Take that up with KZfaq (google) 😂

Honestly!!

@@user-zb6lg1xj3k I'm sure some SJW at Google will hunt them down and cancel them. Aholes

@@Motivatedk9 bruh stop bringing up politics everywhere

Since it was a live talk, my guess is that the captions came from someone using one of those live transcription machines with the weird keyboard that lets them type words in just a few button presses. They're normally preprogrammed with English words only, plus a couple catch-alls for stuff the transcriptionist wasn't able to catch... leading to this sort of useless result for a talk that's not in any particular language.

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Ok

I only came here at the comments section to see if anyone paid attention to that... lol... And yes, they do. F. ex., in Danish they have this sound, as well as Swedish.

@@leonardocastilhone399 but that sound is not phonemic in any language

@@adamabouelleil160 except danish

@@object-official it's allophonic in Danish, not phonemic

@ThisIsMyRealName Yeah exactly. But χτίζω does not have an aspirate in the beginning, Χ is a fricative, so this word is pronounced ['xtizo]. But some remain as two stops, e.g. πτώση ['ptosi]. We also have this weird one that can give English speakers a headache: τμήμα ['tmima].

One of the reasons why I love Greek's phonoaesthetic

Plus in English we words like "sept" and "sect". Granted, it's not super prevalent, but it's still there.

turn the first plosive into an ejective

Georgian Language mts’k’rtveli gvprtskvni gvbrdghvni mt’k’vineuli

or sixths /sɪksθs/ :(

@@LAMarshall omg I never thought about that one

@@Ott3rpup hahaha, yeah it's horrible. As a native speaker, I just say /sɪkθs/ or even [s̪ɪks̻ː] if I'm lazy 😅

@@FamicomLass that’s a good one too, though -sixss- sixths is much more common in daily speech

@@LAMarshall oh goodness that is a mouthful

Love("I", "cat"); VSO.

Haskell can really be anything you want. VSO: love i cat VOS: love cat i SVO: i `love` cat OVS cat `love` i You can even define an operator: > x ♥ y = x ++ " love " ++ y > "i" ♥ "cat" "i love cat"

@@willmcpherson2 A monad is just a monoid in the cat of endofurries.

​@@willmcpherson2 it cant be OSV tho

@@ExaltedHermit Yeah, SOV as well. The verb/function can't be postfix.

@@gamerfortynine Just because my toaster has settings other than "raw" and "charcoal" doesn't mean that my opinion about toast more important than that of others. I was referring to a nuanced "star rating". One thumb for good two thumbs up for excellent, three for best-thing-since-sliced-bread, etc. Another (subtle) hint was that I _really_ liked this particular video. I guess subtlety is lost on YouTewbers

You are the Kwisatz Haderach.

@@h3lblad3 Ah yes, a man of culture I see.

@@shaikai3 Biblaridion has a good series called How To Make A Language that goes into more detail

The phrase is "colorless green ideas sleep furiously"

You could totally have a meaningful pronoun for non-physical things. Like if English used ka for non-physical things you'd see "this is KZfaq, ka is a website"I." It's not really a "colorless green ideas sleep furiously" thing. Colorlessness is incompatible with greenness. Non-physical pronouns are just really weird.

Why? Nonphysical pronouns make perfect sense, even if they would only be used in very specific cases. For instance, in the phrase, "God, I ask you to guide me through these difficult times", I would expect the "you" to be nonphysical, since it's referring to god, a nonphysical entity. In a story about ghosts, anyone referring to a ghost by he/she would probably use the nonphysical version of the pronouns. Or maybe even real people talking about fictional characters from a book or movie would use the nonphysical pronouns for them. So someone writing a review of Harry Potter might use nonphysical "he" to refer to the titular character. There might be other uses to this kind of pronoun, but I can't think of any.

@@QuotePilgrim maybe its presence implies that native speakers are more likely to go out of their way to use it; stuff like "gravity, thou art a heartless bitch" as a common method of swearing, or something.

​@@QuotePilgrimWhat if the god is an idol? A statue is physical. Would different types of gods be classed differently?

Yeah I'm pretty sure the audience would have loved to follow along with other parts as well if mr peterson had the time, but due to constraints, the phonology taking a long time is what ended up squishing the rest way down.

It feels like the audience was a mixed bag. Some were geeking out majorly on linguistic distinctions, others seemed like laypersons, others felt like just fans of his work. Guess it depends what each wanted from the talk.

Do you know of any content similar to this that maybe goes into more detail?

@@MarimbaMaurice I'm a year late, but check out How to Make a Language by Biblaridion

possibly

@@zkingsalsa possibly dog, you might say

@@Cattzar yes

He'd notice as soon as you put in /ɹ/ (that's the IPA symbol for the English r sound, which is pretty rare in other languages)

@@columbus8myhw No, he'd notice once you put a "th" sound in, because that's way rarer than any of the English varieties of R.

@@thewanderingmistnull2451 both forms of “th” are rare? Voiced and unvoiced?

@@SnackMuay Yeah, they aren’t very common.

@@thewanderingmistnull2451 he would probably recognise when both are in the same chart

That's a thing? Because... I'm currently designing a conlang called A`tla to serve as the Atlantean language in a project I'm working on.

Nobody will ever create such euphonetic languages as Tolkien.

@@JTDimino All conlangers are implicitly either commenting upon, responding to, or living in the shadow of, Tolkien. How's that for a bold claim?

@@JTDimino I agree its unrealistic, as given 1000 years someone will eventually out do Tolkien. But to say Peterson is close to Tolkien is laughable, Tolkien created 9 fully functional languages, in a time before the IPA and access to information about other languages from around the world was readily available and linguistics as fleshed out and heavily researched as it is in the modern era. He created actual writing systems for these languages to, where as the vast majority of the languages Peterson has created don't need or require a writing system, and he did all of this while living through the 2 greatest and most devastating wars humanity has ever seen.

@@JTDimino Of course it does, Tolkien had to waste time looking for information in books, and if those books weren't available you just didn't get that information, if he had the luxuries of modern conlangers he would of been able to far exceed what he already did, which to this day still outdoes a lot of modern conlangers

Swedish has them too, like vattna "to water"

Don’t forget the worst word for me, a non native Russian speaker to pronounce «для» a fricative followed by an l is so hard to pronounce

@@eagle0710 dunno, dlya seems pretty easy to pronouce for me

Norwegian too… "lodne katter" (furry cats). A dialect (ryfylke) does it all the time, "jædna" (gladly).

I would say similar for UK's BSL, though OSV and OVS (like in the talk) are more natural. Perhaps even dropping the subject 'I' if it's obvious from context.

He too likes to live dangerously

Although they exist, Russian speakers never use them. It's always ruka, noga. The word "kist", if they ever use it, will mean an artists brush rather than a hand.

@@adamclark1972uk sure, that's exactly what I mean to say =) We use blank term unless specifics are required.

Still, you made them. Good job!

@@TheInterestingInformer tbh i've barely made anything so i don't know why i even commented that ha

@@chao3948 one day imma make one 😁

@@TheInterestingInformer you won't regret it

A lot of Swedish dialects also have ɶ. As a native speaker with that vowel, I got kinda triggered lol

@@ilc_o_O I think that he was talking about laguages having that vowel as a full-fledged phoneme, not just an allophone or a local realization of a different vowel without phonemic distinction.

what's vadan? is it at all based on swedish? (recognised the 'please') otherwise it seems slavic tho

As far as I know, Danish uses that symbol to denote sounds that are not exactly what that same symbol stands for in the IPA, for example [œ], which is an open-mid front rounded vowel and not a fully open one. But [ɶ] should occur in Danish as an allophone.

@@mattiacarvetta hmmm it may be an allophone, I'm gonna try to think of a minimal pair :)

@@axospyeyes281 It'd be awesome!

@@mattiacarvetta ok so I found a minimal pair between œ and ɶɐ̯ bøn /bœnˀ/ børn /bɶɐ̯nˀ/ I don't think there are any with the non-diphthong version tho

@@axospyeyes281 Oh nice catch! But I think that technically speaking that doesn't count as a true minimal pair. What's going on here is that probably the [ɐ̯] part of the diphthong is lowering a possible [œ] to [ɶ]. But do you know what Danish people would think if one would pronounce børn as [bœɐ̯nˀ]? So, with a wrong diphthong?

same, i think. i jsut make a really small G noise- actually... i think the noise i make is the Palatal Nasal (ɲ). its like N but G but N ?? its not N because my tongue moves back, but its not G because its not .. g. if its not that, i have no idea what it is.

Oh yeah , did the crawling eyeball come before or after the crawling hand? And wasn't there a b/w first version of the blob?

reallykek wait so question: is "en" kind of like the English word "an" in that they acquire "n" before vowels? It would be a cool connection lol

@@spegnagmaglorious3590 So this is the most complicated and illogical part of swedish grammar for learners to grasp. And the most difficult to explain... The swedish equivalent of "a, an", the indefinite article is "en, ett" and was based on the word gender classes of old germanic language tradition; masculinum, femininum and reale. So.. That changed at somepoint and for some reason and we now use Utrum, (from Latin, Uter - "one of two"), and Neutrum (from Latin, Neuter -"none of two") Okay, I'm not gonna attempt to get this right... LONG STORY SHORT: No, it's not the same, and not as easy as in English! We use En, Ett because of old traditions of creating words with attatched gender labels. The Utrum is the masculinum, and Neutrum is the other one. For example: "en kung, kungen" = "A king, the king" - here we see the masculine gender prefix "(e)n" in front of Kung, since kings can only be masculine. But we see "en" as a suffix as well in the definitie article "kungen", adding the masculine gender suffix as a prefix instead. In contrast: the Neutrum "(e)t" in this example "Ett Äpple, Äpplet =An Apple, The Apple" use both the prefix and suffix (e)t and becomes ett, or (e)t. IN CONCLUSION! Take this with a grain of salt, but most of it is correct-ish, but can be explained better and differently! We don't teach this to our students.. We teach them to learn which words use what prefix or suffix, and how it works in a clause - not the illogical rules behind it! =)

reallykek wowowowow OK wow Thank you though like wow

@@spegnagmaglorious3590 No worries! I was bored ;)

Funny, I thought of this exact same example as well!

He didn’t say that. He said “minimum three” and “it might be two -I’m going to have to check on that” so he’s unsure but he definitely said no language only has one isolated click sound

@@MsLaBajo Yes but this language has only one

@@columbus8myhw That doesn't count as one, because there's phonemic distinction between the three, so that makes a total of three distinct click consonant sounds. As an aside, Sesotho speakers also make use of dental clicks as allophones.

"he did it" * points to self *

cool

Nice man, how's it going?

d'you do it just for fun ?

The vowel French has is /œ/, not /ɶ/, which is the one he was trying to pronounce.

he sounds like he might have a cold here

@@ko-lq7vuWhich is why he reminds people to please wash their hands with warm water.

Ambiguity is more fun

The dialect of English that a person speaks has nothing to do with how accomplished a linguist they are. Having said that, a linguist might be more likely to know that the word route comes from French, in which the vowel is an /u/. I do wonder how some Americans ended up pronouncing "route" as /raut/. It doesn't seem to be part of a systematic shift in vowel sounds. I imagine it likely started as just some uneducated person who read it off the page and didn't know how to pronounce it properly.

@@omp199 I didn't say anything about dialect. And I didn't say anything about what makes someone an accomplished linguist. While I 100% agree with your first statement, I failed to see what it has to do with my comment---until I realized that in your experience, /rut/ and /raut/ are dialectical differences. See, in my experience near Chicago (such as it is), these 2 pronunciations are completely interchangeable. I know someone from Wisconsin who agrees with me on that. I've often heard people say /rut/ when following it with a number, then say /raut/ in the next sentence when it's NOT followed by a number. You're on to something. Look at the English word "couch" which comes from the French "couche", "blouse" from "blouse", "gouge" from the tool called "gouge" in French; same thing with the bird called "grouse", and the lesser known "rout" from "route" or "déroute". Finally "joust" vs "joute". Yes, I know I'm using the modern spellings, even though the words have gone through metamorphoses in both languages. My point is, in each of those examples the "ou" is /au/ in English, but is /u/ in its French cognate. So I think these could be examples of the phenomenon that you're describing. Although I suspect it had just as much to do with convenience and apathy as it had to do with lack of education.

@Greg Jacques Lucifer's Jizz Gargler the language foo!

I don't understand...

@@blerst7066 One of the emperor reinvented the Korean Language to be its own thing separate from Chinese

@@JNC7 You got a lot of things wrong: 1. He was a KING, not an emperor. 2. He invented the Korean ALPHABET, not the language. Before the Korean alphabet, it was written using various methods, the oldest dating back to the 6th~7th century.

@@blerst7066 exactly! And he invented this alphabet so that everyone in the country could learn it because only scholars could read and write Korean with Chinese characters fluently at the time.

You could say this in german but really nobody would

@@ducking... well yes in particular case "I love cat" = "Ich liebe die Katze" is preferred but what I wanted to say is that you don't need a set in stone word order.

Didnt mean to correct you, Just a german with an aversion for cats xD

I'm surprised that David didn't mentioned that some languages allow you to diverge from it's basic order. For example, Russian has SVO order in general, though you can use a different order, dependin on whether you make a statement or answer a specific question, and which question exactly it is. So like in German, in Russian you can say "cats love I" (as in "I do love cats") or "cats I love" as an answer to "you do love dogs, but what about cats?", and so on.

OSV is practically none-existant. Me, who has had the 'Murder, She Wrote' theme as an earworm since Saturday: . . .

Like possessing a copyright on something? The copyright itself is not a physical object

@@PyrusFlameborn No, like rights or a mind

This is a really funny typo. 😂

@@MsLaBajo lol, a titless queen.

Indeed those two vowels tend to be allophones in some scandinavian languages.

No, he's not talking about grammatical number there, just the vote itself. A 'serpentine' vote means getting everyone to individually say what their vote is. What he's been doing instead - just glancing at the crowd and seeing which option seems to have more votes - is much faster but less precise, so it doesn't work in a situation like this where there's no clear winner. That's why he jokes about counting people quickly like sheep, then decides to overrule the vote because he doesn't have time to figure out which option won (which he could have done by holding a serpentine).

I think he was referring to word-initial geminated stops.

@@mattiacarvetta so... like /p:e/?

@@KerbalHub Exactly, but someone has pointed out to me that those exist too! Natural languages are weird and awesome!

Have you ever met a native speaker of Linear B who may be able to confirm that?

@@Ggdivhjkjl Linear B is Greek. The /pte/ syllable is found in the word "kleptein."

Well, "no number" simply means that there is no direct way of seeing the number of a noun. So let’s say "moya" means cat in a language with no number. Then "moya" could either mean "a cat", or "two cats" or "many cats" - it just isn’t specified. Some major languages, like Chinese if I’m not mistaken, function this way. And in these cases, the only way of knowing the precise number of cats, is either inferred by context, or your language has some other detached way of identifying it.

@@deithlan Oooh yeah I got you, thx for clearing it :)))

No, when?

@@Mortyst At 13:04 when someone suggests "long and short variants on vowels" it kinda sounded like them.

Isn’t that ö? I think the IPA for that is /ø/

Cries in Finnish

That's not the same sound. He was talking about [Œ] not [œ] or [ø]

@@spinnis Maybe he got the wrong symbol for the sound. I rounded [a] myself, and it sounded nothing like the one he's been making.

Uzbek language has it and all turkic languages as well

The vowel French has is /œ/, not /ɶ/, which is the one he was trying to pronounce.