Crazy Zoom Court #7 - CPS Fail

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2 жыл бұрын

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@debrastarr8436
@debrastarr8436 2 жыл бұрын
As a licensed foster parent in CA I can tell you that CPS/CFS is a nightmare to work with. I personally had a social worker tell me if I “made too many waves” when I asked for a copy of the placement agreement, which they had not yet given me for a child already in my care at the time, I would have that child (who happened to be my 18 mo. old grandson) removed and placed with someone “more cooperative”. After one child was reunited with their parent for over two months, I had a social worker show up at my house asking to see the child to check on their welfare. They didn’t even know where the child was. I could tell you story after story. And you wouldn’t believe half of them. This was NOT an accident. At all.
@allisonjames2923
@allisonjames2923 2 жыл бұрын
That’s terrible. What is so wrong with the system?
@debrastarr8436
@debrastarr8436 2 жыл бұрын
@@allisonjames2923 If we only knew the answer to that question, we would know what to fix. Some say it’s the caseload and the fact that there aren’t enough workers to do the job properly. Others say is the lack of work ethic and oversight of those doing the job. And still others say it’s the bureaucracy itself that ties the hands of those working within the system. I personally think it’s a combination of all of the above. And it’s inexcusable. The one place no society should ever fail is with the protection of its children.
@HellenaHanbasquet
@HellenaHanbasquet 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in Nebraska and a friend of mine fosters. She says the same thing here We are an extremely small tight knit community and my friend was the best possible placement for some siblings who lived here and were put in her care...she's an amazing mom and a Gulf War Vet, 100% integrity, gentile but firm discipline, she also worked for the school and was one of a small handful I would trust with my disabled daughter. I can't say enough about her. Anyway She was told the same thing about making waves. She wasn't getting reports and authorizations she needed, she was reporting the parents for failures and was told to "stop being so picky". These three were eventually pulled from her care because she was "too much", they were separated and sent to different cities. One is a friend of my son and has since attempted suicide 3 times because of the care he's recieving, one was abused and malnourished in a "suitable home"and one was returned to the parents who never got off drugs. I have 3 friends who all worked for CPS and all three quit and went to private companies because of how awful the system is run. It's a systemic problem and it's not a single state. It makes me sick.
@debrastarr8436
@debrastarr8436 2 жыл бұрын
@@HellenaHanbasquet What a horrible set of circumstances. That breaks my heart. The one social worker I worked with on the foster parent side that I actually respected for being amazing at her job and supportive of our efforts just called me last month to say goodbye because she quit. It made me so sad because she was literally the only person I could count on who actually did her job really well. The good ones usually burn out. Who wouldn’t with what they see going on around them on a daily basis. There have been so many instances of CPS/CFS not doing their job which has resulted in a child’s death that I am surprised the entire system isn’t completely overhauled and taken over by the federal government. Not that the fed is much better. Multiple workers here in California faced criminal charges for their reckless disregard for the safety of a child in their care when his parents beat him to death him after he was returned to them with no follow through by the agency and multiple calls from concerned neighbors and teachers were ignored. I don’t know why people get into this line of work if they don’t want to do what’s necessary to do the job. Or why the state doesn’t provide more funding when this is so much more important than so many other things. A society that doesn’t protect its children is doomed.
@TomCooperBHG
@TomCooperBHG 2 жыл бұрын
What’s wrong? It’s impossible for the state to do what God designed the family to do. In addition, dysfunctional parents make it hard for reunification. The workers are low paid & have to deal with a lot of cases. That said, in my experience, no one wants to “make waves”, they lie to kids, and unless someone pressures DCS, GALs, the lawyers & judges to take action, everything “floats along”. It’s maddening.
@smoorej
@smoorej 2 жыл бұрын
When you keep the judge and a bunch of others waiting an hour and a half and the first thing he does is very calmly ask you to spell your full name you can be sure it’s not because he’s adding you to his holiday card list.
@ONeil-S.D
@ONeil-S.D Жыл бұрын
Very true 👍 😆 🤣 😂
@scottmccrea1873
@scottmccrea1873 Жыл бұрын
Even then the arrogance in the supervisor's voice was astonishing. As if they were both "protected by the Prince of Darkness" himself.
@Tammohawk1
@Tammohawk1 2 жыл бұрын
CPS failed to appear? Holy cow! I thought at first it was parents who were late. This is scary stuff. Very scary.
@user-du3dz9rt1w
@user-du3dz9rt1w 6 ай бұрын
LOL. About time they get a taste of their own medicine.
@larrywells7692
@larrywells7692 4 ай бұрын
Most of those state institutions, through out the country, are a joke. The "Employees" and "Clients" are one-in-the-same.
@gregoryclark7566
@gregoryclark7566 2 жыл бұрын
The Judge caught them in a contemptible lie. They deserve the fines and also deserve arrest if there is further lateness or failure to appear to court proceedings. This Judge saw right through the charade.
@pinksugarcookies71
@pinksugarcookies71 2 жыл бұрын
During quarantine all of the elderly people in our church were able to log onto zoom meetings. No computer experience so this is absolutely ridiculous. These people are supposed to be for the children but clearly they are not. Kudos to the judge
@cowcatcher9186
@cowcatcher9186 2 жыл бұрын
I love it when people are held accountable. Especially when they are some sort of “authority”.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
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@stygianindustries8295
@stygianindustries8295 Жыл бұрын
@@LawTalkWithMike can you check out the video I posted on my channel of DHR illegally removing my daughter from our home.
@cleobinx
@cleobinx Жыл бұрын
Me too! This was great !
@xxskizzumxx
@xxskizzumxx Жыл бұрын
@@stygianindustries8295 no
@stygianindustries8295
@stygianindustries8295 Жыл бұрын
@@xxskizzumxx no what
@judithharley9236
@judithharley9236 2 жыл бұрын
I worked for CPS in Ohio in the 90s and spent a lot of time in court as I was on the team investigating cases potentially headed to criminal court. I can’t even imaging disrespecting the judge and the court in that manner. That was crazy. We would have been fired the first time and we didn’t have the luxury of Zoom court. Being charged with Contempt of Court? I would have dug a hole and pulled the dirt back in on top of myself. Never. It’s just not done.
@jacksyoutubechannel4045
@jacksyoutubechannel4045 Жыл бұрын
The worst thing I've seen since all this went online was Concho Valley. The CPS worker directed the foster family who was hoping to adopt to be in charge of coordinating reunification therapy (including picking the therapist) with the biological father who was late-added to the case. This was a young man with a stable job, a home, a car & license, no substance or violence issues, and who wanted custody of his son. Oh, and the reason the father was late-added? First, his ex-partner hid the pregnancy and child from him until the CPS termination case. She never actually told him, but she did give his name and information so he could be served. Then the CPS worker *averred that he had been served, though she had not done so.* For multiple hearings, it was believed he had merely been non-responsive to the summons. For the life of me, I can't remember how he ultimately found out. It may have been that he was appointed an attorney, even though he wasn't present, and the attorney reached out. I think, if he wanted to sue, he'd have textbook grounds to knock down qualified immunity. I think it's fair to say that CPS worker violated a clearly established right of which a reasonable person would have known -- the right to be served, and not have the worker lie and say she'd served you, when she hadn't. (She actually got a 5th amendment warning in her final day of testimony, when Father's attorney was questioning her in this area.)
@AuthenticallyAlvarez
@AuthenticallyAlvarez Жыл бұрын
Haha. CPS in Ohio most definitely isn't like that anymore😂 They are the most incompetent people I've ever seen. They are removing kids to keep them in the downtown building because they have no placements and the kids are severely neglected, placed into worse homes than what they were removed from. Cps can't keep an employee longer than a couple months because they are so ass backwards and disorganized and corrupt. It's disgusting.
@Jennylouise87
@Jennylouise87 2 жыл бұрын
Also it's scary that these two disrespectful and immature people are in charge of deciding if a parent can keep their child or not! If they dare do this in court, lord knows what they've done with families. It's very telling and I hope they consider a different career choice or are forced to.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@peope1976
@peope1976 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. But what should one expect when the people don't want to pay for good CPS services? If you are buying dollarstore CPS you get dollarstore quality CPS.
@skirmishofwit
@skirmishofwit 2 жыл бұрын
This is the juvenile detention docket for the 323 district court. Judge Porter is one of the associate judges. I watch these detention dockets every day. Judge Kim (the main judge) is fantastic, too. And Lateph is the child's lawyer, Lateph Adeniji (not sure how it's spelled).
@Raccoon_Mama.
@Raccoon_Mama. 2 жыл бұрын
My brother is the head of CPS over a large section of my state (Virginia) and I can tell you he would NEVER do this or put up with it out of his social workers! There are some really good ones but ALOT of bad ones.......but
@samuelcalkin3516
@samuelcalkin3516 2 жыл бұрын
@@peope1976 If they got more money, the only difference is these jerks would just get paid more to be jerks.
@McBeelzebub
@McBeelzebub 2 жыл бұрын
I was all, “I’m not sure if they’re being jerks or are just incompetent,” right up until the judge quoted that 93 minutes figure AND mentioned they’d already missed another appearance that same day. Just amazing, but not the good kind of amazing, like you’d want!
@lolaeudy8316
@lolaeudy8316 2 жыл бұрын
CPS let minor stay in detention because they "couldn't" find a placement for him. Totally unacceptable.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@dennisberman4640
@dennisberman4640 2 жыл бұрын
Treat a court hearing this way ??? Imagine how they threat the people they have authority over. Sickening.
@Esther-lm6pm
@Esther-lm6pm 9 ай бұрын
Should have lost the job and be unable to work in this type of position ever
@kimcrawford5247
@kimcrawford5247 2 жыл бұрын
If that was me I would have tested the zoom about a hundred times to make sure I was all set for court. Unbelievable!
@mindybunny
@mindybunny 2 жыл бұрын
I do that just for my work meetings. I can’t imagine acting the way they did if it was for court!
@mandi7384
@mandi7384 2 жыл бұрын
My son has therapy 2 times a month and we set up everything an hour ahead. Just incase the computer wants to update or do something crazy. We log in atleast 25 minutes ahead and wait until we are let in. My 7 year old can log into zoom and his classes himself. This is just crazy to me.
@Dusty_Den
@Dusty_Den Жыл бұрын
That's what I do as a student! Way lower stakes!
@kevinbarksdale7897
@kevinbarksdale7897 2 жыл бұрын
Adding insult to injury the judge said that was the second time that CPS officials failed to appear for a court hearing THAT DAY. Makes me wonder how many times they had failed for the week, the month, the year???
@j3ttagrl420
@j3ttagrl420 2 жыл бұрын
going to court is one of the most nerve-wracking things I've ever done. I can't imagine disrespecting the judge on purpose! 😬
@destroyerinazuma96
@destroyerinazuma96 2 жыл бұрын
True. Usually, one wouldn't want to be in court period (nothing against government employees, but is just too much stress imho even for civil matters where you won't get fined or go to jail).
@mircat28
@mircat28 2 жыл бұрын
Well people kill people for stupid reasons so why can't you imagine people disrespecting a judge which is a lesser evil?
@j3ttagrl420
@j3ttagrl420 2 жыл бұрын
@@mircat28 I can imagine people doing it, I can't imagine doing it myself. do you know what I mean?
@isallah1kafir196
@isallah1kafir196 2 жыл бұрын
@island girl *maybe* these people are more often in court so to them it is not such a big deal... if they did it on purpose....
@JiveDadson
@JiveDadson 2 жыл бұрын
Racking. It's nerve-racking. A rack is a torture device. I am pedant.
@kandygallaway9825
@kandygallaway9825 2 жыл бұрын
93 minutes is beyond ok. Even an average person would have hussled to figure out the issue and called in or something. I agree with you, it is just disrespect.
@Tker1970
@Tker1970 2 жыл бұрын
I saw this live and thought it was a parent that couldn't log in. When I realized it was CPS, I knew it was something passive aggressive. They are upset with something Judge Kim did previously.
@BillViets
@BillViets 2 жыл бұрын
The attorney whose first name is Lateph is truly a good guy. He does some court appointed defense work and is always very calm and helpful.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
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@botchamania4vid
@botchamania4vid 2 жыл бұрын
I live in the DFW area. Had family members that had to deal with these people. It was a nightmare. They put the kids in the worst situation possible. Just mind boggling stuff.
@heatherleighartistry
@heatherleighartistry 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the most caring judges have no patience for immature incompetence and I love it
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
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@dagfincarp1113
@dagfincarp1113 2 жыл бұрын
This is what the judiciary is for. Making sure everybody including gov't offices and employees are following the rules. This is a good video for regular citizens to see.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You and I agree
@darrinlindsey
@darrinlindsey 2 жыл бұрын
Can you give me an explanation of the definition of irregular citizens?
@lord.have.myrcene
@lord.have.myrcene 2 жыл бұрын
@@darrinlindsey I think they mean people who aren't in the law space or know the court system. Regular citizens
@Cameron_F
@Cameron_F 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen some scary CPS related stuff since they started streaming on KZfaq. Including perjury from this agency in Concho County Texas including forging signatures on documents. This was at multiple trials where the state was seeking termination of the parents rights! I was so happy when I saw Judge Porter do this.
@j3ttagrl420
@j3ttagrl420 2 жыл бұрын
that is scary!!
@tk.gaines
@tk.gaines 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely 200% least trustworthy people you'll ever deal with
@cyberus1438
@cyberus1438 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don’t know what the hell started it but CPS is across the board crazier than the VA can be
@Cameron_F
@Cameron_F 2 жыл бұрын
@@cyberus1438 I personally believe that one of the issues is having for profit agencies involved. Sets up the wrong incentive structure.
@cyberus1438
@cyberus1438 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cameron_F will agree that in cases where only the state has the right to manage rights, so prisons and CPS would both fit
@ouarkie
@ouarkie 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! This Judge laid down the law. $186 is not a whole lot of money, but it’s the principal. Both the “specialists” and supervisor. Then made it due by 1700, that gives them less than 2 hours to get to the courthouse. I have no idea if they are in the same building or vicinity, but that is awesome. I would love, love, love to see a SOVCIT try their crap with this Judge. Congratulations on reaching 25k Mike. It won’t be long until you are over 100k. Thank you for posting.
@vickilynn0214
@vickilynn0214 Жыл бұрын
I love it when a judge finally tells people that they have to come into the court physically, and they just look stymied. 👌
@cdt996
@cdt996 2 жыл бұрын
I watch Judge Kim and Porter’s courts quite a bit and they have had a lot of issues with CPS even doing show causes for contempt, so I agree with your assessment.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
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@sallyskellington3024
@sallyskellington3024 2 жыл бұрын
I've worked with CPS, not for just with, when I worked in eligibility for welfare. They did fire one worker who would pull similar things. She also hid some reports of abuse behind her desk so that she could go home early. The judge held that information against them and fined them even after she was fired. They vetted thier employees a lot better after that. It's a tough job, but it is a Vital one as it involves children and the children's entire life. Stay Sexy Mike!❤🍀🤗
@RyanREAX
@RyanREAX 2 жыл бұрын
Then the kids get put in abusive foster homes also
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
Yup🤦‍♂️
@MelanaC
@MelanaC 2 жыл бұрын
When I have a Zoom call, I try about 15 mins early and enter the room to make sure that I’m in the right place. Then I have my phone next to me just incase. I had a hospital zoom today at 11am and I was ready at 10.15am. I tried the service at 10.15am and saw it was working and then I was poised and ready when I reconnected again at 10.50am! I would rather wait for meetings to open than be late!!! Shockingly disrespectful!!!
@JacaboBlanco
@JacaboBlanco 2 жыл бұрын
Also, you simply look professional when you are there early and before others. It's just common sense and decency
@paulabenson8675
@paulabenson8675 2 жыл бұрын
@@JacaboBlanco It is shocking and disheartening to me just how disrespectful so many people have become. What is happening to our society when decency is so hard to find?
@savetheengines
@savetheengines 10 ай бұрын
GO GET 'EM JUDGE!!!!!! It's time that CPS gets held accountable for their lack of services!!!!
@Faith-pi8ci
@Faith-pi8ci 2 жыл бұрын
As someone that is currently employed by CPS (In Texas) I can say this is outrageous, hopefully they will be removing their badges any time soon.
@andrewdias478
@andrewdias478 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine you need a lot of mental strength and a strong gut to work that kind of job. I cant imagine the sh*t you have seen working for CPS.
@martinmicheal4595
@martinmicheal4595 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewdias478 how can you work for such a crooked organization that steals kids from family’s most of the time.
@MesoCarib
@MesoCarib 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewdias478 Yeah, I'm guessing Faith sees different types of scary stuff from those in the video. Faith probably does not see stuff like laptops circling for 93 minutes.
@spartafly3014
@spartafly3014 2 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who is CPS in Arkansas. If the way their IT systems are handled (she is in a rural area) is only remotely similar to TX, then what CPS did was only trying to stall things there. My friend's suspicion is that they are trying to hide some major cockups.
@urielgrey
@urielgrey 2 жыл бұрын
This makes total sense
@allisonjames2923
@allisonjames2923 2 жыл бұрын
Not going to work for long though when they’ve got a judge who can order them to be in court in person & issue a warrant to ensure it 🤷‍♀️
@jupiter.6268
@jupiter.6268 3 ай бұрын
Spread the word...the children need PROTECTION FROM CPS. MOSTLY FROM THE DESTRUCTION THEY DO ! NO HELP FROM THEIR ABUSE! THE TRUTH IS STARTING TO COME OUT!
@doug3512
@doug3512 2 жыл бұрын
How can CPS have such a breakdown of their relationship with the court?!? It's shocking. They have a vested interest in maintaining a strong working relationship with the court in order to serve the children they are there to protect. And these two clowns are playing dumb games instead of doing their jobs.
@Gwentheferret
@Gwentheferret Жыл бұрын
Because (unfortunately) those two are the kind of people that only care about power and/or themselves. They consider their job duties as inconveniences to be skirted whenever possible.
@user-du3dz9rt1w
@user-du3dz9rt1w 6 ай бұрын
Arrogance at its finest..
@alisontheanimal4009
@alisontheanimal4009 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike. The accusation that has come up before is that OCOK (Which is part of CPS) doesn’t show up for court when they think they will have to pick up a child that they don’t want to. I get the impression that in the past kids that were in custody were left there as a last priority for the department. I watch the 323rd almost every day, there incompetence is insane, I’ve seen worse then this.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
Then they have to go🤦‍♂️
@allisonjames2923
@allisonjames2923 2 жыл бұрын
That’s awful. Poor kids
@LetsLaugh2Getha
@LetsLaugh2Getha 2 жыл бұрын
The man that was trying to help them get signed on is Attny Lateph Adoneji.
@autumnrene807
@autumnrene807 2 жыл бұрын
Where and how do you watch it? I have no idea how to find it
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
🤦‍♂️
@sherimcdaniel3491
@sherimcdaniel3491 Жыл бұрын
YOU TELL EM, Judge!!!! The dead silence on the line was deafening!
@shanesawhutchison9255
@shanesawhutchison9255 2 жыл бұрын
Wow…what blatant disrespect…and don’t even get me started about entrusting children to the “Judgment” of imbeciles. Thanks for that one Mike and congratulations on 25,000!!!. 🇨🇦
@jimsackmanbusinesscoaching1344
@jimsackmanbusinesscoaching1344 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny. I have run an IT company and I use Zoom in my business all the time. I log in several minutes early and verify my setup all the time. I have 3 devices that I can use, with one preferred over the others. It is not that hard. My son is in the Army and they certify them for everything (like even driving). They don't bother certify them for Teams.
@JacaboBlanco
@JacaboBlanco 2 жыл бұрын
It's so damn easy. Preparation. Just like you would in ANY other professional situation. It's unbelievable.
@cyberus1438
@cyberus1438 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest fuck up I’ve ever had with zoom is forgetting to take my last name out of an instance where I would not have wanted it displayed and I’m not all that smart. It’s a pretty easy program
@jimsackmanbusinesscoaching1344
@jimsackmanbusinesscoaching1344 2 жыл бұрын
@@cyberus1438 I used to have a microphone that occasionally wanted to transmit at double speed. So, I always test audio and video quality pre-call.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
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@hildia5439
@hildia5439 2 жыл бұрын
I'm the same way. Especially for court. This is important.
@williamroberts6803
@williamroberts6803 Жыл бұрын
Love this judge and love the court order to appear before this judge you don’t think you have to answer to. I hope you get some time in jail for contempt.
@nate18268
@nate18268 2 жыл бұрын
They should have called the main court clerk's office and told them they were having problems logging in, at the very least
@jmommy881
@jmommy881 2 жыл бұрын
Ooohhhhhh I watched this one just a little bit ago and I was thinking of you the whole time!!!!! Judge Porter killed it he was not playing to be such an outstanding advocate for these youths its just absolutely amazing to see... I am loving this judge he's like a Middleton/Bryant combo!!!!!
@stephanepainchaud9866
@stephanepainchaud9866 2 жыл бұрын
100% Agreed
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
I like him a lot as well. I just don’t do stuff involving children and that is his call. I handled a juvenile call as a young prosecutor and it takes an emotional toll.
@stephanepainchaud9866
@stephanepainchaud9866 2 жыл бұрын
@@LawTalkWithMike I know exactly what you mean Mike ! Have a great day my Friend
@pdsalerno0604
@pdsalerno0604 2 жыл бұрын
Good example of a basic failure. CPS is failing, and though, yes, we can blame lack of funding and support, the job is vital and showing up to court is easier than just about any other aspect of the job.
@moosecat
@moosecat 2 жыл бұрын
CPS can sing the "Lack of Funding Blues" all they want, but my nearly 10-year-old desktop and 7-year-old laptop function on ZOOM fairly well, and I would be willing to wager serious money that CPS is using newer devices than mine.
@voiceofreason9238
@voiceofreason9238 2 жыл бұрын
@@moosecat I'll take that wager. I know that in my state when Windows 7 was the newest version, CPS was running on Windows 95. It was easy to out-type the computer's capability to put the letters on the screen because the system was so slow.
@really5448
@really5448 2 жыл бұрын
@@moosecat you can use Zoom on your cell phone if your computer isn’t working.
@Faith-pi8ci
@Faith-pi8ci 2 жыл бұрын
@@moosecat I'll take it too, my laptop is over 10 years old (But zoom works perfectly fine tho!)
@moosecat
@moosecat 2 жыл бұрын
@@Faith-pi8ci I have had an amateur (ham) radio license for nearly 40 years. Rule #1 of hand radio: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 😀
@cellytron
@cellytron Жыл бұрын
“We were trying!” “Not very hard.” SNAAAAP
@tcurry1531
@tcurry1531 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct in that citizens are fed up with the incompetency of government workers and the criminal acts they do and don't pay for.
@jocktulloch3499
@jocktulloch3499 2 жыл бұрын
CPS forgot "the dog ate our summons, and I have a note from my mother."
@othertalk3313
@othertalk3313 2 жыл бұрын
Never has the term "herding cats" been more appropriate than in the Zoom era of human existence. And I don't even blame the cats... it's usually their first time doing anything like this, while the judge and attorneys have done this a thousand times, so of course they get frustrated.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@RyanBlackhawke
@RyanBlackhawke 2 жыл бұрын
They could have rehearsed and researched how to do all the things in zoom beforehand. And they should know their phone well enough to figure out how to keep from muting your phone. Usually, you just have to turn the volume up. In this case, the people were CPS which means they certainly knew how to work the technology because no doubt they hold meetings on a daily basis.
@othertalk3313
@othertalk3313 2 жыл бұрын
@@RyanBlackhawke Yeah I agree in this case with a CPS worker who should know. But most times these issues happen with just some random defendant who has probably never had to use Zoom or anything similar before, and they're already nervous about being in court.
@DNPaterson
@DNPaterson 2 жыл бұрын
@@RyanBlackhawke For people who aren't familiar with technology it can be pretty daunting trying to get round problems. There aren't any easy to read guides to figuring out why things don't work, and solutions like "we're in the wrong meeting" aren't always obvious.
@RyanBlackhawke
@RyanBlackhawke 2 жыл бұрын
@@DNPaterson "zoom 101" is a great search term and I got loads of easy-to-read instructions and was able to make sure everything was in place for my appointment.
@ItIsJustJudy
@ItIsJustJudy 2 жыл бұрын
I had to teach all last year via Zoom. It’s set up so easily. These two deserved what they got. Holy mackerel…the children deserve better.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@glynncordry5965
@glynncordry5965 2 жыл бұрын
Two years of online classes, and I still have students who just attend classes as unresponsive black squares.
@donnienew2352
@donnienew2352 2 жыл бұрын
I watch this yesterday, c.p.s. was told many times to report to court and they always had a excuse for not showing up. Now they don't want to be in court even the supervisor didn't know what to do. Yes porter is a very nice judge.
@Jennylouise87
@Jennylouise87 2 жыл бұрын
I've had to do home schooling via zoom and Google Meet with my nine year old due to the pandemic before, he was 7 and eight at those times. He knew how to mute and unmute.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@jewdd1989
@jewdd1989 Жыл бұрын
Judge said it well! I grew up with amazing friends who suffered in the foster care system as innocent kids with crappy parents in drugs and in and out of jail and later I became a foster parent during an emergency case with a student of my own… it was an absolute nightmare more so with the foster care employees (case manager, etc.) than the bio family which is pathetic. These employees make it very difficult for not only foster parents who do care and who do it for the right reasons but worse for the innocent kids trapped in their failure of a system!!! I feel for the workers who do their job and care because sadly there’s more failures than successes in this system.
@stephaniehunter9218
@stephaniehunter9218 2 жыл бұрын
You missed the best part at the end when CPS tries to examine why they can't be there by 5 and the judge examined why they WOULD be there by 5.
@Redrally
@Redrally 2 жыл бұрын
You missed the part where Judge Porter was playing the Jeopardy theme! The poor kid, he must have been wondering what the hell was going on.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
"not very hard" 😂
@gwenthompson8347
@gwenthompson8347 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a 74 year old born and raised Texan. Some of us Texans have a higher boiling point & it takes us longer to boil. But look out when we do. RUN. LOL. I love the Judge! Thanks for sharing this. More fun with Mike! 😁
@donnaheater9090
@donnaheater9090 Жыл бұрын
This Judge is correct. After 3 minutes looking for service, Reboot and check the number that you are joining the meeting in. Thank you Mike. So sad.
@mbsisktb9045
@mbsisktb9045 2 жыл бұрын
Their hearings are interesting to watch just for the control they have over their virtual courtroom. Judge Kim really keeps the parents in line and it’s amazing how often he has to kick the parents off the calls. All of the three are great judges but don’t disrespect them or break the simple rules
@wunndergurl911
@wunndergurl911 2 жыл бұрын
I personally loved when he was waiting on them and played the jeopardy song
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@patriciaevans5906
@patriciaevans5906 Жыл бұрын
Love him! Finally a judge that holds people accountable! Now bet they will have something to have against him. These two employees need a different job….not this one….not capable. You don’t sit there for 93 mins and not try something else.
@MINDFULMESS.
@MINDFULMESS. 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that they don't like being told what to do, they like being the ones doing the telling and being in charge of very VERY important issues on people's lives. They aren't looking at their screens and should be held in contempt. We've had 2 deaths locally due to this kind of arrogance in the DCFS in Northern Illinois. I say, sack them, jail or fine them until they get themselves in CHECK!!!
@jupiter.6268
@jupiter.6268 3 ай бұрын
Exactly..
@michaellombardi5578
@michaellombardi5578 2 жыл бұрын
Its also sad that representatives from CPS are behaving this way.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@jupiter.6268
@jupiter.6268 3 ай бұрын
Let's call them Anti Social workers. They are a HUGE MESS!
@rachealsmith5138
@rachealsmith5138 2 жыл бұрын
93 minutes late. Holy cow! Unfortunately this seems to be the case in 95% of the CPS groups. You can really talk about how understaffed and everything they are, but that is no excuse for the disrespect of the court or the peoples time. It really looks to me like they probably weren’t prepared, and didn’t even want to show. Another good one!
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@tally1703
@tally1703 2 жыл бұрын
Just wow! They are not able to figure out how to make it work for 93 minutes?! Damn, in this long period of time they could have easily walk over to the court... Sad that they don't prioritize the children that rely on them for help... They should really consider the change their career path! I wouldn't want someone like that working on my case! Great video as usual!
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@jennylynch9541
@jennylynch9541 2 жыл бұрын
This was epic!! They were soooo not telling the truth!! Good for that judge!! 👏🏻
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
🙌
@cartimandua_
@cartimandua_ 2 жыл бұрын
Wow - that was crazy!! What a nerve. I thought it was the defendant first! 🤣
@UnfortunateAltarBoy
@UnfortunateAltarBoy 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that there are 25,000 idiots out there in the world. I'm extremely proud to be included in with all of them! Congrats Mike!
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You 😂😂😂
@PrimRoseLane
@PrimRoseLane 2 жыл бұрын
"We do not have a village idiot. We have to take turns."
@jeffreykweder8337
@jeffreykweder8337 2 жыл бұрын
@@LawTalkWithMike Your commentary is so great/appreciated. Has anyone coined “GravCits” yet? Perfect fans appellation.
@FD2003Abc
@FD2003Abc 2 жыл бұрын
I assume you mean "idiot" in a good way, right? LOL Mike: 25K! You are growing FAST!!
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
🤩
@roxannehouse4408
@roxannehouse4408 Жыл бұрын
I loved, loved, loved this!!!!!! Yes, all incompetent individuals whom hold important positions (especially in regards to children!).... Should be held accountable!!! Thank you thank you for this!!! 😄😄😄
@porkypies8734
@porkypies8734 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, CPS in the DFW area is a joke. A serious joke. And yes, it stands for Child Protective Services.
@lehammsamm
@lehammsamm 2 жыл бұрын
We've been doing this for almost 2 years now. 🤦🏻‍♂️At this point I'd just mark a defendant as absent and move on to the next case. Courts have to deal with way too much other stuff for these shenanigans.
@allisonjames2923
@allisonjames2923 2 жыл бұрын
That’s obviously what they’re hoping for though so no. Hold them accountable.
@itwasjammerthatclickedyou2262
@itwasjammerthatclickedyou2262 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think that was 180 dollars worth of fun for the two people ? They got what they deserved. The judge did keep his cool. That was impressive. Thanks Mike, as always. Hugs and belly rubs to the twins. They seem happy and content. That says a lot about you ! Thanks again, Jerry
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You 😊
@Gwentheferret
@Gwentheferret Жыл бұрын
Considering their job duties, I'm impressed he didn't order jail time right away.
@MILS81
@MILS81 2 жыл бұрын
Lateph is an attorney that routinely appears in that court. Judge Porter, and Judge Kim for that matter, demand professionalism in court.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
He seems very professional 👍
@maryhain4205
@maryhain4205 Жыл бұрын
I have worked with some compassionate, intelligent caseworkers who sacrifice their time and effort for kids at risk and with others who are are drunk with power and self- importance. Very few have been a parent and they often have lived sheltered lives of academia. Glad the court is holding them accountable.
@Vaelosh466
@Vaelosh466 2 жыл бұрын
If you were on at 1:30 for a 1:30 court hearing you were late. I also don't believe that they sat there staring at a screen for an hour and half and nobody thought to call one of the other participants, or call the courthouse to see if they could get in touch with the judge's clerk, or anything.
@tracyhaverstick5672
@tracyhaverstick5672 2 жыл бұрын
I am terrible with computers and social media. I also live in a rural area with only satellite internet available. That said, I was easily able to attend to medical appointments via Zoom. I was proud of myself for how easily I handled it. I theorize, as you did, this was intentional. Unless someone had a signal jammer, which their visual attempts rules out, it's impossible for all the computers and phones to malfunction. Judge Porter handled this beautifully!
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
🙌
@poohbear01x48
@poohbear01x48 Жыл бұрын
I work in IT, so it’s not completely unheard of for an entire office worth of PCs to be down. I’m going to make a HUGE assumption here - based on there being only two devices, I’m guessing these devices ARE NOT domain joined (unless the govt has stepped up to using Azure, which I doubt for cost and security reasons). This would make their most likely failure the internet. IDK what kind of providers they have in that area, but a whole block or a single office could be down. Unless they’re paying for a business connection (much more expensive), then their internet is as likely to die as your home internet is. Just for some perspective. However, they could’ve joined by phone or called, etc. instead of dragging on for 90 minutes. Totally intentional.
@heavenlydove
@heavenlydove Жыл бұрын
​@@poohbear01x48 we have been doing this for 3 years now! Unacceptable!
@poohbear01x48
@poohbear01x48 Жыл бұрын
@@heavenlydove I’m not excusing it by any means, just giving a bit of context to their claim about all of the computers being down. I ended up ultimately saying that I did believe their lack of attendance was intentional.
@apaintedflower605
@apaintedflower605 Жыл бұрын
I logged into the wrong Zoom ONCE and it never happened again. It's common sense, and if they don't have that many brain cells, then I go with the passive aggressive and am glad for the contempt of court fines. Well deserved.
@charmoz292
@charmoz292 2 жыл бұрын
I am totally IT illiterate. But I would make damn sure someone taught me how to go on zoom well in advance. It is my responsibility to be there at the right day & time for a court case.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
Yes 👍
@nigellill3222
@nigellill3222 2 жыл бұрын
25k subs ? well done Mike, you deserve every one of them & more. This is another one of those situations where, it's like when you was a kid sitting at the dinner table while your dad is tearing out your sibling & everyone else just sits there trying not to draw attention to themselves fully aware there's no escape. He's a pretty good Judge holding it together for as long as he did while his court was being disrupted. Stay safe & keep on smiling 👍🏼🦘
@goosebump801
@goosebump801 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you covered this, Mike! I watched all of that call, starting with Judge Kim then handed off to Judge Porter. Judge P. is indeed quite patient, and extremely perceptive. His BS meter with the kids and parents involved is excellent. His rulings are quick/efficient and made sense to me. After the point where you cut this off, the CPS people asked Judge P. to give them the address. Of the courthouse. Which (he confirmed) they HAD in fact visited in person before. They then asked for an alternative because one CPS worker didn’t have a checkbook with her. Judge P., deadpan, said “Well, I guess you get to stop at the bank first then.” He repeated the 5:00 deadline and the arrest warrant as consequence for any non-compliance. I understand your not wanting to cover juvenile cases, but would recommend Judge Alex Kim’s channel to anyone interested. (Also note that they don’t broadcast anything related to kids 14 or under.) Thanks for letting me enjoy the delicious awfulness a second time 😂💐
@mindybunny
@mindybunny 2 жыл бұрын
Could you please post a link for this I would love to watch it.
@goosebump801
@goosebump801 2 жыл бұрын
@@mindybunny Sure thing! I’ll post it in a separate comment, because YT often puts comments with links on hold 😐 In case my other comment doesn’t come through, Mike actually included it in the video description. It’s not right at the top as he usually does, and its label isn’t obviously related - something like “323rd District Court Hearings 2/1/22”. That court streams its proceedings on the YT channel “Judge Alex Kim,” so that’s another way to find it. Enjoy 💐
@goosebump801
@goosebump801 2 жыл бұрын
@@mindybunny Here you go: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r8eAjaWZ3pPLn4E.html
@takeiteasy0000
@takeiteasy0000 2 жыл бұрын
agreed, the ending was great. after all that, they blurt out complaints about how to pay like a common parole violator. The whole court must have been, are they for real? and I get that yt encourages a certain length of video, but I'm one of those people who appreciate long content as well, you have to appreciate the awkwardness of the waiting first hand.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@BillViets
@BillViets Жыл бұрын
I used to watch the Ft. Worth juvenile cases. The CPS staffers loathe the judges because both make the staffers commit to deadlines when things will be done.
@ame402
@ame402 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy Judge Kim’s court room made your channel. Lateph Adiniji is a defense attorney. Judge Kim has a good relationship with him as you’ll see in some of his past videos. Kim is not afraid to find parents and kids in contempt when warranted. Another frequent defense atty is Trent Lofton… some of the judges have no patience for his sense of humor though.
@yoshi6421
@yoshi6421 2 жыл бұрын
Is the word in your last sentence "patience"? I mean, maybe a judge can get a patent for his brand of humor...
@ame402
@ame402 2 жыл бұрын
@@yoshi6421 haha yes.. darn autocorrect ! Good catch!
@jimmaloney1121
@jimmaloney1121 2 жыл бұрын
Uncle Trent! And Ms. Lisa Herrick *swoon*
@yoshi6421
@yoshi6421 2 жыл бұрын
@@ame402 Autocorrect gets everybody haha
@williamroberts6803
@williamroberts6803 2 жыл бұрын
What he means is you have a choice, turn it on or we issue a warrant for your arrest.
@justb4769
@justb4769 2 жыл бұрын
Wow the audacity of some people. unbelievable! Good video. Thanks Mike!
@jupiter.6268
@jupiter.6268 3 ай бұрын
That's how they operate on one of many ways they think they are UNTOUCBABLE !
@SamuelBaker111
@SamuelBaker111 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE this judge! All of this courts hearings are in zoom and the whole team is amazing
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@Pattsnogle23
@Pattsnogle23 2 жыл бұрын
I kept hearing the Jeopardy theme song in my head while watching this. The judge was VERY patient with them. 🤦‍♂️
@smoorej
@smoorej 2 жыл бұрын
If I was either of these CPS employees I would get out my checkbook and head down to court right now. I don’t think a 5:01PM arrival time would be a good idea. I’m pretty sure “I tried to get there but I missed the bus” wouldn’t cut it with the judge.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@GuessWho1
@GuessWho1 2 жыл бұрын
I watch Judge Porter, Judge Terry, Judge Kim daily. Judge Kim is a savage. 😂
@paisleyt500
@paisleyt500 2 жыл бұрын
Hi friend :) #ChatGang
@Gotanewcaseofcrabs
@Gotanewcaseofcrabs 2 жыл бұрын
Yay! I’m so happy this Judge held feet to the fire!! I never see that, unfortunately
@erudite60
@erudite60 2 жыл бұрын
When it's something as important as court, you need to, not just be on time, but you need to have checked that your equipment is working, & paperwork, if necessary, is in perfect order. Like you Mike, I'd have 'hit the proverbial roof'!!
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@1spoiledbabygirl
@1spoiledbabygirl 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike! I love Judge Kim & Judge Porter. They are patient and fair, but dont mess with them cause it is NOT tolerated. I have seen people come on there (Judge Kim), with NO PANTS ON! One parent (yes, I said parent) went to the restroom and everything! At 1 point she dropped her phone and all of us in the chat could only speculate she dropped it in the toilet because she never came back on for the case she was there for. LOL the lack of parental/support in general, the majority of those kids have there is eye opening as to why these kids are acting out and getting in trouble. They're left to fend for & raise themselves, and it's sad to see. Zoom court has been a blessing and a nightmare for all parties. Have a great day to you Mike and everyone else that reads this comment! Take care & stay safe!
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You 😊
@Lanedude08
@Lanedude08 2 жыл бұрын
93 minutes? There’s absolutely zero excuse, especially when they saw you turn the camera on and off.
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@D.T.A1
@D.T.A1 6 ай бұрын
I honestly can't believe how disrespectful they are.. he is one of the most patient people I have ever seen in my life.. WONDERFUL JUDGE
@JustaMomnFamily
@JustaMomnFamily 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honesty on what you know and what you don't know. As well as giving us as much info as you can. That is one of the reasons why I respect you as a human being.
@joshuaverkerk4532
@joshuaverkerk4532 2 жыл бұрын
I’m down here in Texas and there has been a lot of issues with CPS and foster care in the state during the last few years. Unfortunately this is an example that is indicative of the ongoing struggles, with relatively little initiative from state leadership.
@enid0mom
@enid0mom 2 жыл бұрын
Texas only cares about children before they are born.
@rebeccacannabidragonhogan9545
@rebeccacannabidragonhogan9545 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this happen live!! It was actually longer and they weren't even on the zoom like they were supposed to be. He has had many issues with them before and he is fed up! They have obligations and they are not keeping up with them and it is rubbing the judge the wrong way big time!! He runs his courtroom a certain way. He finds that disrespectful of them. The other attorney tried to help also but they are CPS! They know what they have to do and didn't do it and didn't even show up and then pull this crap!? He is DONE! You took out my favorite part "Well, I guess you better stop off at the bank on the way here then!" Whe she asked if she could pay by credit card or debit card cause she didn't have checks!! You didn't keep that in!!!! That was the best part hahaha
@ted3bare
@ted3bare 2 жыл бұрын
Finally the contempt of court hammer was deployed! Way to go Judge Porter! I would have liked to see Judge Kim handle this!
@pattymelt5525
@pattymelt5525 2 жыл бұрын
In 93 minutes (add 15 minutes for the cushion you shoulda given yourself), you could have driven over there. That’s why he asked if they were in Ft. Worth. Absolutely ridiculous!!
@britnicox3929
@britnicox3929 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always been taught that as a professional, you should be checking any technical issues at least 30 min to an hour before to allow for other options (ie, going to the court house, calling in, checking the room is correct, messaging the judge, etc). 93 minutes for *two adults* to figure out there was an issue? Nah, had to be a passive aggressive move
@LawTalkWithMike
@LawTalkWithMike 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@thudthud5423
@thudthud5423 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh...that is frustrating. Now, if this was some low income defendant on drugs or alcohol, I could understand the mess. Its inexcusable for a government employee (CPS) to display this amount of supposed confusion and technical incompetence. If there was technical difficulties, they should have had an IT person trying to solve the problem.
@mitch52301
@mitch52301 2 жыл бұрын
That is just ridiculous, I swear people these days. No respect for anyone, but if it was them and they were waiting on someone, I guarantee you they wouldn't be as patient. Tell you this, the judge ain't buyin it!!!! Yes CPS means Child Protective Services, you are correct sir. Oh I am not buying all this, all of their electronics all of a sudden are malfunctioning. Awesome, the judge is finding them in contempt, that is what he needs to do!!!!!
@XXfallenangel
@XXfallenangel Жыл бұрын
The guy on the left is frustrated too in the beginning. He turns RED as a TOMATO 🍅 😂😂😂
@jerrycann6374
@jerrycann6374 2 жыл бұрын
Ignore a Judge's orders in court and you'll be held in contempt. Zoom allows these rude people get away with it....... (wooops, I wrote this too early, great job by the Judge) 👍
@j3ttagrl420
@j3ttagrl420 2 жыл бұрын
🤣 I was happy to see they didn't get away with it!
@josephfranzen5626
@josephfranzen5626 2 жыл бұрын
I also work in the IT industry specifically with Microsoft SQL server. It astounds me how many people don’t understand very user friendly software like Zoom that has a clear and defined graphical user interface. It makes me concerned for our species. On another note, you never cease to entertain and make my day exponentially better Mike! Great video!
@PrashantBhardwaj13
@PrashantBhardwaj13 2 жыл бұрын
there can be issue with microphone permission, thats not so obvious for non tech people
@Gwentheferret
@Gwentheferret Жыл бұрын
@@PrashantBhardwaj13 In this case, we know the microphone wasn't the problem, since it did go on them off again (as the judge mentioned), and then they were heard just fine through the speakerphone.
@jdrizzle8424
@jdrizzle8424 2 жыл бұрын
They probably don't pay enough to attract competent people who would arrive to zoom meetings with bells on, ready for court
@Fil0girl
@Fil0girl 2 жыл бұрын
I follow this court, Mike. OCOK is a CPS private contractor. Lateph is the child's defense attorney. JPD means "juvenile probation department."
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