NEVER trust the police and always film them

I can't believe police are still unlawfully using Section 43. Ridiculous

It's incredible and mind boggling to me that cops in the UK can use Section 43, quite a serious piece of legislation, as a loophole to get the details of anybody they want to and throw your rights out of the window. Crazy.

This is why we must do everything in our power to not fully arm the basic cop.

Section 43 gives them the power to search IF THEY BELIEVE THEY WILL FIND EVIDENCE, it does not give them the right just to have a look to see if they can find something. Being surrounded by people in fancy dress with firearms is enough to have caused you “harassment, alarm or distress”. Therefore the only people breaking the law is the three officers.

Copsplaining at its finest ,it’s reasonable to leave people alone who are not breaking the law .if they missuse section 43 sue them and put in a complaint…simple

The first threatening copper had a pitiful little man bun thing on his head. Says it all really.

Section 43 will go the same way as section 44. All compensation should be paid out of a police officers wages. And the police should be suspended awaiting investigation. NOTE.....never agree with anything the police say...

“We aren’t talking about laws here” - if that’s the case, you have no business there, copper. Jog on.

Unlawful as it gets. No reasonable grounds and section 43 doesn't give them the power to search you to obtain details.

In answer to the police officers question, when do you think was the last time someone lied to him, when was the last time the officer lied to a member of the public? Exactly!

By that officers mentality, noone should do anything , just incase someone else doesnt like it

if they suspect you of being a terrorist under section 43 , they would not approach , just observe , they would call the anti terrorist squad .. liars as always

The clown at the end was more insidious than the clueless original man-bun cop, trying to make out the cameraman is being unreasonable and 'asking' - or intimidating, as others would see it. How about being reasonable by respecting people's rights and not trying to invoke terrorism legislation after admitting they knew he was not a terrorist. He was also trying to make out taking pictures is a bit odd but I think a bloke in his late 40s with a man-bun is odder but we don't see anyone demanding he goes home and gives himself a haircut (and probably a decent wash, the scruffy herbert).

If the police officer DOESN'T suspect you of being a terrorist then isn't he admitting to MISUSING the terrorism act ?!!😂

You should take this further. No grounds for section 43.

More inept, bad policing, abusing their powers, sickening. Can you imagine the mentality of a police officer who says ''We aren't talking about laws'', .. this 3rd officer to arrive talks 100% nonsense, he needs to be re-trained and learn the law.

The reason for security being concerned is their own lack of knowledge. What is reasonable is that they somehow get educated.

The last cop needs to have some respect for his real employer’s the public. To stand there and waffle rubbish is the biggest disrespect

Another hefty compensation pay out due from the police. They'll struggle to justify the use of that section in court. Those cops were clearly struggling to justify themselves.

Misuse of S43.......doesn't know what he's talking about. He'd be struggling with a Section 1 PACE! Rubbish about looking at your pictures....he's in the wrong country! Plus your being overt. Hope you report the idiot. I think he needs to look it up on Google. They're just jumped up about their own powers and need some retraining. I love the attempt to justify "being reasonable"!

Overuse of section 43 will end up getting it removed from legislation, then the real men with back packs arrive.

Section 43 doesn't mean you have to identify..

Unbelievable the standard of policing, the arrogance of these 3 officers is dragging us into a police state where they make it up as they go along.

"We're not talking about rules at the moment..." Because they make "rules" up as they go along?? If it's that much of a sensitive site why don't they geofence it?

Suspicion isn't a crime these officers need to be retrained. The bullying and intimidation was terrible, please keep reporting on crown employees over stepping there.

Obviously he searched you to get an ID. . Looks like an easy claim. Speak to HNK solicitors for a decent payout. Section 43 reads: "A constable may stop and search a person whom he reasonably suspects to be a terrorist to discover whether he has in his possession anything which may constitute evidence that he is a terrorist." No mention of reading SD cards or such. Constable needs to have reasonable suspicion. None of that in your video. Don't bother with making a complaint - that will go nowhere. . I have no experience or connection with HNK, but both Auditing Britain and Marti have used them to get very reasonable payouts. Let us know how you get on with this, thank you.

Beardy says were not talking about laws, well we should be, if you don't want drones flying over your property petition parliament and get them to make it illegal 😮

Security guards trying to preach drone laws to a drone pilot and……getting it all wrong. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

A disraceful abuse of authority. And that copper who is trying to justify his mate's misconduct is the most patronising piece of slime.

That so called Police officer makes my blood boil! Sue, Sue Sue! All about the Ego and a small pric.

These two ‘officers’ have absolutely no clue what they are talking about. It’s infuriating. Absolute clowns 🤡

A copper with a hair bun.........this is England in 2023......

The only way to stop this BS happening is to make a formal complaint. Get some good legal advice also. They continue to make lawful activities and hobbies seem Illegal so they can mis-use the terrorism act when in reality the people that they should be using this act on they leave alone and that is why this country is FUBAR!

Where was the sincere apology from the police when they find out they are wrong? No it doesn’t exist. Abuse people and walk away.

Usual intimidation tactics, yes it is concerning if sensitive information can be seen from a public road, so they should really change that

the gap between the police and public grows ever wider

Silly sausage 😂 That’s the loosest grounds I have seen, his attitude is shocking. He knows you are not a terrorist but he’s willing to misuse powers to try and identify you. Would have been an easy claim.

"We have to attend every 999 call. That's a lie for a start.

After all the cases of Section 43 misuse over the last few years…..it’s hard to believe that this can still happen.

No laws broken no crimes commited

Even the nice copper was talking complete and utter bollocks and was making up 'laws' as he went along

That clown is in big trouble. Section 43 with no grounds 😂 what a muppet . Can’t stand the state of the police

What a load of bollocks, they just twist and contradict all the time.

man bun.. lol first sign of a psychopath …

I bet that copper gets lied to everyday. After all he hangs around all day with other coppers.

Has to have reasonable grounds to search under S43 don’t make a complaint make a civil claim. Also when he mentions Stop & Search you need to ask if you’re being detained. Stop and Search is totally different to S43.

WOW - straight to section 43 - didn't even introduce himself properly with his name, rank & number - no wonder he is hiding his face - he doesn't know the law or how to investigate - too used to bullying & intimidating the general public who are going about their lawful activities.

PLEASE UPDATE when you can because, once again, total abuse of section 43!!!! Wow 😢

You handled this very well. They should be investigating a wasted 999 call.

Disgraceful.....A complaint needs to be made.

Jeez, cops that are upholding feelings rather than the law. Pathetic. It doesn't matter what the police constitute as reasonable, it matters what the law is. They're job is to uphold it. So if a business is having kittens about it then they need to be educated on the law.

Armed Jimmy Bullard

Please, please in future ask them what the 'reasonable' part of the 'reasonable suspicion' is. That's the important part to me. Almost all of our laws are based on reasonable suspicion, not just suspicion. They have to articulate it. Just being in possession of a camera/drone is NOT a reasonable suspicion, especially if it's backed up with an explanaton. Suspicion is an opinion without any facts.

Police covering their face needs to stop immediately. I advise you sue them you can claim several thousand pounds. Terrorism search has to be authorised by higher

More police abuse of section 43. I would sue.

The police policing a companies feelings instead of the law again. He's so patronising when he says "Surely you can see my point about why they'd be concerned about you flying a drone over their building". Sure, so go tell them he's not breaking any law and is in public. Jog on.

What law have I broken ? None, In that case I'm invoking my right to silence.

If there is a risk created by a drone flying over a building - then they can justify an arrangement for a no fly zone. If there’s no restriction, then we’re just dealing with paranoia!!

Please go back !! And please sue them

another 2k for you. gz!

Wow. Did you see how casually he used 43 there? Total abuse of power

Their job is to enforce the law, not enforce what they think the law should be.

Oh dear! An expensive stop? 🙄🙄🤡🤡😁😁😂🤣

I hope you dont drop this matter ,the more we complain the more its brought up at a higher level and gets dealt with like section 44 did and a bloke of his age should not have a man bun,little man complex power hungry twot.

That officer should uncover his face and he is committing an offence too. He should not be an armed officer. His reasoning is irrational as well as unlawful.

Shocking behaviour by bun hairdo. I’d complain. Wonder what’s in there??

To use Section 43 they must have PROBABLE CAUSE.

First copper was an arse trying to be authoritarian an not investigating properly & miss using the law.

the contact is warranted , but the threats of section 43 and accusing people of being a terrorist is just not required and should never be a part of this contact !!! . take names and badge numbers and sue the crap out of them !!!!!, hostile reconnaissance is in of itself a covert act , those are not my words , those are the polices word they put out in a memo !!!!!. you dont need a reason to fly over that particular building , if it was really that sensitive , they would control the airspace over it too !!!!

“We have a duty to attend 999 calls”. Funny that, cos I’m still waiting for them to come for my XR2 that was stolen from Blackpool in 1997!! 🤬

Gang sign visible. That's all you need to know.

Pure filth

After coming up to arrest you under the Terrorism Act all hard-headed aggressively, then it came to at about 13m10s, ''let's rewind'' this conversation. THEY KNEW they were beat. Very well done in teaching them the Law.

The Copper needs GROUNDS! - Grounds is NOT Suspicion! Suspicion is merely an Opinion, Grounds needs HARD EVIDENCE!

Some copplaining going on there😂😂😂 The 3 stooges. First cop straight into overreach, senior cop knows it.. Every auditor should now visit this.

Never listen to a man with a bun on his head...

I think a good questions to have been asked here was ‘what if a group from a photography club - say 15 - 20 people - were walking through the industrial park together, with tripods and cameras,(and maybe drones) taking photos as part of a club project’. Would he suspect them all of terrorism and search them all? What did he say ? “You cannot predict the actions of a terrorist”. So if he’s set a precedent of searching a single photographer he would have to search them all. Who knows what clandestine intentions such a group may have? And what better way to disguise themselves, than in plain sight, as a harmless group of photographers? Maybe the Government should make it law that all terrorists carrying out hostile surveillance should wear a hi vis jacket stating TERRORIST, to differentiate them from the legal photographers.

The top cop was talking about "all about respect" with the drone pictures, I cannot remember anyone asking me for permission about the satellite that took images of my back garden. Police just want to stick with the big companies against the one man band. What's good for them is good for us all.

I've watched this 4 times. The goons with guns never listen. They seem to believe that if they keep telling you stuff you'll let them off trying to intimidate. Idiots.

I’d be tempted to video the place on a regular basis just to prove a point

I can hear AB shouting what's your reasonable grounds

Abuse of sec 43 report and sue he needs a warrant to search the camera! Blue line gang patch members who’d of thought it..

Congratulations brother!!! So happy for you and please keep us posted on the process and outcome of this lawsuit/settlement!!!! You really lucked out with one this treasonous and incompetent and have earned this payday major!!!! Hahahahaha

Not giving ID in itself not reasonable grounds for suspicion.

Under section 43 if the filth wants to serach you, the little piggy has to say what he expects to find in relation to terrorism

Again. More shameful behaviour from the publics police service.

Is that the ammunition building in a busy industrial estate surrounded by housing..

Sue the coward face covering criminals.

Doesn't matter if he has asked him not to fly over no legal right he can fly over the building. Ffs

the lawsuit will be good to see

Misuse of the terrorism act. They need to start sacking them.

By the time you got to the third cop, you should have said “am I being detained, if so, what crime have I committed?” If they said no, you should have walked away from these copsplaining 🛎️🔚s. With them telling you not to do it again, I would then have gone straight back and done it again. The days of cops telling you to “move along” are long gone.

Understanding why the police comes is one thing...we all get that - BUT police trying to make me "understand that I should not take photos" (even if it is legal) is stretching police powers way too far.

A 999 call? they should be arrested for wasting police time.

Found the police response over the top, and very authorities, report to professional standards or they will carry on deeper down this slippery slope.

The second coppers logic is flawed as he is working on feelings as usual. Also, if they want privacy they have to create it themselves.

Omg the lies just oozed out of him. Abuse of 43 again. Complaint made ? His superiors need to stop his false actions and the patronising one at end

Criminalising a legal activity 😢

uk cops so corrupt now days