Which Creed Movie do YOU Prefer???

Creed is every young man who grew up w/o a father but wants to be a better man.

I think we're finally seeing this masculinity, and we've seen it before. Whitebeard from OP, Stoic from HTTYD, Iroh from Avatar. These great masculine characters all have something in common. They all show great emotion and care for people deeply, and they are some of the strongest characters in their series. Positive masculinity will make you a great and strong man. Just look at the dragon of the west.

Positive masculinity is literally the older brother from Gurren Lagan Supportive, positive and reassuring big bro energy who radiates love rather than ego. THATS, positive masculinity

Rocky as a series and a character have always been a great showing of how masculinity is not an absence of emotions, it's just learning how to handle them and process them. Nice to see Creed is following suit.

The overall arc in Creed 2 was father/ son relationships and hit harder than any of the fight scenes. That's how to tell a story.

Damn. This analysis really hit me deeply. As a man who has been struggling to find my identity and self worth, made me tear up. Great work.

I have to share this with you as a black man. How you illustrated and portrayed these characters was so brilliant and dynamic. I deeply appreciate it as a man. In light of cancel culture and current masculinity being fully portrayed you did a great job in breaking down the beauty and the Dynamics and levels of these characters in such a great way. I'm officially subscribing and will be looking forward to more content in the near future. Again, thank you for this video.

Even the story between the Drago family was perfectly continued from the 4th rocky movie and made them feel like real people with their own hardships and allow them some sort of redemption

We gotta always have balance as men, show emotion but be careful who u show it to (so that it can’t be used against u or it’s not viewed as weak by a toxic person) & no what to cry about, u never wanna wanna cry about EVERYTHING. Fathers & father figures teach u this growing up. Fathers are so important.

I really how Rocky accepts Adonis very naturally and very relatable and not like how they do it in other movies

This analysis made me cry because I got to internalize my deep thoughts about my personal life events and how they relate to Adonis’s warrior path. It reignited my long lost fighter spirit trapped in the deepest, darkest pits of laziness, comfort, insecurity, conformity and lack of ambition. Now… things will be different. I will fight again.

The creed trilogy is amazing

kinda wished you talked more about drago because when he looked for his mother only to see that she left them again, it was heartbreaking

Some people think the Creed series is crude. I wish they saw the wholesomeness behind it.

Having emotions but controlling them and over coming obstacles is being a real man

Love this. For a boxing movie, the films never settle for less than complex, realistic, healthy men

Seeing a story about how vulnerable these men got was crazy to see in theaters. I walked out with no words , just amazed at how good it was , trying to put my finger on what it was that made it so great. Was it the cinematography? The fight choreography? I ultimately decided on how they chose to tell the story behind adonis and damian , and how impactful thier actions were behind every action. Sure the previous creed/rocky movies touched on the vulnerability abd relatiobships between men, but having an emphasis put on it as driving force of the plot on creed lll elevated it to another level

Grew up with Lord of the Rings (books/films) Aragorn is brave, heroic, wears dresses & gowns, recites poetry, excels in combat, is ruggedly handsome, cries a lot, and expresses his deep love for his friends. He just feels human, and because of that, his heroic deeds are more badass, and his emotional moments more tender. He and Sameise were my fictional male role model growing up and I couldn't really have asked for a better pair.

I always loved when Adonis called Rocky unc. It reminded me of all the friends of my parents who I still refer to as my aunts and uncles.

"Hard times create strong men." This quote implies that crying is just means you will come out a stronger man.

There is absolutely nothing “toxic” about true masculinity

had to subscribe! as a black woman i’m always rooting for positive black male masculinity. i’m not really a sports movie fan, however the creed movies affected me in a way i wasn’t expecting…and it’s all thanks to how the characters were written!! i appreciate this video sir!! i saw in another comment that you plan on doing one on creed 3, and i saw that last weekend so i’m excited! admittedly it’s my favorite in the franchise.

Dylan, thanks for making this piece. Took lots of notes. I went ahead and watched the film. I only pray that I not only know and talk about being a better man, but to walk it and live it everyday.

I'm only two movies in on my rewatch of the franchise, but man, I'm almost in tears watching Rocky in the second movie's montage and he has half of Philidelphia's kids running behind him as he's making his way to City Hall, and it makes me want to be better. He's come a long way from being this guy that wastes his potential and shaking people up to collect debts. What also makes it work so well is that he was struggling to get anywhere without Adrian's approval. He tried to change for her even though she never asked, and she was supportive of that choice, but then he had a crisis of identity and it put the family in such stress that it broke them both and puts her in a coma. She doesn't like the idea of him being beaten up, but she ultimately wants him to be his true self and his true self inspires all of Philidelphia, and they help inspire him, which makes it all the better when he does eventually win the Heavyweight Title because it's really everyone standing up against one man's ego. Apollo's constantly putting people down, people are putting him down, too, and Rocky's story is the complete opposite, and it's beautiful. He's making time for things that really matter, he's only able to get better by the support of others, and it's a perpetual cycle that gets Rocky to the top, it's not just about two guys punching each other for our entertainment (because that only totals maybe 10 minutes of the runtime anyway).

I think masculinity and machismo has been very berated in recent years and has been labeled as something bad and something that should just be kept down. When really the real issue that we as men have isn’t masculinity and machismo, it’s expression and being open about our emotions. Masculinity should be something positive that should be celebrated but it should also strive to be something that is mentally and physically healthy.

Watching this makes me wish Apollo didn't die. To see a black man be there for his black son is something rarely seen in cinema

I haven't watched the movies. But I must admit, your video has compelled me to not only watch it, but also watch it with my new family. Your video struck a chord in me as I am going through similar issues. Thank you.

Great video man. Really hit deep. I have just become a professional footballer after years of hard work and dedication but now that im here ive been really afraid to fail for some reason. Which has been effecting my performance on the pitch. Feeling that I would let people down if I dont make it further than this has just made me fuck up things where I just play well. Your video made me realise its not about showing how good I am to the other players, coaches, fans. But to show it to my self. And whatever happens realising I tried my best and be proud in that. Thanks man.

Great video! I totally agree, and creed 3 even ties together a lot of these points about masculinity and brotherhood. Keep up the content!

Whitebeard from One Piece is an all time great example of what true masculinity. Whitebeard literally fought an entire war just to save his adoptive son, and throughout the war, he shows not only great power, integrity and just a paramount of physique, he took the time to show emotion, hugging a crew member despite Skuard stabbing him with intent to kill, making a point to show that a father's greatest shame is not to fail his son, because Whitebeard certainly made mistakes, hence Ace ending up at marineford in the first place, but instead his greatest shame is to bury his son. He shows unconditional love and acceptance to each and every member of his crew, regardless of their race, identity, species or even when they betray him, but also know and respect them enough to stand alongside them in battle. Thats a true father, thats true masculinity and that is a true man.

I love this, mate! Makes me wanna hit the gym then hug my bros like we're Greek heroes

Creed 3 makes me see the holding cell scene even deeper after what happened to Damian

What a beautiful, beautiful analysis. So well thought out and really captures a huge piece of the heart of the entire Creed/Rockyverse. Awesome analysis, brother. Really spoke to my current season of life. I hope this stays on KZfaq forever.

I wouldn't say the character of a "Adonis Creed" as a child was a bully. I'd much rather would say that he probably had a bad temper, and if somebody crossed or speak side-ways to him, he would fight. Adonis is a natural fighter just like his father before him, its in his blood.

Wauw! This is a superbly good essay. You articulated how I thought and felt about this franchise in a great manner. Thank you for your saying what many fans saw in Creed. ❤

wow this is great! the 3rd installment fits perfectly within this narrative. I won’t spoil how but just know you’ll be updating this video soon! lol great work

Thank you for talking about these films! Great stuff.

Really appreciate this video man. Been in a slump lately because of certain areas in my life not going well. I think you can relate as a KZfaqr that it´s frustrating when your videos don´t get the amount of views you want. Comparing myself to others, thinking wins or titles validate the whole process. This video made me realize that as that is Adonis´ whole arc. I gotta realise that these things I care about are in my blood and that I care a lot more about the things that they make me tell about myself, instead of what others could tell me. Or at least, I should start to prioritize that. And the fact I also care about being the best version of myself for others. Not because they could look at me and validate me and think wow you did great, but because I care about them and myself. I remember a line of Adonis that says ´´I wouldn't be any good to you if I stopped being who I was.´´ You´re a great guy. this vid made a lot of people open up in the comments and its very nice to see you responded to them in a personal way. I´m gonna dig deep for my journey of recovery now (while imaging the training montage)😊

Nice video, I've watched the creed movies but after watching this, I will

Man I really need to rewatch the original creed. I haven’t seen it since it came out, although I’ve rewatched the second one multiple times bc that desert training scene motivates me like nothing else. As a die hard fan of the first 4 Rocky movies(yes the 4th is absolute propaganda, but nostalgia has a firm grip on me), I can’t help but see the Creed movies as more mature than the Rocky series, with the exception of the original Rocky, as that is simply a movie about a very human boxer rather than a boxing movie, which is a label that I don’t think any of the subsequent movies have been able, or even tried to escape. I adore creed 2/3 bc they’re great sports movies with realistic characters and hype/emotional moments, but this video really inspired me to revisit the original. I’m a sucker for father-child dynamics due to years of media like god of war, Logan and the last of us

Creed movie is so deep and a masterpiece I watched it clearly show a how a young man need to find himself to be strong physically and mentally to be a better man

I have always loved these Rocky - and now Creed, too - movies, for almost twenty years now. And in recent years I come to see these as first and foremost films about becoming, finding, enduring, prevailing, courage, and heart. Not necessarily in that order. Then the Boxing afterwards. Rocky is the ultimate underdog story, but to me the film I always see is Rocky finding stability and confidence in himself, rather than just a boxing film. You’re your own worst enemy. In Creed, as Rocky says to Adonis pointing to him in the mirror, “That’s your toughest opponent.”

This video is so well made and inspiring

I loved this thanks 🙏🏻

Seeing Creed 3 on Monday. Can't wait!!

great break down

Meanwhile Japanese anime always had positive masculinity in their big bro characters

Beautiful essay :))

This made me emotional

Excellent video. This essay really just made me appreciate more Creed 1 & 2 while also being disappointed in Creed 3. The third film was missing a ton- Rocky was only a portion of it. It had potential, but every part of the film felt like there was a missing piece to further develop the characters or the story in a proper pace.

Wouldn't say "a lot", but when it happens, it does feel meaningful.

Great video bro, keep it up!

It's true about the movie in terms of Creed's mom. A mother never wants to see her grown son defeated in the ring or in life in general but there are times that only that son can come out from that dark place and reconstruct himself from inside our. Been there done that. That's why does life imitates art or art imitates life. There's times we can learn from movies.

#CREED3 was phenomenal in every way!

Amazing video mate

I needed this & didn’t even know it…

Well earned like 👍

None of the Rocky/Creed films are about boxing. Sylvester Stallone wanted to show how to take on life with the visuals of boxing and Ryan Coogler understood that too when writing the films. They’ve never been about boxing and that’s what’s so beautiful about the Rocky films even the corny ones and also the Creed Films

I liked this video, nice work. For me they’re all great, but I would say my order is Creed then Creed II then Creed III. Creed and Rocky are my two favs of all Creed and Rocky movies, they’re two of my top films of all time. But I also loved Creed 2, and 3 well, while I enjoy this one the least amount out of the Creed series, I thought was very good despite its flaws.

My god this is a good video

Creed 3 also takes this a step forward. Great video 🙏🏾

This whole franchise is one of the best I've ever seen. It's basically a boxing soap opera.

Teared up.

I really appreciate this analysis. I would love to hear your take on CREED III and how it carries on the exploration of masculinity. I feel like III is about survivors guilt and Donny first falters by trying to make things right as a response to the guilt he feels, at the expense of those closest to him. From Dame's perspective, the movie is about how the punitive systems in society, which are especially punitive towards Black men, induce trauma and force men to resort to manipulation and coercion to gain the spoils promised by capitalism. In fighting each other, the men perpetuate the trauma they experienced as young boys. It is the conversation after the fight that brings the true resolution, when they forgive one another and absolve one another of guilt.

Feel like this essay is better then the two movies

Why i like this character so much

All the rocky movies make me cry.

Nice movie.

You can tell which commenters watched the video and which ones were just triggered by the thumbnail. Great video and analysis.

Creed 3 👍🏾

I wish we had an update on this with Creed 3

Real men show emotion. Only cowards are scared to show themselves to the world.

Some men cry, some don't. It is ok either way.

Every human being will cry at some point about whatever crying doesn't make you less of a man or close defining masculinity its therapeutic to help us move forward in life !! However !! having a life long pity party doesn't help anything either whatever comes up deal with it right then and there, positive masculinity doesn't define character strength of character defines character an any type of toxic masculinity you encounter MEN and WOMEN kick bricks in other direction because those toxic people don't mind if you get caught up in their self destructive mindset because like saying goes '' misery loves company ' !!

Creed 3 was so excellent

Now u gotta do one for Creed 3

what a banger fuckin vid how does this man only have 4,5k subs?

“Time beat him. Time takes everybody out. It’s undefeated” 2:08

My favourite film is, the piano

This is first video I watched after seeing Creed 3

You know, I see a lot of talk about positive and toxic masculinity. But what I haven’t seen is talk about positive and toxic femininity.

Creed 3 was cool. But it wasn’t the same without Rocko

This explains why i and many others felt that Adonis was kinda whiny

would love to hear your analysis on creed 3

I dont understand why we have to put masculinity into different boxes like positive or toxic. Masculinity is just one thing and thats it.

All the things in this video shows in Creed 3 when Adonis is a much more mature man

Nice video! Hope you append it with the themes in Creed 3.

If only I had a Rocky in my corner

I hope Creed 4 follows this path and doesn't become a Rocky reboot

Maybe it will sound strange but to me Rocky and Creed franchises are like shonen animes but unlike them these franchises are done right. First I remember Naruto and Dragon Ball. Rocky Balboa is like Naruto or Goku, Apollo Creed is like Vegeta or Sasuke, Mickey is like Jiraya or Muten Roshi. And Adonis Creed is like Boruto or Gohan

Just enjoy life, if you cry its okay, if you dont its okay too, just dont try to enter your beliefs into other people and shaming men for crying, “you have to be masculine and not cry” my guy, find peace, enjoy your life, be happy, if you are not “manly” it doesnt matter, just live your life, how you want to

Crying, sure. Just not in front of others

Kinda reminds me of vegeta with the work hard ethic

is it not considerd a video essay if not written in the title

I prefer a toxic masculinity action flick, but yeh this was good too.

Sheeesh

If Fiction is concerned look no further than the imperfect protagonists/main characters of the Yakuza (Ryu Ga Gotoku) franchise for positive (Yet pretty exageratted/comedic) masculinity

Rocky Creed

If they stopped at three, I would be ok with it. If they continued, but continued with his daughter, I’d be cool with that too. Anything else would seem forced.