash. It only had 240 hp and 236 lbs.ft. of torque which is correct. The European M3 made 321 hp and 258 lbs.ft. As you are just talking about U.S. market cars I get your point. Just wanted to clarify for other people that BMW built a better car for us Europeans 😂
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam Жыл бұрын
Yup and even at that time it was named the “best handling car in the world” by some.
@interceptingfist5682
@interceptingfist5682 Жыл бұрын
Of course it makes a good comparison if he's comparing it to other cars that made it to the same country. Get a grip
@7genrallycamry940
@7genrallycamry940 Жыл бұрын
Great video! You make view like Need for Speed HotPursuit 2 game hahaha the car selection menu when you look at the car specs nice 👍🏻 I love it
@az_3kgt714
@az_3kgt714 Жыл бұрын
Tbh you could argue that the Japanese cars performance was underrated. Because they were held back at least to some extent by the gentleman's agreement. Yea they all underrated their numbers but you could Definintly get more out of the engines. But we go with the hard numbers from the time lol.
@Supremxcyxi
@Supremxcyxi Жыл бұрын
People massively exaggerate how high the “gentlemen’s agreement” power figures are. Really they made like 10-20bhp over what they were suppose to which back then was substantial but now we have cars like the new Zupr4 making more to the wheels than it’s rated at the crank. Not to mention nobody keeps these cars stock anyway so it really means nothing.
@LuckyFruitRacing
@LuckyFruitRacing Жыл бұрын
@@Supremxcyxi precisely. Anyone who's driven any generation GTR for example, will know they're extremely underwhelming in the power department.
@AcquiredPrawn49
@AcquiredPrawn49 Жыл бұрын
If he actually used the “brochure” numbers there’s multiple cars on his list that are 276hp, not 300+. And it’s clear to see his bias toward the gtr (being the only one he really points out the gentleman’s agreement on, and also listed at 330 against the Supra 320.)
@TurboNFRStwoK
@TurboNFRStwoK Жыл бұрын
@@AcquiredPrawn49 Sure if he used the Japanese Brochures. All but the GT-R were available here in the US with the HP he stated. He’s from the US and once again the GTR was never sold here so that’s why he mentions the gentleman’s agreement.
@AcquiredPrawn49
@AcquiredPrawn49 Жыл бұрын
@@TurboNFRStwoK if you’re gonna compare the JDM cars, compare the JDM models for all of them, or only talk up the USDM models for better comparison.
@038Dude
@038Dude Жыл бұрын
Man I miss the 90's, what an awesome time that was.
@mezo72271
@mezo72271 Жыл бұрын
3:05 it depends, Craig. An rhd turbo AT was 12000 euros a few years ago in Europe. You could get r32 gtr's for 6000 and r34 gtr for 25000. Looking back with these prices, yes they were cheap.
@Xehemoth
@Xehemoth Жыл бұрын
Dude, im from Alabama and car culture here has always loved japanese cars. I think it was a silent well-known fact they were special for some reason BUT THEN in 2011, we got this BEACON of light that firmly cemented what we already knew. This movie called 200MPH released and we were like fuck it, we gotta sell some kidneys and get us some Toyoda Supers.
@MegasXLR
@MegasXLR Жыл бұрын
Did you just use the sound effects from Need for speed when changing screens :D my man!
@KyrosTheWolf
@KyrosTheWolf Жыл бұрын
In terms of performance American cars have always had the best value for power. The only downside was a) quality, and b) for people outside the US since they only really sold American performance cars IN America
@binskee677
@binskee677 Жыл бұрын
and handling, chassis engineering and the whole suspension construction (not in every car but the cars in those price range)
@xXYannuschXx
@xXYannuschXx Жыл бұрын
Dont forget about handling. The Camaro and Mustang he mentioned both still had solid rear axles. These cars handled horribly.
@binskee677
@binskee677 Жыл бұрын
@@xXYannuschXx yea i drove one, never again. The new mustangs are much better but european and Japanese cars from the 90's are still way ahead imo.
@binskee677
@binskee677 Жыл бұрын
@@xXYannuschXx except the Corvette C8, it's a masterpiece!!
@LuciusNoir
@LuciusNoir Жыл бұрын
Great video Craig!!! 👏🏻 It would be nice in the next time you display metric system too (along side with Imperial), Imperial system is a little tough for people outside America
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam
@KosmicHRTRacingTeam Жыл бұрын
The NSX rips are kind of funny, purely looking at 0-60 and 1/4 times? Yep, have fun in your Mustang. The car is much much deeper than that. and even as a huge Porsche guy, let’s not fool ourselves, the NSX made Porsche, Ferrari, and every other true performance company (not muscle car, drag racing….although The Corvette finally woke up and went mid engine….30 years later) take notice. If one is going to gloss over the mid engine, aluminum body, double wishbone suspension, variable valve high revving (normally aspirated) engine, incredible shifting, NSX just because of 0-60 times, the NSX isn’t the car for you. That being said, if you know much about the NSX, a guy Named Gordon Murray (you may have heard of him) and a Car named the McLaren F1, I think I tend to respect Mr Murray’s opinion of the NSX and he put his money where his mouth was, and still it today. But going back to the NSX performance, it outperformed the much higher priced Ferrari 348, the Porsche 964 (247hp) and Lotus Esprit. Yep, there were muscle cars that were quicker, as was the Supra and a slightly tuned 300zx twin Turbo. But those cars were also quicker than the other MUCH more expensive euro sports cars listed above. In the late 80s and through the 1990s I grew up in a home than had, in chronological order….Merc 190 2.3-16v (wish he would have bought the E30 M3 instead) 911, 300zx twin turbo (tuned by Jim Wolf), Acura NSX, BMW E36 (tuned by Dinan), and CLK55. Out of ALL of those cars, the NSX was the most “special” and it’s not even a close comparison. There was an Indycar driver at the time that we knew that just sold his 300zx TT and got an NSX. Asked why he did it, since his 300 was quicker and made more HP, etc. His answer was pretty simple, “the NSX feels like the closest thing to my race car”. The American cars back then drove like absolute crap, especially braking, Corning and handling. Drag racing? Nope, but the quality was absolute crap.
@pliantimpala7858
@pliantimpala7858 Жыл бұрын
I can't remember where I saw it, but I love the take "Oh your $30,000 Supra you dropped $150,000 into is slightly faster than a $100,000 Lamborghini"
@colind7678
@colind7678 Жыл бұрын
Those numbers don't make any sense.
@nolesy34
@nolesy34 Жыл бұрын
@@colind7678 hes saying yes you can beat a Ferrari with a supra, sure its funny But the engine has been invested in thus making more sense to buy a Ferrari
@colind7678
@colind7678 Жыл бұрын
@Nolesy You don't need to spend 150K into a Supra to beat a Ferrari. That's where the numbers don't make sense. Hell, my AWD, turboed, motor swapped Honda maybe has 30K into it, including buying the car, will beat some Ferraris.
@nolesy34
@nolesy34 Жыл бұрын
@@colind7678 I know this, Fast and furious fans know this Even a 10 year old with a 4 speed hard off the pavement pretending he'd have dads charger because hes got initial suprise knows this But everyone thinks Harrys cost a zillion bucks because Brian bought the shop
@alessandroleins1424
@alessandroleins1424 Жыл бұрын
Hello and greetings from Germany. I liked how you made an objective look on the cars. Of course, for car enthusiasts it is difficult to be objective. So in my opinion you did a good job here. But from my point of view there is something missing. Japanese and European cars are manufactured with a high focus on cornering ability. Usually in the USA there are long straights. But that's not the case in Europe or Japan. Straights are usually short comared to roads in the US and there are a lot of corners in every thinkable condition. As are the racetracks. You know, sports cars are built with the knowledge from race cars. And that is the main reason why European and Japanese sports cars are high priced. The engines and the suspension of the cars were more complicated as for example in the 1994 corvette. The 3000gt for example had not only a 4 wheel drive but also 4 wheel steering. I see that in nascar or drag races, something like that is not needed, but take a look at the nurburg ring or suzuka race track. I think that explains the high price gap between '90s US muscle and import sports cars. Still, thank you for that video!
@juan9798
@juan9798 Жыл бұрын
Great video Craig. I like the brutal honesty in the video. It is what is is. Keep up the great content!!
@jasonmills6150
@jasonmills6150 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed watching you when you were on with DCA. I decided to give you channel a sub.
@davehatzakorzian6994
@davehatzakorzian6994 Жыл бұрын
Hey Craig I'm very curious on your thoughts on the SVT Ford Lightning
@michaelangelo5783
@michaelangelo5783 Жыл бұрын
Haha loading it up at Harry's.
@bassblowbackrecords8932
@bassblowbackrecords8932 Жыл бұрын
Craig "these jdm cars are overrated" my brother you made them overrated
@expeditionjay
@expeditionjay Жыл бұрын
I was into the American muscle scene when the f&f came out so as a matter of pride I , (and many others like me) were very competitive with the Japanese market cars. We had some strong contenders, the ram air Trans Ams and Camaro SS were rated at 320hp and dynoing nearly that at the wheels. Heck, muscle mustangs and fast Ford's magazine famously ripped a 12.9 quarter in an ls1 SS. When the c5 came out in 97 it was world beating on track and strip. Domestics had some strong contenders back in the day. It still amazes me the domestics from that time go so comparatively cheap now.
@jasonosaka
@jasonosaka 10 ай бұрын
Because they’re trash
@SneakerDrawings
@SneakerDrawings Жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying that it's worth what someone will pay. Tired of having to hear people talk about what's over priced and what's not, seems to be a projection of their limited budget for the most part.
@ImInLoveWithBulla
@ImInLoveWithBulla 11 ай бұрын
The thing that broke the Supra mystique for me is when I found out that a turbo 2JZ weighs about the same as a Ford Boss 429 engine. It’s still an amazing piece of engineering, but power density for displacement doesn’t really mean anything if it doesn’t have power density for mass. It reminds me of a comparison I saw between the LS7 and the 4.4 V8 in the then-new M3. The BMW made about the same horsepower from 4.4 as the Chevy did from 7. But the Chevy was physically much smaller, much lighter, made much better torque, and got better mileage and emissions. So which was the better engine? 🤨
@quiksilver1015
@quiksilver1015 Жыл бұрын
Craig showing some love for the 300ZX! Got mine 16 years ago and will never let her go. Anyone looking to get into a JDM car, they're miles behind the others in price still...finicky and a pain to get up to good running condition, yes, but a great looking car and fun once you get all the basic maintenance squared away. Still a head turner to this day, I always get compliments on it.
@interceptingfist5682
@interceptingfist5682 Жыл бұрын
That engine looks like a headache to work on, but a nice car nonetheless
@quiksilver1015
@quiksilver1015 Жыл бұрын
@@interceptingfist5682 absolute PITA 😂 completely over engineered with quite a few useless things that’s most owners delete
@Blue84Stang
@Blue84Stang Жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, how would you rate a '96 Escort Cosworth? 230-ish horsepower, all-wheel drive, 2900lbs, and 0-60 in 5.7 seconds... I know that tuners are now getting over 1000hp versions with various upgrades... but i'm curious what you think..
@Und34d_R
@Und34d_R Жыл бұрын
Probably “overrated” because you can just buy a shitty ass WRX and pretend you’re cool. These arguments are all really dumb. Buy old cars for a reason.
@nonename7869
@nonename7869 Жыл бұрын
I don't think we had those in North America. The Cosworth was in a category with the WRX Impreza and Audi or other rally cars like Lancer. Definitely a rare car and a collectible.
@Blue84Stang
@Blue84Stang Жыл бұрын
@@nonename7869 it wasn't... But, the R32/R34 weren't really, either...
@nonename7869
@nonename7869 Жыл бұрын
@@Blue84Stang he didn't have experience with the Cosworth so he didn't mention it. Pretty difficult to ask someone's opinion on something to compare with hands on experience when they never had it. If he did then I apologize but I feel like he would mention it if he did and it was worth mentioning
@JDMRightHandDrive
@JDMRightHandDrive Жыл бұрын
Great comparison Craig!
@rodomeneses2548
@rodomeneses2548 Жыл бұрын
That intro, felt like I was again 9 playing need for speed
@jamesstewart3771
@jamesstewart3771 6 ай бұрын
My mom got a brand new turbo Supra in 1995 . I was just getting out of high school at time . I was so stoked she was getting it . All my friends said exactly what you where saying “ why doesn’t she get a corvette “. The answer to r that … we have to drive Toyota/Lexus my family has been the south east importer of TOYOTA since 1969.
@JoseMedina-hs9st
@JoseMedina-hs9st Жыл бұрын
And we had the Pontiac Firebird. I know it was. Like the Camaro. But that was a really cool car cause. was like the only last car with pop up headlights.
@randalceniceros8157
@randalceniceros8157 Жыл бұрын
When will you print ECLIPSE apparel?
@hugonubario
@hugonubario Жыл бұрын
all those cars in Canada cost almost twice as much as you mentionned the 97 Supra with taxes was 90 000 back in 97 the 300zx Stealth and RX7 were between 50 000 and 75 000 the NSX 140 000 yup pretty expensive!
@defyyourlogic487
@defyyourlogic487 Жыл бұрын
I don’t really think the Supra is overrated considering the outrageous power potential it had. The r34 and trueno come to mind.
@antoinev8099
@antoinev8099 Жыл бұрын
99.9% of people who buy cars new don't give two shits about the "potential"
@7771ham
@7771ham Жыл бұрын
Man the mr2 didn’t make the Japanese list? they too have gone up a lot!
@hunterbean7953
@hunterbean7953 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you where referencing when you drove the 3000gt's or when they came out, but the last 3000gt came out in 99 with the 3rd gen, with the VR-4 being the twin turbo V6 AWD variant. I would say the 3000gt is an under rated car, mostly because most of them where FWD, but i love those cars, I've owned my 99 for 3 years now and never plan on selling it. overall great video, loved it.
@ianwalters11
@ianwalters11 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to be in your shoes. Here in UK we only had the VR4 spec 3000GT, any cars over here with GTO on the back are Jap import. To find an unmodified car here in the UK is nigh on impossible. Even if it was, I sadly can’t afford one. I’ve been in 300ZX, Impreza, Supra, Evo but never a 3000GT. I nearly bought a MK 3 Supra years ago when I was 19 but the insurance was insane. Love Supra but 3000GT is my dream car, it’s what I’d love to have above ANY other car. I guess the nearest dream car is the Escort Cosworth as I’m a huge Ford fan. But that big Mitsubishi is beautiful. I live the interior and dash too it’s cooler than the Supra or Skyline. I love everything about them. Shame they ever bothered making slower FWD models should have only sold VR4’s. I’m super happy for you as an owner, don’t let her go! I’ve driven lots of them for 1000’s of miles but only on Gran Turismo😂
@ColinStevens
@ColinStevens 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I was highly confused by the year range he threw out. The 99 is my favorite and one car I missed the boat on owning. I followed Altered Atmosphere Performance back in the late 90s/early 00s, as they were one of the main companies building them. You have a true gem. They make some serious power with boost by gear these days. This car was a technological powerhouse far ahead of it's time.
@gnws6
@gnws6 4 ай бұрын
As much as I love the JDM cars of the era, the best bang for the buck going BACK THEN (pre-2003) was the LS1 Z28. If you want a few more ponies while saving a few pounds, pony up a few extra grand for the SS. If you wanted the ultimate in attitude, the WS6 Trans Am was the hot ticket. Mine ran 13.2 bone stock.
@10072018
@10072018 Жыл бұрын
Some of my favorite cars on this list... but he needs to add about a half second on most of the 0-60 times. They are extremely optimistic lol.
@paulbudford
@paulbudford Жыл бұрын
It's very interesting how the price compares. Yet in the U.K. The American cars were about 40% more expensive. I also think we got a more powerful M3.
@Boostedm3nace
@Boostedm3nace Жыл бұрын
I owned 2 sn95 cobras. First one was a 96 Red Coupe, Second was a White 98 Coupe. I was stationed in 29 Palms at the time. I use to run those cars wide open, through the endless desert roads. Very stout engines. They will take all the abuse you can throw at them. I would smoke all the other GT’s on base lol. So many good memories. That feels like a different lifetime ago.
@malcolmszn7490
@malcolmszn7490 Жыл бұрын
When the dealer markup a car 15k and someone buys that’s car is it now worth that markup price because someone was willing to pay it ?
@GreekPower
@GreekPower Жыл бұрын
waiting for the roasting video of cars so i can see how bad my turbo acura legend gets picked on!!!
@andydhillon1977
@andydhillon1977 6 ай бұрын
Interesting discussion. Only disagreement i have is performance isnt just 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. The whole point of the NSX was to prove that a balance of HP, handling, weight, and braking could compete with cars with more power...... and it did.
@kelvinsullivan1126
@kelvinsullivan1126 Жыл бұрын
ultimate rx7 2002 bathurst r just perfect
@olaputsinthamusic4781
@olaputsinthamusic4781 Жыл бұрын
I love The Need for Speed II style. Great video
@Unpopular_Duality.
@Unpopular_Duality. Жыл бұрын
The fast and the furious really fluffed up 90s JDM cars to where they are now. All arguably great cars but vastly over priced due to movie hype and perceived cheap modding costs at that time. Folks to this day still believe they can spend 30k on a JDM or Euro and put a little over 10k to 15k in mods into the car and gap Bugattis and Ferraris like a walk in the park. Thank you fast and the furious... 😮‍💨 Our American cars did very well for that time it's a shame pretty much all of the American muscle has literally disappeared in favor of electric vehicles. The buyers market dictates what will be sold and consumed but lets keep some of our muscle car history in full form at a low capacity for willing buyers.
@Treaxvour
@Treaxvour Жыл бұрын
Nobody is buying electric vehicles, let's be real.
@interceptingfist5682
@interceptingfist5682 Жыл бұрын
Americans wants trucks and SUVS.
@randalceniceros8157
@randalceniceros8157 Жыл бұрын
Bravo! I owned some 15 JDMs Acura Integra 2x TSX Mazda3 626 Accords 3xs Civics 4xs and Eclipse 3xs Infiniti G20T Today dive Eclipse Spyder Won 3 best of shows and entered 1st ever Import Nights Pomona CA
@randalceniceros8157
@randalceniceros8157 Жыл бұрын
Happy Easter
@rileypaterson7117
@rileypaterson7117 Жыл бұрын
Now we need a underrated jdm car list id like to see my 96 gtb legacy on there hehe
@griplimit
@griplimit Жыл бұрын
No S-chassis talk… disappointed 😔 A nimble fully loaded S14 kouki msrp was $22,000
@user-sk4wf3ve6z
@user-sk4wf3ve6z Жыл бұрын
He's talking about overated cars
@k00lkidz4
@k00lkidz4 Жыл бұрын
​@@user-sk4wf3ve6z and s chassis aren't overrated 😂
@user-sk4wf3ve6z
@user-sk4wf3ve6z Жыл бұрын
@@k00lkidz4 they weren't over rated because they were cheap when they came out first and they are still fairly cheap compared to other jdm cars now.i live in Ireland and you can get an s14 for around 20k.rx7's are about 50k and skylines are over 100k,bit of a difference 😂
@k00lkidz4
@k00lkidz4 Жыл бұрын
@@user-sk4wf3ve6z s chassis are still slower than 4th gen camaros, which you can get from 5-10k USD
@DFisk75
@DFisk75 Жыл бұрын
I always wanted a Dodge Stealth RT/TT in black with gray interior. I didn't really like the style of the 3000.
@icmull
@icmull Жыл бұрын
90s were great cause boomers were in their 40s. So they had the money to burn and still wanted fun. Now suvs are doing well cause they are at that age.
@stephaneguichard5197
@stephaneguichard5197 Жыл бұрын
Europe had some of the best engine design in the late 90s as well, besides the e36, Alfa Romeo had the famous v6 busso engine on board of their 147 and gt models, audi released the s3, wv had the golf vr6 and r32, Mercedes had a version of the 190e that killed on the circuit as well
@jaboykingsley5421
@jaboykingsley5421 Жыл бұрын
I love my rx7. I like the way it drives better than all the other jdm legends I’ve been fortunate enough to drive them all. The car was made till 2002 tho and the 95 was the worst year because it got updates in 96-98 and more updates in 99-02. America only got 93-95
@ag4allgood
@ag4allgood Жыл бұрын
I like the way Mazda engineers design their cars. That less is more concept lost on other manufacturers. Currently driving a 2016 MX-5 Club soft top at 2320 pounds the ability to drive this car & have it communicate what is happening at the wheels - incredibly fun. All 155 HP in my relatively stock Miata is over half of what these JDM cars were producing but as a daily drive - not a garage queen - the Miata is hard to beat overall.
@skyl672
@skyl672 2 ай бұрын
I bought my mkiv supra in 2000 used and the owner said he was switching to a e36 M3. Which is interesting because I grew up liking the m3 but switched to Supra solely because of my silly experience with the car in the original need for speed game which nobody really knows today because for most it starts at gran turismo 😅
@POLO-PLAYA
@POLO-PLAYA Жыл бұрын
Nissan 240sx is the most fun car to have as a youngster. I had two of em. 91 and a 93. Preludes were cool too
@mitchelllong5848
@mitchelllong5848 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I like learning about the era before I was alive. I was born in 2003. Didn’t know the NSX was so damn expensive back then. The VR4 is my fav
@sambone8213
@sambone8213 Жыл бұрын
you missed a great decade my friend; Japanese sports cars, rise of the internet, movies & music, overall happy times.
@benmarley3086
@benmarley3086 Жыл бұрын
Same
@35mmballer
@35mmballer Жыл бұрын
Even if you kept in on the america side, it would’ve made total sense to mention the eclipse 2g
@rasjoaoandrebatera
@rasjoaoandrebatera Жыл бұрын
Im loving this channel!!!
@mista414
@mista414 Жыл бұрын
Having never driven any NSX, I feel like the new version would be a better value, especially if prices of the old cars keep going up to where they're comparable. You'd get a nicer, faster car.
@_TheBigMac_
@_TheBigMac_ Жыл бұрын
anyone notice that hes using the nfs underground menu sound for his transitions
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