Yes, both of those are good choices. I'm always interested in extra-biblical texts that didn't make it into canon. I also like the idea of shining light on the differences in Jesus' and Paul's teachings.

@@justinpridham7919 Thanks for watching Justin and I'll work on these in the coming month or so. Although I doubt they''ll be quite as horrific as the Infancy Gospels.

With your understanding, would you say you believe in Jesus and his apostles... Basically the Bible in general. That's where I'm wary. Have you learned if they actually existed? I'm more on the doubtful side as of late. If you have video on this let me know, I've just found your channel and am getting acquainted

@@treectrice9180 Hi, I do not believe Jesus was real, hence the interviews with Dr Carrier on this channel. Thanks for watching and supporting :)

All of em!

It is an amazing story, and as you said, something like Omen :)

There's no way the story about Jesus in the Temple teaching the elders because Jesus was considered a Mamzer and they were not allowed in the Temple.

@@RichPOPE-bw9ew I don’t think it’s true, I just remember coming across it in my kids’ Bible or sth

@@RichPOPE-bw9ew He wasnt exactly known for following rules was he, man had balls of steel

@@OLDSCHOOLPETE Because Human Rules do not apply to God

Heretic

@@jasongilder22 You definitely are ! Good luck with your church cult, I'm sure you're filling their pockets and then some but God you know not.

Yes, we have those lessons in the UK, but like you, I didn't get told about the killings

Apocryphal literature is typically not covered in those sorts of classes

They were murders. Jesus should have been stoned to death. Jesus also worked on the sabbath. That’s another death sentence. And since Jesus disobeyed his father he dishonored him so Jesus should have got a death sentence for that too! So in such a short time Jesus committed 3 capital offenses and should have been executed. And remember, Jesus said he is here to enforce all of god’s 613 laws and not one period or dot would be removed from god’s laws to forever. Jesus wasn’t even enforcing the laws against himself.

There's an old English carol that tells of a young Jesus who goes out to play, and when taunted by several wealthy boys about being poor and "born in an oxen stall" he reminds them that he is an angel above them all. They begin to chase him and when he comes to a stream, he creates a bridge from sunbeams which allows him to cross butt it won't support the boys, who all drown. When their mothers complain to Mary,she fetches home her some and beats him with a bundle of willow twigs.

Thanks for that story. Later on in the Bible Jesus said “Slaves obey your masters, even the cruel ones.” So Jesus began killing as a kid and grew up to support slavery. Jesus was a very immoral person if he existed at all.

The imminence of the 2nd coming has been foretold since the day Joshuah died. The Jewish messiah by the way was man not God. Joshuah was Jewish remember.

I’d have a beer with Omen over Jesus the mass murderer.

If they had shaved his head they would have seen the three sixes on his scalp.

Yeah maybe Christianity stole from that

Yes, it's a little bit crazy isn't it?

@@Crecganford yeah. Sorry, man. Just having a laugh. I am a big time atheist. I love your channel.

@@Crecganford and inaccurate

The first accounts of autism? 😅

Like Tucker Carlson projecting his childhood onto Democrats.

Apparently Mark and Joesph went through 666 different nannies in the first few years of his life…

do more research on how and why it was left out, it appears out of the blue and an odd timing compared to the rest of the bible, its not rejected by christianity it is mere fiction made to deceive and hinder people going to Christ

Is a gnostic text and goes against scripture

And thank you fro watching.

Thank you for listening, and the feedback. I really appreciate it :)

You were apart of a church but never of God.

i like your hat, but don't tip it, your autobiography isn't as interesting to me as this middle east fantasy tale.

@@unreallife6817 Hmm. Looks like you won't like the screen adaption then. No swordplay, no dragons, no rape, no blood and gore or magicians. Just we lemurs getting through our actual lives as best we can. However, the sex scenes are masterpieces in eroticism and romance, if I do have to say so myself.

I like the bible without believing it mostly because I'm interested in its pagan origins though I don't believe in paganism either. Maybe it's just because I find fantasy entertaining. 😅

Not obviously, although we sere these tropes in modern horror movies, with children with powers causing havoc.

Never mind Damien and the omen. It would make a good horror story.

There are so many unanswered questions with books like this just wanting me to invent a time machine. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel :)

I'm personally inclined to indulge ALL information and then disseminate and dont place veracity on the say so of influential people. The more I study religion the more they all seem like ciphers for some truth. But they're all fragmentary or redacted or taken out of their original contexts. I imagine the catholic church could fill a great void of info yet they don't. If they were preaching in truth all that info would just strengthen their position, yet they don't. You know, thinking of it, I don't wonder if by sending him to school to learn the letters wasn't to go learn kabbalah because of his gifts. And he shows up all dhali lama like, knowing more on it than the magi rabbis. Time machine would be helpful for sure lol.

Most likely because the Bible we know today was actually made popular by someone who, during early Christianity, divorced it from Judaism and made it more accessible’ to non Jews.

Because we are fools plain and simple and deceived ourselves just like Satan himself

Abdul! We’re talking about the true Jesus here, not your false Isa. Take your cult to another video.

Like in Children of the Corn?

Cheers Jas, the boy obviously had behavioural issues :)

@@Crecganford £10 on my daughter being able to kick his arse 🤣

It just means she didn’t tell until much later

Spirit of God can reveal anything for those who are willing to hear

Like they never tell all the horror that’s in the bible. Did they tell you about all the genocides and the virgin girls kept as sex slaves? Or the rules on how much you can beat your slaves?

​@@kellydalstok8900your absolutely wrong.

All these christian stories are rubbish. All religions are rubbish.

Not supposed to be literal u know

Nothing in the Bible is literal. It’s nothing more than the ramblings of primitive, barbaric and anonymous men. It’s amazing how many suckers there are who still fall for the greatest con in history. Christianity is the most deadly weapon invented by men. It’s worse than all weapons, diseases, starvations and murders. Christianity is a refuge for fools who are suckered into the insanity of that horrible, despicable religion.

They’re just fairytales about people who may not even have existed, just like Achilles and Hercules.

@@kellydalstok8900 Don’t tell me Paul Bunyon and Johnny Appleseed don’t exist!!!!

Jesus began as a serial killer and then supported slavery and the beating of slaves. Jesus said “slaves obey your masters, even the cruel ones.” Jesus never proclaimed slaves should be free. He supported slavery and the beating of slaves almost to the edge of death. Jesus took after his psychopathic father who loved genocide, mass murder, human sacrifices and looked at women as lowly property that he loved to murder.

Jesus was sent from the Pleaidians Planet

Our medieval ancestors liked making up a good story...

@@Crecganford Is that a firm period for the story's origin? I ask because of the claimed bird anecdote from the Quran which would put that particular anecdote at least as old as 610-635. So I am wondering just how far back some of these anecdotes go. I don't recall if it was your channel or another that was looking at creation stories to identify common links in an attempt to trace their origin as a way to link & trace human cultural development & migrations. I had had similar thoughts, so I was interested. just what might come from such a venture. This story seems in that kind of vein. So I was wondering if the anecdotes had other known sources.

Psalms 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

Coincidentally that's also the one which made me realise that the bible was not a real account of true events but just one more culture's mythology. I stopped going to Sunday School that week.

@@RichWoods23 The Bible is full of mythology. There may be a grain of truth in some parts of it, and one would hope that some of the things mentioned in the "Old Testament" (such as what amounts to genocide of some other people by the Israelites) never actually took place.

@@gaufrid1956 Unfortunately, given what we know about human social psychology, we can be quite sure that genocides -- with or without the explicit intention -- did take place in the past. We can also be quite sure, by looking at known historical examples, that people would also look for a cultural excuse for committing such horrors as a way of handling the inevitable psychological trauma. We might never be certain whether a particular instance is coded into mythology or rooted in history, because what to us today is mythology may have started out as tales restructured to instil lessons on morality and consequence, the origin of which might have been pure fantasy or possibly folk history of past events. When I was a kid I never accepted the standard Old Testament stories (creation, Noah's flood, Moses and the exodus, etc) as anything but mythology. The New Testament was at least rooted in historical places and people (eg Jerusalem, Tiberias, Herod the Great, Tiberius). What childhood acceptance I had of Christ's miracles finally went out the window with the growing realisation that the details given in the gospels could not be reconciled and that glorifying events, such as the apparent knowledge and wisdom of Jesus at age 12, had clearly been added as a prefiguration of greatness. Mythological and historical examples I was already familiar with were Herakles throttling the snakes in his crib and the young Alexander taming Bucephalus (today I would also add the apocryphal story of George Washington and the cherry tree).

@@RichWoods23 Tinuod na! That's true! There are many myths. Undoubtedly there were cases of what we would call genocide in the past, and in terms of those mentioned in the Old Testament (especially the exploits of Joshua) they were "justified" because they were orders from the entity known as Yahweh. As for the flood myth, it is pretty much worldwide. Noah is simply a rebadged Utnapishtim. There is even a flood myth here in Northern Mindanao Philippines, among the tribes of Bukidnon, as well as among aboriginal tribes back in my birth country of Australia. Myths like this likely have a kernel of history (like the rise in sea levels at the end of the Younger Dryas) and were embellished with retelling over the centuries.

@@gaufrid1956 But making up such a history for themselves doesn’t make them less evil, in my view.

It is! The story is so spectacularly shocking I can’t understand why it was written. Thanks for watching!

Supposedly Jesus was aware of his divinity. I'd say your analogy applies more to the rest of us ... What happens when we awaken to our own divinity as the old (psalms) & new ('you will do more amazing things than i.') testaments claim we are.

Yep, he was a bit of an emotional kid.

Still waiting after 2000 years. The last people that were around when Jesus died must surely be dead themselves by now.

Who cares, it’s all myth.

How deep is your faith; would you think it a blessing if someone ended your life to prove death is an illusion?

That is Christianity for you...

Are there multiple sources to corroborate these stories. Hundreds of years after the fact and relating detailed dialog? What makes you think I'm Christian? Looking at this from "historical" perspective alone. You may be e joking the stories as part of additional myths and that's perfectly fine.

Sorry, typo. Enjoying the stories is what comment below should say.

@@conniefearnside2279 I never thought you were Christian, and the Gospels of Thomas have a number of sources as they are from the Middle Ages, and so are literally made up nonsense by Christian scholars. I hope you are enjoying the videos, and thanks for your comments, they are always welcome.

Clearly, I misunderstood your first reply. 😊

And did you read that in a book? And if so what makes that book true, and this false?

Do you have evidence Jesus even existed other than books written many decades after the supposed fact, beginning with the writer of Mark, who wasn’t even familiar with the so called “holy land”? There are places mentioned in those books that didn’t exist at that time, and places that did are absent. The so called “Sea” of Galilea is just an insignificant lake. There never was a census that required people to travel to the town of their forefathers; that defies the whole purpose of a census. The NT contains more holes than an Emmenthaler.